Michael Young reportedly demands to be traded
by Adam J. Morris
on Jan 11, 2009 10:01 PM CST
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Rangers shortstop Michael Young asked to be traded after team officials told him in December that they want him to move to third base, according to major-league sources.
Young, 32, does not want to change positions. He was "absolutely livid" with the Rangers for making such a request just months after American League managers and coaches voted him a Gold Glove for the first time, one source said.
Rangers general manager Jon Daniels and manager Ron Washington informed Young shortly after the winter meetings that the team wanted him to play third to clear a spot for top shortstop prospect Elvis Andrus, 20. Club president Nolan Ryan did not attend the meeting.
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[Young] would rather be traded than displaced for Andrus, who has yet to play above Class AA, sources said.
Young's agent, Dan Lozano, declined comment.
"The basic feeling was, let's get all of our championship-caliber players on the field at the same time," Daniels said. "We know Michael is one of them. We believe Elvis will be one of them. What is the best way?
"The decision was made that what fits best is if Michael is willing to move to third base. It really comes down to what is best for the team.
"I have tremendous respect for Michael, the work he puts in, what he's accomplished. Part of our (contractual) commitment to him is because of his leadership and the team-first player he is. Hopefully his willingness to make that transition would send a positive message to the rest of our organization."
But Young is opposed to the move.
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The Rangers would seek a young third baseman in any trade for Young, sources said, creating the possibility of a deal with the White Sox, who could offer Josh Fields, or the Angels, who could offer Brandon Wood. The Mets and Dodgers also have expressed interest in Young this off-season.
I don't even know what to say about this. It will be interesting to see what the D/FW media reaction is.
UPDATE --
T.R. Sullivan has a little bit about it as well:
The Rangers have asked Michael Young to move to third base to make room for Elvis Andrus. Young has been adamantly opposed to such a move and the Rangers may explore the possibility of a trade.
Jeff Wilson says a conference call with Daniels is pending.
UPDATE --
The Rangers have asked Michael Young to move to third base. Young has asked the Rangers to explore a trade.
The Rangers want Young to play third base so they can use rookie Elvis Andrus at shortstop. The Rangers are reluctant to use Travis Metcalf at third base.
UPDATE --
Young’s outlook hasn’t changed, and Daniels said he has spoken with clubs about a trade. Spring training is approaching quickly — position players report Feb. 19 — and the prevailing hope is that Young will agree to the move before full-squad workouts begin.
“I wouldn’t use the term demanded, but he has asked us to explore trade possibilities,” Daniels said. “I realize we’ve asked him to make a move that he was not, in his own mind, planning to make at this point. I’m respectful of that.
“He’s always done what’s been in the best interest of the club and hope that he continues to do so.”
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heh
I can’t already tell you what the reaction will be.
by bdavison94 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:03 PM CST
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As I said in another thread.....
the slow news days are over.
by bdavison94 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:05 PM CST
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Dammit, Young.
A bunch of us have stuck up for you on this board, especially regarding your team-first attitude. Your boy ARod made the switch and the world didn’t end. Shut the hell up, move your ass to 3rd, and show the team that way overpaid to keep you in your declining years some friggin’ respect.
by Athos on
Jan 11, 2009 10:05 PM CST
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Kinsler > Young?
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on
Jan 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST
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He certainly was in 2008. But that has nothing to do with today’s development.
by Athos on
Jan 11, 2009 10:17 PM CST
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Heh
Just testing the waters …
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on
Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST
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Yes in regard to on the field talent...
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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i'm confident
he’ll concede and make the move after the initial shock subsides. i also think he’ll make a good 3rd baseman.
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by SteveP on
Jan 11, 2009 11:01 PM CST
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And then he'll be touted
as the classiest guy to grace the face of Earth.
Except for Tim Tebow.
by jonthefon on
Jan 11, 2009 11:02 PM CST
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TR already picked it up.
Here’s the key question: Where does Young end up and what do we get in return?
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:06 PM CST
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Texas, no one.
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on
Jan 12, 2009 12:13 AM CST
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I wonder why this is coming out now.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 10:06 PM CST
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Probably because...
…Young wants out, and there’s been not enough movement to satisfy his people that he’s getting dealt.
