Thursday Morning
by Brett Perryman on Jan 15, 2009 7:58 AM CST
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PrintFirst off, 30 days until pitchers and catchers report, how about that?
The Michael Young debate has died down quite a bit, though Randy Galloway found some time to go off on a timely and surprising diatribe on Jon Daniels. To me, Galloway is basically a caricature of a parody of a writer at this point.
There is some more talk about a salary cap from the same owners who grumbled over the Yankees' spending earlier in the winter.
And if you bought a seat bond when the Ballpark opened, you finally get your money back.
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Great....(sigh)
A salary cap couldn’t come at a better time than with the Rangers beginning to have a bunch of potential “stars” coming through the system. The effective date might be just in time to screw the opportunity for the Rangers to spend to keep the players they have put together to be the core of the franchise going forward.
I don’t believe a salary cap will happen that will hinder the Rangers. I believe any cap that gets implemented will be way above what the Rangers plan on spending in any given year.
However, if it can go wrong for the Rangers, …..well, let’s just say that the breaks don’t usually fall in their favor.
I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.
If I were in the MLBPA
there is absolutely no way I’d agree to a salary cap unless MLB teams pool al their local media revenue and merchandising revenue.
Why shouldn’t the Yankees outspend all other teams if their revenue sources are deeper than other teams?
Get off my lawn.
Salary Caps
As retarded as I think the NBA salary cap is, a system like that would work much better in the MLB than the NFL type system.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Hmmm... What's wrong with the NBA cap? I always thought it was pretty brilliant.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
Too complicated
I always hated the whole max contracts, etc stuff. Whats worse is the way they have to do trades.
What i DO like is that there is a luxury tax that has to be paid for going over the cap. So they don’t prevent a team from having a high payroll (acquired via trade or re-sign) but they do have a penalty.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
It's not that complicated. Certainly no more complicated than the NFL system.
And max contracts? What’s wrong with them?
Basically I like the NBA system because it helps teams keep their own players and rewards teams who scout and draft well.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
What bothers me most I think
is the way it makes teams come up with trade filler because of contract amounts.
The nfl system seems more straight forward to me (until you get into signing bonus’s )
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I think the current MLB system
seems to reward teams who have good farms and use some discrimination in free agents. Most of the Free Agent pool hasn’t exactly been tremendously useful to the teams that sign them. I really don’t think Free Agent Salaries are particularly unbalancing.
The Yankees had their run almost as much because of their strong mid ’90s farm system as any Free Agent acquisition. A good minor league farm system can pay dividends a decade later.
Get off my lawn.
This.
This is it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
These are my thoughts
I like the challenges inherent in the MLB system at present. I would, however, like to see some kind of floor or some kind of mechanism that ensures teams like Florida are using their revenue sharing to improve the quality of the product on the field. Perhaps a percentage of revenue sharing that must go towards players salaries and another percentage that goes towards player development, draft signings, etc.
That would be one easy way to improve the draft. If you make a team spend money on draft signings, you won’t have top players falling to the middle or end of the first round.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I would agree with a floor for the sharing program as well.
Teams like Florida and the old Tampa essentially just said F-U and kept quite a bit of cash. Very disappointing to see that happen.
Agree
I have no problems with the Yankees pissing away their money to field an average team. There’s plenty of evidence to show that FA shopping spree is not the way to win titles. It’s teams like the Marlins that sit on the revenue sharing that really drive me crazy.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
Zero Evidence
However, there is zero evidence that having more money is a hindrance.
Certianly being smart is the most important item. Making smart use of lots of money is far more beneficial than making smart use of less money. Move one step from the Yanks to the Red Sox. There’s plenty of evidence there for my statement.
Having said that I don’t see how a salary cap in baseball could work. I’d be in support of a good one, but I doubt a good one could be agreed upon.
One major obstackel is the non-transparent presence of broadcast companies and team ownership. Yes Network and many others just have to agree to a below market payment to the team to hide tons of actual revenue.
the thing I hate about the NBA system
is that it seems to make trading so difficult. Granted, I don’t follow basketball real closely, but every time I hear about trades in that league, it seems like teams are having to stack players into deals for reasons other than an equitable talent exchange. And for some reason that I don’t understand, and haven’t tried to, worthless players are somehow valuable if they are extremely overpaid and have expiring contracts.
I love following the trades in baseball, and I’d hate to see that screwed up.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I agree.
Personally I have no real problem with our current situation.
It creates an interesting landscape, as opposed to the tedious vanilla parity of, say, the NFL.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
It’s what makes baseball unique. Cookie cutter franchise’s is not nearly as interesting.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Salary Caps?
socialism in sports, thats the american way.
europe has socialist governments and free market economy in sports, USA has free market economy and socialist sports….
FREEDOM!!!
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
As long as it's a soft cap it'd help us quit a bit, actually.
Soft caps like the NBA’s allow teams to exceed the cap, but only to resign their own players.
The NBA’s cap also gives teams an advantage in holding onto their own players by allowing the team controlling a player to offer one more year and more money per season than any other team is allowed to offer.
