Michael Young quotes -- he's not happy
by Adam J. Morris
on Jan 11, 2009 11:40 PM CST
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Richard Durrett with some Michael Young quotes:
"I'm not playing third base. I'm pretty adamant about my stance. I told them I wanted to be traded. The biggest misconception is that I was asked to move to third base. I was never asked. I was flat-out told. I was told I was playing third base. I felt that I had absolutely no say. I don't feel like there was any discussion or dialogue about the matter."
"At this point in my career, I didn't think it was fair to move. I reached out to teammates and former teammates and veterans to get their thoughts and everyone supported me. All I've ever done is think about the team and do what's best by them. But at the same time, when it comes to long-term commitment and respect factor, it should be a two-way street."
"I think that I've always been committed to this organization. I signed here. I wanted to stay here. I've been big on loyalty and mutual respect. But sometimes you have to worry about a message that might be sent about the organization and players. What does it say about the organization when you get to a point that no matter what you do, we'll snatch your job away no matter what happens. That's what happened."
Durrett also says Young has provided the Rangers with a list of teams he'll accept a trade to.
Given these comments, I think the Rubicon has been crossed. Michael Young will not be playing for the Rangers in 2009. He'll be traded, probably before the week is up.
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Does this mean he won't be at the awards banquet?
by mattrpav on
Jan 11, 2009 11:41 PM CST
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Oh my.
That might be the best post of the night.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST
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that should be awkward.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST
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Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
by rangers85 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:09 AM CST
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wow
Young’s comments are exceptionally undiplomatic.
by Randy Richardson on
Jan 11, 2009 11:43 PM CST
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Yeah
he’s gone. Crazy.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 11, 2009 11:43 PM CST
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Wow
This is like the couple who is always lubby-dubby(?) in public suddenly getting divorced out of the blue. Young is the one going around in public listing all of the horrible things the other one did. Nasty
I’m bummed – I like MY. I saw him as a possible HOFer – kind of the Biggio type who gets 3000 hits over 15-20 solid years in the Texas uniform.
by JBImaknee on
Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST
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Michael Young...
is about as much of a possible HOF’er as I am. He gave the Rangers a few good years and he’s built up a decent nostalgia factor as a clean cut white boy who gives good interviews, but he’s just not a good baseball player anymore. He’s below average with the bat and glove, and is one of the biggest problems on the roster. If anyone gives up real value for an expensive, declining middle infielder who can’t field or hit as well as an average major leaguer I’ll be shocked.
by slamcactus on
Jan 12, 2009 12:05 AM CST
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He's not quite as bad as you are saying...
I agree though that his recent decline has been faster than I would have anticipated. I’m mostly talking about my perception of him a few years ago. But he’s still a strong hitter for the SS position.
As for his value, remember that trade value is about perception, not about sabermetrics. He is still perceived as a very good player by most of the league. Thus he has value. Maybe not enough to offset that huge contract, but he still has some.
by JBImaknee on
Jan 12, 2009 12:09 AM CST
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Yes he is
I didn’t say he was horrible, but he was -10 with the bat last year and -4 in the field compared to an average major leaguer. That’s a guy who should make around $7 million a year, and his price tag spikes in a huge way next season right as his value looks to nosedive. Last year he was a below average player. He’s inked for 5 more seasons at a ridiculous price. High price + low value = virtually untradeable player unless another team is incredibly stupid.
by slamcactus on
Jan 12, 2009 12:14 AM CST
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The expression is 'lovey-dovey'.
You can hear its proper usage in one of the greatest blues songs ever.
by oc on
Jan 12, 2009 1:04 PM CST
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Whoa.
I thought $60M was a pretty big pile of respect.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST
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Enough of the 60 / 80 crap.
We all get the distinction. Let’s move on.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
by benmor78 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:09 AM CST
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Goddamn
I’ve never agreed with anything you’ve said more.
by brettgardner on
Jan 12, 2009 12:09 AM CST
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This truly is the strangest of nights.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:10 AM CST
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Tomorrow's going to suck
After all, it is the end of the world.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Jan 12, 2009 12:48 AM CST
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Shit just hit the ceiling
At least there’s finally something to talk about.
by jonthefon on
Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST
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Not even Roger Dorn would say something like that
This is Jack Parkman territory…
by cstorm15 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST
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zing!
