Nolan Speaks on MY
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:06 PM CST
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The DMN article now up includes quotes from Nolan Ryan, along with Daniels quotes:
Rangers president Nolan Ryan said he talked with Young on Friday. He added that the club had been discussing the move for "some period of time" and not just this off-season. Ryan said Young has not been given adeadline or ultimatum.
"If he's not comfortable with it, then I don't think it would work for us," Ryan said. "So I think it's too premature to make any type of prediction about how this is going to play out and what the lineup is going to look like coming out of spring training.
"I think what was important was to present it to him and see how he felt about it and see what his reaction was and give him time to give it some thought and see if it's something he can be comfortable with or if it was something he was totally opposed to."
Ryan said he thinks the club will have a better understanding of how things will play out in the next few weeks.
"He deserves some time to think about it," Ryan said. "If somebody had asked me to go to the bullpen instead of starting, I'd have to give that a lot of thought."
Daniels said he understood the irony of asking Young to switch positions just after the 32-year-old won a Gold Glove as shortstop. But Daniels and Ryan feel Andrus, who batted .295 with four homers, 65 RBIs, 54 stolen bases for Double-A Frisco last season, is ready for a shot at the everyday lineup. He committed 32 errors.
Interesting that the news leaked after Young spoke with Nolan. Increases my suspicion that the story was leaked by Young's camp, after what appears to be Nolan backing the decision for Young to move.
With no Nolan quotes, and with the story being that Daniels and Ron Washington had met with Young, I was wondering if there was going to be some stories about how this was being done without Nolan's involvement.
Doesn't appear that's the case.
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Dang this is real exciting!
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on Jan 11, 2009 11:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A couple of hours ago I had pretty much given up on any interesting baseball news for the day
just randomly checked back here to see this. 3 posts in 1.5 hours – has to be a record for AJM
by JBImaknee on Jan 11, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
damn
you’re fast!
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 11, 2009 11:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that's what she said
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on Jan 11, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet.
One less point in Galloway’s column tomorrow.
by LiamP on Jan 11, 2009 11:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
granpa urine
will say it is a great move by Nolan Ryan.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 11, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing but great movement
from The Ryan Express
by naropean on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All this calls for kind of poll.
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by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
some* kind
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FOTF's trade request
is ruining everyone’s spelling tonight
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm glad Nolan was involved.
That provides some peanut gallery protection for JD and Worsh.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on Jan 11, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not that I think it makes a difference ...
as far as who leaked the story, but I think it makes just as much sense that it was the club as the player. If he’s really reluctant, they may be hoping that in the face of criticism from the media and looking like a jerk, Young will be quick to say he’s thought about it and if the team wants him to move, he’ll do it for the team.
Either way, if he forces his way out over this, I’m done with him. This has been a really shitty evening.
by Athos on Jan 11, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well
Nolan decides that the hit in leverage in trade negotiations is worth the possible benefit he’d get in media perception?
doesn’t really make sense.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If his hope is that they have to trade Young, then you're right.
If the hope is that Young accepts the move, then it might be a good move.
by Athos on Jan 11, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
maybe. but if they really want him to stay, they should probably refrain from pissing MY off
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time believing...
…the Rangers would go public with this in an effort to get him to switch positions.
If anything, it would make him less likely to switch, hurt their bargaining position with other teams, and is going to make them look bad to the fans. This is a p.r. disaster for the team.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This could be getting the fanbase ready
for a very underwhelming trade return, at least to the casual fan. The appearance that the Rangers had no choice but to trade him, could temper some of the anger that would no doubt be received if Young is traded for, say, Jermaine Dye.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 11, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You never get equivalent value
in deals such as these.
Why people are holding out for Poreda is beyond me. You dump him and sign Sheets if at ALL possible.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Jan 11, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam
Do you still think the Rangers want Andrus in OKC for half a season?
But Daniels and Ryan feel Andrus, who batted .295 with four homers, 65 RBIs, 54 stolen bases for Double-A Frisco last season, is ready for a shot at the everyday lineup
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 11, 2009 11:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who wouldnt want
a short stop who will hit 230 with 50 errors in the majors
by Beasticon on Jan 11, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
will you shut up
nobody cares
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no
people made fun of me at the time
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see one post saying 'yep, in oklahoma' and a +1 to that
Did you seek council for the abuse or find a way to deal with it on your own?
