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Major NCAA football schools exposed in NY Times a few weeks ago (UT, OU, LSU, USC)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/sports/ncaafootball/26recruit.html?_r=3&ref=sports&pagewanted=all

 

This is a MUST READ article by the New York Times about the best defensive player in texas high school, and his trail of being recruited by big time programs. He talks about the schemes they play and some of the dirt that these programs don't want you to know....

 

""""""Along the way, McFarland was wined and dined. He visited the house of the president of Oklahoma, where he was promised a spot in the prestigious President’s Leadership Class. He rode in a Hummer stretch limousine in Los Angeles. He attended parties, including one in Dallas, where he said there was free alcohol, drugs and young women taking off their clothes."""""

 

""""He said he saw everything from flat-screen televisions in Texas Coach Mack Brown’s bathrooms to L.S.U.’s recruiting hostesses sitting on the laps of prospects.""""

 

""“I will never forget the excitement amongst all participants,” McFarland wrote. Alcohol was all you can drink, money was not an option. Girls were acting wild by taking off their tops, and pulling down their pants. Girls were also romancing each other. Some guys loved every minute of the freakiness some girls demonstrated. I have never attended a party of this magnitude.”""""

 

"""""Of the four universities, L.S.U. made the worst impression. After the Tigers lost to Georgia, 52-38, on Oct. 25, McFarland, his mother and his grandmother attended a catered meal at the home of Tigers Coach Les Miles.

“He was very dry,” Adams said of Miles.

Adams was further turned off by L.S.U., she said, when she saw hostesses sitting on the laps of recruits."""""

 

"""During the trip, Adams said, she asked Brown about the Obama slur, and was told that the player had to be dismissed because the F.B.I. had become involved.""""

 

""""

After Texas beat Baylor that weekend, McFarland and his mother ate dinner at Brown’s home. Flat-screen televisions were in every room, and there were two outside.

“Whose house do you like better, Bob Stoops’s, Les Miles’s or mine?” Adams recalled Brown saying.""""""""

 

""""Yet he worried what an Oklahoma degree would mean for landing a job in Texas. He also thought that the Longhorns offered him the best education and that Austin had the most entertainment.""""

 

"""""Will Muschamp, the team’s defensive coordinator and designated head coach-in-waiting, called until Adams finally talked to him at her son’s request. He tried to patch things up about the earlier phone call in which she was told she could not talk to Brown. He also explained that Texas had probably sent more letters and e-mail messages to her than to any other recruit’s parent.

“He was acting like he was doing me a favor,” Adams said. “You’re recruiting my son. I feel sorry for them if they’re saying they haven’t had that much interaction with any other recruit’s family. I feel sorry for those families. I really do.”""""""

 

""""While at McFarland’s house, Stoops offered to set the table for dinner and helped carry in ribs and potato salad. After a second serving of ribs and some peach cobbler, he sat on the couch with McFarland and his grandmother and watched the movie “Beauty Shop,” starring Queen Latifah and Alicia Silverstone.""""""

 

""""Allegations from the report upset her because she said she had received numerous offers of gifts in exchange for her son to attend Texas. She said she did not believe that Brown or anyone officially with Texas was involved or had any knowledge of the enticements.""""

 

""""Earlier this month, a former classmate called Adams and asked if she would coax her son into attending Texas. If so, a banker had promised the former classmate any type of loan.""""

 

 

The article makes Oklahoma look pretty good overall and UT, LSU, and USC pretty shady. 

Makes Mack Brown look like a complete jackass, with details about the TV's in bathrooms and bad mouthing other big 12 coaches.

LSU looks terrible, using "hostesses" to persuade the recruits.

And USC wining and dining him with luxury to persuade him.

But anyway, very interesting read into life in recruiting

 

 

 

 

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I apparently missed out...