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:52 PM CST
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By birth or by choice...
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:39 AM CST
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I never thought this day would come...
The Rangers told a player you would play a position regardless…
and now MY is going to be traded. What happened JD? Your sucking again at being our GM! I request a new GM instead…
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:44 PM CST
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Strange this happened with MY and not Soriano.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST
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you never thought the management would actually manage?
maybe we should just let the players pick whatever position they want to play. Works wonders in coed intramural softball, why not the pros?
by JBImaknee on
Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST
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Hahaha….
maybe we should. I wish I could take his job away right now. I hate the way he’s done a few things!
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST
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youre talking about mike young right?
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:40 AM CST
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01/11
never forget
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST
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my b day was yesterday, i consider this a present from god
thank you god. im a believer now.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:41 AM CST
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Did MY check with the teams on his list to make certain
they want him to play SS?
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST
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good point
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST
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MY's LIST
Yankees
Red Sox
LAAAofAAA
Dodgers (they always roxors)
Tampa Bay (they roxors now)
Arizona (ill make them roxors)
Chicago (Ozzie loves me, i always liked ozzie smith. Cubs with Sori at 2b and me at SS we’ll be awesome)
Detriot (they’re rich ill buy me a championship)
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:45 AM CST
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so
was this before or after the Newberg book release?
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST
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...
Could have been before…he sure acted like he didn’t want to be there.
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST
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Just to clarify...
…are you saying that he acted like he wanted to be there, or that he didn’t act like he wanted to be there?
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
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Jan 11, 2009 11:50 PM CST
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Thanks for the clarification.
You have no idea how much I anticipate reading your thoughts tomorrow morning.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
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Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST
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well he misspelled his name...
in my book.
J/K!!!
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on
Jan 12, 2009 12:24 AM CST
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That's the way he came off...
to me…maybe it was bc I was at the end of the line.
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:50 PM CST
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I was about an hour+ back in line
and he seemed like he was still having a great time. He was chatting it up with Zimmerman and giving Teagarden some crap and was still having fun with the fans. Its kind of funny to read all this now and see that it happened before the book signing.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Jan 12, 2009 12:51 AM CST
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I don't think it happened before the book signing.
by Jamey Newberg on
Jan 12, 2009 12:59 AM CST
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Do I have my dates confused on this?
When did the Winter Meetings end?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Jan 12, 2009 1:00 AM CST
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and looks like you couldn't resist
reading the message boards :D
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Jan 12, 2009 1:01 AM CST
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I agree
I think this happened once they got back from Vegas.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 7:23 AM CST
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He acts like he took a hometown discount.
What a jerk. Fans should be genuinely insulted by his comments. Their money was spent so that he would remain a Ranger. He made it clear that he was not going to take a discount to do so. Now he’s throwing it back in our faces, this after getting the big bonuses from the signing of the contract that bring it down to about 5/62.
Michael Young has just shown his true colors. I may not have liked the contract, but I still liked the guy and respected him. Now I just see him as another tool in a baseball uniform.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 11:45 PM CST
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+1MM
"Fuck Michael Young" -Coolaid
by Kinslerhomer on
Jan 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST
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He
probably could have just gone to FA and got a similar contract from another team, a team that was more competitive. Instead he stayed with a team that put up 1 winning season the whole time he had been there. Can’t vilify him for wanting to leave now as his career winds down and there’s nary a shot at a championship on the horizon with the team rebuilding and being so young. That’s a big reason why A-Rod and M.T. left.
"I lost my virginity but I still have the box it came in."
- Unknown
by Rangerchick on
Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST
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No he couldn't have just gone to FA.
That’s not how FA works.
You have to play a certain amount of time first.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST
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The only thing that would have happened is he would have been traded around the same time Tex was
That team would have still picked up his option year and he might be a FA right now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on
Jan 12, 2009 12:52 AM CST
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We Overpaid.
