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Saltalamacchia Done

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According to the Dallas News Rangers Blog, Salty is done for the year.

He is headed for a second opinion, but:

The Rangers announced that catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia has a strained right forearm muscle and will not play again this season.

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this sucks

but we get more looks at teagarden i guess.

which means more chances to post the arlington tea party

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by gossamer on Sep 2, 2008 3:55 PM CDT   0 recs

one would think.

"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember this is a desperate Ron Washington,

how he used Laird over Salty and how he has used Byrd this year while a kid like Boggs sits on the bench.

Hopefully we see lots of Teagarden but I’m not counting on it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

unfortuanately

josey is right.

how often do you read that around here?

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Sep 2, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i disagree.

if you think that Ron playing the players that gave the Rangers the best chance at winning makes him desperate, then i guess you can consider him right. I dont see how playing Salty over Laird or playing Byrd over anyone while the Rangers closed to within 5 games of a playoff spot can be considered desperate.

Now, Josey will go on to explain that the Rangers were never going to be in the chase because of their pitching. And that is true. But, had the Rangers tossed the hat in and given up and just played the young guys and not given a shit about winning games, they would have done a disservice to Rangers fans. They were obligated to give their best effort to win while a chance existed of them making the postseason, even as slim as that chance might have been. Had they not done so, it would have been Josey over here raising hell about how the organization doesnt care about winning at the big league level and that big league production is all that counts and enough of the magic beans.

so its just another of Josey’s hypocrisy’s.

by 6th street on Sep 2, 2008 5:36 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

I couldn't agree more

A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555

by boomer1 on Sep 2, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mistake

sorry, that first paragraph should read Laird over Salty, not the other way around. idiot.

by 6th street on Sep 2, 2008 5:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm right a helluva lot (but not infallible) when it comes to the Great Game,

specifically as it applies to the Rangers and that’s what really pisses people off about me.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2008 11:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What in the hell is that?

I have nothing to say

by rldwb on Sep 3, 2008 12:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You're modesty

is your best quality.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 3, 2008 12:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Had a bad feeling about this last night

In his throwing arm no less. Not good.

Hopefully this isn’t the mysterious type of forearm inflammation that somehow spans five months like it did with McCarthy.

Looking forward to seeing Teagarden getting at least 50 percent of the ABs behind the dish the rest of the way. Laird’s in a horrific slump right now.

Baseball Time in Arlington

by jamcadbury on Sep 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT   0 recs

Laird is just coming down to his normal self.

"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 2, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I would agree

Laird is probably around a 750 OPS guy.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 2, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Laird has what,

9-10 Win Shares for the entire season?

That’s Barajas territory.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, wait. AJM is saying that Laird is not, in fact, the beasticon that he has been calling him all year? -shocked-

by FuturePants on Sep 2, 2008 4:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

but he's a good catcher

and that’s probably about as important to have with a young pitching staff next year as it is to have a good hitting catcher.

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NIXON: NOW MORE THAN EVER

by gossamer on Sep 2, 2008 4:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was not attempting to implicate OM5T’s talent. I was just amused that even AJM may not buy into AJM’s hype about him.

by FuturePants on Sep 2, 2008 4:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

ajm was a little loud on how great 1T5M was when every1 on earth has seen what he is and he was playing way over his head.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Sep 2, 2008 5:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?
ajm was a little loud on how great 1T5M was when every1 on earth has seen what he is and he was playing way over his head.

Link?

When have I ever said how great he is?

I’ve consistently said I think he’s a nice major league starting catcher. Nothing more.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 2, 2008 8:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That is true

I have nothing to say

by rldwb on Sep 3, 2008 12:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is true...

it just seems like you come down harder on other posters when they say he sucks as opposed to any other Ranger.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 3, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tell me about it

A Lonestar in California

We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.

by lonestarJon on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

His career line is .689, and his career year has already turned into .734.

.750 seems very generous.

the preceding post is not nearly as negative or insulting as you think it is

by DSheppard on Sep 2, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

heh

I guess AJM grades Laird on a curve.

Warner Madrigal makes Ezequiel Astacio look downright handsome.

by tricer on Sep 2, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

In more ways than one.