So he’s ramping up the pressure.
by Adam J. Morris on
Jan 11, 2009 10:08 PM CST
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Almost proves
That no one is a truly team-friendly player. Young is the guy I would expect to suck it up and continue to play, but he’s shown me that everyone has a limit for their pride.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:10 PM CST
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If that's his limit ...
then his limit is low.
by Athos on
Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM CST
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Agree
Just saying that no professional athlete is ever completely team-friendly.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM CST
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it's a job to them
and he would probably rather go to a team and win playing SS than lose more years here in TX playing 3B
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Jan 11, 2009 10:13 PM CST
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Maybe it's just me.
But if I had a contract for that much money to play for any team who I’ve been with since my Big League debut, I’m going to shut up and play and enjoy myself. He gets to play baseball for a living. What a punk.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:16 PM CST
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And this is only if the trade demand is true.
Don’t know for sure quite yet.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST
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Yah, JD throwing down some quotage and TR pcking it up seems to make it pretty damn legit.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:32 PM CST
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I mean when we hear something from him or his agent.
Which is sure to come within 24 hours from the looks of it.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:34 PM CST
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If you really think the Rangers aren't ever going to win ...
do everybody a favor and root for somebody else. That shit is getting really, really old.
by Athos on
Jan 11, 2009 10:16 PM CST
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shut up
I’m only trying to lay our a possible frame of mind that he could be thinking. The rangers have lost every year with Young. He’s seen Tex go to NY etc.
I’m a big Rangers fan, always have been, but if you have frustrations losing as a fan, imagine being a player. You get sick of losing.
As a fan, I would like to see the rangers win and become the talk of dallas, but since the rangers existences, we’ve won 1 playoff game. I look forward to a future of winning. and every year I have hope in winning.
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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It's attitudes like this that help keep the Rangers down.
For almost 2 years this franchise has made really good decisions. The fruition of which is beginning to hit the ML level. MY’s reaction is surprising. I would’ve expected some grousing about a move, but to act like he didn’t know it was coming is highly suspect. We’ve been talking about on here for a year. This conversation was not a surprise. IMO, MY didn’t think this would take place until next year.
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by Parman on
Jan 12, 2009 7:27 AM CST
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Biggio would have gone elsewhere.
The Astros only kept him to get him to 3000 (and they also overpaid). He made it clear he would have gone elsewhere for that.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:24 PM CST
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Probably the rare exception.
But the O’s did overpay him late in his career, so we don’t know if he would have pulled a Varitek.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM CST
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Hated the elderly.
Little known, but true.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM CST
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i didnt know that....
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 10:54 PM CST
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It probably doesn't make JDs bargaining position any easier, though.
And, I don’t really see how this helps JDs position in the trade market. He may receive more phone calls, but he won’t receive the value he wants. So….
Besides, who does MY think he is? Ripken moved to third. ARod moved to third.
Basically, MY is saying, “I don’t care what you get in return for trading me. I won’t play 3B, and I want out.” This is a very pissy thing to do.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM CST
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this shreds any value MY had...
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Jan 11, 2009 10:47 PM CST
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The DFW newsmedia reaction in a nutshell
1. He won a gold glove last year, so why should he have to move?
2. Outrageous to ask the clubhouse leader to move
3. Something playing up the fact that Nolan wasn’t in the meeting and how it’s entirely on JD/Wash.
4. Andrus is just a prospect and should never displace a vet like MY.
I’d be shocked if there was one columnist who isn’t on FOTF’s side of the argument.
by LiamP on
Jan 11, 2009 10:08 PM CST
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Mr. Pissbags will be.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 10:55 PM CST
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It's a weird situation...
…because FOTF is definitely a media darling because he “plays the game right” and “puts the team first.”
Yet how are the FOTF apologists going to excuse away his apparent refusal to “be a team player?”
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:09 PM CST
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That said...
…I am not happy about this. I like FOTF a lot, and I think he’s an important cog to the franchise.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:10 PM CST
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saddest part is,
that the one thing the rangers really needed to do to move past the ARod, Sori, MY, Chan Ho, loserdom era that has turned the whole franchise into Josey’s was to get rid of MY. But they were loyal to MY, to a fault. and even now wouldnt really thinkk about moving him, until this.
