Sunday morning things
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 7:07 AM CST
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PrintWell, even with the shortstop/third base fiasco dying down, that story is still the only Rangers related stuff out there this morning.
Jim Reeves this morning has a more tempered take on the Michael Young brouhaha:
The Michael Young/Rangers situation set off a massive debate among D/FW baseball fans that basically split them into two groups.
One side held that the Rangers owed Young more respect than to simply order him to move. The other said Young is a highly compensated employee who needs to simply do what he’s told. That group was bolstered by the "seamheads" — ardent fans of baseball statistics — who judge things almost strictly by the numbers, and thus tend to disparage Young because of his lack of range at short, and ignore the intangibles he brings to the organization.
I suspect that the real answer lies somewhere between those two camps.
The question is whether the contentiousness of the situation could have been avoided with a different approach in the initial meeting between general manager Jon Daniels, manager Ron Washington and Young.
Maybe not. Maybe Young, hating the idea of moving to third, was destined to react just the way he did no matter how the subject was broached.
Whether by plan or fate — or perhaps both — Nolan Ryan didn’t attend the initial meeting and thus was in a position, as a former player himself, to "ride to the rescue" as it were. He could empathize with Young while also pointing out how important the move was to the team. That also allowed Young to eventually realize that he had little choice but to reverse his stance. But he didn’t have to do that with Daniels, whom Young clearly blames for how this was presented.
Again, whether Daniels could have said something differently, added a nuance here or there, is open to debate, but it may simply have been an ugly case of "kill the messenger."
Having been "the messenger" on many occasions, I can relate.
I have to say, I'm more than a little surprised by this turnaround, and this is one of the more reasoned takes on the situation there's been locally. Hopefully, now that things have died down and some of the smoke has cleared, this will be a trend.
Galloway also has a column up on the situation, which can be boiled down to:
1. Nolan was the "driving force" behind Young moving to third base, and
2. "Jon Boy" was "out of his element" in telling Young he was moving -- it should have been Nolan, apparently.
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Reeves has come to see the idiocy of his position and is trying to back away. Now its Granpa Urine’s turn. I am not optomistic
How can you be?
GU has never backed down from one of his stupid rants no matter if he was wrong or not ie the H. Walker trade that he said would be a disaster for the Cowboys.
Miami bound...
Intangibles
…tend to disparage Young because of his lack of range at short, and ignore the intangibles he brings to the organization.
I’ve heard things like this before, and it seems to me that Reeves is arguing that moving Young to third would somehow negate those intangibles. I had no idea intangibles were position specific.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 18, 2009 7:58 AM CST reply actions
That's the first thing I thought when I read that
Reeves basically makes the organization’s argument for them – Move his limited range off SS and keep his leadership and the other ‘intangibles’ on the field.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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exactly what I thought
his “intangibles” are being a ‘team player’ and a ‘leader.’ He doesn’t lose that when he moves to third unless he creates a situation to make him sound selfish etc. Although, to many, he has salvage his team player image.
Next Year! We Swear!
Ken Tremendous
FWIW, Ken Tremendous made a couple of appearances in last week’s Law chat.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 18, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
The question is...
was it really him, or the hundreds of minions that would write into the Joe Morgan chats as Ten Kremendous, etc…
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
My problem with Galloway's points....well, oe of them
Is the fact that it totally is the GMs job to handle situations like this. Not the President of Baseball Operations. Just like JD said on the 105.3The Fan on Friday, its his job to handle the dirty situations and if players dont really like him, oh well. And like Kinsler said 10 mins later, players have very little contact with JD during the season. JD did say the only thing he would have changed was not bringing in Wash on the discussion. Which i thought was interesting but i guess it is best not to burn those bridges with the man the players deal with every day. But in the end, this was JDs job and IMO, he did exactly what he should have done!!
Come on April 6th BABY!!!
exactly, it’s the gm’s responsibility to handle this sort of thing.
the funny part is a few days ago it was nolan cleaning up johnny boys mess, and today it’s that this was nolans idea the entire time and he should have delivered the news himself.
the other funny thing i see here is all players telling young not to move off ss. whats the big deal? if arod can move to 3rd young can do it.
i wonder if he consulted soriano
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
It makes complete sense.....
for those players to sympathize with Young, especially while on the phone or face to face. If anyone was facing a tough situation and reached out to friends, most of those friends, are going to tell the person what they want to hear. Even those that might disagree are probably going to do so very delicately such that the person may just dismiss it.