I wish i had some sort of football skill

by Rob ONeal on Jan 1, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I read that a few days ago

Who knows how much of it is true. I bet this happens at every school to some extent or another. Any way Yay Sooners! lol

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 1, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Not at Indiana State

Coincidentally, ISU has the nation’s longest consecutive losing streak. It isn’t like they don’t try, but the facts of life for them include being in a low income city in a high unemployment state, being well down the Indiana regents budgetary totem pole, having few alumni who can afford major contributions of any nature, and partnering with hospitals and day labot type companies rather than megacorporations or private wealth. Nothing extreme or extravagant happens without money.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jan 1, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OT but Indiana State.

Ohio is recruiting and probably has Aarmon Bassett, the former point guard at Indiana and one of the guys that Eric Gorden was talking about doing drugs on the team.

He has links with John Groce, but I don’t know if I like the idea of him on the team…

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Bassett

Is from Terre Haute (South) and was pretty close to being Indiana’s HS "mr basketball’ when he was a senior. Aside: he played at Indiana University (Bloomington), not Indiana State (Terre Haute). Seems his roundball career is kind of messed up, nothing like the promise I used to read about in the online Tribune Star.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Jan 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

I don’t really want any part of him here…

That and next year there are like 10 guards on the roster

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is nothing new...

schools have done much worse trying to get kids to go there.

It’s amazing how crooked collegiate athletics can be at times.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 1, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 1, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

this is very very mild compared to some things that have happened.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 1, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Has

this already been talked about?

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s OT that is a week old and has been in every media outlet. Yes.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 1, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry,

I’ll change it up a bit to make it with current news.

I just wanted to hear people opinions about this on LSB, since it is so diverse here.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you read this same author's

hatchet job covering Darrell Scott’s recruitment last year? Pretty similar. Also, McFarland has retracted some of the quotes, calling them “spicing up the story” or something along those lines.

I think most people would agree that shady stuff goes on in most of these programs, both related and unrelated to the schools. Most people also realize that parents and often kids develop completely unrealistic expectations and for some reason unnecessarily put some of these coaches in bad lights just because they feel better about not choosing them with that. College football is right there with politics as something that gets people’s blood boiling fast, so when you see something like this, I think it’s wise to do some extra research before taking it as gospel. That’s my take.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 1, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I did do

the research.

Although he said that some things god out of context, Jamarcus did say all in all it was true. Just a few things were twisted.

Unrealistic expectations? This kid doesn’t sound like that. President of his class and proudly works at Kmart and people only say great things about him.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to argue with you

You might lose the “in trouble” part of your title at least. That’s silly.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 1, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright,

I’ll change it.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree

But it does make me wonder what line has to be crossed before these schools are exposed. Or is there a line even?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The NCAA

has been known to keep quiet about big time programs…

I hope it is investigated though…

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they don't do much after what happened with SMU

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of SMU,

In the article for this post, is that letter in that main picture of an SMU envelope of Jamarkus’ hand?

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha,

Thats what I like to see….

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

SMU

now that they aren’t paying players they can’t seem to get any decent recruits, weird.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but there's more to it

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One of my favorite lines...

…came from Bobby Knight, back in the day, after a huge scandal involving Kentucky broke out…

Knight said, “The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, they’re going to slap two more years probation on Cleveland State.”

Of course, as it turned out, Kentucky came damn close to getting the death penalty there.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 1, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite line is after SMU got caught....

they continued to pay their players and got caught again…In their defense, they said “we promised we would pay our players and we had to keep our word.”

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha,

Gotta love SMU…

Hope they turn that program around soon…

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I went to the June Jones press conference last year. Hopefully he turns things around when he gets his own players in there. Disappointing year though and I still can’t believe Justin Willis didn’t start for them.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Willis

get introuble for something?

The QB from Highland Park Winston Gamso got a preferred walk on last year from them, I wonder where he will be on their depth chart.

6-4, huge and Stafford strength arm.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you seeing my profile?

Honestly, AJM did that.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

That’s hilarious.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!

by sprite on Jan 1, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Zywica

I bet

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does he have facebook?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

O good point.

Ben has me on facebook… haha

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So does AJM

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mystery...