MY is actually doing the rangers a favor, b/c they never woulda had the balls to just move on. Now they can and it isnt the end of the world, in fact its a new beginning.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 10:58 PM CST
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Agreed
Those are my feelings too.
-- Micah
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"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller
by baseballismyboyfriend on
Jan 11, 2009 11:11 PM CST
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Yeah maybe
but what are we gonna do about third? Metcalf. Hope not. Duran. Hope not. Also, my feelings are that MY is the best 2 hole hitter in the game. I wouldn’t necessarily cry over losing a #2 hitter, but I think it will really hurt this lineup. IMO, when the dust settles, the team will be worse off. Too many factors working against the Rangers for this to work out ok.
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by Parman on
Jan 12, 2009 12:41 PM CST
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I can't believe this is actually happening
Obviously I was wrong that there was no chance they would move him until Elvis was ready.
Trade rumors have to be very real now..
Wow, when faced with Young actually possibly being gone, good for the team or not it would be very.. sad.
In the long run it would probably be better for the team, but it looks bad and I still wanted him on the team. I would have been fine with him being below average at 3b for a while. But obviously staying at SS for more than 1 to 1.5 years was going to create a real problem and if he flatly refuses to move.. what else can you do?
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Jan 11, 2009 10:09 PM CST
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I agree
I totally laughed off all the trade rumors floating around earlier, but I guess there must have been something to it.
I’m frankly shocked that this is coming out right now. I guess I believed the “team player” hype a little too much.
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by lisa w on
Jan 11, 2009 10:10 PM CST
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Lets Sori his ASS
no we arent trading you, you are moving to 3b, we arent asking. if you dont like it we can deactivate you and you wont get paid, but we arent trading you and you are our 3b.
yoda mind trick, i dont give a damn your just a player theory in action
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 11:05 PM CST
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Wow
Some excitement, I love it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:09 PM CST
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right right, at least some action
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 11:08 PM CST
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some initial thoughts
I am glad JD ased him now and not Feb 14 or when MY reports to ST.
2010 is when the Rangers are expected to seriously compete for the division. Let Andrus make his rookie mistakes in 2009.
Sounds like the Rangers believe Elvis can mentally handle the MLs now.
I expect the Rangers to also push Borbon, Holland, Feliz and Diamond.
Would you be happy with .220/.273/.261 from Andrus in 2009?
For some reason, I think MY will open the season at 3B for the Rangers.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Jan 11, 2009 10:10 PM CST
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Would you be happy with .220/.273/.261 from Andrus in 2009?
What kind of a question is that?
by LiamP on
Jan 11, 2009 10:13 PM CST
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Very valid one if they intend on playing him this year
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:14 PM CST
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Exactly.
Would you be happy with a crappy line from Andrus this season, assuming that Young gets dealt? That, I’d have to think on.
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by ghtd36 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:16 PM CST
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No
I don’t want to see Elvis in Arlington before July at the very earliest. He may be ready defensively but not offensively. It would be like promoting Feliz now because his fastball is ML ready
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by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:17 PM CST
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i believe the thinking is
if they are getting .220/.273/.261 from metcalf, arent they better off defensively getting the same production out of elvis, b/c of his range.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 11:10 PM CST
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Vizquel
That is the line from Omar Vizquel’s rookie season.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Jan 11, 2009 10:17 PM CST
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Oh I see.
I didn’t know you were trying to make that point; I just took the question at face (NO PUN INTENDED) value.
I don’t think he’ll hit quite that poorly either. At least I hope to god not if this whole scenario is even a remote possibility.
by LiamP on
Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM CST
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Good riddance
I hope he never plays another game for the Rangers. One of the most over rated players to ever put on the uniform. He was given credit for being a great guy because he volunteered to move to shortstop, even though shortstop is the more sexy position.
Now that he’s asked to move to third he is exposed. Good riddance.
by jthig32 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM CST
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This.
I always kind of laughed at the idea his move from second to short was some sort of heroic gesture.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:13 PM CST
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You Dont Ask Players to Move Positions You tell them!
-Frank
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 11:14 PM CST
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Holy shit.
I don’t even know what to say.
What a bastard.
I kind of hope they keep him and play chicken with his punk ass like Washington did with Soriano.
Even through all of the contract hate I always really liked FFace… until now.