That sort of cap would really, really help a team like the Rangers.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
That is an excellent point
I can’t remember how frequently I’ve heard the lament of “poor won’t even have a chance to compete with the Yankees/Red Sox”
It would be nice to give small-market teams an advantage in some sense.
I'm not sure how much better the Yankees
are going to be this upcoming year than they were last year.
That’s a very old team and all they’ve done is basically replace Giambi, Mussina and Pettitte with younger versions.
If things work out I could see 95 wins but old teams typically don’t have quantum leaps of improvement.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
They also won 89 games last year
So there is room for improvement, but they were pretty good last year and a few extra wins against Boston last year and they are your wild card winners
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Small-Market Teams
They ought to just go-out-of business.
by SanDiegoKev on Jan 15, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
The MLBPA is stronger than any other union.
So having a max year/max dollar system like the NBA’s soft cap system isn’t really possible.
by Andy Seiler on Jan 15, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Salary Cap
Any sort of salary cap system would have to be completely unique to MLB. And it would require vast restructuring of revenue streams within the league, meaning it’s not going to happen anytime soon, because the MLBPA is much stronger than any other union in pro sports. All caps are based on players getting percentages of revenue, and in all the existing leagues that use caps, the players get a smaller percentage of revenue than MLB players do as far as percentage of revenue. So unless you’re looking at some huge concessions in other areas, a salary cap in baseball is probably at least 3-5 CBAs away.
The most unique situation would involve the minor league system. In the other leagues, excluding the NFL (which will change this in the next CBA most likely), the guaranteed contract slotting systems are the most efficient ways to make the drafts equitable. You really can’t do that as much in the MLB, as there’s the major difference of being able to draft players that won’t sign. Automatic slotting would mean a huge, huge, huge disadvantage for players compared to the current draft system, and more concessions would have to be made.
The more likely event is the addition of all international markets (excluding Japan) into the draft, rather than just the US and Canada. The next CBA will probably have some form of this.
by Andy Seiler on Jan 15, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
I never read galloway
Because i so disliked him on the radio. For whatever, reason, I read this one.
Horrible. Absolutely terrible. I can’t begin to count the contradictions on one hand.
All of this has been said before, but… instead of kinsler at 2nd and young at 3rd, he wants it vice versa because kinsler can hit more like a 3rd basemen. If the same two players are going to be at two positions, the offensive output is going to be the same regardless. So you obviously choose based on defense. Young’s strength is his arm – wasted at 2nd. Kinsler’s strength is his range – wasted at 3rd. And yes, you’ve moved 2 players instead of 1. What a wonderful solution.
Anyway, 30 days till spring training and the WBC will get going for some more live games.. the final free agents have to sign pretty quick now.. ive got the mlb network… if the rangers were doing anything other than creating player drama this would be a pretty exciting ramp up to the season.
the preceding post was a great success.
It's best to ignore galloway instead of rationalize it
otherwise you’ll just drive yourself insane.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
ignore
If everybody would stop listening to him on the radio and read what he write then he might be out of a job.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Galloway
I found this part of his column hilarious:
"In mid-December, Daniels asked Young for a lunch meeting. He brings along manager Ron Washington for silent support, which was a huge mistake (more on that later). Over cheeseburgers, however, Daniels suddenly served up his knuckle sandwich.
You will leave shortstop. You will move to third base. It’s not a request, it’s a direct order. I am Jon Boy of Colgate. I have spoken."
Note to Galloway: If you’re going to make fun of someone for being an egghead, it’s probably a good idea to make sure you picked the RIGHT FREAKING SCHOOL to make fun of. Daniels graduated from Cornell, not Colgate.
Galloway = FAIL
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jan 15, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Galloway is so past his prime
it is sad. In two years, DFW Old Media is going to wish they had a lot more competence covering the Rangers.
If the Old Media is even still around then…
Hey, there's no time for fact checking
when you’re running late for the early bird special at IHOP
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
I went to IHOP today
It was pretty good.
by Joey Matschulat on Jan 15, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
I've been thinking about this...
but a few players named Boggs, Lansford, and Molitor didn’t really hit like third basemen either, even though they were valuable to their teams, and actually played at third base.
Oops! I left the name Dorn off that list also.
I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.
I guess galloway didn't read those national reports of people saying there's no way in hell they'd take on that contract. Liars liars everywhere apparently.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
It's pretty OT...
but is anyone else excited about this? I know there have been games like Baseball Mogul (which i’ve owned before)… but I should get a solid 1-2 months of fun out of this one.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
Interesting
first i’ve heard of this. It looks like it could be really really cheesy though.
I’ll get it if it isn’t the usual 60bucks
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I'm pretty sure
its only going to be $40. And you can always find ways to demo it on your PC first.
Did you ever play NFL Head Coach? This has to be at least as good as that, if not better.
