Monday a.m. stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 19, 2009 8:55 AM CST
188 comments
No real news today, other than the Rangers supposedly being out on Freddy Garcia.
I do suggest you check out this article at FanGraphs by Brian Cartwright, who helps explain why our perceptions often conflict with the stats when it comes to defense.
0 recs |
188 comments
|
Email
Print
Comments
Kurt Warner is.
Larry Fitzgerald is. Anquan Boldin is. but it should all come down to defense, which Pitt has plenty of…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 19, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Steel Curtain is about to fall on the Cardinals miracle run.
The difference in quality of play between the two games yesterday was crazy. I predict the Steelers D scores more points than Arizona’s offense in the SB.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
Cards D seemed fairly decent even with McNabb showing more mobility than usual. Also, it seemed that Warner was getting a decent amount of time against a very good D. That said, when one of team’s touchdown’s was a pitch-lateral-deep throw, I can’t see that being replicated.
I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun.
by WyoRanger on Jan 19, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Steelers win, but Arizona isn’t a joke.
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see a joke.
I always enjoy a ridiculous blowout super bowl unless the game is really close. I want either a 3 point game or a 30 point game.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jan 19, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So I gather
The Rangers have resigned themselves to losing and their strategy is now to lose as little money as possible.
Cant say I blame them, they had the most talent in baseball 18 of the last 20 years, traded away 2 or 3 all stars at most every position, and still couldn’t win.
by Sharky on Jan 19, 2009 9:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Which 2 years
didn’t they have the most talent in baseball?
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Jan 19, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
They had the most for 128 of the last 20.
Actually probably more like 16, as the last 2-3 years I dont think they have (it’s now a 4A club). But probably 15 of the preceeding 16 they did.
by Sharky on Jan 19, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So from 1989-2004 most talent in baseball
2006-2008 AAAA club?
Baseball according to Sharky.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Jan 19, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it wrong that I kind of missed Sharky?
He’s a shtick-wielding caricature, for sure.
But he’s crazy to the point I actually find him interesting, as opposed to say Josey or Hurler.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always been a fan
of his craziness.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Jan 19, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you find this stuff
interesting?
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
by Haeger Champ on Jan 19, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Once I figured out that he was legitimately an insane person, yes.
I enjoy him for what he is.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you're saying you don't think HH is insane??
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jan 19, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alcohol-induced
loony-ness does not equal insanity.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jan 19, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when Sharky crawls from his cave, throws out 50 comments, and disappears
He’s our chupacabra.
I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun.
by WyoRanger on Jan 19, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
he’s an enigma.
I like his infrequent stops here…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 19, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
If only they would have had a decent offensive coordinator they would have been a dynasty.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jan 19, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
20 sided die reference
Does this mean there is a d20 baseball game that I don’t know about? Can I pick this game up at Lone Star Comics? :)
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Jan 19, 2009 9:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hated that paragraph.
Talk about using statistics to manipulate readers. You take your 20-sided die, and then you say Everett is 20 or below and Vazquez is 1 and Jeter is 2 or below. It presents his case that Everett is 20x better than Vazquez. The problem was, he defined the 20 sided die as only analyzing chance between Vazquez’s level and Everett’s level – about 7%.
We can do that for other players too -say we have the OBP of Chipper Jones (470) and Albert Pujols (462). We’ll assume that 46% of the time either player gets on base. 53% of the time neither gets on base. For everything else, we roll a ten-sided die. If it is 1 or 2, then Pujols gets on base. If it is a 10 or less (everything), then Chipper gets on base. 10 vs 2 – Chipper is just that much better a hitter than Pujols.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
huh
It doesn’t really do that at all. It just states the chances of one fielder getting to a ball that the other fielder wouldn’t get to. He doesn’t say that is the entirety of defense and that getting to more balls makes you exactly 20 times better.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 19, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no point in bringing in random variables there.
