The drug was not meant to be anabolic, but to disguise the effect of anabolic drugs like the Clear from testers.

Does this mean the only reason to take the Clear is to mask the use of anabolic steroids?

is there a lawsuit somewhere in here for defamation of character or something? Bonds lost so much potential income and his legacy is so tarnished. If he never actually cheated (I think he took other steroids) that really sucks for him.

JD, get on this. I want him as our starting DH.

I know he’s a jerk, Jeff Pearlman’s book made that perfectly clear. But the witchhunt on him was ridiculous. And this probably won’t help him, once your name is tarnished, that’s what people think of with him. Like a lawyer making a comment he knows the judge is gonna strike. It’s still in the jury’s head.

brettgardner right?

that it doesn’t mean he’s “not a cheater.” After all, I doubt there’s an MLB rule against murdering a member of an opposing team, but obviously that would still be cheating.

As for the criminal aspect of it, I think all along they were pursuing the perjury angle, weren’t they? Although, I wonder to what extent you would have to alter a chemical, say, meth, for it to no longer be covered under federal drug scheduling.

It’s like me saying that at the time I strapped those three orphan babies to my homemade rocket and blasted them off into space, “spacing” people wasn’t specifically illegal in the U.S.A, so I didn’t really break any laws.

It doesn’t matter that that specific from of killing wasn’t illegal, I still killled, so I’m still a killer.

If Bonds can use this info to claim he didn’t lie to a grand jury or to not have his baseball records taken away from him, then fine. Good for him, I guess.

But he’s still a fucking cheater.

I don’t how that’s even up for debate.

Even if he used steroids…so what? Baseball players have been using performance enhancers since the 50s and guys like Roger Maris, Nolan Ryan, Hank Aaron, etc. have just as much circumstantial evidence against them as Bonds.

Maris of course had the famous 61 home run season where he was considerably larger coming into camp to the surprise of his team, where he struggled with mood swings and loss of hair and had an amazing boost in performance that was never replicated.

Ryan has ties to the very open steroid abuser Tom House, who claims to have used steroids prolifically in the 70s and claims that most pitchers at the time were users. Ryan had an abnormal late career rebirth in performance that just happened to occur when Tom House became his pitching coach. He did this as a power pitcher for whom late career rebirths are even more rare due to wear and tear.

In his biography, Hank Aaron claims that there was a season where he wouldn’t have made it through without greenies…if that’s not a performance enhancer (in the sense of enabling him to perform when he couldn’t have performed without them) then I don’t know what a performance enhancer is.

Get my point? It’s all speculative. We can look at every player from the 90s with a suspicious eye, but the reality is that performance enhancers are nothing new and that many of our most revered players from previous decades are probably just as guilty in this regard. So let’s not villainize Bonds (who may not even be guilty) for crimes that have been rampant for decades.

BONDS — IT’S ALIVE.

somebody needs to tell his cranium.

I don’t see how some can be for Bonds and Sosa getting in the hall and not for McGwire. You usually put your best players of an era. The steroid era had pitchers and hitters using performance enhancing drugs and I don’t think you can differentiate between 1 player or another.

Clemens, Sosa, McGwire, Bonds either all get in the hall or none get in.

and, I do think they all used a steroid, but it wasn’t against the rules of baseball at the time is a cop out. I say none of them should make it.

that if he was using “the cream” to cover up his use of “the clear,” then he knew he was doing something wrong. Seems like if he felt he were legal, he wouldn’t have seen a need to cover up his use of the clear.

My problem with Bonds isn’t that he used steroids. So did a ton of guys. Using or not using PEDs and whether you agree with it or whatnot is a personal choice, so whatever. Eliminate all that right or wrong argument.

My problem with Bonds is that he was such an arrogant prick for so long about it. He would say stuff like he is too good to have to use steroids, then accuse the media who asked him about it of being racist. Bonds was using, the media all knew it, and asking him about it isn’t racist. That’s my problem with Barry Bonds. As far as I’m concerned, the guy can go fuck himself and I never want him playing for the Rangers.