We should make a poll who people think did it, haha.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never messed with your profile, not that I’m above it.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 1, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What about me?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

k

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he got in trouble before the season but

the details were never really revealed. I know he punched someone last year. Anything that is Stafford like, I like to hear.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I just can't

wait in a few years when June Jones gets his guys in their..

It should start panning out in about 3 years.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

meow

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you thought about what your new handle will be if

Salty is traded? How about CrushGoesYard?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

25min up and it already has a rec

probably isnt hard to guess who might have rec’d it so fast

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 9:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who do you think did it?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my guess is longhorn

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He won't like

this article much, its the most slander against UT I have ever heard in my life.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not the worst thing i've read about UT

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and like most of what youve read

it cant be proven at all.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude..

Why do you have to start drama?

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not drama

your posts always seem to get auto rec’d regardless of what its value is.

this actually isn’t a bad post thought. i had heard of the article but hadnt read it.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You sound jealous..

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously we need that Salty trade to go down

for our own sanity.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I emailed Ben (105.3) and he emailed me back saying he is going to have Jamey and Adam on regularly…nice. Hopefully AJM will let Ben & Skin talk on their own radio show!!!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont

they werent very majestic on their show on 1310, shutting up and letting those 2 speak would be a great bonus.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jayslick

Why can’t we just hug it out?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you lost me, man...

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 2, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

aww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZvarRe-XVQ

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 2, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

very

you got me!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what do you think??

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well you brought it up

so I think so.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ahh..

i see, so anytime someone questions miles posts being rec’d they are jealous of his status? got it.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...correct!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You need to change the title of this post

I thought this was gonna be some scandal that is being exposed for the first time.

This was just a story about a normal Friday night of football recruiting….

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 1, 2009 10:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it’s just not football recruiting without hookers and blow!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you considered your new handle

if Salty is traded? CrushGoesYard?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK WTF...

What is with my freaking profile picture?

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

hasn’t this happened before?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

I think during that power rankings thing…

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF

Look at my profile picture…Really???

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you not

do that?

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No I didn't

I guess AJM likes to look at himself!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha,

Or Ben is a jackass.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

I’m not sure what’s more annoying to look at, that dog or Miley…

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by lonestarJon on Jan 1, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Miley is hot...r u kidding???

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's only my opinion

But I don’t find her attractive, mainly because she annoys me. I generally don’t like chicks who annoy me, even if they’re smoking hot (which Miley also isn’t, IMO). About the only current exception to that rule is Shania Twain.

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by lonestarJon on Jan 1, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't watch her music or tv?

so she doesn’t annoy me.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How is

Miley not hot?

Smokin bod, young face…

Full of energy…

What is there not to like?

I think I like her more and more each day…

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, to each his own

Eye of the beholder and all that. I’m just ribbing ya a bit with my opinion. ;)

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by lonestarJon on Jan 1, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

x

True that broseph…

I looked up Shania Twain, I like it… Just have to put a bag over her head… No biggy

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you prefer?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

60 bucks

he says Miranda Lambert…

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would you

say she is a poor womens Carrie Underwood?

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate that comparison

They’re not really comparable at all, really. Carrie is basically Faith Hill 2.0, but I don’t think Miranda is really comparable to anything else in country music right now.

The closest comp I can really come up with would be to say Miranda’s kind of country music’s version of Avril Lavigne, though that’s not a very precise comparison either.

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by lonestarJon on Jan 1, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, interesting...

Thinking a singer looks good and liking there music….

Reminds me of Cheyenne Kimball.. Even though I didn’t listen to her music, she was fucking hot….

Wonder what ever happened to her…

Got Miley?

by miles on Jan 1, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yah, that's the thing

Miranda’s music is a big part of her allure, especially for me. And you kinda have to know it to appreciate it… there’s a whole other side and depth to her music besides this “Crazy ex girlfriend” image they’ve let perpetuate. The way they’ve marketed her kinda sucks, really, but they’ve had to contend with the fact that mainstream country radio seems like it would rather ignore her.

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by lonestarJon on Jan 1, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's

music do you like better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RSlhNJFohI

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...in HD if you want too

I love it.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 1, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah seriously,

No one can tell me Mirando Lambert can dance like that.