I’m just interested in the depth of it. And really curious if they actually worked some real baseball transaction rules into it (arbitration, waivers, DFA). I’ve played various games where they give you control of the minors, but there have never been restrictions on moving players around.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
NFL Head Coach
I played it briefly and didn’t really like it that much. It was so long ago I really don’t remember what I didn’t like.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Try Out of the Park Baseball
New version will be coming out before the season starts. Waivers, DFA, 40-man rosters, full minor leagues (excluding the DSL and VSL), scouting, etc.
by Andy Seiler on Jan 15, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
the early reviews have been quite bad
but its such a niche product that i can see it being pretty good at what it is and get bad reviews.
ill rent it.
the preceding post was a great success.
I already invoked NFL Head Coach
in my other response. Part of the problem with that game was that it was really overbearing… you really had to do way too much, and make way too many decisions. If they actually put that kind of detail into this game, which would probably turn off the average fan that doesn’t really get the details, and I could see it getting bad reviews. And maybe that’s what you meant. In short, I agree.
I haven’t really read any detailed reviews yet though.
"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2
NFL Head Coach
I bought the game the first time it came out- it had a lot of promise, but like you said, too much of the game bogged down in things like practice and the seemingly endless strings of meetings. I did love the draft, though- Mel Kiper commenting on every pick, and an actual “war room” where you and your scouting director could play Jerry Jones and spend the whole draft trading up and down.
Football Manager (Worldwide Soccer Manager here in the U.S.) is probably the gold standard of management sims. I play the absolute shit out of that game. I’ve heard their baseball game (Out of the Park) is also very good.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
FM
Ridiculously addictive and will cloud your judgement of any young soccer player.
ROFL
so true. FM or WSM is i good way to get into the sport and understand the rules.
their Baseball Sim, Out of the Park Baseball is crazy as hell too. You can be a GM for a Cuban League team if you want to.
very detailed, and OOTP was the first place i absolutely had to have Elvis Andrus on my team…
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
FM
Agreed. I’ve run three teams on FM08, and each of them was a very different experience. I want to get FM09, but my computer can’t handle the graphics, so I’m hoping to get a new machine when I get my income tax refund…
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
FM
Is that the same game that was available on commodore 64/128 back in the late 80s? I loved that game then, haven’t played it since.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
FM
I think it is, though I believe it had a different title then. I just started playing last year.
It’s almost obscene how realistic the game is- I’ve heard that several real-life clubs use it to scout players.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
I'll play the shit out of that.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I like Mogul and OOTP
Mogul is great for its relative simplicity, good for quick play. OOTP requires a bigger time investment, to me, but has a lot more detail.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
OOTP
The better game by far. Most realistic thing you can find to being a GM.
by Andy Seiler on Jan 15, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Galloway
wants to get people riled up. That is his own personal stated goal. The problem is, his comments are so contradictory and ridiculous that not many people care anymore. I read his column at the most once every 2 weeks.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 15, 2009 8:41 AM CST reply actions
Yeah, that
Randy Galloway is a bad, bad man.
I guess this story takes the starch out any thoughts that Young’s camp leaked JD’s demand.
I did like, “Yeah, and John Danks isn’t ready to pitch in the major leagues.”
Ouch.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
lol
Because a Galloway article is hard evidence that JD leaked this for PR reasons…
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
It appears that neither the Rangers nor
Michael Young leaked the story.
It was broken by Rosenthal who found out JD was directly calling other teams seeing what he could get for Young in a trade.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Makes sense
And in a way, I’m glad to hear that (the what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas sort of glad)
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jan 15, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Except that Rosenthal said he didn't publish his peice till he could confirm it with someone close to the situation according to Rosenthal's interview on Ben and Skin
How would another team know that Young wants to be trade because he doesn’t want to be moved off of SS becasue of Andrus?
All Rosenthal should be able to gleam is that Texas is looking to deal Young not…. WHY.
It was told to Rosenthal. More likely Young’s camp told him instead of just giving a" no comment".
You can't blame on it Young or his camp
just like I can’t blame it on the Rangers.
That said, having Ranger fans know that Michael Young said he wasn’t moving to 3B is not something that benefitted Young and it did help give the Ranger FO pr cover.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
unless MY has delusions of grandeur
and thought the masses you take a run at JD and the org.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
The party
that benefitted in this coming out was the FO of the Texas Rangers.
If you don’t think so, read the opinions on Lone Star Ball.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I've always tried to take guys like Galloway with a grain of salt.
Rest assured, Galloway is very, very good at what he does. Excellent, even. That’s how he has been able to be a major figure in the DFW media for so long.
But if you think his job is “in-depth analysis” and “realistic commentary based on fact,” rather than riling people up and promoting/advancing stereotypes, you’re sorely, sorely mistaken.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
Galloway's job is to be inflammatory.
Much of the time, at the expense of facts and the truth, but he’s not a reporter, he’s a columnist. He does what he is supposed to do: write opinions, and he does what he wants: riles people up. I can’t really fault him for it, but since I think he’s such a dumbass I’m not going to start reading him or anything.
So do we toss away
the entire column because he said JD went to Colgate instead of Cornell? How important is that to the story and should it invalidate everything else that was written?
What I took out of this column is that the Rangers were actively trying to deal Young and have been doing so since the Winter Meetings.
JD was calling other clubs directly trying to get something for Young, Rosenthal caught him with his hands in the cookie jar and broke the story.