What a little snot nosed punk bitch.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM CST
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I want to see him pull a Soriano
And refuse to play his position in Spring Training. See what kind of reception he gets then in Arlington.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:12 PM CST
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People blindly love him
it’s ridiculous, but if he gets bad press, we’ll see what happens.
if anything, the people will blame the FO
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Jan 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST
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Soriano
The difference here is he is under contract for 5 years and is guaranteed 60 million. Soriano was in his FA year and needed to play to earn that big contract he got.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:16 PM CST
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Let him refuse to take the field for even one game, then void his contract.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:17 PM CST
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lol
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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Unless I missed something
I don’t think its that easy
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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Refusal to Play
Is equal to reneging on your contract unless there’s a clause about his position.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:19 PM CST
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If it was that easy
Then don’t you think more teams would put players in positions they aren’t accustomed to playing simply to get out of their contracts?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:20 PM CST
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No
Because no player would refuse to play. Agents know it’s guaranteed money. And if they know they’ll be released and it would be beneficial financially, then the agent would push for that. But it would actually result in suspension without pay most likely.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:22 PM CST
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Then why hasn't it happened before?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:24 PM CST
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Yeah
If its that easy to get guys to switch positions or get out from under their contract why haven’t we heard about it happening before. Besides the Soriano situation where he was in a contract year I haven’t heard of any other player being threatened with voiding their contract or moving positions.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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They would probably fake an injury or something
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Jan 11, 2009 10:37 PM CST
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Or
they would file a greivance with the players association and battle it out in court and drag it out long enough that they would get paid no matter what
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on
Jan 11, 2009 10:38 PM CST
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First, teams want to win.
So they’re not going to play guys completely out of position. And guys that refuse to play are usually guys that are needed on a team, so teams just don’t even ask. You’re not going to play Barry Zito in the outfield because of his contract. Players and agents are smart enough to know their situations.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:39 PM CST
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LOL.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM CST
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Heh
Even better, refuse to pay him under the rules of baseball and suspend him, then let him sit by and watch his career say goodbye.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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Why?
This is a chance to get rid of that bad contract and pick up something decent in return.
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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There's no way we move his whole contract and get something decent back in return.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST
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True but...
If they do move him and get a young prospect back in return the could spend that money they save on a type A pitcher aka Sheets. Yes, No?
Miami bound...
by boomer1 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:30 PM CST
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Damn it, F Face.
Get over yourself. Just cause you won a GG doesn’t make you a good SS. Tex-Douche F Face-Douche Blalock-kind of a douche. The future looked bright in the 2000’s with them manning the infiled, they all turned out to be douches. . Glad he won’t be here when we start winning.
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by AirJordan on
Jan 11, 2009 10:12 PM CST
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I'm glad you don't like Blalock either.
Doesn’t sign autographs willingly.
by aggierangerfan00 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:13 PM CST
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Sounds like the team figures that Andrus will need a half season in AAA to be ready.
So the real reason why the team has not been active in the 3B market was they already had one and where looking to pick up a cheap short term stopgap SS.
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Three important questions
1) Who do we get in return? (do we target a young pitcher? or a 3B?)
2) Who plays 3B in the short-term and long-term?
3) Does the money saved from an MY trade result in money being re-allocated toward pitching?
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:13 PM CST
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Doesn't Josh Fields suck at 3rd?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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Jan 11, 2009 10:14 PM CST
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that's what I thought
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST
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Josh Fields sucks in general
the preceding post was a great success.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:16 PM CST
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You don't know that.
He might be awesome at stuff other than, you know, baseball.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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Yeah, you should clarify.
Josh Fields sucks at baseball.
Josh Fields, however, is a terrific cook.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:24 PM CST
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Fields hit 23 HRs in 373 ABs his rookie year....
…and was injured most of last year. He’s basically Chris Davis with a lower batting average. What about that sucks so much?
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Jan 11, 2009 10:39 PM CST
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right time?
Isn’t this the right time to do it if they believe MY will want a trade? They can anoint a new FOTF, attendance is already going to be down in 2009 with or without MY, break in Andrus now instead of 2010.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
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Jan 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST
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I wouldn't break in Andrus yet
even if they trade Young. I think you have to give Andrus some time in AAA then you can call him up.
