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Coaching staff overhaul apparently coming

T.R. Sullivan has a piece up on the situation regarding the coaching staff, and it appears that there is a significant shakeup coming.

Rudy Jaramillo (who is already under contract for next season) and Gary Pettis are expected back, but it sounds like everyone else may be on the way out.

Jim Colburn is going to go back heading up Asian Rim scouting, which will open up a spot for a bullpen coach.

Sullivan says Ron Washington and Jon Daniels like Andy Hawkins, but there is some sentiment within the organization (read that as you wish) to bring in a more experienced pitching coach, and let Hawkins go back to working with the minor leaguers.

Matt Walbeck was brought in with a very good reputation, but it is no secret that he was a Jon Daniels hire rather than a Washington hire (Washington preferring someone from his Oakland days), and Sullivan says that the two never "gelled," with the result being that Walbeck is apparently gone.

Art Howe is the most interesting situation, it appears...Howe was, of course, the guy that Washington insisted on as his bench coach, and is almost universally regarded as a great guy and a first class individual.  But Evan Grant mentioned earlier this week that Howe may bear some blame for a lack of in-game preparedness on the bench in certain situations, and Howe's role as infield instructor could, according to Sullivan, be usurped by former Ranger coach Perry Hill, who has supporters in the front office.

Washington and Daniels will meet tomorrow, and I suspect we'll get word on who is staying and who is going sometime then.

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cant hurt

although i like walbeck.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Sep 28, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I like Walbeck. I thought he handled third base well this year, but if he and the manager don’t gel…well, there’s not much choice.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Football is like having a fling once a week. Baseball is a relationship." - oc

by baseballismyboyfriend on Sep 28, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walbeck was also catching coach

Our catching defense was not good.

by mattrpav on Sep 29, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

This one bothers me.

by rcreative on Sep 28, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This really hurts

Because Walbeck was the guy who I wanted to replace Ron within a year or so. Who’s gonna coach our catchers now?

Also, I can’t help but feel a certain dread if we’re going to start replacing guys like Walbeck with Ron Washington minions – if anything we need someone who can offset Ron’s stupidity, not play further into it.

A Lonestar in California

"M’s fans are such weenies." - Zywica

by lonestarJon on Sep 29, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't I remember that

Perry Hill is a personal friend of Nolan’s? Am I thinking of some other old Rangers connection who he was good friends with?

by Brett Perryman on Sep 28, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fine

If we hear that some guy that was brought in was a “JD guy” or a “Nolan guy” then shame on them and regardless of the outcome next season, Wash should get a two-year extension because it’s not really his fault, it’s the staff’s fault.

If you feel like that the manager is good enough to bring back for a third year, then he must be good enough to pick his own staff. If he picks his own guys, then he no longer has a scapegoat and if things don’t go well then you know who to blame.

by robert_d_wilfong on Sep 28, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

I think part of reason Daniels interviewed the guys he did was that he was looking for someone malleable and who didn’t want a ton of control.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 28, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assisting

a rookie manager with staff seems logical. Picking the staff for a guy who’s been in charge for three years seems to reek of a lack of confidence in said manager’s ability to make sound decisions.

by robert_d_wilfong on Sep 28, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No..

.. it is a savvy upper mgmt move. Let me grow into the role by surrounding him with some of your own ppl.

by mattrpav on Sep 29, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a strong feeling on Hawkins

but experience hasn’t exactly equalled success when it’s come to Rangers pitching coaches lately.

by Brett Perryman on Sep 28, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Then possibly Walbeck

Goes from minor league manager of the year, to MLB 3B coach, to what ? I had thought he was a decent managerial candidate (maybe still is).

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Sep 28, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ron's replacement?

That was my hope anyways.

by rcreative on Sep 28, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

coaches

I wouldn’t mind seeing someone come in who isn’t a “nice guy”. Seems like Wash could use a bad cop to balance his good cop approach.

by Randy Richardson on Sep 28, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Showalter?