Then we get all this backpedaling from the Rangers about how they want Michael Young on the team and they’re not looking to trade him because of his contract blah, blah, blah.
But this whole conspiracy theory about the Rangers telling Young he was going to play 3B knowing it would piss him off and seek a trade (still giving the Rangers pr cover because the highly paid Young wouldn’t do what he was told) is completely absurd.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Galloway
Here’s the problem with Galloway- it’s the same issue as with Bill Plaschke and Paul DePodesta. Galloway has an issue with Daniels, and I suspect it’s got more to do with JD not paying his perceived dues (in Galloway’s eyes) before becoming GM, than anything Daniels has actually done. Hence the “Jon Boy” crap that permeates every column.
The Colgate/Cornell thing? It’s not that big a deal, but part of being taken seriously as a writer is getting your facts straight. I’m a writer, and when I read something another person has written, and find factual errors, it makes me wonder about that person’s competence. Especially when they work for a major newspaper, which should have fact-checkers to catch that sort of thing. Maybe it’s just me.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Galloway doesn't let a silly thing like facts get in the way.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Problem isn't that he made an error...
The problem is that he is in such a hurry to make a disparaging remark that he makes that mistake.To him, the shot is more important than the facts.
I think the bigger problem
is he doesn’t care if things are factual or not as long as his point is made in extreme fashion
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Being a snooty, 'outspoken' sportscaster is the 'hip' thing right now.
The appeal is all about looking professional while still being able to retain the rank of asshole.
bking, were there any other factual
errors that we should be aware of in Galloway’s column?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Why does that matter?
My point is still valid – he made a silly error in a rush to take a shot. To me, it shows his priorities. However, his point about putting Wash in a bad position was a good observation that no one has mentioned.
Having Wash there
and acting like a potted plant probably didn’t help.
I also believe that JD has no respect in the room (Mench confirmed that on Tuesday) and telling Young that he was going to be replaced by somebody not ready didn’t help matters at all.
Young knows this whole thing is bullshit, is tired of amateur management and the small market payroll shenanigans. He wants out.
Who could blame him?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Mench hasn't been in the Major League locker room
in quite a while and I doubt he has even talked with more than 2-3 guys in the current locker room. So Mench didn’t confirm your opinion on Tuesday, he simply stated the same opinion. Like you though, he presents it as fact when it really isn’t.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
No, Mench was with the Rangers last
March and he also mentioned how he is still good friends with Michael Young.
Face it, JD is not respected by the room.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Who cares
You don’t have to respect your boss, you just do your job and do what they ask.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Somebody cares
I think the reputation of the Gm does matter to free agent players when deciding where they might go, besides the amount of money offered. Will the GM build a Winner?
So, it does matter. A disrespected GM is not going to sign many free agents at market rates.
He was there as an
NRI who JD later chose to pawn off on Toronto for some money. He wasn’t spending much time with the guys in the current locker room.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
How the hell do you know what Mench
was doing and who he was talking to last March?
I was in Surprise last year and Mench was playing with other major leaguers.
JD is not respected in the room and Mench confirmed it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
How do you know half the shit you spew?
Name the Major League players Mench was playing with who are still in the locker room now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Michael Young
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
RC -
I’m sure that Galloway screwing up Colgate/Cornell is eating him up right now because that opens the door for anybody who wants to now say if he missed that little nugget, how many other facts did he miss?
Yes, Galloway missed this but so did his editor. It’s still not a crucial part of the story.
Galloway is just in ripping JD. Yeah, the system is primed with prospects but does that out weigh the fact that John Danks, Armando Galarraga and Chris Young should be a part of this pitching staff and that AG should have been playing 1B last year instead of Chris Bleeping Shelton? Does it excuse hiring and then extending the extremely dimwitted Ron Washington?
Plaschke was an idiot because DePodesta trading Loduca was the right move.
Galloway is very, very just in his criticisms of JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
What i took
Josey- “What I took out of this column is that the Rangers were actively trying to deal Young and have been doing so since the Winter Meetings.”
And what i took from your post is everything is a rumor until Galloway say it, and gets a few cheapshots in on JD at the same time..
It took you 3 days and Galloways confirmation to believe it?!?
"But with Tom Hicks squeezing his checkbook tighter than Tony Romo's grip on Jessica Simpson"- Jim Reeves on why Cruz will be the clean-up hitter in '09
But didn't MY request a trade???
So isn’t it logical that JD would be investigating this option? You really should keep Occam’s razor in mind and stop looking for the more convoluted answer that suits you. But you know that.
bking, I have to guess
but yes, MY requested a trade.
MY was also very adamant last season that he wasn’t ready to move to SS.
JD knew this and then told MY that a 20 year old who made 32 errors and had an OPS below .720 in AA was going to be the reason he was moving to 3B…you know, for the “good of the team.”
But yes, as has been pointed out, me thinking the Rangers would do this so Young would ask for a trade is completely absurd.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Errors
the big argument people make is the errors, but the fact is his amazing range increased the amount of balls he was able to get to thus increasing the amount of errors. It’s easy to not get errors when you can’t get to half the balls through your zone.