A stopgap like Cabrera or someone like that would do.
Wait 'til the year after next
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He's not saying they should
Hes saying they might to help explain why young is gone.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Jan 11, 2009 10:17 PM CST
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(of course.. you arnt technically saying otherwise.. so nevermind really)
the preceding post was a great success.
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clear
“The basic feeling was, let’s get all of our championship-caliber players on the field at the same time,” Daniels said. "We know Michael is one of them. We believe Elvis will be one of them. What is the best way?
I think it is clear from Daniel’s statement that Andrus would be the SS on opening day. At least that is his plan.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Jan 11, 2009 10:22 PM CST
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I don't know that I'd go that far
But it certainly appears they plan on him being there by Opening Day 2010.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM CST
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FA
Do you think they would go out and sign a FA SS on a one year contract and ask MY to move to 3B if they didn’t want Andrus at SS immediately?
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST
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I think if they traded Young...
…they’d talk to Orlando Cabrera about a one year deal.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:26 PM CST
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I'd like that deal
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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What about long-term?
Can Chris Davis play 3B in the majors?
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-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:28 PM CST
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Probably not
Well, he could, but I don’t think they want to do that.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM CST
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Figured they wouldn't want that
should be very interesting to see the rumors that start to fly on the internet.
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-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:30 PM CST
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No
Improving the defense starts with Michael Young moving from SS, and Chris Davis staying at 1st.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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Good point
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST
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For good measure ... no.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST
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So
you think JD asked MY to move to 3B and expected him to ask for a trade? What if MY doesn’t get traded? If the Rangers don’t trade him, doesn’t Andrus have to start at SS?
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
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Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST
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I would assume, they would want FOTF to start getting time at 3B because Andrus would be called up later this year if he performs well at AAA.
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST
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Really?
However, Daniels said that the team does not want to ask Young to change positions at mid-season — a scenario that could arise if the Rangers signed a stopgap at third base, started Andrus at Class AAA and then promoted him during the summer.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:24 PM CST
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good catch
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:26 PM CST
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no I dont think so
I think they believe he will be ready sometime next year with a very slim chance of that happening from the get-go. They want to give young a chance to work at third for 2 months and start there 4/1 instead of being forced to move him to a new position mid-season sans preparation when Elvis is ready. I think it makes perfect sense to make the move now.
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Jan 12, 2009 12:30 AM CST
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I guess his reaction is not unexpected
He obviously thinks he plays top-notch defense, so asking him to move for an AA guy would be pretty insulting.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST
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f'n dive then you punk prissy SOB
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
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P.R. Pressure
Might force them to sign Sheets. These trade demands are blessings in disguise, even with the lowered leverage(see Tex). Davis, Kinsler, Andrus, Fields sounds good.
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OR, it may put pressure on Young to accept of the request.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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Jan 11, 2009 10:17 PM CST
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I was thinking about that
Tell that to JD about Soriano.
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:18 PM CST
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if we traded him
we would still owe the 3M / yr of his deferred money through 2013 correct?
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Jan 11, 2009 10:19 PM CST
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Unless the other team agrees to pick it up.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:19 PM CST
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If we want something decent in return
We will pay it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM CST
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Network Alert: Scheduled downtime at 11 PM pacific tonight
Just when it was getting good
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
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Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM CST
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Pains me to see all the bashing of MY in the comments of news articles about this on MLBTR and other sites
deserved or not.
the preceding post was a great success.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:22 PM CST
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yeah, honestly if MY played in NY
he would be a hero. The guy is clutch when a game is on the line. He comes up with some big hits. He takes a few lumps because of his poor performance last year, but he only fell 17 hits short of getting 200 hits in 6 consecutive years.
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM CST
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I agree
Put yourself in Michael’s shoes and you’d be a little pissed too to be an All-Star Gold Glove winner and be asked to change your position for a minor leaguer, no matter how good his potential may be.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:24 PM CST
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Gold Glove
Regardless of how irrelevant the award may be to us, it’s still high praise from the people you work with and play against.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
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Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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which means his value would be really high
with managers and gms right?