Re: him having to split time with Teagarden the rest of the way:

"I’m real disappointed. It looks like I’m only going to get half the games. What can I say? I’ll do the best I can. But they have to decide this off-season. I’m kind of tired of this stuff. I feel like they owe it to all of us to make a decision. I just want some clarity. If they’re going to go with one of them, then give me a chance to go somewhere else.’’

"I don’t want to be doing this the next couple of years. I feel honestly like this was may be my last month as a Ranger. I feel almost like my time here is almost over. I love it here, but I want a chance to play everyday. I’m not saying I want to be traded. I just don’t want to deal with this situation again. I just want to know going into camp if I’m going to have a chance to play everyday.’’

If that’s the way he really feels, I cannot wait until he is gone.

A Lonestar in California

We need to hire Chuck Norris to kick the ass of any Ranger fan caught booing one of our young pitchers at the RBiA.

by lonestarJon on Sep 2, 2008 6:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Bout time for snaggletooth to hit the road.

Good fucking riddance.

"The question of how we came to be is a philosophical one." - 4HIM

by Chase Irwin on Sep 2, 2008 8:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That statement is hard to handle

Teagarden may be the only catcher, of the four, that is better than Laird (overall).

I have nothing to say

by rldwb on Sep 3, 2008 12:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But I still see Salty as a

25-30 HR / .850 OPS player but nowhere near as good defensively as TT.

There’s still a place in your organization for that type of player but I’m thinking he’s going to be mostly a DH in the future if he stays in Texas.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 3, 2008 12:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Salty has a big league bat (this may be our future DH)

but I’m not sold on him being a big league catcher.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT   0 recs

i think

that MaxRam has shown more potential to be our future DH than Salty has.

by 6th street on Sep 2, 2008 4:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Great.

His value just keeps going down.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT   0 recs

why would his value go down?

You saying Phil Hughes’ value kept going down after his groin injury last year in Texas?

"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 2, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this post

needs a graphic

by FirebatM3 on Sep 2, 2008 4:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As you wish:

(I really hope HTML works here)

by FuturePants on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

right after his groin injury last year his value went down?

really?

"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

actually

it did, and again this year. It’s getting to the point where Yankees brass are discussing trading him for a 1B or C

by FirebatM3 on Sep 2, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i would love to get him

teagarden + for hughes would be a dream come true

Every pitch thrown to Josh Hamilton is recorded as an E1. -- clark

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no way

it’d probably have to be Ramirez

by FirebatM3 on Sep 2, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

perhaps

but smart teams don’t trade talented young players when their value is down.

by clark on Sep 2, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Let me introduce you

to Jon Daniels.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

depends on need

sometimes, holding our for maximum value can backfire in a big way

by FirebatM3 on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You mean

like with Laird and Salty?

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 2, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

Laird should have been moved by now.

Salty has plenty of time and had looked quite impressive before going down. It looked like his timing was coming back, but I question whether he should bat RH as often.

"The question of how we came to be is a philosophical one." - 4HIM

by Chase Irwin on Sep 2, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

A lonestar Jon clone

I have nothing to say

by rldwb on Sep 3, 2008 12:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not quite

Though I suppose you could pass for Steal Home?

"The question of how we came to be is a philosophical one." - 4HIM

by Chase Irwin on Sep 3, 2008 12:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yankees

I think this is the offseason to deal with them. Cashman looks to be on his way out, and Steinberner II seems to be getting desperate.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 2, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this year, yes

i understand how his stock has dropped THIS year…but if someone says that his stock dropped because of a groin injury in Texas last year, well…

"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 2, 2008 4:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Salty's stock

has dropped due to both disappointing performance at the plate and lack of prowess on defense in addition to this injury. This is terrible timing, though, as it now becomes difficult to trade him in the offseason, which limits Daniels’ options.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 2, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

which is a good thing

he’s not the catcher we want/should to trade.

"Popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever."
"Maybe congress should take more vacations, whenever these people leave town, things just seem to get better..." - Jay Leno

by Longhorn on Sep 2, 2008 8:15 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

I'd rather trade Laird

but Max or Teagarden might be more enticing to other teams for the long term.