Just my opinion.
I wonder what kind of scrap heap guys were still available this time last year
I cant remember.
Sign people, sign.
the preceding post was a great success.
A year ago
We signed Jason Jennings.
A week later we had to DFA Armando Galarraga
to make room on the 40 for him.
Yeah. Well, hopefully a better read on the potential of the young pitchers will result
from the Galarraga saga.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
Opening day lineup...
2B – Kinsler
3B – Young
RF – Hamilton
LF – Cruz
1B – Davis
CF – Byrd
DH – Saltalamacchia
CA – Teagarden
SS – Vizquel
- Blalock is traded
Anyone else think this could/should be the Rangers lineup on opening day?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
move
Hamilton to Center, Cruz to right, and put Murphy in left, and I could see that happening….
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
yeah, I don't see Murphy starting against Cliff Lee.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 18, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Well thinking about the pitcfhing matchup pretty much locks it up for that particular game
but I think byrd is going to get more starts just in general than murph, at least until their level of play dictates something different.
the preceding post was a great success.
I don't think we can trade Blalock either
but I would much rather Salty be hitting at DH when he isn’t catching. If Blalock can start the season, however, how he ended it, I think his trade value would go up. It is a matter of health.
Next Year! We Swear!
I see it like this
2B-Kinsler
3B-Young
CF-Hamilton
RF-Cruz
DH-Blalock
1B-Davis
C-Tea
LF-Murphy
SS-Vizquel (for a month then Elvis)
I see Byrd getting plenty of time in CF againsty lefties.
I see Tea/Salty getting a 60-40 split at catcher.
I see salty getting time at DH against lefties.
by death of the cool on Jan 18, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
DH
Andruw Jones
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Ugh.
Pass. Andruw Jones in no way interests me.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
He will after a huge spring training
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
huge spring training...
…at the buffet, maybe.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Jan 18, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
He's said to be working out with Chipper and McCann.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I'm sure you would
But Jones may not even get a roster guaranteed contract.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
no matter what jones is getting his money from LAD
and a team wouldn’t really have to pay that much.
but, he isn’t worth a spot on this team, especially since I would expect Borbon to be up this season.
Next Year! We Swear!
Good point
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Andruw has flamed out
And no regularly scheduled maintenance is possible. However earnest the idea, it’s beyond belief that Andruw can play MLB again.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jan 18, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Probably true
But I wouldn’t mind if he was in spring training, battling for a job, nothing guaranteed.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
You want to sign a DH...
…who had a 724 OPS in 2007 and a 505 OPS last year, and who got sent him from the winter league because he’s terrible.
Why would you want to sign him?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
didn't you want to get Brandon Wood
who also got send home from the winter league
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
just saying that "getting sent home" from the Winter Leagues
isn’t exactly the biggest deal – and that you really don’t think it’s that big of a deal.
The past two years are obviously important.
BTW, I think Andruw Jones will be pretty good next year.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
When you are coming off...
…a season that gets you released in the midst of a 2 year, $36 million deal, and another season that was a major disappointment, then getting sent home from winter league because you suck is a red flag.
If he had torn it up down there, it would be pointed to as a reason to sign him.
The fact he continued to suck ass in winter leagues is, thus, a negative.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I would want to sign him if....
Rudy thinks he can work with him.. He signs a contract with no roster guarantees.. Why not?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
It is a waste of time
What are you going to do with him? Whose spot does he replace, if he shows something this spring?
Are you going to trade Blalock to give Jones a spot?
Are you going to release Cat?
Are you going to have him be the backup outfielder?
I see no reason to waste time with him, given that we have plenty of other options.
I’d be opposed to signing him because I think there’s a better chance he shows just enough in spring training to end up sticking on the team, and then sucking during the season and being a waste of a roster spot, then that he’d contribute.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
So you dont want him, because you dont trust whoever makes the final evaluation?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I believe he could provide more, yes
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
It ate
Defense.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Only if Blalock isn't here, though
If Blalock is here, I want Blalock hitting. Still, though, he would provide more versatility than Frank. Saying he is our DH doesn’t mean he can’t ever play the field.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The Rangers have...
…Byrd, Murphy, Hamilton, and Cruz all on their opening day roster, with Brandon Boggs and Julio Borbon in AAA, plus Greg Golson on the 40 man.
All of those guys (except Cruz) can play center field. All of those guys except Byrd are under team control for some time, and Byrd is, I think, a much better player than Jones right now.