No way in hell.

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

If anyone is really curious as to my tastes, I put this together in the spirit of our CPP’s awhile back…

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by lonestarJon on Jan 1, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Those are some hot chicks.

One of my personal favorites is Allison Stokke, the pole vaulter. Check her out if you haven’t already.

by coolrangersfan on Jan 2, 2009 1:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

she looks like a female billy ray

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by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On a scale

of 1-10, what would you rate her? And don’t say you won’t because she is “underaged”

I’d probably say 8.5-9

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i really don’t know, i see her and i see billy ray cyrus with a more feminine face.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 1, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

she has potential to build on top of cute.

I don’t ever look at her hick for a dad so I wouldn’t know to compare.

Cute + Hot = FUCKING CLUTCH!

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by miles on Jan 1, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

she'll be smoking speed with billy ray before she hits 19

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not if I

“hit” it first.

Got Miley?

by miles on Jan 1, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats not necesarily the case, bro.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that Milly Ray Cyrus

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You sig...

Whats that mean?

I have encountered a lot of the mormon culture in Ohio, fucking annoying as hell..

Those guys in the white button ups and ties don’t leave you alone…

Never go to one of their bible study sessions… Worst experience of my life.

Got Miley?

by miles on Jan 1, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i was gone for the last 2+ months of the season

working in Utah with literally 2 days off the whole 2 months, the beer if you wanted it cold was oklahoma beer, and if you wanted real beer it wasnt cold.

funny story:

we walk into this 7-11 and im buying smokes. my buddy asks the cash lady where any “adult entertainment clubs” may be, and she responds chin high and ego higher that, “the closest club of that kinda is more than an hour away!!!” my buddies response: “which way?”

its pretty as hell, but i got a massive feeling that Colorado folks said to the mormons 150 yrs ago, “you boys keep on walking, we dont live that lame”, and they just kept walking till california said, “whoa! whoa! whoa! not in our state! we dont like oklahoma beer” so they ended up on the western edge of the rockies.

anyway, hope that helps give ya a picture.

PS: miles, shouldnt you be getting laid right now on that “out of town college guy” angle? its the night after NYE and there are horny SMU girls doing blow right now! your missing out dude. think of your class. for christs sake, man…

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jan 1, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha,

Funny story, I need to tell that to the fucking annoying ass Mormons that keep on trying to convert me. Joseph Smith can kiss my ass.

Jay, you gotta get me those connections at SMU. I don’t care if they do blow, if they are hot then they are hot.

I can’t wait to get back to Ohio day on Saturdayyyyyy

"Being elite is not something that you acquire, it is something that becomes of you and your status" - Miles

by miles on Jan 1, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mormons

The Wyoming town (Evanston) on the interstate closest to the Utah border makes a killing on selling beer and porn.

Fun fact – Mormons aren’t particularly fond of lawyers and judges (kind of insulting since they bugged the hell out of me on Saturdays when I was trying to sleep). “The foundation of the destruction of this people is beginning to be laid by the unrighteousness of your lawyers and your judges.” Again, guess why this is in the Book of Mormon. What law could Mormons of old object to?

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 2, 2009 5:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately,

this happens in every sport. Ive had friends tell me when they were getting recruited or actually playing at certain schools (over my head, they were better than I was ha) for baseball that former players would come by and “hook them up”. Meaning by the time these former players left everyone’s fridge would be stocked for of all kinds of food, alcohol, clothes, stuff for their cars, etc. Of course the coaches didn’t explictly know. It was just understood that when you left these places and were successful, you took care of the program.

by Michael Cave on Jan 1, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thats interesting...

Sounds like schools do everything possible to one up.