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 11, 2009 10:28 PM CST
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Not quite
“managers and coaches” don’t make the decisions on trades.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
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Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM CST
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like for instance Ozzie loves MY
do you think that would have any influence on the gm? I would think a little
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 11, 2009 10:39 PM CST
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Yes I thnk so
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-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:39 PM CST
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Influence? Yes
Final say? Not really.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
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Jan 11, 2009 10:46 PM CST
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Which makes me wonder
if what Kinsler had to say reflects the general feeling the club has about it’s farm system.
Kinsler was on 105.3 earlier.
Interesting note, they asked him about the minors and he said he doesn’t pay any attention to it. Basically, until the prospects get to the big leagues and prove themselves he’s not worried about what’s going on in the minors.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!
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Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM CST
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why?
Its not his job to worry about some kid who may or may not ever see the big leagues. He needs to worry about the next game. I think his comments are on point
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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yeah
worrying about Julio Borbon’s walk rate is OUR job.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on
Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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+1
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:42 PM CST
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unless their are a few decent 2b prospects in our system
thenn he should pay attention
:see MY
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:31 PM CST
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Not really. Just realistic.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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Major League ball players
Once they leave the minors, I don’t think they want to ever think about it again
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
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Jan 12, 2009 12:04 AM CST
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The best part of Rosenthal's article is...
“If the White Sox acquired Young, they likely would play him at second base and follow through with their plan to move Alexei Ramirez to short.”
I think most teams that traded for Young would want him somewhere other than SS.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:22 PM CST
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Hilarious for two reasons.
1) The point you made.
2) Ramirez is such a butcher at second I can’t imagine him at short.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST
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best range of any 2b i saw last season though
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Jan 11, 2009 11:33 PM CST
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Seriously?
Just from my anecdotal analysis, I’d take a few two sackers above him. Including Kinsler.
But, anecdotal analysis is not that helpful in this regard. And it would seem, like Kinsler, he did nothing with it if he indeed had all that range.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:34 PM CST
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Trade?
So what do you guys think of possible trades?
I wonder what we could work with Boston, regardless of AJM’s opinions which i dont agree with.
I really like MY so I hate to see this but it puts the team in a bad spot now
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Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM CST
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Anything to get out from under that contract
the time to be picky is not now. Strike while the iron is hot.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:26 PM CST
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what the flying f just happened here?!??
WOW!
from 24 to seeing slumdog millionaire win the golden globe to this…what a night.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST
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Should've watched 24
instead of watching the Mavs shit on their own faces again.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST
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24 was awesome.
Gonna be a great season.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
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Jan 11, 2009 10:26 PM CST
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I dont know about awesome
but it was a solid debut. 8/10.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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I like Evil Tony.
Though, being 24, he’s a double agent and not really an Evil Tony.
Go Rangers!
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Jan 11, 2009 10:32 PM CST
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I read somewhere that its suppose to be a good reason
Why he changed bad. I think its suppose to be relieved tomorrow. Still haven’t watched tonight’s episode though (on the DVR), hoping to catch it tomorrow
In Smoak We Trust
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Jan 11, 2009 10:38 PM CST
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If it's revealed tomorrow, I would guess he's gonna die tomorrow.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 10:41 PM CST
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hmm
considering he hasn’t actually killed anybody, I was pretty sure he was working undercover.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:54 PM CST
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What about the people's champ
Mickey Rourke?
Freddie King rules faces.
by Ryin A on
Jan 11, 2009 11:02 PM CST
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low trade value
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:34 PM CST
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If nothing else...
doesn’t this manifest the difference between Texas/NY Yankees and Jeter/Young?
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST
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And on an OT note
Jonah Street withdraws from the Dakar Rally. Damn!
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
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Jan 11, 2009 10:26 PM CST
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I have no idea what that sentence means.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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+1
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
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Dakar Rally
Rally race normally held in Africa, this year in South America. Normally only corporate-sponsored guys win and almost never Americans – Jonah Street is American and has no sponsorships, and was in second overall in the motorcycle category.
Lots of things happening in my sports world tonight.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
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Jan 11, 2009 10:30 PM CST
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As someone with negative interest in the Rally...
and all things motor sports, really, I still thought it was cool when all the cars drove by… basically in front of our apartment while we were walking to dinner a couple of weeks ago.