And if we didn’t, we at least gave market value. He would have gone elsewhere if he really thought he’d get significantly more dollars. For the first time in his career, we’re actually a lot closer to winning. So that’s not the reason. The reason for this one is pride. Usually people can only speculate on that, but he actually is the one talking here. He’s not wanting to leave because his career is winding down, but because the Rangers wanted him to move positions. As a guy that made his baseball career out of being versatile and accepting wherever the coach put me with happiness about being on the field, guys like Young who lay their pride out on staying at a single spot piss me off. If he was really a classy guy, he would have said yes sir and thanks for including me in your future plans by investing so much in me. But his innermost thoughts about himself are coming out now, and it’s really sad for Ranger fans. The guy they idolized is demanding to leave because he has to move 40 feet. That’s sad.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST
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yeah i dont get the whole "they told me they didnt ask me" gripe MY has
dude, your a player. they are the ones who run the team. they dont ask players to do anything. they tell them to do things. they dont ask you to be at the stadium at a certain time, they tell you when to be there.
why is this different.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:54 AM CST
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Well...
Kinsler’s going to be pretty pissed.
by LiamP on
Jan 11, 2009 11:48 PM CST
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Jon Daniels
reminds me of the pansy Brian Urlacher in that deodorant commercial… however he will be the real Brian after this season.
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:48 PM CST
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He probably backs Mike up
JD is probably in a heap of trouble with the players right now…this is bad news Rangers fans
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:49 PM CST
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I was thinking about that too
…with regard to the repercussions of this among the other players…
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller
by baseballismyboyfriend on
Jan 11, 2009 11:51 PM CST
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What happens here...
players are upset…
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST
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The players need to grow up
This isn’t little league. Its professional baseball. If your department at work wants to move a vice president from marketing to accounting because a star marketer is coming on board, and he whines and complains, tough luck. Young is the one who values his teammates so little he wants out. JD isn’t forcing him out, he’s forcing him to 3rd.
by JBImaknee on
Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST
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I think players will understand that.
They understand it’s a business, so I don’t expect much to come from that.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:01 AM CST
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i am inclined to think
this is the beginning of the end for JD. Shit. This is just bizarre.
by clark on
Jan 12, 2009 12:01 AM CST
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Why?
It’s obvious to me that Daniels wouldn’t do something of this magnitude without mentioning it to Hicks and Ryan. This kind of thing definitely gets talked about among all the front office’s top people for a while before being enacted. This isn’t Daniels just going out on a limb by himself with an idea no one else in the office has discussed with him.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on
Jan 12, 2009 11:14 PM CST
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I think Young called Greg Ellis to ask his opinion
by cstorm15 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:11 AM CST
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lol
Greg is such a crybaby.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:11 AM CST
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So, let's say management decides MY is the championship player and Elvis must go.
Is it even possible to do that at this point?
Just to think through AJM’s thought that MY will be gone within a week. The only alternative is to trade Elvis. Management’s authority would be compromised if they backpedaled and moved Andrus. I think AJM is right. The lines are clearly drawn.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 11:50 PM CST
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How about just forcing MY to play 3rd?
Soriano style. He’ll get over it when he realizes he’s making 15 million a year.
by Schrute Farms on
Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST
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But now JD
has an excuse to try to trade that nasty contract.
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST
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I can see it now...
MY gets traded for a Twinkie. The Rangers sign Sheets. He goes on the DL after his first start. Andrus pulls a Blalock and is in OKC before May 1st. Everybody calls for JD to be fired.
Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year
by RangerMad on
Jan 11, 2009 11:52 PM CST
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Rich talks to JD:
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/01/thoughts-from-gm-jon-daniels.html
"Fuck Michael Young" -Coolaid
by Kinslerhomer on
Jan 11, 2009 11:52 PM CST
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Another choke..
MY won’t move…I just dont see it happening
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST
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Another choke?
What does that mean?
by Brett Perryman on
Jan 12, 2009 12:15 AM CST
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ok
i think you’re new so i’ll try to be nice.
stop talking.
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:18 AM CST
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yeah
as things go around here, that was pretty nice, though you did tell him to stop talking rather than ask him to stop talking…
by Goyogringo on
Jan 12, 2009 8:53 AM CST
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What's the best case return?
Is Dye even an option now that all leverage is gone? Maybe he is just from the standpoint of making the salaries work.