None. Sure, Everett fields 7% more balls than Vazquez and 6.5% more than Jeter. Great. We get that. Everyone reading his article knows what that means. Saying “lets throw a die for the difference between the worst (Vazquez) and the best (Everett), and Jeter only gets 1 or 2 sides!” is completely manipulative. By switching to the die analogy, he changes the frame of reference to one which magnifies the difference between good and bad.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well you were saying that the author
was claiming Everett was 20 10 times better than Jeter. That simply isn’t what he’s saying. I understand the point about the die not being the best way to analyze this, but its a good way, at least IMO, of giving readers an idea of what this means.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 19, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he doesn't say that explicitly
I just see that die analogy as doing more to suggest the difference is far bigger than what it really is. Maybe it wasn’t intended, but that is one way it comes across. It inflates the difference, and so isn’t a fair portrayal of the difference between the two players. (incidentally, how did I get into two completely separate arguments about fair writing in the same thread?)
A valid die analogy would be to have a 100 sided die, where 76 sides are an out for Vazquez, and 83 sides are an out for Everett (or whatever the numbers were).
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to metion that would be the most awesome die ever
by robert_d_wilfong on Jan 19, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My friend gave me his old 100 sided die
It didn’t work too well. Each side was too small and it would roll longer than a normal die. When it did finally stop, it was too difficult to determine which was the top number. He eventually gave it to my cat as a toy since she was always trying to play with our dice during our D&D games.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Jan 19, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly we backed out on garcia because
We don’t need him with the Sheets/Buccholz acquisitions locked up.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 19, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m still guardedly optimistic on the Sheets front.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by tricer on Jan 19, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not.
The Mets and the Phills are supposedly taking a long look, and there have to be other teams out there nosing around, too.
I think at this point we have to assume that either, a) We don’t have the money and aren’t going to be able to pony up what he wants, or, b) Mike Maddux and/or Sheets’ medical records are sending up red flags and telling us to stay the mother F away.
Cause if we could afford him and Maddux and/or the medical reports weren’t telling us to stay away, I think he’d be a Ranger right now.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pettitte
I am still surprised that Pettitte has not gotten more interest from teams not named the Yankees. Sheets certainly has more upside, but Pettitte would be a better bet to remain healthy, and neither team (Mets or Phills) are in dire need of an ace.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 19, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pettite is not an ace
but he fits with the Mets, especially when you take into consideration that the Phillies are their main competition and their entire team is LH. If I were the mets, I’d have Santana, Pettite and perhaps still make a run at Perez
Next Year! We Swear!
by NothinG on Jan 19, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clarify
I guess I should clarify; when I mentioned an ace I was referring to Sheets. As such, I think Pettitte would be a better fit for the Mets and Phills because he would fit in nicely in the middle of the rotation. Wolf is still out there as well, but I’ve heard rumors that he wants to stay on the West Coast. I did not think about the number of LHP on the Phills’ roster, which certainly makes a lot of sense.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 19, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of that stems from Pettitte's percieved reluctance to play anywhere other than Houston or the Bronx.
Or, at least that’s all I can figure.
Cause otherwise he’s at worst a pretty good LAIE who could be had on a one year deal.
You’d figure a lot of teams would be all over that if he was willing to go wherever the money took him.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shep, you won't give in to the fact that we won't get Sheets
lol
Next Year! We Swear!
by NothinG on Jan 19, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to believe we get Sheets
but the chances seem remote at best
Next Year! We Swear!
by NothinG on Jan 19, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i know..
they need to tell kinsler he is moving to short now. That would get some news going again.
by Michael Cave on Jan 19, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or Hamilton's going to pitch for us
with such a great arm…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 19, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge is still available
We should sign him as a pitcher – he always wanted to pitch.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Most pitchers trying to resurrect their career.....
Will have Texas last on their list of choices.