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by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2 out of 2 comments
that’s 100% of replies in a mocking tone…
and no i just masterbated more
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jan 11, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
mocking?
geez…. is it possible you need to get beat up even more than you already do?
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
beat
in what manner?
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jan 11, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With your bible.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Jan 11, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's beating off into his bible?
That’s a little sick.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Jan 12, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know what they say about a broken clock….
by RangersOCD on Jan 11, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and the nuts of blind squirrels?
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
loser
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
i actually won.
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jan 11, 2009 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
4th times a charm
you rule now.
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by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
so all you guys monitor everyplace i leave comments… i feel special now… i really do
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jan 11, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
stop spamming that shit
before i jam michael youngs head up your ass
by Beasticon on Jan 11, 2009 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If andrus hadn't sucked in winter ball while everyone else mashed away
Id feel better about giving him a shot on opening day (with a good ST).
But since hes defense first anyway he could suck offensively for a while and at least not kill you.
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by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
for a guy who's already prone to errors
I’d rather not heap the pressure of replacing the face as an added pressure of making an MLB debut on opening day
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They won't want to move Young to 3b in July
If Andrus is going to come up at all this year, whether it’s April or July or September, they’d probably want Young to move now.
by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Send him to the Giants!
They’re looking for a bat. I want Matt Cain. They can put Young at SS to keep his ass happy and move the new;y-signed Renteria to 2B.
by tlt29 on Jan 11, 2009 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
renteria
isnt’ moving for young. At least, if I was Renteria, I would laugh my ass off if they asked me to move for Young
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's he going to do?
Of course, the Giants could always throw Young in at 2B and leave Renteria.
I don’t care what it is…I want Matt Cain.
by tlt29 on Jan 11, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
young would veto a trade to the giants
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
he only wants to play SS? Or is it only playing 3B for the Rangers that pisses him off?
by jonthefon on Jan 11, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he gets his wish to be traded I'm sure he'd move
Send somewhere nice and maybe closer to home, and I’m sure he’d have other thoughts about moving.
by tlt29 on Jan 11, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Send him to the Dodgers...
…for Andruw Jones and Chad Billingsley.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
word
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 11, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about him
Young can play 3B for the Dodgers.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which you know
is so much better than what he wants to do in Arlington…
by jonthefon on Jan 11, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No way. I'd want more. We throw in Cat and they throw in Kershaw and Broxton. Then it's a deal.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on Jan 12, 2009 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You want Cain?
turn on your PS3 and autoforce that trade on MLB 09.
It. Is. Not. Happening.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cain will NOT be a Giant in 2010
He’s going to be dealt for a bat since the Giants have absolutely NO sticks in their system.
by tlt29 on Jan 11, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why he's being discussed for
Prince Fielder and the like. Not a 32 year old declining offensive SS with little to no range left.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's being discussed for Fielder?
Where? I have not heard word 1 about that out here. And I listen to the flagship KNBR all day long.
And who is ‘the like’?
And the Giants tend to like older players…Sabean has a geriatric fetish.
by tlt29 on Jan 11, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean predicts injuries.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Jan 11, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Check MLBTR archives from December
It was lukewarm, but that was the name i saw thrown around for Cain. He is young, and has a friendly contract. You don’t give that up for Young.
Cain talks will involve Davis. Or Kinsler if they want to add a significant piece. Getting talent requires giving up something good too.
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
more reasonableness from Nolan
becoming quite the trend
Mass X Acceleration = Force
by SteveP on Jan 11, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm so excited
I’ve been so bored lately. Thanks for being a douche Face!
by hiafex on Jan 11, 2009 11:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i dunno, seems appropriate…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 11, 2009 11:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
veto
imagine if young actually vetoes a trade. i think some LSB poster would become famous that day
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
MY
this probably gives him a good excuse to get the hell out of this shithole of a team. Asking for a trade because we suck would make people think of him like Tex.
by kumizi on Jan 11, 2009 11:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope someone does a report on how Max Newberg feels about it.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 11, 2009 11:23 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I can't wait till tomorrow
Real baseball news once again! What am I suppose to do during the scheduled down-time???
by hiafex on Jan 11, 2009 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Google Reader
is gonna be jammed full tomorrow morning.
by aggierangerfan00 on Jan 11, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
chances that young gets traded
I say barely 50%
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So whats the resolution if he doesn't get traded?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 11, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
third base
he’ll move
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, fresh quotes
“I’m not playing third base. I’m pretty adamant about my stance. I told them I wanted to be traded. The biggest misconception is that I was asked to move to third base. I was never asked. I was flat-out told. I was told I was playing third base. I felt that I had absolutely no say. I don’t feel like there was any discussion or dialogue about the matter.”