Go Rangers!
by rooster on
Jan 11, 2009 11:53 PM CST
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I have retracted all the credit I gave him for playing through the injury.
Needs about 300% more tact.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST
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i still don't understand why a trade happens
the only way a trade happens is if we take on MY’s salary. Why would Hicks allow that? Who is going to take the entirety of MY’s contract?
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:54 PM CST
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It helps that we've already taken on almost $20 mil
If the contract is indeed down to 5/62 left, that’s atleast closer to market than the original extension.
by cstorm15 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:56 PM CST
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I can't imagine that someone is ready to take on such a huge commitment for MY
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:57 PM CST
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This actually helps his trade value I think
Trading him before looked weird – why would the team dump their FOTF who won a gold glove and is a perennial all-star? Not everyone is as stat-centric as the Red Sox or A’s. But if Texas was selling their centerpiece, maybe they would begin to ask questions
Now, teams will look at him as a guy who has to be traded. Teams may be thinking – hey, the opportunity is here to get a franchise SS!
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Jan 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST
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It's still such a strange situation.
I can see how MY could be mad if Daniels and Washington (and Nolan, I guess) told him that they need him to move to third base.
But at the same time, it’s not like he couldn’t have foreseen this coming. There’s been discussion of this for a long, long time. This isn’t some new thing that’s sprung up in the past week.
It sort of seems to me, through reading these quotes, that he’s trying to take up the victim standpoint. “Big bad management is bossing me around, and I’m sick of it” type stuff. I trust that Young is being heavily coached by Dan Lozano right now.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 11, 2009 11:55 PM CST
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Fuck Michael Young.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:55 PM CST
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So how come JD suddenly
has the balls to tell MYoung that he is moving to 3B but when it came to telling Soriano he was moving to the OF, he pissed his pants?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Jan 11, 2009 11:57 PM CST
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Probably because:
1. The manager was not on board with Soriano going to LF, and
2. Soriano only had a year left, and he preferred dealing him and getting some in return rather than moving him to LF.
by Adam J. Morris on
Jan 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST
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And
JD was, at that time, only in his first few months as GM. I’m sure experience plays a role here.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller
by baseballismyboyfriend on
Jan 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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Well, if JD couldn't tell the manager that Soriano
was going to LF because it would piss off the manager…why the fuck is he the GM!?!?
Do that crap with Billy Beane and he’ll run your ass out of town.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:03 AM CST
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OK, stop.
Please.
Thank you.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:03 AM CST
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Billy Beane
Tony LaRussa left town just before Beane took over and JD pretty much ran Showalter out of town. Same sort of thing.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:05 AM CST
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You're right
it’s not possible for people to learn from their past mistakes. They never change. Ever.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST
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Wow.
You really just can’t help it, I guess. It doesn’t even annoy me—I’m in awe of it, actually.
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Jan 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST
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Stole the words from my mouth.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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it really is amazing
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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Because Nolan has his back.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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Bastard.
Stole my line.
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It was a tribute, brosephine.
Something about the most sincere form of flattery…
;)
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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do any ranger stars
leave on good terms? geesh.
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Rusty Greer and Jeff Zimmerman!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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I'm very disappointed.
Betrayal is the only term I can think of to describe this whole mess. If Young thinks he’s on the high ground in all of this, then he’s delusional. Those comments are about has wrong as they can be.
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How come we don't move Young back to 2B
a position that he played exceedingly well in the past and would not need to re-learn and then we could shift Kinsler to the OF?
Jeez, Kinsler doesn’t really have a choice in the matter either because he’s signed long-term as well.
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by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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Because Young wouldn't be a good defensive 2B right now, either?
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Jan 12, 2009 12:01 AM CST
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Young would be a better 2B than Kinsler presently is.
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by Josey Wales on
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wrong
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:04 AM CST
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Wrong.
"Fuck Michael Young" -Coolaid
by Kinslerhomer on
Jan 12, 2009 12:11 AM CST
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5th time isn't the charm :(
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by Agreen07 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:16 AM CST
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If I called you smart...
Would you disagree with me?
by slimshadty12 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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Young wasn't a very good 2B
in his last year at the position.