DH + hitter friendly park + terrible track record for pitching = “We are signing with another club”
by death of the cool on Jan 19, 2009 9:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Then again
if you resurrect your career in Texas (a la Sidney Ponson before he got tossed) then you’re pretty much saying you can pitch anywhere and be successful.
by macromorgan on Jan 19, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's too simplistic
Other organizations completely understand the park factors at the tBIA. They certainly take them into account when evaluating a pitcher. If players were that simplistic, they’d look at the Rangers offense and think “cool – I’m going to rack up 20 wins with that run support.”
I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun.
by WyoRanger on Jan 19, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it does matter....
Pitchers have seen free agents that signed here such as Park and Millwood struggle along with very little success from any minor leaguers making the jump…..granted the offense can get you a solid win total, but if you have an ERA near 5.00 its going to hurt your negotiations.
Now I think most of this is perception. We have had bad pitchers and usually and above-average offense….we have let a few go that developed in other places, but for the most part we just have not had any consistantly average to dominate starters.
Now I think it helps us when a position player wants to try to have a career year to get paid….such as Bradley, but it would be nice to be able to sign a Mark Prior and see if we hit gold, but pitchers looking to put up a big year to raise their value will look somewhere else unless they don’t have anywhere else to go (like Jennings)
by death of the cool on Jan 19, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Defense...
I’ve been wondering about +/- and the Rays. I know their aggregate pitching stats didn’t change much from last year to this, but their runs allowed dropped by 270. I’m not certain it should be attributed to defense as much as it seems to be. Dewan has this to say about converting +/- to runs allowed:
One thing we want to do in the future is translate these plus/minus numbers and all the other defensive metrics we have in this book into one number. That might be a number similar to Runs Created, but for defense not offense. Maybe it’s called Runs Prevented. But between you and me, you can use the rule of thumb that Bill James used in his article on Derek Jeter and Adam Everett.
That is, use a number a little less than half of the plus/minus number as an estimate of runs prevented. Since the value of a single is a little less than half a run, you can use a "little less than half" of the plus/minus figure to estimate runs prevented.
So, if you take the +/- of the starters from the 2007 season, subtract them from the 2008 season, you should get the aggregate run differential due to the changes on defense. I don’t think this adds up to 270 runs.
So, I’m not sure how to view how much the Rangers might expect to gain from this transition of Young to 3B. I’m not saying it will be insignificant. I just can’t say how significant. Maybe others are more widely read on this topic than me.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 19, 2009 9:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My recollection is...
…that Tom Tango’s linear weights has a single at 7/10ths of a run.
That’s a pretty significant difference.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 19, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The defense article
doesn’t have MY’s rank in the ‘hands’ category – which is the intuitive indicator of success for a lot of those predicting he’s going to be a solid 3-bagger. Do you know where he ranks in “hands?”
by shroomer on Jan 19, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hands rating
is that not just fielding percentage?
anyway, MY is probably pretty high but, like the article says, there is a bias there for guys without much range but have highly rated hands
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that +/- measures “plays,” which essentially translates as a single. They use “enhanced plays” to account for plays that would cost extra bases. The number I’ve heard to convert plays into runs is .82 (which IIRC is pretty close to the Palmer’s run value of a single).
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
by OCD SS on Jan 19, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bear with my linear thinking here ...
but does that mean that anytime a batter hits a single, there’s a 70% chance that it leads to a run?
Is it really that high?
by Athos on Jan 19, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
So a line of 7r, 10h is average? That seems ridiculous. What am I missing?
by robert_d_wilfong on Jan 19, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, a single is not 7/10ths a run.
It’s a little less than half a run. So what you’re missing is that most of this conversation is about a mistake.
by philkid3 on Jan 19, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
However...
…you have to take into account the value of an out.
According to this chart:
http://spiff.rit.edu/richmond/baseball/lwts/lwts_intro.html
A single is worth .480 runs, and a groundout is worth -.303 runs.