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 11, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Send MY to the Padres and get Kevin Kouzmanoff back.
Padres can move Headly back to 3B, and who really cares what they do with Khalil.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 11, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They traded Khalil
And they are cutting salary, not adding it.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
John Moores
One of our finest UHLC alumns…
by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. I don't remember. But, now I do.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 11, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jays, SF, CWS, the Mets (if they can move Castillo), etc. There a few teams want to fill or upgrade at 2B.
Maybe the O’s could get him and have him play SS, then move him to 2B next year after Roberts has left as a FA.
"I lost my virginity but I still have the box it came in."
- Unknown
by Rangerchick on Jan 11, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i bet Young vetoes any trade to a team that has a SS in place
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Izturis
is only making $6 mil the next couple of seasons. He wouldn’t be excessively expensive for a backup middle-infielder.
"I lost my virginity but I still have the box it came in."
- Unknown
by Rangerchick on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rich talks to MY:
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/01/just-talked-with-michael-young.html
"Fuck Michael Young" -Coolaid
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 11, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
adds fuel to adam's theory
“I’m not playing third base. I’m pretty adamant about my stance. I told them I wanted to be traded. The biggest misconception is that I was asked to move to third base. I was never asked. I was flat-out told. I was told I was playing third base. I felt that I had absolutely no say. I don’t feel like there was any discussion or dialogue about the matter.”
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does that change your trade % chance at all?
hes had a few days on it and is very adamant.
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by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Has to.
95%
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 11, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i just don't think he's the type of person that would hold out
and the situation doesn’t techncially need to come to a head right away. they can play him at SS to begin the year if they want to go that route.
I just dont’ see the rangers making a trade where they pay for the majority of Young’s salary
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm expecting a Young for Dye trade.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the only trade that seems feasible
off the top of my head…
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Straight up for Andruw Jones.
Or really any bad contract.
How about straight up for Luis Castillo? The Mets freaking hate him and he’s due 6mm in each of ’09, ’10, and ’11. Castillo is pretty bad, but maybe we could turn around and deat some of his contract to dump him, or just use him as a utility guy. I dunno.
But there are options if we really wanted to to deal him is my point.
I just doubt we’ll deal him at all.
Write his name in the lineup card at 3b and make him pull a bitch move. Call his bluff. There’s no way he refuses to take the field. He’s a stupid idiot douche bag, but I don’t think he’s that douchey. No one’s that douchey, are they?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on Jan 12, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if you take Jones
You could actually get a decent prospect as well.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 12, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
FFace is horrible.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on Jan 12, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
50% is a pretty high percentage
if anything, his “list” lowers the chances that they can pull it off
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would a discussion be necessary?
Does Young think that he knows what’s better for the direction of the team? I don’t get it.
by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who can blame Young for feeling this way?
This whole thing is about the contract and not about his defense or the fact that they really feel Andrus is ready.
Dumbass Daniels gave him a 5 year / $ 80 million deal and that contract takes up nearly 25% of the payroll (and it goes to a 32 year old SS when everybody and their dog knows that most players are in decline when they turn 32).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
…your position is that they are doing this to piss him off and make him accept a trade to get his contract off the books?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam,
I don’t know what the hell they’re doing.
Doesn’t he also have a NT clause in his contract?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you are taking Young's stance over Nolan's?
interesting…
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan is just an egg-sucking company man...
…doing what Hicks and JD demand of him. Daniels probably has Nolan making donuts in the back room right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
glorified press secretary
probably gets told what to say to the press 5 minutes before he says it and then goes back to selling meat.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Genius take, Adam.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So whose word do we take?
