Some stats about positional players
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 9, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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PrintOver at BTB, there's a lengthy post up with charts and tables, walking through the runs above/below average for each team defensively (in terms of its positional players, as compared to pitchers) and offensively.
Not surprisingly, Texas is near the bottom (though not dead last) in defense, and near the top in offense.
Aggregating the two, Texas's positional players are still well above-average. Milton Bradley is one of the worst defensive players in the majors, and no Ranger was in the top 20 defensive players (shocking, I know).
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I guess that's why.
when he does play, he just sucks really badly and hasn’t been healthy enough nor in the field enough to do much to improve that scoring.
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-The Outlaw
in that chart, defense is position plus fielding that position
Bradley gets -10 runs for being a DH (and playing a bit of RF) and -4 runs for when he’s played the field.
and it's tough to be a SS (difficult position) and come out near the bottom overall
i mean, you’re already 10 runs up on corner OFs and 15 runs up on 1Bs
two way street
“Anyone still wondering…why Rangers’ pitchers always seem to struggle?” Couldn’t the inverse point also be made? The Rangers pitchers are really bad, and allow many balls hit hard into play with few strikeouts. Could this contribute to their seemingly terrible defense as well?
"You’re the only here who contributes schtick only." - brettgardner
Well, if you look at DIP% and Defensive Efficiency
which only takes into account balls in play, this team has many many more balls in play turn into hits than other teams.
This team is tied with Pittsburgh and Cincinatti for the most amount of Balls in Play becoming hits.
I think the article author is right, and somewhere around .5-.6 ERA of the pitchers is due to our dogshit defense.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
This always puts me in a chicken vs the egg mindset
Are all those balls put in play simply not fielded by bad fielders, or are they creamed due to bad pitching and even an average fielder wouldn’t get to them. Defensive metrics always leave me unable to tell the difference.
I think if you watch a lot of baseball
you’d say the Ranger defense doesn’t do as much with the balls hit to them as the rest of the league does. You are right that defensive metrics are always inconclusive.
"Oh well, McCain is pretty communist anyway,... we can be 70% communist with McCain,"-Sharky
Boggs in LF
Someone posted the other day that Brandon Boggs had the second highest rated performance in the majors at LF, second to Carl Crawford. Does anyone know what the various metrics say about Bogg’s defense?
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Interesting
Some surprising stuff in there. I definitely was surprised to see Minny so low defensively, but I guess with their struggles finding a 3b and SS earlier this year and with Delmon becoming such a shockingly fat and sucky OF’er, that does make some sense.
Not shocking was Abreu. Has anyone seen him out there recently? The guy used to be a pretty god fielder from what I remember, but he’s gotten just atrociously bad. I saw him live this year and several times on TV and the only comps I could make were Kevin Reimer and Jose Canseco. He’s that level of sucky.
Oh, and no more talk about how Grinky would get smoked here cause he’d be out from behind that great KC defense. KC sucks in every facet of the game. They need a complete rebuild job, and fast.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
The play that made me think of the Reim Dog
was a long flyball where Abreu went back to the warning track, lumbered around haphazardly for a few steps, then did an awkward sort of half-jump against the wall and fell down…. and then the ball landed on the warning track and bounced away to an annoyed looking Melky Cabrera. I don’t invoke the Reim Dog’s name lightly. The play really was Kevin Reimer-awful.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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Hey, you suck McBain.
by oc on Sep 9, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Sir
If you have a problem with him, please resolve your differences in private. You accomplish nothing by spamming after every one of his post like this.
same thing he does
Trade all good hitters for good pitchers. THEN IF the hitting is bad worry about it
He doesn't do it after every post
and if you don’t agree with him, then at most resolve it in that sub-thread. Have you ever seen a bulletin board covered with fliers for one particular event or advertise one particular thing? Then when you actually go look for information on the board, you have to get rid of all of that stuff that’s covering everything up, and not only it is annoying to people who are actually trying to find things on the board, all those fliers end up having the entire opposite of effect at the advertiser originally intended.
lol............i dont do it after every post either
Trade all good hitters for good pitchers. THEN IF the hitting is bad worry about it
Your act is getting old
What are you like 12?
A bunch of midgets with no arms could pitch better than us. -iorange555
here are the numbers for all Rangers with at least 150 PAs
fielding is relative to average, at each player’s own position. total is a sum of hitting, fielding, and a position adjustment, relative to replacement level.
field (avg) tot (rep) player 3.7 24 Marlon Byrd 3 49 Josh H Hamilton 0.9 6 Brandon K Boggs 0.5 13 David M Murphy -0.1 11 Gerald Laird -1.3 1 Hank Blalock -3.7 8 Christopher Davis -4.2 37 Milton Bradley -5.6 14 Michael Young -6 10 Ramon Vazquez -7 39 Ian M Kinsler -7.4 0 Jarrod S Saltalamacchia -8.4 -2 Frank Catalanotto
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