If a single is converted to a ground out, that’s a net .783 run swing, or roughly the .7-.8 run amount we’re talking about.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 19, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only asking so that I can also be educated
I find this stuff interesting, is there a link or a primer somewhere that explains these things in detail? I see that a groundout would decrease the chances of scoring, so in that way a negative value makes sense. But on the other hand it seems counter intuitive that a typical three up-three down inning would somehow be worth -0.909 runs.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by tricer on Jan 19, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the run expectancy stuff come’s from Palmer’s book “The Hidden Game of Baseball” which is out of print. It’s also probably a little out of date.
If you go to TangoTiger’s Blog, you can probably find a bunch of stuff if you root around long enough. I’m also trying to remember how much of this is in Tango, Lichtman, and Dolphin’s book on baseball, “The Book” (which you can buy on their site or on amazon.com).
Tango (at least until he started working for the Mariners, I don’t know if he still does) also helped Lichtman (who goes by MGL on the internet) with UZR.
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
by OCD SS on Jan 20, 2009 6:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not 7R 10H...
7R 10 Singles…. Seems really high to me as well. But that’s just the eyeball test, I’ve never actually looked into it before.
by Topgun22 on Jan 19, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JD on the Ticket this morning
The Musers teased early this morning an 8:50am interview today with Jon Daniels. Did anybody hear what he had to say?
by 3hacks on Jan 19, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
8:50 is usually their fake bit segment
I think
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 19, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No he was for real but I tuned in at the end.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 19, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
was on*
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 19, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah yeah, sorry
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 19, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing much.
JD said there are literally hundreds of players out there that could help a MLB team. He didn’t specifically say TX was in on any certain FA, just that there were many out there.
Musers whipped his ass with ‘move Kinsler to the OF’ talk, and JD said that was never, ever considered.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jan 19, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Musers = Morons
Next Year! We Swear!
by NothinG on Jan 19, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I find it interesting
that the “eye-ball” test is generally considered to be at odds with sabermetrics and yet it is the very eye-ball test that has allowed most Ranger fans to conclude that MY sucks at SS, no saber#’s required.
Deeper statistical analysis backs up what was/is easily observable from a couch in Collin County……
"You’re the worst poster here I think."--- brettgardner
by red shoe ranger on Jan 19, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
hey, at least MY wasn't the worst
in regards to range. Angel Berroa fans can celebrate!
Next Year! We Swear!
by NothinG on Jan 19, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there's Obama......
……and then there’s Bush! (NSFW)
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5176357&sid=6e6cf1e0-1265-4b5c-ba6e-e996895d46c7
"You’re the worst poster here I think."--- brettgardner
by red shoe ranger on Jan 19, 2009 10:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
and Pitt's!
"You’re the worst poster here I think."--- brettgardner
by red shoe ranger on Jan 19, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bad joke:
q. What did AROD say when he first got a look at that?
a. Well, its a good thing I rake………..
"You’re the worst poster here I think."--- brettgardner
by red shoe ranger on Jan 19, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
Lets see, how believable are the following items:
1. Boosters throw wild party during UT-OU weekend with sex, drugs, and alcohol?
2. Teenage kids whose egos are in the stratosphere may exaggerate their stories?
3. NYT columnists will sometimes not fully pursue the truth if a possibly too-good-to-be-true story is in front of them?
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
4. All of the above?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3. Really?
The article lays out the reasons that something like that happens and also serves as a mea culpa by the NYT and you take a cheap shot (that’s not even true). Nice.
Did you read the article at all or did you just glean what you wanted to? Because you missed the words freelance
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like an odd thing to get bent out of shape over
Stupid political season made people hypersensitive to even mild critiques of the media. In case you didn’t read all of my post and just gleaned from it the comment that made you mad, most of what I said was purposefully extreme as a joke – I don’t really think all UT parties are wild affairs, though I’m sure some are. I don’t really think that all teenagers would exaggerate stores, though I’m sure some do, and I don’t think all NYT pieces are crap, though I bet some occassionally are. For the record (since this is the “paper of record” we are talking about here), I think its great the NYT addressed it. And the other things in the article too, that I read rather than just picking out things to satisfy my anger at their mistreatment of UT (a school I really could care less about).
