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Ron Washington expected back in 2009

 Team president Nolan Ryan said Tuesday, five days short of the end of the season, that he expects manager Ron Washington to return to the Texas Rangers in 2009.

"I have no intentions of making a change at this point in time," Ryan said. "He’s under contract for next year. I think that speaks for itself."

"I think the players like him," Ryan said. "I think he’s gotten them to respond to them. I think that’s important. I really believe his intent is trying to get them to improve and address our shortcomings."

General manager Jon Daniels will also be back, Ryan indicated, as the Rangers stick to the plan to develop their own players and build a winner from within.

Read it here.

I really hope they get Wash some more/better help, especially regarding the handling of pitching. I am very glad JD is sticking around.

 

WWNRD?  ...now we know.

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Can't say that I'm surprised Wash will be back...

…but I can and will say that I’m disappointed.

Physician: Primum non nocere

Batter: First, make no out

by Chad Crudup on Sep 24, 2008 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

hmmm

I’m glad that JD will be back and sort of ambivalent on Wash. Personally, I’d fire him, but I don’t think he is going to be the difference between this team contending and not contending.

I thought the following quote was interesting. Shows that maybe Nolan isn’t a dumbass that is out to get JD, as many here seem to imply. In fact, Nolan very well might be JD’s saving grace, as we know that Hicks is prone to shift courses in the middle of a round. I think Nolan is firmly on board with JD’s rebuilding plan, and has enough pull to make sure that Hicks sticks with it.

"We all agreed that we’re going to develop within our system. When you say ’develop,’ that’s not a quick fix.

“We still believe that that is the route that we’re going to take for this organization. I think we have shown that we are committed to that. I don’t think that when you didn’t see our record change from one year to the next you just dump the program that you’ve committed to.”

"So he tore it up in AA. Yippee. ...Max Ramirez be damned." - bigsteve

by tricer on Sep 24, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Good news on Daniels

Washington needs to make some adjustments in his approach.

by Brett Perryman on Sep 24, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

My biggest problem is between JD and Washington in that JD has shown an ability to develop along a steep learning curve, with his early mistakes being just that – early mistakes. I guess it’s what you get when you hire a 29 year old as your GM. He has learned and made adjustments, though.

Ron Washington, however, has shown absolutely no improvement in his in-game management. He has shown an ability to relate to and get along with players, which was not there at first, but his game management – especially management of the pitching staff – seems to get worse with each passing game. Wash is infuriating and seems to be learning absolutely nothing. After two full seasons Washington has got to show some kind of improvement, which he has not. That is why I would advocate making a change at manager.

by FuturePants on Sep 24, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can we get some adjustments

from JD as well when it comes to judging and trading for healthy major league talent?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

As in?

Are you referring to Gallaraga or post-Gallaraga?

by FuturePants on Sep 24, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coincidental or not?

Boy Blunder’s dumb-f trades seemed to stop happening when Nolan came aboard.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

And as I asked you in the other thread...

…which moves are demanded by Nolan Ryan? None, by all accounts. JD is learning on the job; it has nothing to do with Ryan because Ryan isn’t directing him to make (or not make) any moves. It’s an illogical result you are landing on which has no basis in what Ryan is doing or not doing.

by FuturePants on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It brightens my day

to get a boy blunder reference.

"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky

by DJCahill on Sep 24, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Kidding on the health issue

The fact that JD will be back is depressing news to me. Another year of crap in 2009. I’m ready to bring back Hart and Buck.

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Sep 24, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m ready to bring back Hart and Buck.

I realize Jesus himself, in all liklihood, hates the Rangers, but if that happens; truly, God help us all.

by FuturePants on Sep 24, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd trade away the farm system

and some of the younger players who aren’t plus performers yet to build an 88 win team and be lauded by many…temporarily.

by Brett Perryman on Sep 24, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo

then we’d be right with Seattle in two years.

In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.

by t ball on Sep 24, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

but it would put butts in the seats!

a real baseball man knows that

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 24, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it would get some pitchin in here

by Brett Perryman on Sep 24, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sure we could trade for Zito.

by FuturePants on Sep 25, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am

Strongly against the ability to post without the subject line. It looks empty and naked. The only failure of 2.0.

by brettgardner on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm the opposite

I don’t like titling posts, no title makes it more forum like.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 25, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I didn’t know I no longer had to have a subject lines. On the LSB Classic I’d always put x’s in there.

Thanks!

by Black Francis on Sep 25, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

A Lonestar in California

"M’s fans are such weenies." - Zywica

by LSJ on Sep 26, 2008 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

good news

i’m mostly glad that ryan acknowledges they need to stick to the plan of development. i’m very glad jd is staying and i guess i’m ok with washington seeing as the two will probably have 1 more season to try and improve.

I think washington is still learning, but needs to make great improvements to stay longer than next year

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Somewhere in the Rangers bullpen

Luis Mendoza just heaved a huge sigh of relief… and Jamey Wright just screamed.

A Lonestar in California

"M’s fans are such weenies." - Zywica

by LSJ on Sep 24, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Uh oh...

The dreaded “vote of confidence”.