Get off my lawn.
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Jan 12, 2009 5:39 AM CST
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That's my feeling too
Maybe there was a problem with how he was approached (but I can’t see how it was out of the blue, since there has been at least some widespread local discussion of this happening for the last year or so, and Andrus is pretty highly regarded). But Young isn’t helping his “high ground” by acting like this.
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Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST
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I loved the quotes from scouts
in the Rosenthal piece that said he can’t go to his left. If he can’t go to his left, why the hell do you put him at third?
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by EssBee on
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Because
Going to your left at SS and going to your left at 3B are two completely different things. Going to your left at SS means going deep into the hole to get grounders. Going to your left at 3B is diving toward the line on a line drive. There isn’t a lot of lateral movement at 3B as opposed to SS
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Jan 12, 2009 8:50 AM CST
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argh
I hate it when I do that.
Ok well at SS involves going up the middle which is a good distance. Even if the 2B comes to help you have to move a long way. At 3B moving to the real left is only a couple steps because the SS is expected to cover their right which is the hole. 3B needs far less lateral movement than a SS.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
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I'm disappointed
In Young (I thought he’d move to benefit his career, evidently not). No one has hyped him (read that tried to offer positive support) more than I. It’ feels like a gut punch, or a Jekyll-Hyde transformation. But if a trade is inevitable, do it now – the sooner the better. And leverage the hell out of it. I know, now this is public, the return can’t possibly be as good as you’d want. Geeezzz, I day a day away and come back to this.
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by Ed Coffin on
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Why the hell make him learn a new position
at age 32? Move him back to 2B if you’re going to pull this shit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:01 AM CST
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Yeah
Because no other good, but aging, players have to move to less demanding defensive positions as they age.
by Adam J. Morris on
Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST
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So Adam
if you really feel that JD “has this thing going in the right direction” or whatever the hell it is you said, how do you excuse him for recommending the Rangers sign Young to this contract?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
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Why would...
Young agree to move to 2nd and not 3rd? You’re being stupid.
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
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Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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Did you know that it's never actually been conclusively proven that Cal Ripken moved to 3b later on in his career? There's a pretty large segment of baeball experts who believe it was all an elaborate mirage.
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What makes you think he'd be interested in doing that?
I think he made it clear he wants to play SS and nothing else.
Nevermind the fact that we have a glut of OF types and an all-star at 2B already.
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by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST
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2b is still the middle infield
a place where range matters.
range is not MY’s forte at this stage…
at 3b he’s required to make one maybe to steps to either direction, something he is capable of doing.
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by Ryin A on
Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST
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abo3, Ripken played 3B
quite a bit in his first two years in The Show and wasn’t asked to learn a new position later in his career, shit-for-brains.
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by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:14 AM CST
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new position
so that’s your main beef, huh.
how about ernie banks?
dumbass
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:23 AM CST
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Craig Biggio
moved from 2B to CF, which arguably is the most difficult position to play in the OF, at the age of 37 and acquitted himself quite nicely.
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- Unknown
by Rangerchick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST
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Was that a reply to me?
New position at age 32? Because there is precedent for it, including Ripken and I can’t name all of them off the top of my head. And as Adam has repeatedly pointed out, his tool skills would work OK or better than OK at 3b. I wonder if there is any chance he’ll recant, apologize, and back away from the trade request. Oh well … I’ve misjudged his tenacity to succeed with this team, I guess.
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by Ed Coffin on
Jan 12, 2009 12:09 AM CST
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Ripken played 3B when he first came up, Ed.
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by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:15 AM CST
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He split time.
The majority was at short.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:16 AM CST
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Ripken had 77 games at 3B
in ’81 & 82.
It wasn’t a stretch for him to make the move when he was 35.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:23 AM CST
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After 9 years of playing exclusively at SS?
Your position hold no water at all, yet you continue to stand behind it. Oh wait, this is Josey I’m replying to…
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Jan 12, 2009 12:26 AM CST
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Does anybody realize what a difficult position
3B is to play?
I’d expect an unsophisticate like abo3 to equate 3B to 1B but that’s him.
There are no automatics that Young will adapt to the position well, especially if he is having issues going to his left.