I’ll admit I’m cynical of investigative reporting – not because writers have agendas (though obviously sometimes they do, but that is why things get investigated to begin with), but because there is a tendency to inflate stories. Mundane stories don’t sell, especially in this era. So the 1% crazy exciting stories that are less common and certainly less representative of the topic in question get talked about. Or I should say, actually get printed. Journalism is an industry with a sampling bias for the extreme, and thus does not always give an accurate portrayal of how things really are. That’s not their fault – it is what sells, and we’re in a capitalist society that rewards that. It just is what is is. The NYT and whatever other media source someone happens to love is not perfect. It just is.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your post was three sentences
i don’t know how i can glean anything more than what i did from it. and really the post above was blah blah blah, trying to come back with some sort of relevant response even though you didn’t address the very specific complaint I had.
My complaint: You made a critique of NYT’s columnists as a whole when
1) They are readily admitting to the mistake, explaining why it isn’t just capitalism run amok AND
2) This isn’t a NYT columnist.
If you wanted to make the point that you are making above, you might not have said “NYT’s columnists” and just said columnist. But even still, it’s a characterization of the media that I don’t agree with and I was calling you out on it. If you can’t handle it – sorry.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you work for the Times or something?
Honestly, I don’t really care about the New York Times – my comment is more about media in general. The reason I said “the NYT” in my original post is because THEY PRINTED THE ARTICLE. Yes he’s a freelance writer “who writes frequently for The Times.” The “freelance” versus “NYT columnist” is really a semantic one. And admitting mistakes is always good, I don’t see
Anyway, we’ll just disagree about the media in general – we’re not the only ones who disagree about this. I said I’m cynical, which is pretty much admitting that I have less faith in it than the average person. I’m not overly so, I just filter how much I believe about what I read because of this very thing. I’m cynical about sports reporting as well.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just to counter specifically the "capitalism" angle
a newspaper is not going to be in business that long if it keeps exaggerating stories. Credibility is pretty important and would directly affect the bottom line – if NYT keeps on having to run retractions on a regular basis it is going to lose readership. Plus, there is the issue of libel and given punitive damages, it really wouldn’t’ make it profitable even if you weren’t getting caught all the time.
I agree about the sampling bias point – you are going to get a disproportionately larger number of sexual assault stories than theft stories (lame example) but you can do that because those sex assault stories actually happened. But, I don’t think that translates to exaggerating stories (essentially lying) being profitable.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the media lies very often
I’m certainly not saying that. Its more a general sampling bias that I’m talking about. Its in a newspaper’s interest to have more articles about murders than car robberies, even if the latter outnumber the former by 100 fold. Look at the stories that show up on 60 Minutes or 20/20 (is that even still on?). They are always dramatic, with some guy who was given some drug that made him sick, blah blah blah, and the evil pharmaceutical company doesn’t care. It’s factually accurate, I’m sure, but it isn’t always necessarily a fair portrayal of what goes on.
I agree that lying and deliberately manipulating stories do get you in trouble. There is also a capitalist interest to keep that from happening (whereas that doesn’t exist in state-run media (i.e., old Soviet media) – they can lie without any real cost). Its better to have a boring story than a wrong story, because it is embarrassing when things go wrong and you have to retract or acknowledge (as they do in this case).
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So Omar Vizquel
Are we sure he shouldn’t be our starting SS? Apparently he is the 2nd best infielder in baseball.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
2nd best defensively...
dead last offensively…
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 19, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to have him as our starting SS and #9 hitter come April.
And then Elvis arrives when he forces himself up.
I’m so excited about having actual infield defense this year.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To start the offseason, Daniels said improving the infield defense was a priority
If we only knew what he had in store for us..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If only we'd upgraded the staff with, say Sheets and Wood, I'd say we were in prime position to make a run at the West this year.
As it is I still think we’re gonna be a better team this year, and we’re still in prime position to start making a run in ’10.