So why would you add Jones in the mix as an outfield option?
And if you want him primarily to DH, why wouldn’t you get someone who can hit?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
If Blalock was gone
I wouldn’t mind having Jones compete for the DH spot in spring training. From that point on, it comes down to our evaluation of Andruw Jones. If he can’t hit, then he’s released.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I think the idea...
…of wasting spring ABs on him is pointless.
I’d rather see Cat, or Salty (when he isn’t catching), or Byrd (when Murphy is in the OF), or Hamilton (when he needs a day off), get DH ABs this season than waste time with Jones.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Any idea of using Andruw Jones as a DH is a waste of whatever abilities that he still has left
He has value as a center fielder, and even though it’s declining, he is still above average defensively at CF (UZR has him at +3.7 runs in CF from his 500 innings in 08, which is pretty good and translate to about 12 runs over an entire season). If you think that he can maintain that type of defense, I can see some justification for taking a chance on him ONLY as a center fielder.
Putting him at DH is a horrible waste, there are a lot of people who can put up .700 OPS.
x
Putting him at DH is a horrible waste, there are a lot of people who can put up .700 OPS.
Including Frank Catalanotto, who has posted a much better EQA in each of the last two season (while being viewed as a colossal flop) than Jones has in either of the past two seasons.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
x
IF Jones is what he has been the last 2 years, then no one wants him.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I don't want him...
…because I think he’s worthless, and even if he returns to hitting like he did in 2007, I’d rather see Marlon Byrd or Max Ramirez or Cat or Blalock DH.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather see Ramirez or Blalock
Not Byrd or Cat.. but yeah, I would really only be for trying Andruw if Blalock gets traded.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Cat
gone.
and if he sucked that much, you could just release him since he’s probably just making league minimum anyway.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Why would you release Cat to make room for Jones?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
aren't we trying to get more right handed?
and why would we want to keep cat around?
And, I do think there’s a good chance Jones outperforms Cat next year.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Wanted to get more righthanded...
…doesn’t mean that it makes sense to release a guy who can hit a little and be the 25th man on the roster to make room for a guy who wanted to be released by the Dodgers because he wasn’t going to get enough playing time and who has been a worse hitter than Cat the past two years.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
well, its not often that I agree with Galloway
but I found one thing that I couldnt help but agree with.
Excuse me for being one of the few who still actually care, but I liked it last week when the Texas Rangers suddenly crawled into the January top-of-the-page news cycle.
It took controversy for that to happen, but so what? Bring on some baseball heat.
It’s nice to hear about something other than the Cowboys at this time of the year.
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
Sorry
for stating the obvious, but Galloway is a joke.
"Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"-Tom Smykowski Office Space.
I tell you what, if he's gonna give Nolan all the credit for getting Young to move:
I say we blame Galloway if Andrus has a bad spring training/opening to the regular season and is sent to AAA, due to all this media attention.
I mean the reasoning isn’t too far off, is it?
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Has Reeves had a chat with Grant?
Strange shift of opinion, but apparently the time he served in the role of messenger made a massive impact on him.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
I didn't know we here at LSB were "seamheads"
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
According to Galloway we’re just a bunch of geeks because we know what OPS means.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 18, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Well, in Galloway's defense...
…I have the sneaking suspicion that LAMF hasn’t kissed a girl, which is one of the key symptoms of geekdom.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
I haven't seen this anywere else so, here are some quotes by Padzilla from TR on friday:
* Vicente Padilla, in the Nicaragua newspaper LaPrensa, on his goals for 2009: "I want to win every game. I would like to win the Cy Young, but as I said, it up to God. I would like to have a better year than 2008 (when he won 14 games).
* Padilla on his being in the last year of his contract with a club option for 2010: “I have prepared well each year. I want to pitch good always but sometimes there are injuries but now I hope that everything is better than in the past. I feel comfortable in Texas. Besides the Rangers have an option on me or I can be a free agent. So we need to have a good season because no one knows what will happen. I would like to continue Texas and the team may extend my contract this year.”
* Padilla on the Rangers rebuilding: “the process goes well. Last year I was surprised by how injuries hit the team. In in the end, the injuries affected us greatly. However, I like the team and I think it will be more difficult to defeat now. We have all matured a little more.”
http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/01/friday_happy_hour_at_the_elysi_32.html
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
Nothing particularly compelling
but i still like to hear players say that kind of stuff. thanks for the link.
the preceding post was a great success.