"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states" - Barack Obama

by LSBUser on Sep 24, 2008 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

What happens if this thing

plays the same type of baseball they played this year, attendance continues to lag and they bolt the gate say 6-14?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I see legitimate improvement

my tune will change. I also expect most of this room to come correct on Nolan.

Now go find something to study…while this word is filled with lawyers, there’s not enough good ones.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just wondering.

If the team starts out 14-6, will you change your tune? If not, I don’t see how it’s fair to make opposite judgment if they’re 6-14.

by brettgardner on Sep 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

#1 Farm isn't "legitimate improvement?"

If not, then what is? Is it only the W-L record?

by FuturePants on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, you will not change your tune

Even if the Rangers won the world series you would not give Daniels one iota of credit. You’d call him lucky that Ryan was around to help him do it.

In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.

by t ball on Sep 24, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 24, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hope at least.....

that Washington is on a really short lease. I’m no baseball expert, but a lot of his in-game moves and lack of in-game moves ( ie. his constant love of Jamey Wright ) just had me shaking my head in disbelief…..

On the other hand, I do like what JD has been doing, besides the early stumbles….

"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008

by Captain Fubar on Sep 24, 2008 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

That's what I don't understand..

Wash is going to be on a short leash, desperate for early wins meaning there’s a good chance the team mirrors his desperation and gacks.

We are also going to see lots of Marlon Byrd hitting 5th and waaaay too much Gerald Laird instead of biting the bullet and letting young kids play, fail, overcome and develop.

That’s how your team improves.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Wash needs a quick start.

Another start to the season like the last two and he won’t survive April. I hope the starters help out more next year… stay healthy, pitch into 6th and 7th and let the bullpen have a normal season for once.

Happy about JD. I feel he is growing as a GM and needs to solidify who he listens to in regards to talent evaluation. Whomever advised Jennings over Galarraga should have no say in anything.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Sep 24, 2008 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Growing asd a GM?

Seems to me that he is regressing as a GM. This season I think Nolan put a muzzle on him in regards to trading away more good talent for injury ridden players and cheap players.

The boy still has no clue to what he is doing.

Lbrooks

by LBrooks on Sep 24, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

You Want Kenny Lofton

or Max Ramirez.?

Eric Gagne or David Murphy?

by cashman on Sep 24, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn

our pitching is already bad enough, we dont need his horrific bullpen management

and now next year we will lost another great player with daniels as GM, hopefully this year will only be the one-good-player-gone-for-nothing-year

"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008

To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE

by Seth. on Sep 24, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Teen angst

is so cute!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2

by Rodney on Sep 24, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

not really, it happens every year

"Tommy Hunter will be the best pitcher on the Rangers in 2009" Me- August 14th, 2008

To: Luis Mendoza "Please die in a fire." LSJ; PLEASE

by Seth. on Sep 24, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

you’re better off lighting yourself on fire and ending the pain.

by FirebatM3 on Sep 26, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Washington

I’d be happier if they let him go. I’ve said this ad nauseum, but for two years in a row the team has come out of camp and looked horrible, only to play solid baseball afterward. If that happens one more time, I’d be shocked if they didn’t fire him. Get someone in here who can run a training camp.

The bullpen mismanagement doesn’t bother me as much. When your starters can seldom make it through the fifth inning, any bullpen will eventually become unmanageable.

by Black Francis on Sep 24, 2008 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been saying...

that I thought both would be back and I’m glad Nolan has said as much. It will be a very interesting off season with player movement, that’s for sure.

As Z mentions above, I also believe Wash needs to adjust or change his approach with in game decision making. If he does that I think he could be a capable manager. Let’s face it, the best manager in the world couldn’t have won a pennant with the ML pitching the Rangers have had the last 2 years. I think Wash gets too much of the blame based on a few bad in game moves that really don’t have nearly as much to do with losing as the horrible pitching does. Show me good Ranger pitching and I’ll show you a decent managed team.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 24, 2008 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Re: Wash

That is why I have a problem with people calling him stupid, or a moron. He is neither. Does he have the experience of a Pinela? Hell no. I think he is capable of growing into the job, and improving his skills. If you ever listen to him, he admits he has a bunch to learn, and is learning every day. I am also quite sure JD & NR had some pointed advice during his “end of season” interview.

Frankly, given the pitching tools he had to work with, who the F would have produced better results? Hell, most managers would have had the entire team quit on them after the horrible start this team had. Ask SEA…

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2

by Rodney on Sep 24, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

This ain't poker...

Wash can’t win when he’s dealt a crappy hand by the JDealer.

Smile when you call me Beat Weed!

by Clueless on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Wash was dealt a good hand

he’d f it up.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Sep 24, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you have some recorded

shows of Galloway you could be listening to instead of wasting everyones time with your tired schtick?

by matteo25 on Sep 24, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

THis is like

the perfect storm of bad posters. We got LBrooks, beat weed, outlaw and that Seth douche in the same thread. Where’s steal home and miles?

by FirebatM3 on Sep 26, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Steal Home was banned

And Miles is at college.

A Lonestar in California

"M’s fans are such weenies." - Zywica

by LSJ on Sep 26, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think steal home is now Seth

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Sep 28, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

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