Tons better D at SS.
Hopefully better D at 3rd, 2nd and 1st.
Better production from our catchers.
A full year of Franky Frank as closer.
Nelly Cruz finally stepping up in the OF.
We lost the league’s best DH, but hopefully the D and a full year of Blalock, Davis, Cruz and Sal-Tea can make up for some of that.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Missed opportunity
I really feel like the team is missing an opportunity by not going hard after someone like Sheets. It’s a bargain year and maybe a time when a risky player like Sheets is cheap enough to make the bet he can stay healthy.
Even if they are shooting for 2010, Feliz and Holland aren’t likely to be top of the rotation guys right out of the gate. Sheets on a 2-yr. deal with a vesting option would really help bridge the gap until more of the youngsters are solid contributors.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jan 19, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there's still an eventual trade
of one of our catchers…at some point…and the possible trades of Byrd, Murphy, Millwood, Padilla to look forward to. that could produce a closer version of our staff ace. and what free agents will be around next year?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 19, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
None of those guys
is going to bring back an ace in return. Maybe a potential top of the rotation guy several years from now in a prospect, but I’m talking about a guy who is a potential ace right now. And next year the pitching free agent class is much smaller and with less top quality available.
Right now there is an oppo for a relatively bargain rate ace that costs only money, and quite a bit less of that than we would have guessed a couple of months ago.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jan 19, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aces
In your opinion, how many aces are out there as FA’s right now?
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 19, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You weren't asking me, but, One.
There was another, but he decided some time ago that money is nice and that pinstripes are slimming.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
After Sheets, they are all middle or end of the rotation guys (well, Perez can be an ace one night and total crap the next). So if you are looking for an ace, Sheets is it. When you factor in his injury history and his current injury status (whatever it may be, but I’ve heard nothing that says he has a clean bill of health), I just don’t think it is a clear decision to offer whatever it takes to get Sheets in a Rangers uniform. Daniels has said that Sheets is a “player of interest”, but I interpret this as meaning that Daniels is hoping to string this thing out as long as he can until a really good deal develops.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 19, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree - I would love to have Sheets
I’ve thought all along an injure-risk like him or Harden was the only way we were going to be able to buy an ace.
But I do think we can put together a package to get a Clay Buchholz without giving up our farm…will it be hard to swallow? For most of us, yes, but I think it can be done.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 19, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree almost completely.
I love that our infield defense should be improved that it may actually help our run prevention this year. I’m looking forward to local ‘hustle and grit’ guys trying to find out a reason why the Rangers pitching staff looks better next year, even though it’s composed of mainly the same people. Unfortunately, I don’t think the improvement will be enough to win the division.
But I disagree with you about Kerry Wood. I’m glad that we didn’t sign him. I don’t think the bullpen is one star reliever away from being an excellent bullpen, which is what will be needed to carry the 3-4-5 starters as they develop. The bullpen was fantastic in 2004 (aka “that one year the Rangers were good”) and undoubtedly helped a mediocre pitching staff. This bullpen seems to be 2-3 pieces away from that quality. I would rather have seen them sign a few players like Jeremy Affeldt (2 years, 8 million with the Giants) and Juan Cruz (unsigned, though this would cost a draft pick as he’s Type A). Both could probably be had for a similar yearly amount as Kerry Wood’s 2 year, 20 million dollar contract.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 19, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See I'm the exact opposite when it comes to building a bullpen.
I think paying lots of money for complimentary pieces is insane. They’re far too mercurial from year to year.
I’d rather pay 10mm for one really good back end guy than 8mm combined for two good-but-not-great relievers, even if that really good back end guy has some rather serious injury risk to him.
Paying serious free agent dollars to get middle men is the absolute wrong way to go, imo.
I’m so glad that JD has steered clear of this course of action.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of defensive analysis. . .