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by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:32 AM CST
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good fucking lord you are a dumbass
do you know how long the list of SS’s that converted to 3B is? It’s fucking huge.
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by ab03 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:34 AM CST
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And Johnny Bench was a terrible 3B
who had to switch positions because his knees were shot.
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by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:42 AM CST
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So... You're saying that SS is easier to play than 3B?
Give it up dude.
by hiafex on
Jan 12, 2009 12:45 AM CST
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Anyone suggested yet that MY play roover?
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-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:45 AM CST
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Both positions are
difficult but more importantly, those positions are also different and I would venture a guess that Young has never played 3B in his life.
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by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:47 AM CST
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He played it 20 years ago in middle school
so like Ripkin he should have no trouble making the transition….
by Goyogringo on
Jan 12, 2009 9:00 AM CST
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He doesn't have to apologize.
Just take the field at 3B and play hard. I’d be happy with that.
I’d expect him to be really mad in this situation. But, I’d also expect him to be more level-headed about it. Then again, he asked the opinion of other players, which seems like a level-headed thing to do, except that they are other players and you would expect them to disagree with management. So, it’s not like he looked for an objective opinion.
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by rooster on
Jan 12, 2009 12:17 AM CST
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Decent point
There are players with whom the MLBPA is godly, and with management it’s them and us.
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by Ed Coffin on
Jan 12, 2009 12:30 AM CST
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I don't see any team
wanting any part of Young’s contract so if we really want to get rid of him then we will have to eat a lot of the salary.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
by coolaid on
Jan 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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I really need to go to bed
but I don’t want to wake up to 1000 more comments I’ll have to Z thru.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:01 AM CST
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But I care about what you all have to say.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:03 AM CST
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Stay up until 1am CST
SBN’s undergoing maintenance then, so there’s kind of an endgame in sight.
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Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST
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Thank god.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 12:06 AM CST
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1000 MY hate posts
yeah, you don’t want to miss that.
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by SteveP on
Jan 12, 2009 12:09 AM CST
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Toronto
would we want any Scott Rolen action?
Bobby Jindal '12
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Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST
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Now THERE'S a guy I want no part of.
He has been a completely different, terrible player since shoulder surgery.
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by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:03 AM CST
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Rolen...
Scott Rolen: 3.2 WAR in 2008
Michael Young: 1.7 WAR in 2008.
Rolen’s a much better player who will cost less next year and is only inked through 2010. He’s 2 years older than Young, but there’s no question at all who I’d rather have on my team. Rolen isn’t a star anymore, but he’s still a legitimately good player capable of earning his contract. Young is a role player making All Star money.
by slamcactus on
Jan 12, 2009 12:12 AM CST
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only 2 years older...
than Michael Young and still above average with the glove and bat.
He wouldn’t be my first target, but Scott Rolen is still a good player and is a great bet to earn his contract next year.
If you think Scott Rolen is washed up you’re underrating defense and on-base ability and overrating home runs.
by slamcactus on
Jan 12, 2009 12:18 AM CST
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what happened to going young and staying with your farm?
i hate free agent signings over 30 years old!
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:19 AM CST
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You probably need to add a caveat to that.
Something, maybe, like “I hate long-term free agent signings over 30 years old.”
And even then, that’s an awful broad brush.
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by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:20 AM CST
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It's not a FA Signing
I’m for Rolen if we can’t find much else.
by Andy Seiler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:20 AM CST
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screw rolen
go with metcalf, the guy can do it if you just give the guy a shot
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:21 AM CST
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Uh...
Metcalf now has 217 major league at bats to his name. He’s been given a decent chance.
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by rangers85 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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let the guy play every day for a few months…
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:23 AM CST
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At least Botts crushed in the minors.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 3:15 AM CST
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No he can't.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
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ide go with ensberg over rolen
but i say metcalf still
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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The world happened, dude.
Time to get the with the fucking program. Why don’t you hop on board and come on in for the big win?
by brettgardner on
Jan 12, 2009 12:21 AM CST
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so there are movies made after 1970 that you like?
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:25 AM CST
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I didn't expect dogpiling from you.