Rocky Mountain Ranger

by Strangers on Sep 29, 2008 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Asphalt me, ben. Asphalt me good and hard." - brettgardner

by Chase Irwin on Sep 29, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

walbeck

im going to hate seeing him leave, i thought for sure he’d be ron’s replacement

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 29, 2008 5:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

glad to see Colburn get out of the bullpen

Will Carroll had a really, really poor opinion of that guy, and that’s good enough for me.

Let him go back to something completely unimportant, like scouting the Far East.

"So he tore it up in AA. Yippee. ...Max Ramirez be damned." - bigsteve

by tricer on Sep 29, 2008 5:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fine with Colburn returning to scouting, BUT...

scouting and spending resurces in the Far East is NOT an unimportant job. It is as with the Dominican Republic Academy the Rangers have. The areas where the draft doesn’t apply are where you can make up some ground on the big boys.

Other thoughts… if you are replacing his whole staff, why not replace the manager too? Washington doesn’t get along with Walbeck because he knows Walbeck was brought in as his replacement in waiting. It was obvious when the move was made.

I would like Hargrove to manage and Mazzone for the pitchers.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Sep 29, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto

and let’s not base too many decisions solely on the opinion of Will Carroll.

In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.

by t ball on Sep 29, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

from anything I’ve heard Colburn is good at that job (Eastern Rim scouting).

by Brett Perryman on Sep 29, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know

we have an expert rim job guy on board.

In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.

by t ball on Sep 29, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

scouting in far east

seems pretty unimportant to me, not even comparable with the Dominican.

"So he tore it up in AA. Yippee. ...Max Ramirez be damned." - bigsteve

by tricer on Sep 29, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe right now

but it is already more important than a few years ago, and I think it’s likely to continue that trend. The Rangers would be foolish to ignore that market, and he’s one of the most experienced over there.

In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, love.

by t ball on Sep 29, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the name i don't see mentioned is washington...

i don’t see why walbeck goes (b/c of wash) when howe goes (despite wash).

anyway, i want to see washington gone and a new manager with his staff (or the new manager, jd and nolan all working together to get a staff assembled).

there were WAY to may errors, and i thought one of the keys to washington was his ability to get the most defense out of the players.

if defense is one of his high points, abysmal defense tells me he’s not really good enough to be a manager.

he was handicapped by an atrocious pitching staff, but there weren’t a lot (any) “i think this guy is a great manager” moments.

the 7-16 start should have been his demise, and rallying the team past seattle and oakland didn’t seem like much of an accomplishment.

he stays b/c his team (beyond just the pitching staff) was injured? that seems like delaying the inevitable.

the team played well (at times) despite washington not because of him…

by sam in so cal on Sep 29, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mostly agree

but I did think when Worsh jerked CJ back up on the mound and gave him the ball back, then told him to hand it over, rather than flip it – that was a “I think this guy might actually be a good manager” moment for me. But yeah, that was just about the only one in the whole season.

"So he tore it up in AA. Yippee. ...Max Ramirez be damned." - bigsteve

by tricer on Sep 29, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching staff...

Where’s Brad Arnsberg lately? I thought he had done a decent enough job in Montreal and Florida with young pitchers which would qualify in my book as experienced, especially the type of experience that will be needed in the not-to-distant future.

As far as thid base coach and catching coach, what about Mike Stanley? He seemed to make a nice enough career out of the not so present superstar skills. Wasn’t Bill Hasselman supposed to be a young up and coming coach not too long ago?

"But the major difference is where Showalter tried to overthink everything Washington at times seems like he isn't thinking at all. " - rentz

by hillcrest on Sep 29, 2008 10:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Arnsberg in Toronto.

Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!

by pbpsean on Sep 29, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pettis

what in theworld does pettis do besides getting the batting gloves and equipment after the hitter has batted

by bullfighter20032000 on Sep 29, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's bat is it?

Fun little Rangers timewaste here.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2

by Rodney on Sep 29, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

but you can get all of them by skin color, which way some of them are holding the bat (lefty/righty) and bat size.

by Brett Perryman on Sep 29, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But still fun info.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Football is like having a fling once a week. Baseball is a relationship." - oc

by baseballismyboyfriend on Sep 29, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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