. . . this hilarity came from Beyond the Boxscore.
wanted to use some stats to get an idea of which combo is better defensively, but I wasn’t sure what numbers to use, so I consulted Farhan Zaidi, the A’s top Numbers Geek (a phrase I use with all due respect, of course). He pushed me toward the ol’ FRAA at Baseball Prospectus.
Meh.
Disclaimer time: It’s entirely possible that this number is really meaningless, because Yuniesky Betancourt and Derek Jeter came up as the two worst shortstops in baseball. That would be the guy who won three Gold Gloves (Jeter) and a guy who a lot of people think is actually the best shortstop in the league (Betancourt). So don’t take this as the gospel. Anyhow, back to our original question…
Dismissing the usefulness of a stat because it doesn’t back up your preconcieved notions is logic fail.
Wow, the numbers back up what I thought in the first place. Guess that means these stats aren’t meaningless.
Even more blatant logic fail. This makes my head hurt.
Also: who thinks Yuniesky Betancourt is good? Let alone the best in the league?!
by philkid3 on Jan 19, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Betancourt was really pretty good when he first came up, but he's gotten a shit ton worse.
He can still make some really good “ooh and ahh”-type plays, but he’s no longer got much range.
Certainly not the sort of range to support his minimal plate skills.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh shit..
According to the Baltimore Sun, “word around the NFL” is that the Cowboys are targeting impending free agent Ray Lewis and are willing to guarantee him $25 million in a three-year contract.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ah shit?
He’s got 3 years left, right?
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More oh shit than aww shit..
I like it.. What is Zach Thomas’ contract status?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Zach Thomas is done
He has already said that he doesn’t want to come back.
by Anonymous New Guy on Jan 19, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ray lewis
has the biggest gut of any MLB I’ve ever seen.
He’s much slower at this point – maybe average.
not someone to blow your wad on. I really want a ball hawk. What about asoubageh ( I didn’t even try)
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to think the Raiders will franchise him
If not work out a long term deal. I’d like to see us go after the safety from St. Louis.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Per the Sacramento Bee
The Raiders will “almost certainly” place the franchise tag on Nnamdi Asomugha again this offseason.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love him.
And I certainly wouldn’t blow my wad over Lewis either, but I think he’d be an upgrade over Thomas.
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would die and go to heaven if we got Asomugha.
Though I hate the term “ball hawk,” and I also don’t think it really applies to him. At least as it seems people tend to use it.
Lewis is still good, just depends on what we’d pay for him.
by philkid3 on Jan 19, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmhmm.
3/25 is a little steep, but that uncapped year could save us, no?
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it really gonna happen, though?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what about Demarcus Ware?
that should be the priority
Next Year! We Swear!
by NothinG on Jan 19, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry is busy pretending like he can’t keep him if he lets Owens go.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Mavs talk
Kidd’s on fire in this game sinking 5-7 on 3’s so far. Philly got completely dominated in the 3rd quarter.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 19, 2009 1:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And don't forget
A huge dunk by Hollins.
“He’s an interesting kid…”
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who says that?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
12 minutes
4 PF’s
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was being
Facetious, but I think he’s got talent.
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got youth
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the Heat are trying to trade Marion for J. O'Neal
But also saw that Howard was the other option.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*Jerk off motion*
I want something more, or at least something more useful.
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we could pull the Heat's 1st round pick
I may dig it, given Wade’s injury history.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, but they have an actual GM, so they'd lottery protect it, or, at the very least, top 3 protect it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Did I see Donnie Nelson’s name on the list?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I see Devin Harris highlights I get closer and closer to adding him.
If I actually cared about the NBA anymore he’d be on there for sure, but I don’t really care about getting all emotionally invested in finding out who David Stern decides should be allowed to win, so… meh.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just think how great this team would've been if Cavery hadn't Jo-Joe the Idiot Circus Boy'd him...
Sigh x 2.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I always got the feeling...