I’ll be crying myself to sleep tonight.
by brettgardner on
Jan 12, 2009 12:26 AM CST
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Texas...
doesn’t have a 3B anywhere near contributing to the major league roster. A guy who wouldn’t block anyone and doesn’t require more than a 2-year commitment isn’t inconsistent with a rebuilding squad. He’s also a trade target who likely wouldn’t be that expensive, not a free agent signing.
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Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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i might have missed something a long while back but
why can’t we stick blalock or davis their for now, davis wasn’t terrible when he played their for a short while last year. Im just saying is all
G4L
by No More Gingercide on
Jan 12, 2009 12:25 AM CST
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Blalock
His shoulder can’t hold up at third anymore from what all reports say these days.
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Jan 12, 2009 12:26 AM CST
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Davis actually was pretty terrible there.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 3:16 AM CST
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If MY is traded...
I want a 3B and Major League ready pitcher in return…Texas will probably eat 7-10 mil of his salary.
by rangersfan06 on
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Keep dreaming.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
by coolaid on
Jan 12, 2009 12:04 AM CST
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Great player, he's worth at least a pitcher.
…sign a 3B
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Great player, he’s worth at least a pitcher.
Not with that contract.
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by coolaid on
Jan 12, 2009 12:06 AM CST
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Easier said then done.
"that’s like saying because i wear a hat it keeps aliens away, just because since i’ve worn the hat aliens have never come and anally probed me." -rentz
by coolaid on
Jan 12, 2009 12:08 AM CST
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Yes...
It’s hard to convince a team to take an expensive shortstop who can’t play the position well and refuses to move anywhere else on the diamond. MY may return a grade B prospect if the Rangers eat more than half of his salary. He’s just not valuable on the trade market.
by slamcactus on
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If Young moved to 3b
He’d never make an all star game again. At shortstop in the AL, he has a shot.
by cstorm15 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:04 AM CST
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Oooh...
that is more important than championships. Sorry JD, you forgot the all-star games.
by JBImaknee on
Jan 12, 2009 12:04 AM CST
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How many MVP votes does he have?
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on
Jan 12, 2009 12:27 AM CST
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He finished 8th, 11th, and 30th
from 04-06… zero 1st place votes though.
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‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
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Jan 12, 2009 12:30 AM CST
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So he sucks.
Got it.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
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Jan 12, 2009 12:31 AM CST
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Speaking of which... Isn't Eckstein still available?
He’d look oh so good manning the shit out of the hot corner in Ranger blue and white and red.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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Poor Elvus Andrus
now he’s going to have the DVDesque pressure on him to do well…and quick.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on
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So if Young is shipped off
Do i still refer to him as the Face?
G4L
by No More Gingercide on
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Call him a different F-Face.
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Wow.
I hadn’t thought of that. It’s kind of like when a girl tells you that she turned down the opportunity to go out with friends to let you take her out on a date…that better be a goddamn good date.
The bar’s been raised.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
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fortunately for him
all he has to do is hit for average. no OBP, no power, whatever.. his .285 with rangey defense and he can get by.
of course, he might come in and hit .225..
the preceding post was a great success.
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Andrus
I especially hope they keep him in AAA all season now. He doesn’t need to get killed by the media trying to replace Young as a 20-year old.
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And Andrus isn't good enough
to handle the position in The Show.
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by Josey Wales on
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wrong again dumbass
Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade
by ab03 on
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You really just don't stop, do you?
Do you have an “off” button?
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So
we just sign a 1-year stopgap FA like Juan Uribe and let Andrus start the year in OKC to hone his stuff.
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by Rangerchick on
Jan 12, 2009 12:10 AM CST
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That's good
2 out of 3 have turned out great.
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-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:34 AM CST
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56 minutes
till the blackout of chaos.
or everyone just goes to sleep.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on
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screw sleep!
I have nothing to do tomorrow
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:05 AM CST
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Piece of shit
5:08pm here in Sydney. I’ve got hours to dwell on all this.
by jonthefon on
Jan 12, 2009 12:08 AM CST
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I get my wisdom teeth taken out tomorrow.
Really looking forward to them knocking me out.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. 45 given up in the 1st quarter. Wow. But still we're better than Washington! Oh and, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-10 baby!
by sprite on
Jan 12, 2009 12:11 AM CST
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Come on pussy.