LOL Sorry the Sooners will score more that 14. - boomer1
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Jan 11, 2009 10:49 PM CST
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damnit
there goes any leverage we had with the White Sox.
I guess we were never getting Poreda but Kenny Williams is probably going to laugh his ass off if we ask for any pitcher in return.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
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Jan 11, 2009 10:26 PM CST
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So say he is traded, Elvis is great in ST and gets the job, and we Sign Crede for 3b.
The IF defense is pretty nice at least.
the preceding post was a great success.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST
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Maybe we get a 3B in return instead of Crede.
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rather get a young pitcher
if possible.
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
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worst reply ever comming
since obviously MY and the Marlins would never have anything to do with each other but I’d love it if the Rangers got someone like Matt Dominguez in a deal. So maybe something with MaxRam and Dominguez in it, and MY shipped elsewhere?
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Jan 11, 2009 11:04 PM CST
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and id like to see MY on a team shittier than us
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 11, 2009 11:36 PM CST
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send him to KC
Wait 'til the year after next
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Jan 12, 2009 7:57 AM CST
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we need to trade him
maybe the rangers are just happy with someone taking the contract off their hands but I don’t see why it’s easier to trade him now then it was 5 days ago when his contract was considered an albatross
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:28 PM CST
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well the whole bonuses 12 mil vs 16 mil thing did come up..
the preceding post was a great success.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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Fuck Michael Young!
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
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Jan 11, 2009 10:28 PM CST
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brilliant analysis.
Thank you for sharing.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:32 PM CST
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You are welcome.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
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Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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Hey, you got a rec from me ;)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
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Jan 11, 2009 10:35 PM CST
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Woot.
It’s in green now. Suck it bitches.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
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Jan 11, 2009 11:04 PM CST
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i rec'd too
screw him
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Jan 11, 2009 11:37 PM CST
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I wish there was a negative rec option, a la Digg.
While he may have had questionable defense at times and even poor offensive production last year the fact is Michael Young has been a consistent producer and consumate leader for this team. I’ve got to think at first that maybe there is more to this than what has been said so far in the media. The “Fuck Michael Young!” opinion seems a bit rash and is definately uncalled for.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:12 PM CST
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Relax.
It was a joke. If you have been here long enough, you would have understood it.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
by coolaid on
Jan 11, 2009 11:22 PM CST
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mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:38 PM CST
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Michael Young's Saber.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:51 PM CST
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that is awesome
I just imagine Young going into battle with that thing.
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Jan 12, 2009 8:56 AM CST
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So now...
…do you package Salty and FOTF to Boston in a mega-deal?
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by ghtd36 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM CST
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Why would boston want michael young?
Unless they trade lowell.
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:30 PM CST
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Even if they trade Lowell
Shit, I’d rather move Youk to 3B and bring up Lars Anderson early.
by LiamP on
Jan 11, 2009 10:32 PM CST
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they'd just happily accept all that salary?
do they have a salary we would take on?
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by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:30 PM CST
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How about
Salty and Face for Daniel Bard + low level prospect?
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by chrisR on
Jan 11, 2009 10:32 PM CST
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Are you high?
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!
by sprite on
Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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sarcasm...
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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I think you guys are underrating how hard it's going t be to get out from under his horrible, horrible contract in this market.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:37 PM CST
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Yah, I'd probably want a little more, but you have to consider what a huge deal it would be to get anyone to agree to take him off our hands.
The market is so depressed right now.
His contract is ridiculous.
If Boston offered you, say, Bard + Delcarmen + Hagadone for FFace’s entire contract + Salty, what would you say?
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:42 PM CST
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I'd say
How about, Buch+Hagadone+Delcarmen for half of F Face’s contract and Salt.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!
by sprite on
Jan 11, 2009 10:47 PM CST
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They're not gonna trade us Buchholz.
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 11:06 PM CST
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It was done tongue in cheek.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!
by sprite on
Jan 11, 2009 11:07 PM CST
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Salty for Bard doesn't even make sense
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:38 PM CST
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Would they take on the entirety of his contract?
And would the low level prospect be a decent prospect or just a hamburger?
I’d probably ask for a little more.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:36 PM CST
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Unless they're taking Young's full contact
I don’t see a point to this trade. Seems like we are selling low on both players
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by Smoak Some on
Jan 11, 2009 10:38 PM CST
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And because he would have nowhere to play there
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:39 PM CST
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What a good guy.