Is Andrus ML ready? No probably not quite yet, but I’d say he is already a better defender than young is.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jan 15, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I’d be very curious to see a detailed analysis of Young’s and Andrus’ defensive measurables (errors, range factor, etc). Then determine how many more balls over the course of a season Andrus would have reached with his increased range factor. I would be shocked if that number was not much higher than the difference in errors between the two.
Also, I would think a 10-20% reduction in expected errors would apply for Andrus simply from moving from the crappy minor league infields to the pristene MLB ones.
by Royal Swine on Jan 15, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
as for OPS
we shouldnt be comparing Young and Andrus OPS, since both would be in the lineup. I would think the diff between Andrus and Metcalf (who would be the one replaced) OPS is negligible.
by Royal Swine on Jan 15, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
the proper comp is what do you gain/lose with the glove and bat with a Young-Metcalf or an Andrus-Young SS-3B alignment. I think it’s a slight lean towards Metcalf with the bat and a slight lean towards Andrus with the glove for 2009. Every subsequent season the lean to Andrus becomes more pronounced.
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Just to add...
Andrus also needs to cut down on some mental mistakes, but I think that is something he is working on and comes with experience.
He tends to rely on his amazing range and skill to try and make risky plays that he probably shouldn’t, and makes some mental errors sometimes on simple plays.
But there is no denying the guys pure athletic ability to play the position at the major league level.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Except that Frisco doesn't have a crappy IF surface...
Nor do most of the Texas league fields.
From the few times I saw Andrus in Frisco
I don’t believe he made any errors, but I do remember him doing what Jason said in his report on him. Andrus was trying to make a play on each ball even when it was probably better to just hold onto it. His main problem is something that can be easily solved if he learns which plays he can and can’t make.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
One game in frisco he ranged all the way to the second baseman’s side of the bag and made an awesome grab of the ball on the run and then attempted to flip i from his glove (if i remember right it was from in his glove) over to vallejo to get the runner.
Had it worked it would have been one of the most awesome plays i’ve ever seen, but of course it failed.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Ian Kinsler made 33 errors in 2004
between Clinton & Frisco (20 in 71 games) as a SS.
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=7780
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
You never cease to amaze me
We read the same column, the same simple quasi-English sentences. We both took away that the Rangers were calling other teams. We both know that MY requested a trade.. Yet, somehow I get the idea that they were doing due diligence, both in honoring his wishes and in in planning for all contingencies. You decide that it’s concrete evidence that JD got “caught”.
Fact – it isn’t all that hard to understand that JD could be covering his bases AND planning on going into the season with MY at 3B. My way assumes that JD had learned a bit about doing the job. Your way assumes that Cornell degrees come in Hannah Montana trading card packs.
Cubs
The Cubs’ hands will be forced this spring on two young players who I find extremely interesting. CF Felix Pie and SS/UT Ronny Cedeno are both out of options and do not seem to have roles on the team. The Chicago Tribune believes both are being shopped. I know the Rangers seem set with Andrus and Borbon coming through the pipe, but I would still love to get these guys in our system somehow, especially Cedeno, who is an ideal UT guy in that he can play both middle infield positions and some OF and is considered a plus defender.
How is Cedeno's defense at SS?
Do you know? He may just be the perfect fit.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I have read conflicting reports
but this is from a scouting report I found online
Defense: This is Ronny’s bread and butter. Without question, Ronny has the best arm and glove in the Cubs’ system. He’s had an a major league shortstops’ glove since he was 16. One won’t see Cedeno diving too often, not because he’s lazy but because he covers amazing ground to both sides that he usually doesn’t need to layout to get to the ball. His presence to Ramirez’s left side will aid Aramis greatly, leaving him with a smaller zone that he has to cover.
In addition to Cedeno having a vacuum for a glove, he has a very strong and accurate arm. He can make plays in the hole and still the first baseman in the chest to get the speedest of runners. Not only does Ronny have gold glove caliber defense at shortstop he can play second very well and a little of third base as well. He’s the most defensively sound shortstop, but he’s probably the best defensive second baseman on the roster too. So in the event the Cubs do make a trade for another shortstop in the coming years, Ronny could easily slide over to play second.
I likey.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Where online?
FatChiCubsFan22’s personal blog, or a reputable site?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
I'd be happy with Cedeno at SS until Andrus is ready.
Then slot him into the middle infield utility role instead of Arias, unless Arias proves he has the arm strength for short.
by Andy Seiler on Jan 15, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Rich Hill
cubs are also out of options with him. would you be interested in making a trade for the guy. he had one really good year in chicago and last year had command issues.
Wait 'til the year after next
Done.
Byrd and a throw in for Hill & Cedeno. Is that fair value?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
that has the makings of an interesting deal
My friend the Cub fan is very worried about the CF situation, especially considering the poor OF options that will be in both corners. Byrd would seem to be very attractive to them. And if we could get a LH reclamation project and a stop gap defensive whiz SS, that might be worth it.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I thought they were just gonna use Fukudome in CF and be done with it?
Although I guess I just assumed that.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
But he's gonna suck there.
Don’t they need a back-up plan/defensive replacement?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I had Hill included
in my original post, but I really think he may be a lost cause. And he is out of options, so we would have to carry him. I would ask for Cedeno and Angel Guzman (coming off TJ, out of options, looked good in winter ball) or a kid who is no where near 40 eligible if they called about Byrd, who will be at least a type B FA at year’s end.
I don't like Hill too much either.
Could he be a LOOGY? It’ll never happen, I was just throwing it out there.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I wouldn't do it
Stick with Byrd, see what’s there around the deadline, and if nothing is good then just take the draft picks. Hill is junk and I’d rather go with Andrus if the other option is Cedeno.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
No to Hill
At least not for Marlon Byrd. Right now I am not trading Marlon Byrd for a one year stopgap rookie (or close to rookie)SS and a guy who I am forced to keep on my staff or lose to waivers.
Bringing in Rich Hill would most likely force either Matt Harrison or Eric Hurley to OKC. Because this club has shown full interest in keeping Feldman in the rotation and not putting him at long relief which is pretty much locked in for Nippert. You got, right now at least, Millwood and padilla locked in. Feldman (due to not having options) and then you’d have Hill (also no options) virtual locks. That would only leave one spot for either Hurley, Harrison, or BMac. Out of those three if they are all healthy BMac is the better of the three.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Galloway = troll
Lets treat him as such and make no comments about what he writes or says.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Seat Bonds
I actually just sent mine in for redemption yesterday. For a while over the last 15 years I used to grumble about how much money I had lost by not putting that money into hot internet stocks. At least over the second half of the 15 years zero percent interest hasn’t turned out all that bak although the tax on the imputed Original issue Discount (for you accounting geeks) has been an unpleasant reminder each year.
In a very real sense this marks the end of the beginning of the lifetime of the Ballpark presently known as Ranger’s Ballpark in Arlington. There is no getting around that the Ballpark is too hot in the middle of summer and that attendance would be better in those months if there was a way to cool things down. Although no announcement was made it appears that the Rangers studied the issue and determined, that retrofit ideas are impractical. Looking at the new (Jerry World) right down the block from the no longer quite so new only highlights these issues.
There is nothing for the Rangers to do but to live with it for a while, dong relatively small upgrades like improved scoreboards from time to time. Even Baseball execs know that you just can’t ask for a new park only 15 years after opening the last one. But just like the cookie cutter parks of the 60s and 70s have been replaced the Ballpark’s time will come and sooner than you might think.
I can't believe those bonds paid no interest...
what was the point of buying them again? First dibs at season tickets that you wanted?
options/stadium finance 101
Believe me I didn’t do it because I wanted to line the pockets of Rangers ownership. In order to have an “option” to purchase the best 10,000 or so seats in the stadium as season tickets you had to purchase these bonds. Right behind home plate first row was $5,000 per seat. Every five rows back or so they declined by $500 until the lowest bonds were $500 per seat and of course seats even further back required no bond purchase. (i’m leaving out a few unimportant details here). So, when you paid, say $3,000 × 4 seats you got a bond in the amount ot $12,000 and an “option” to purchase those 4 seats for the next 15 years. There were also some other benefits to bond holders like membership in a private club (the Diamond Club) which of course over the years as demand has waned has become none too private.
The biggest catch financially (other than the no interest thing generally) was that while you received no interest as far as you were concerned, for IRS purposes it was treated like buying a zero coupon bond and they imputed interest at around 7% or so so that you were deemed to have only paid, say, $4,000, for the four bonds the with the rest of the value of the $12,000 being ascribed to the value of the options. Knowing that they would be worth the full $12,000 by 2008 yit was possible to assign an increase in value to each year and in fact each of the last 15 years you got a statement saying how much your “original issue discount was” and you had to pay tax on that “phantom” interest each year. Not exactly a brilliant investing strategy, but when you read the outrageous fees being paid for personal seat licenses or the like at the new Cowboys stadium its fair to say that this was somewhere in the middle among financing arrangments for stadiums
It’s my personal belief that a law banning any public financing of stadiums for use by NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB teams would be a huge public benefit costing no one (except billionarire owners and multimillionare players) a cent, but that’s a whole different topic.
wow...
that is an insane tax loophole (I hope the IRS stooge who came up with that got a corner office).
I guess if you want the good seats though, you have little choice. Do your options on the seat remain with you in perpetuity now so long as you keep them?
that's what we are all assuming
Obviously the default assumption/policy for full season ticket holders for pretty much any major sport that I am aware including the Rangers back in Arlington Stadium is that you have the right to renew your season tickets for the same location for the following year and you have a right to purchase playoff tickets for that location, should your team ever make the playoffs (that of course being a major caveat in the case of the Rangers). With the expiration of the options we are back to that policy and absent a huge stadium upgrade (nine figures) where they are scrambling for payment sources I can’t imagine them coming back to the season ticket holders at this point to ask for additional payments for licenses or whatever they would call it above and beyond the price of the tickets themselves.
A/C ball
would be so awesome. Those summer day games are pretty rough.
by Royal Swine on Jan 15, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Tampa Bay Rays stadium idea
I hope this thing gets built one day.
It makes you wonder whether a retractable shade system might be feasable in the ballpark. It worked for the Roman Coliseum.
The more I think about it, the more I really like the idea of Coliseum style awnings…
In a strange, simplistic way...
…it reminds me of Kaufman Stadium, what with the limited seating in the outfield and the tall stands down the baselines.
And I adore Kaufman Stadium.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
It looks cool
But I don’t know if that’s a stadium I’d want the Rangers to get though. Its more like it would be cool to go to a game there a couple of times, but that’s it.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Well it wouldn't look like that here
I’m thinking similar to what the Romans actually did. Shades that could be retracted or extended over the playing surface:
Two hundred and forty mast corbels were positioned around the top of the attic. They originally supported a retractable awning, known as the velarium, that kept the sun and rain off spectators. This consisted of a canvas-covered, net-like structure made of ropes, with a hole in the center.1 It covered two-thirds of the arena, and sloped down towards the center to catch the wind and provide a breeze for the audience. Sailors, specially enlisted from the Roman naval headquarters at Misenum and housed in the nearby Castra Misenatium, were used to work the velarium.18
I couldn’t find any good pictures from a top view, but here’s a couple of pictures I found from a google search.
Interesting
and seemingly, adaptable to the ballpark in some fashion.
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That's a damn good point...
Why does the solution to the problem have to be high-tech? The awnings might be quite feasible.
It is striking
how the MY controversy has polarized Ranger fans into very distinct camps. The casual Nolan-lovin ones and the nerds who read a lot about baseball on the internets (me.) It’s classic.
"Never go with a hippie to a second location."
I love Nolan
and read a lot about baseball on the internets.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Neither
But I’m with JD on this.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The casual Nolan-lovin ones should know
that Nolan is part of management and is part of the decision to move MY
Wait 'til the year after next
+1
And I think it’s pretty clear who the bad guy is on this one.
I’ll give you a hint: He’s a gigantic douche.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Nolan is in bed
with JD on this one.
Those of us who genuflect when his name is mentioned have been pissed at him ever since he decided to bring both JD & Washington back this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
I've not read every post
about this subject, and I feel that one aspect has not really been discussed.
Since MY’s All-Star status is predicated on his producing good numbers for the middle IF, I think that he came to the realization that his All-Star days are probably finished if he moves to 3B. It seems out of character for him to get hung up on such a personal thing, but its the explanation for his behavior that makes makes more sense.
MY's All Star Selections
Many of the years have been Manager selections or player vote. Jeter always wins the popular vote at SS, so I’m not sure that logic as to why he’s pissed really applies.
I'm not talking about the fan voting, but the actual
reasoning that the players, managers, etc use when picking him for the ASG. His numbers as a middle IF put him in the conversation, but his numbers at 3B will leave only his personal popularity with them as a factor.
Or atleast people who became GMs at 28 years old
Age has been Galloway’s #1 issue with Daniels since the day he was hired.
Bad trades, bad free agent signings,
bad managerial hirings and complete incompetence have been Galloway’s number one issue with JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
I don't read any of Galloway's stuff but
did he ever weigh in on the good trades (Teix, Lofton, etc), good FA signings (Gagne, Lofton), and incomplete incompetence with JD.
I’m with you on the bad managerial hirings.
Exactly.
His entire argument against Daniels is based on ageism. Yes, Daniels has made his share of boneheaded moves, but he’s also made his share of excellent moves that have helped this organization have a true direction for the first time since the Oates days.
Calling him “Jon Boy” is simply a way of saying he’s inexperienced and thus must be considered a failure, without saying as much.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
Well, I'd say it's more like
calling him a name is much easier than actually thinking and carefully evaluating any given situation.
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I think
the last thing Galloway thought through and carefully evaluated was that he could still get paid without thinking or carefully evaluating anything.
Well
Either that, or whether his next drink was going to be a double shot of scotch or bourbon…
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
RC, what problems do you have with
the column besides the Colgate/Cornell misstep?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Galloway
Well, the Kinsler to third or left field issue, for one, but that one’s been discussed already.
It’s also that when I read Galloway on the Rangers, his main agenda always seems to be “how can I spin this to portray Daniels in the worst possible light?” He didn’t need to mention the Danks deal, or take shots at Daniels’ age or education. None of those are in the least bit relevant to the discussion of Michael Young. They’re just cheap attempts to score points with his readers.
Do I think Daniels is perfect? Not by a long shot. I hated the Young/Gonzalez deal, and as I said yesterday, I’m not a big believer in Washington either. But none of this has to do with the Michael Young situation. I’d rather Galloway just stick to the facts at hand, and discuss those. But I suppose that since he’s a columnist, rather than a reporter, he’s going to write with his agenda front-and-center, because he knows it stirs up the reading public.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Keep arguing logically with JW.
You’ll get through to him soon, I can feel it!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Where is the JD/Young linkage?
JD gave Young a 5 year $ 80 million extension (still owed $ 62 million) while knowing his team was going to have one of the smallest payrolls in all of MLB and that Young would be 32 years old (and in decline) when that deal kicked in.
How unspeakably stupid is that?!?!
JD enters this off-season and (doh!) suddenly realizes he has no money to spend to fix the pitching staff he built that gave up 967 runs last year so what can he do?
Goes to Young and tells him he’s moving to 3B (when he knows how Young feels about this) for a prospect who is very clearly not ready for the bigs.
It was pertinient to mention the Danks deal because it illustrates what little respect Young (and others in the room) have for JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Galloway
“It was pertinient to mention the Danks deal because it illustrates what little respect Young (and others in the room) have for JD.”
Change “Young” to “Galloway” and I think you’re dead-on.
I just don’t see Young being the type to still mope over the Danks deal two years after the fact.
And I also don’t see what Daniels’ age or intellectual background has to do with his competence (or lack thereof) as a GM. Like I said above, it’s an easy shot for Galloway to take, especially here in DFW, where fancified-book-learnin’ is for sissies, and young punks who don’t know their place get a smack in the jaw for their trouble.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
FYI
That last sentence was meant partly in jest, but I think it’s a fair reflection of Galloway’s worldview, or at least the one that comes forth in his writing, and I suspect it’s a large part of his appeal.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Galloway probably has a lot of admiration
for Friedman and for Epstein up in Boston. Those are people worthy of all the praise they’ve received.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Rangers avoid arbitration with BMac, one-year, $650,000 contract:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2009/01/15/rangers-avoid-arbitration-with-mccarthy/
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
John Patterson
He was awarded $850,000 on the losing side of an arbitration case before the 2007 season after making just 8 starts, 3 more than McCarthy. So including inflation, McCarthy might have been able to get somewhere around $800,000. Not much of a difference, but at least something.
by Andy Seiler on Jan 15, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Galloway
is like Skip Bayless. Shouldn’t be taken seriously, all shtick. The only difference is that Bayless is actually somewhat intelligent and somewhat entertaining. Galloway lacks both of these qualities.
"I have kids, so when I get on the mound I see someone else trying to steal my job and make my life hell. So I try to do the same thing to them." -- Eric Gagne
Agreen07,
What are your problems with today’s Galloway column?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
More stupidity
Like Adam said when pointing out Randy’s ignorant logic, Kinsler at 3B and MYoung at 2B is better because Kinsler has more power. WTF
I listen to Galloway a decent amount on the radio
and when it comes to the Rangers I think his hatred for JD prevents him from speaking about the team with logic.
"I have kids, so when I get on the mound I see someone else trying to steal my job and make my life hell. So I try to do the same thing to them." -- Eric Gagne
So because Galloway doesn't show any respect for JD
the entire column is invalid?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Josey
so are you related to Galloway, or just his BFF?
by Royal Swine on Jan 15, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
pay raise
Galloway is going to print out this thread and ask the S-T for a pay raise.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
One of the things that is not being discussed in here
is how brutal LSBers were with Kinsler his first two years with the team.
One can only imagine how Andrus will be treated when the team has another slow start and he’s hitting .185 with 12 errors in the middle of May.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Reevo won't give up.....
The “how can we get JD fired” club must have met yesterday. Grandpa Urine on the radio yesterday and column today, followed by a Reevo blog still pursuing the tears streaming, on knees kissing MY’s ass approach to getting him to move….
Hey Reevo, Keith Lax thinks your an idiot too:
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base. Reminds me a little of John Valentin’s snit-fit the year Nomar came up. To his credit, Valentin eventually acknowledged that he was wrong. That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas – now the guy really believes he’s good at short.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 15, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
opps...Law*
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 15, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Reeves is a douchebag
I repeat, the crux of this situation isn’t about Young moving to third, although you could debate that point, too. It’s about whether he was paid the proper respect in the process. Clearly, he believes that didn’t happen. That’s what made him angry and got his back up.
So this guy wants out of town and is willing to go through all this crap because he feels that he wasn’t given the proper respect? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Lots of people aren’t given the respect they feel they deserve. They just don’t go out and cry about it.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
T.O. does.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BJ3CvPLhs
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
JJT at DMN
tossed in about a 40 word pile on tonight. I’m not even linking it.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 15, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
I actually read it today
wow that was awful, he sounded like galloway almost.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Rangers pitchers camp next week hosted by coach Mike Maddux:
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/01/rangers-to-host-pitching-camp-next-week.html
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
Hopefully, brother Greg will attend.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Here's T.R.'s story:
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 15, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Can you not read the handwriting on the wall?
Nolan: Sorry about this disrespectful mess.
Young: Is this the minor leagues?
Nolan: How can we make this right?
Young: I’ll publically state that I’ll move to third base if you fire Jon Daniels because he’s a little twit that doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Nolan: Done. Let me pick the best time for PR.
Young: Don’t wait too long.
Nolan: Consider it a done deal.
Everybody: Oh, Happy days!
I'm just killing time until I'm reincarnated.
Did you read
this morning’s DMN blog talk with Ryan? There has been zero indication, ever, from Ryan that Daniels has anything to worry about.
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