You can take it awake.
by brettgardner on
Jan 12, 2009 12:11 AM CST
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lol
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 12:12 AM CST
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Sleep!
That’s where I’m a Viking!
by Adam J. Morris on
Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST
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In a strange, bittersweet moment like this...
…I needed some Ralph Wiggum.
Rec’d.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST
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I love Ralph.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST
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Will you open my milk
mommy!
Gerald Laird: One Man, 5 Scoops.
by Maximilian on
Jan 12, 2009 12:16 AM CST
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hahah.
I love sleeping,…I’ll do it for awhile once I do go to bed. but I’m still clicking!
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST
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ultimatum to move to 3rd
Who’s lying, MY or Nolan Ryan?
by SanDiegoKev on
Jan 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST
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I'll give you a hint.
It ain’t Nolan.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:08 AM CST
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Noway it was Nolan
Nolan reminds me of Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino, just tells you/us like it is
G4L
by No More Gingercide on
Jan 12, 2009 12:10 AM CST
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How dare you?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"You're gonna regret this the rest of your life. Both seconds of it." -Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan, A.K.A, "The Demolition Man", right before he beats a guy to death with a stick.
by thedirkatron on
Jan 12, 2009 12:12 AM CST
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Most of the people in here
also don’t like to be told the way that it is.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:12 AM CST
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what way is it?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:13 AM CST
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Oh Jesus, don't do that.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:14 AM CST
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It would've happened on its own.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 12:15 AM CST
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Is that ...
Wait a minute …
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on
Jan 12, 2009 12:32 AM CST
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If you figure it out
There’s a tiny giggle in it for you.
by brettgardner on
Jan 12, 2009 12:34 AM CST
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Bruce Hornsby anyone?
"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004
by Agreen07 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:35 AM CST
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Diggler,
The truth.
This is all about Young’s contract, the Rangers wanting to get out from under it and has nothing to do with JD wanting “to get all our championship caliber players together.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on
Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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Glad you have all the inside info
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on
Jan 12, 2009 7:26 AM CST
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I can see Nolan
talking out of a clinched mouth, telling Michael “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”
Mass X Acceleration = Force
by SteveP on
Jan 12, 2009 12:15 AM CST
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GET OFF MY LAWN!
Damn kids.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
by rangers85 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:16 AM CST
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Then they have no choice
They have to trade him, he’s calling Ryan a lier.
by SanDiegoKev on
Jan 12, 2009 12:13 AM CST
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JD
thinks they can talk him into this…YEA right. I sure would like to see him stay. But I bet he’s gone..
by rangersfan06 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:13 AM CST
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I think as with all things it is spin on both sides
The Rangers probably told Young that sometime in the next 2 years they may decide to make Andrus their starting SS. So they gave him the team-preferred option of learning 3b now, when the team a> wasn’t as competitive, so they could accept a learning curve, b> could get a stop-gap SS easier than a stop-gap 3b, and c> allow for him to be the one who made the decision, as opposed to him being forced out by a rookie.
Young read that as “Move now, or move later, but either way you are moving”
Nolan spins that as “You have a choice this year, and we won’t force you either way”
Both right.
by JBImaknee on
Jan 12, 2009 12:16 AM CST
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I never thought i would ever say this but
i think as of now i like TO more than Michael Young, are these the feelings i should be having?
G4L
by No More Gingercide on
Jan 12, 2009 12:15 AM CST
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Nobody knows how to feel right now.
It’s like Jesus came down from heaven and shot Santa Claus.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:17 AM CST
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BINGO!
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
by rangers85 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:18 AM CST
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Rec.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST
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That is quite possibly the weirdest statement I have ever read...
…but it kind of make sense in a “crazy like a fox” sort of way.
Reading another 500 pro-trade comments should make me feel better…so get to work LSB!
by GhettoBear04 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:26 AM CST
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ridiculous.
Mass X Acceleration = Force
by SteveP on
Jan 12, 2009 12:17 AM CST
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Amazing how everyone comes out of the woodwork at times like this.
"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch
by ghtd36 on
Jan 12, 2009 12:17 AM CST
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