OT: procedural question
Just kinda curious about this, no particular reason why. If a player like Andruw Jones (or Catalanatto) is released while under contract, it is my understanding that the player receives his full salary from the team he’s under contract with. My question is if that player signs with another team, do they then receive both salaries? Say Cat is owed $4 million, is released by the Rangers, then resigned by another team for $1 million. In that case would Cat make both of those salaries for this season?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Yep.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
you sure about that?
I thought that the team that cut him and was paying him for the rest of the year (or rest of the contract), got to reduce the level of their payments by the amount that the next team was paying him. I’m almost certain that is the case with managers under contract — I’d assume its the same for the players, but not 100% about it.
by Mike Hodson on Jan 18, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yup...
Pretty sure under that scenario, the Rangers would owe Cat $3M and team X would pay him his $1M salary.
If the Dodgers would have to release Jones outright then they would have to pay everything owed to him minus the league minimum of $400,000
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Usually,
a player is put on waivers for their unconditional release. If a team takes them before they make it through waivers, then that team is responsible for the balance of the contract. If the player makes it through waivers and is signed as a free agent by another team, then the waiving team would still be responsible for the balance of the contract and the player could also negotiate more money from another team.
No
That’s why teams don’t sign released players for $1 million if they are owed $4 million. The player doesn’t get to double-dip…it would just reduce what he’s owed by the releasing team.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
You are right
Non-duplication
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
If the Dodgers would have to release Jones outright then they would have to pay everything owed to him minus the league minimum of $400,000
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Obviously meant as reply.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Other teams show interest in sheets
phillies and mets have now shown interest. I know it was always a pipe dream, but I could still hope
Next Year! We Swear!
why would you not go to either of those teams if you were sheets?
maddux and dallas? Is that really enough?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
If I'm Sheets, I would definitely choose one of those
even for the sake of getting a new contract. He would be in a big market either way and drive his price up, especially if he is on a two year deal. That is, if he pitches well and is healthy.
Also, both those teams are in a position to win now. Phillies just won the WS and the Mets have alot of talent and a poised to make another run. Perhaps they’ll be choke artists again. I’m sure Hamels would love that.
Next Year! We Swear!
I could see him picking the rangers over the phillies if the Rangers offer a little more money
The comfort factor could conceivably be more important to him than the instant winner.. ballparks are the same.
Mets… well I just hope they sign oliver perez.
If these teams are just getting in now it really makes me wish the rangers had made a very competitive offer months ago. I don’t like hearing that they still havnt even made an offer. Im still clinging to hope, but knowing that and that these other teams are now getting in on it… yeah.. dwindling.
the preceding post was a great success.
I don't understand why we didn't make an offer earlier
but Sheets may be asking for too much and waiting for his market value to increase again. people say he will be a bargain, and I doubt it, especially since two big market teams are now involved.
Next Year! We Swear!
I think Adam is giving Reevo...
too much credit. I don’t take this column as a “new” level headed view.
I think the new column is more Reevo trying to cover his ass for being wrong, — he writes an idiotic column about how JD should have kissed MY’s butt and only “asked” him to move. Then, after tons of blowback he realizes that was probably a stupid opinion and comes back with “Hey, don’t shoot the messenger…”
and he does it
without actually saying he’s wrong. describing “two groups” without actually saying that he was the flag bearer of one those groups.
what a half assed mea culpa
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Reeves
Seems like he’s trying to save face based on his earlier position. I get the impression that he feels like he may have overplayed his hand, thinking that this was the beginning of the end for Daniels. Now he’s got egg on his face. Still, it’s good to see him walking it back a bit, since Galloway seems determined to keep on digging, despite the hole he’s in. It’s amazing to me that Galloway can apparently pull something out of his ass (“The driving force behind getting Elvis to short, and getting Young to move to third was Nolan Ryan”) with absolutely no evidence, quotations, or sources to back it up. Even worse, the ST will publish it. I guess facts and sources don’t matter to Galloway or the Star-Telegram, which is too bad.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
I also wouldn't be shocked...
…if he had a talk with Nolan about the situation, and if that didn’t end up influencing Reeves’ backpeddling.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 18, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
man nolan can set anyone straight cant he?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Sickels 2009 Top 100
Was posted on rotowire on 1/12
Sorry didn’t see it on here anywhere so not sure if its already been posted.
Where did he rank the Ranger prospects?
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 18, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
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