At Ohio, they promised a prospect that he wouldn’t have to show up for training camp or practice if he signed… What a pathetic program…haha

Got Miley?

by miles on Jan 1, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

that is definitely a part of it. Yeah that Ohio story could be nothing but detrimental to everyone involved. That is why you have to admire the guys that are supposedly clean like Mike K, Bobby K, and ive heard nothing but good things about Wayne Graham (despite his misuse of pitchers sometimes) when it comes to recruiting.

by Michael Cave on Jan 1, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The house comment by brown

sounds like he was joking.

by cashman on Jan 1, 2009 11:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That kid lied about alot of this stuff -- he even admitted it

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=893953

Lufkin, Texas, defensive tackle Jamarkus McFarland said parts of a class assignment referenced in a New York Times article detailing his recruitment were “spiced up,” but the recruit and his mother stood by the remainder of the newspaper’s story.


JaMarkus McFarland and his mother stand behind many of the comments in a recent New York Times’ story.
The Times documented McFarland’s recruitment, culminating with a Christmas Day piece detailing his commitment to Oklahoma.

The Times article included inflammatory statements McFarland had written about the recruiting practices of Texas and LSU for a senior English class assignment.

McFarland said he embellished a passage taken from the English paper detailing free alcohol and drugs and topless women at a party of Texas fans in Dallas.

“Some things we knew were kind of mixed up because (the reporter) got a paper of mine,” McFarland said. "The paper I wrote for an English class – it was spiced up a little bit for class. But a majority of it was correct.

“I could have said I just went to a party. For an English paper – I’m taking a college course – you’ve got to explain. It’s brainstorming. If I knew he was getting it, I would have known what was right and what wasn’t right.”

McFarland declined to indicate what parts of his English paper were “spiced up,” but reiterated no Texas players or coaches were at the party in Dallas.

He said he was not sure how the Times reporter obtained the English paper but suspected a family member had given it to him.

“I didn’t know he had it,” McFarland said, referring to Times reporter Thayer Evans. “He came to my house one time when I dropped LSU (from consideration) just to observe. I think he got it then.”

A lavish party hosted by boosters, coaches or players during the recruitment of a prospect as McFarland described in his paper is forbidden by NCAA.

McFarland said neither he nor his mother have heard from the NCAA since the story was published. He said he has not spoken to Texas or LSU since the story ran.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/12/brown-questions-ny-times-story.html

In accordance with NCAA rules, Texas coach Mack Brown declined Monday to comment about Lufkin defensive tackle Jamarkus McFarland, who committed to Oklahoma at 12:01 a.m. on Christmas day.

But the New York Times story that detailed the recruiting struggle between the Sooner and Texas was fair game.

The piece, by writer Thayer Evans, detailed a wild party hosted by Texas fans in Dallas, which McFarland attended. It also reported the offer of an interest-free low to McFarland’s mother, Kashemeyia Adams, if McFarland were to attend Texas, although the offer did not come from a representative of Texas, according to Adams. McFarland later told Rivals.com that the party account had been “spiced up” for a class paper.

After the Texas traveling party arrived Monday in Phoenix to begin preparation for the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, Brown answered questions about the article, but not the recruit.

Asked about if he had any knowledge of possible recruiting improprieties, Brown answered: “Absolutely not. We encourage the NCAA to check out every player we’re recruiting ever year. We call them and ask them to. We welcome them there.”


Brown was also concerned by a behind-the-scenes piece authored by Evans last season about California running back Darrell Scott, who eventually chose Colorado over Texas at the 11th hour.

“One-sided stories usually don’t make it when sources aren’t checked on the other side,” Brown said. “The story has absolutely no credibility with me because the writer did the same thing exactly last year and it’s obvious he has an agenda, in my mind, against Texas.”

Neither Brown nor Texas athletic spokesman John Bianco said they were contacted by the Times for comment before publication.

At the same time, Brown seemed ready to move ahead with bowl preparation.

“If I worried about everything bad written about me in my life, I’d never sleep,” Brown said.

Also, the kid claims he attended that party on Oct. 11th — the day of the Texas/OU game. Well, he took an official visit to that game as a guest of OU. He even sat in the OU section during the game. Recruits are supposed to be chaparoned at all times during those visits. Since he was a guest of OU, why was he at a crazy party like that and it’s UT’s fault?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 2, 2009 8:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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