Whoever said he was gradually being approached about moving or being “flat-out told” as he said?
by jonthefon on Jan 11, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
of course he was told
approached is the same as told. everybody told him. if he came here, we would have told him.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And what you have to remember
with these dipshits is that it is very rarely every about winning and much more about making money…otherwise we would have Arod here thru 2007.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get your stance here at all
So is it your opinion that the Rangers are doing this to get out Young’s contract?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 12, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Has Michael Young blatantly lied to the fans in the past?
Has the Ranger front office blatanly lied to the fans in the past?
I believe Michael Young.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he takes this stance because he saw
soriano get away with it etc. saw tex request a trade. and they are both playing for playoff teams.
MY got paid now he wants to play for some1 else. Screw him. Trade him, but not if you can’t get a good return.
Force him to play 3B, if he refuses, like its been said he doesn’t get paid.
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Jan 12, 2009 7:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
btw
a fucking list of teams he’d accept trade to?
fuck off dickface. if we can get any sort of trade for you it will a miracle. and now you want to decrease those odds even more?
hopefully this list overlaps the list of teams that can possibly afford him
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the list is pretty ridiculous
better be long.
also not a big fan of these ranger bashing (surely) conversations with teammates, though I guess you can’t blame him for calling friends.
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by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
quote
we’ll snatch your job away no matter what happens
Michael, you are a baseball player whether you play SS or 3B.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and you'd still be starting
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And still being paid
16mil a year.
by jonthefon on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no joke, ridiculous
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Jan 12, 2009 7:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting paid the exact same insane ammount of money.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and probably extending your career
at a less strenuous position.
"I lost my virginity but I still have the box it came in."
- Unknown
by Rangerchick on Jan 11, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck sake's
can’t believe he doesn’t realise that. It’s probably making his job easier by moving to third. Put on a little more weight…
by jonthefon on Jan 11, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As many have said
Young for Dye. Book it. It actually makes too much sense. If we can get them to add Betemit, all the better.
by clark on Jan 11, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i guess
we will just have to be happy for the one for one swap.
I just don’t think Kenny Williams will do it for the price. Young’s contract is really big but really really long.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on Jan 11, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are Dye's cap figures?
I’m sure this is fresh in somebody’s mind.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Young
is still considered a pretty solid player by most people around the league, and Ozzie is known to covet him. people who suggest he has negative trade value are just being ridiculous.
The Rangers should accept nothing less than Dye, and that would be the minimum you accept. If they can’t get a solid offer, then you keep him. Their hand is not forced here.
by clark on Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
they take into account Young’s finger injury when assessing his performance this year and conclude ’08 was an anomaly and not the start of a precipitous and lengthy decline.
"I lost my virginity but I still have the box it came in."
- Unknown
by Rangerchick on Jan 11, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said above: Luis Castillo.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on Jan 12, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also
how shitty can the dallas sports scene get? probably not seattle level shitty, but still. the DMN sports page has become a very depressing place, lately.
by clark on Jan 11, 2009 11:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You've Gotta Love the Story Shaping
Of course, they don’t present Young as the defensive liability that he is at the position (statistically speaking), but instead as a “Gold Glove” at SS, which to the unknowing reader implies that he’s the best defensive shortstop in the league.
Rangeressary
"the poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." - G.K. Chesterton
by rangeressary on Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
yep, fools
stupid fake gold glove
Wait 'til the year after next
by NothinG on Jan 12, 2009 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm intrigued by the intensity of MY's reaction
What is it about third base that he hates so much? Can he not stand the thought of getting to field less balls? Not being a part of a double play combo? Is the whole status of a third baseman so much less than a SS on a baseball team that he doesn’t think he could continue to be a leader? Is “Short Stop Michael Young” so ingrained into his identity now that his ego couldn’t take the change? I mean, he’d still hit high in the batting order and everything…
Or is it not about the position at all?
I was really hoping this transition could go off smoothly. I cringe at MY at SS as much as the next person, but I also want him to still be on the team when the wins and playoff runs start rolling in. It’d be that much sweeter to have that continuity.
Can’t he see the genius of a Davis/Kins/Elvis/MY infield? Damnit.
by tangiers on Jan 12, 2009 12:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
its not the status of SS vs 3b
Its HIS status at ss vs HIS status at 3b. .300/.345/.415 players don’t make all star teams at 3b.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 12, 2009 12:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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