Yay Michael Young. Stand up to the man. Show them that over-compensated mediocrity gives you the right to make demands of your bosses when they ask you to do something you may not like.
by tlt29 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:30 PM CST
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I think that it's getting serious now
It’s made the TexasRangers.com website. The “normal” fans will have an opinion now.
by aggierangerfan00 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST
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this is really big news
if the rangers mattered, it would be ESPN big but the fact that your most beloved player is asking for a trade cannot be ignored.
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by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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blah blah we know nobody cares about us
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:34 PM CST
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What if it had been Jeter seeking a trade?
No matter how unlikely it would be?
ESPN would be crowded with it.
by jonthefon on
Jan 11, 2009 10:35 PM CST
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The Yankees would never ask jeter to move
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:35 PM CST
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Agree
His jump throws bring 10,000 people to the park every night. Pays for the contract itself.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:37 PM CST
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His jump throws also fuel my masculinity and stoke the fires that exist within my heart.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:38 PM CST
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it makes my sheets in the morning sticky.
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:39 PM CST
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If Jeter asked to be traded...
Sportscenter would be running a special by now, possibly at least 2 hours of declaring Jeter the greatest of all time by showing back to back to back jump throws to put Dirkatron in the mood…
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by Smoak Some on
Jan 11, 2009 10:40 PM CST
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Who cares?
MY isn’t Derek Jeter.
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:41 PM CST
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he would be if he played in NY
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on
Jan 11, 2009 10:42 PM CST
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He could handle the NY pressure?
You’re making a big assumption there.
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:42 PM CST
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Yah, for all the making fun of Derek Jeter's overratedness, he actually did come up pretty huge in a couple of playoff series and had a pretty ridiculous batting peak for a SS.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:46 PM CST
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I'm talking about him overall, not his jump throws. Those are underrated as hell.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:48 PM CST
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When I was about 13 or 14 I had an SI for Kids subscription.
One issue had an entire page about Jeter’s jump throws.
Not kidding.
by philkid3 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:20 PM CST
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That defines awesomeness by SI
right there.
by jonthefon on
Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM CST
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WHAT!?
Do you still have that issue lying around!?
Can you find the article online or something!?
Please!?!?!?!?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 11:36 PM CST
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I can try.
It was talking about the elite shortstops in baseball. Jeter was highlighted for the jump throw. A-Rod they said wasn’t a good fielder but was a great hitter and had a strong arm. They spooged all over Rey Ordonez and his acrobatics. And I don’t remember much about what they said about Nomar or Vizquel.
by philkid3 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:49 PM CST
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No one is Derek Jeter.
He’s the #1 Yankee of all-time. They’re just going to stop playing baseball as an organization the day he retires. They’re going to rename Yankee Stadium Jeter Field.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 10:43 PM CST
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You're an idiot.
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:43 PM CST
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the biggest thing
just say you don’t want to change positions and do it quietly. why do you have to demand a trade? publicly?
what a dick.
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by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST
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we saw this coming though
reports of him not wanting to change positions surfaced during the season…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
Jan 11, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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That's because
the Rangers knew for him to be competent at 3rd base in 2009 he needed to start taking balls asap and especially during this offseason. Sounds like MY shat all over that idea.
by shroomer on
Jan 11, 2009 10:36 PM CST
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clearly nothing has happened on Jan. 11th
that he needs to make a public statement now.
actually – he doens’t need to make a public statement ever! if he read any news, he knew that JD had shopped him to the Sox. Was he upset that we asked for Poreda?
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by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:37 PM CST
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He made a public statement?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:47 PM CST
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his agent
whatever. a Rosenthal article might as well be a public statement
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by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 10:48 PM CST
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Hmmm... I read it as Rosenthal getting a scoop from a "source" and then getting some react comments from JD and company.
If a player asks management for a trade, there’s only so long that can be kept on the down low, imo.
Good reporters like Robothal excel at getting information like this through back channels and sources.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 10:50 PM CST
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yeah
i think your assessment is correct. And thinking about it, I’m pretty sure MY is pretty upset this got leaked at all and that JD didn’t dismiss it completely.
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