O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere anstimmen,
und freudenvollere.

by t ball on Sep 2, 2008 11:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

his value

doesn’t really matter since he will be our catcher of the future. Maybe in several years when we’re trying to trade him for our newest catching prospect then it would.

Hopefully Teagarden plays well enough to up his value when we trade him to Boston this off-season.

by Mike E on Sep 2, 2008 4:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Salts iss probably third, if not 4th on the depth chart going in to next season

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by Brian Thomas on Sep 2, 2008 6:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

like I said,

Salty will turn into a throw in on a deal this winter, you watch. Id rather keep Laird, Tea, and MaxRam.

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by NYTXFAN on Sep 2, 2008 7:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that would be pointless

he’s still young enough to develop into the player that scouts and other evaluators think he can be, so it would be ridiculous to get rid of him for virtually nothing.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Sep 2, 2008 9:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No way

He’s young enough that if it comes down to his value being so low that he’s no more than a throw in you just stick in AAA for a year and let him start every day to pump up his value a little. He has options left and he’s young. Don’t be hasty.

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by thedirkatron on Sep 2, 2008 10:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

man

This season is really going out with a whimper.

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by trza on Sep 2, 2008 3:59 PM CDT   0 recs

salty is only 22 right?

or is it 23?

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by gossamer on Sep 2, 2008 4:01 PM CDT   0 recs

I think this may help his value

it does not sound like a serious injury, and it helps explain his poor CS stats this year.

i still think he could be dealt for a guy like Sanchez this offseason (perhaps with a guy like Lemon in the deal as well).

by clark on Sep 2, 2008 4:06 PM CDT   0 recs

How does it explain his poor CS rates this season?

The injury happened last night

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2008 4:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh

i thought it was something that built up over time.

by clark on Sep 2, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just last night?

Has anyone else noticed his penchant for throwing to second base from his knees? Good for the forearm (and arm in whole) this can’t be.

"But the major difference is where Showalter tried to overthink everything Washington at times seems like he isn't thinking at all. " - rentz

by hillcrest on Sep 2, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ohhhhhh NOOOOOO...what next?!?!

Baseball Jesus is on suicide watch!!!!

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-Sharky- what a nice guy huh? I guess he doesn't watch any TV shows or movies.. If California goes so goes the entertainment industry. What a nut job!!

by LAMuscleFag on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT   0 recs

Salty

at this point, he should probably just be kept until next season. Let’s hope Laird can keep up decent numbers going into the offseason. I still think a team like the Marlins makes sense for him. His style of play is best suited in the NL.

by clark on Sep 2, 2008 4:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Oh well

We already tried to fuck him up by bringing him up and using him as a backup catcher all season long. This is probably the best thing for him at this point.

My guess is that if doesn’t get dealt this off season he gets “Lairded” and gets to spend all next season in AAA. At least then he’ll get the development time he should have gotten this year when we made the horrendously dumb decision of retarding his growth for an entire season just because we didn’t have another viable backup catcher when Melhuse got injured.

Salty’s season makes me want to puke for a variety of reasons.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Sep 2, 2008 5:14 PM CDT   0 recs

spot

on.

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by red shoe ranger on Sep 2, 2008 10:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Salty for Bailey

I think JD is holding out on that trade hoping to get a more consistent pitcher in the majors. In the end, I think JD should pull the trigger before Salty’s value will be lower than Bailey’s.

Who else thinks Cincy would jump all over that if the trade was on the table?

by Coolbean04 on Sep 2, 2008 5:15 PM CDT   0 recs

im of the opinon that the only people who think bailey is worth more than dirt at this point are texans.

"I’m sure you’ve seen Kiker before but I’ll just reiterate that the kid is mean on the mound. He is only 5’10’’ but he is an intimidator. He looks like he hates hitters. He has the juice for pressure situations."
-Jason Parks on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM

by Jayslick on Sep 2, 2008 5:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

But he might listen to the icon Nolan Ryan and not be considered bullheaded any more, or as much. I don’t know enough about his stuff side talent to be all about a deal with Cincy, but “head cases” have found happiness in Texas before.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Sep 2, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And

a change of scenery couldnt really hurt that much. Plus, he’s a Texan

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by hinduplaya on Sep 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs