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The pitchers invited to this year's minicamp

As TR Sullivan relayed today, the arms being brought in to work with Mike Maddux and the new staff:

[Guillermo} Moscoso will be in the first group along with Matt Harrison, Luis Mendoza, Thomas Diamond, Derek Holland, John Bannister, Kasey Kiker, Blake Beavan and Tim Murphy. The second group will consist of Warner Madrigal, Brandon McCarthy, Tommy Hunter, Doug Mathis, Neftali Feliz, Michael Ballard, Omar Poveda, Andrew Laughter, Michael Main and Eric Hurley.

I think this is always an interesting list, since it gives a good look at who the organization view as their most prominent young arms. Harrison and McCarthy are prime candidates for rotation spots. Mendoza, Bannister and Mathis are on the 40-man roster. And Ballard and Laughter pitched reasonably well at Frisco. Each of those guys could see the major league roster at some point this year.

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According to the LSB Community Prospect Rankings, the best pitching prospects in the system are:

1. LHP, Derek Holland
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
4. RHP, Michael Main

8. LHP, Martin Perez
10. RHP, Eric Hurley
12. RHP, Blake Beavan
13. RHP, Wilfredo Boscan
14. RHP, Neil Ramirez
15. LHP, Kasey Kiker
17. RHP, Wilmer Font
18. RHP, Omar Poveda
19. LHP, Robbie Ross
20. RHP, Tommy Hunter
21. RHP, Thomas Diamond

22. RHP, Joe Wieland
23. LHP, Tim Murphy (Tie)
25. RHP, Warner Madrigal

27. RHP, Kennil Gomez
28. RHP, Pedro Strop
30. RHP, Carlos Pimentel

Moscoso would have made the list if he'd been traded prior to the voting. My guess is that Murphy, Main and Beavan will start the season in High A, and that separates them from the other lower level guys, Perez, Boscan, Ramirez, Font, Ross, Wieland and Pimentel, who will all be in Low A or go to Extended Spring Training at the start of the season.

Strop wasn't expected to be ready to pitch until a little later as he rehabs his arm, so his exclusion is no surprise. One guy who I would have liked to have seen invited is Gomez, and I would take his exclusion as evidence that his health is still an issue.

So who did guys like Ballard, Laughter and Mathis get invited in front of? Pitchers of some degree of prominence who should be at the High A level or higher to start next season: Jared Hyatt, Michael Schlact, Evan Reed, Beau Jones, Brennan Garr, Zach Phillips, Joseph Ortiz, Mark Hamburger, Joe Torres, Willie Eyre and Kason Gabbard. Dustin Nippert could have been included but presumably wasn't for reasons other than his prominence in the organization in 2009. He did pitch in winter ball, for example. From the sideline I would have liked to have seen Beau Jones and possibly Evan Reed warrant inclusion, so Ballard and Laughter being ahead of them is somewhat telling.

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completely OT

but what on earth is up with the new slogan on texasrangers.com

“built for fun”? really?

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jan 16, 2009 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

I didn't even believe you

I had to pull up the site just to make sure you weren’t joking. That’s an odd one.

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on Jan 16, 2009 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

"Built for fun"

Didn’t Scarlett Johannsen trademark that?

by scoop16 on Jan 16, 2009 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

"Built for me"

More like it

Is it Spring Training Yet?

by SCDP on Jan 16, 2009 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I noticed that today

Pretty lame. At that rate they should’ve stuck with “You could use some baseball”.

That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law

by LSJ on Jan 16, 2009 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that was a pretty good slogan

although something appearing on the website doesn’t mean they are done with it.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jan 16, 2009 5:37 AM CST up reply actions  

or used "No, Seriously! Next Year! We Swear!"

or the famous,

“No one obsesses over the Rangers”

Wait 'til the year after next

by NothinG on Jan 16, 2009 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow. Terrible. That's the Michael Young of team slogans.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I hate Michael Young.

"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith

by thedirkatron on Jan 16, 2009 4:41 AM CST up reply actions  

definitely sounds...

I don’t know how do I say this… foreplay-ish.

by rangersfan32 on Jan 16, 2009 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

anybody

wanna talk serious about this post?

Im glad our Major League Pitching coach is gonna get a look at alot the youngsters he’s gonna count on to build this rotation in the future. It will be interesting to hear what Maddux has to say after seeing some of the youngsters.

by blalock84 on Jan 16, 2009 1:22 AM CST reply actions  

There's not really a ton to discuss.

We invited a bunch of young guys to camp, like every team does every spring.

There are a few mild surprises, but nothing surprising enough for me to my silk panties all up in my butt crack over it.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I hate Michael Young.

"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith

by thedirkatron on Jan 16, 2009 4:44 AM CST up reply actions  

gross

You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader

by iorange555 on Jan 16, 2009 4:55 AM CST up reply actions  

speaking of which

I’m gonna need those back…I let you borrow them over a year ago.

by JimCrankshaft on Jan 16, 2009 4:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Jared Hyatt.

I’m pretty surprised that Hyatt wasn’t on one of the lists.

by NoNameOnCard on Jan 16, 2009 1:24 AM CST reply actions  

observations

I think that Garr, Gomez, Reed, Gabbard and Hyatt were left off in order to rest/rehab. Hyatt said that the club decided to leave him off of the instructs roster due to arm fatigue. Jones has had some shoulder problems previously so I think the club is just playing it safe with him. I would have left Schlact and Phillips off the list too but for a more objective explanation they both pitched a lot of innings. Torres, Bannister, nippert and Eyre are expected to compete for roster spots so their exclusion is no surprise. Unlike Z, I have Ortiz and Hamburger starting off in Hickory so their exclusion is no surprise.

by Goyogringo on Jan 16, 2009 1:31 AM CST reply actions  

Correction

Bannister was not excluded. He left a solid enough impression on the club that they chose to protect him from the rule 5. However this improvement came later in the season, in instructs and the fall league so his inclusion just indicates the clubs interest in a guy who hasn’t pitched above AA; they want to see if they have captured lightning in a bottle or if he is just a flash in the pan (sorry for the cheesy double metaphor).

by Goyogringo on Jan 16, 2009 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Z, JP, Adam or whomever

Have the Rangers had these minicamps in the past? Have they invited lower level pitchers? Do other teams do the same thing?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Jan 16, 2009 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

Yes they have and I believe that they have invited guys along the lines of Main and Beavan as well, yes. And yes, it’s a common practice around baseball. There isn’t anything unusual about this that I’m aware of, I just thought I’d break down who was and wasn’t invited to put the group in perspective.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 16, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

They learn all about

snow monkeys, show and tell with Ryan.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 16, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

IMO

This looks like a list of guys that is seperated in two categories. Relievers who could help this club this upcoming year. And starters who could possibly help the club within two years. That may explain why Jones, Reed, and Hyatt aren’t there. I don’t think either of them fall into one of those categories.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 16, 2009 8:35 AM CST reply actions  

Hyatt will only

help this club as a reliever; he’s not a major league starter IMO. Jones and Reed could help as relievers at the end of the year.

by Goyogringo on Jan 16, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree

If Jones puts it all together, he could be in Arlington by June.

by Andy Seiler on Jan 16, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

They left off a number of LA talent

that presumably would give those young guys more time with their families. Maybe they took that into consideration, and proximity to the majors. These are going to be the guys that have a chance to help us compete in ’10 and ’11.

Wait 'til the year after next

by NothinG on Jan 16, 2009 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

I think it's more the proximity to the majors thing.

IIRC, most of those younger guys will still report to AZ around the same time, they’ll just report to the minor league camp instead of the big boys area.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I hate Michael Young.

"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith

by thedirkatron on Jan 16, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

for some reason

I thought mini camp was before the other arms reports. I wonder if a few of those guys like Maddux will sneak over to get a view at Perez, Boscan etc

Wait 'til the year after next

by NothinG on Jan 16, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, jeez. My bad. I totally missed the "mini" there before "camp". Thought this was just invites to camp. You're right, I'm wrong.

Though I still don’t know why the younger guys were left off.

My guess would still be proximity, but, who knows.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I hate Michael Young.

"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith

by thedirkatron on Jan 16, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

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