…that the only PG Avery Johnson felt was capable of properly running his offense was Avery Johnson.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 19, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And he didn't stop with thinking that
He took the next step of actually NOT LETTING any of them actually do it.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you don't believe Avery
when he says the trade wasn’t his idea?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And after all that depressing "The Mavs effed it up" talk, how about some awesomely hilarious news from the world of Karmic retribution?
Best line?
She also says she has suffered "grievous physical, emotional and mental injury" from the STD, diagnosed in the fall of ‘07. (The infection is not HIV or a "killer thing," sources say.) Dwyane and his "paramour or paramours" are liable, she alleges.
Damn, Dwyade.
How much herpes you got, son?
HAHAHAHA!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dwyane, named a "Father of the Year" in 2007 by the National Father’s Day Committee, has gone "months" without seeing his boys, Siohvaughn says. His "failure to spend time with them… has resulted in the children at times being afraid of him; in fact, [son] Zion… does not recognize or know Dwyane." She wants sole custody, and support.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for making that class act a star, David Stern.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to punch Stern in the face
That asshole ruined basketball for me.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 20, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lottery protecting
it’s not that big of a deal. if you are in a tailspin, they are going to eventually get one of your drat picks – sooner or later.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Logic might suggest that
but what if they’d further protected the Nash pick?
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when the old regime...
…traded an unprotected first rounder to Boston for Eric Montross, AND swapped first round picks (dropping farther back in the first round) with the Celts for the privilege?
Sigh…
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 19, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We were just talking about that the other day. Ugh.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I do not remember that.
wow.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The unprotected first turned into Antoine Walker, iirc.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 20, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't looked but
I thnk that was the pick swap. I think Samaki went like 9 to them and Antoine went 6, where they would have been.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 20, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ron Mercer
was the unprotected pick.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 20, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Tracy McGrady went two picks later.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 20, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at that Samaki Walker pick
Picked in the next ten picks:
13 Bryant, Kobe
14 Stojaković, Peja
15 Nash, Steve
17 O’Neal, Jermaine
by Brett Perryman on Jan 20, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That draft was absolutely insane.
Right up there with the Jordan-Alajuwon draft and the Lebron/Mello/Dwyade/Bosh draft.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 20, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are they playing at 2 pm.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 19, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MLK
There is hoops on all day.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And now
The Mavs are letting the game slide away from them
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 19, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
done
tie game
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Mavs
pull it out their ass at the buzzer
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 19, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they will never win a blowout will they?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
13 wins
By 10 or more.
But your point is well-taken.
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
have they been able to rest their starters once this year?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Starters rest quite a bit. Now, if you mean can they rest their starters in crunchtime, the answer is most emphatically “no”.
by brettgardner on Jan 19, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This Lebron v Kobe matchup better not let down.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Word
Who hit it?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 19, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's pronounced 'hermon' correct?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jan 19, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you think
The Dirk-man!!!
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 19, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh i had declined to turn the game on
since i figured against the sixers up by 10 with a few minutes left, no point.
then i saw on the boxscore when there was 4.3 seconds left tie game so I switched over to watch the buzzer beater by dirk. very efficient basketball watching.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 19, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Saw this on MLBtrade rumors
The Marlins had late-December interest in Gregg Zaun, but $2MM was out of their price range. Frisaro says they’ve been exploring trading for Rangers backstop Max Ramirez (the price would certainly be young pitching).
Dont know if someone has already posted it
by BEW on Jan 19, 2009 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
those trade rumors are kind of old.
and I really don’t want to trade Ramirez at all. I’m not sure where he slots exactly but I want him on my team. Plus, trading him now I don’t think would be capitalizing on his full trade potential.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Jan 19, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I wouldn’t mind trading him if you get a premier arm back, but I don’t see any team trading that for MaxRam, since his future behind the plate isn’t 100% assured. I’d rather keep him around here.
by JBImaknee on Jan 19, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know where he should slot in: Starting Catcher.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Elvis scouting report
I am sure this has already been posted somewhere around here. Anyhow…
“A teenager raises his batting average 36 points and his OPS 95 points from first half to second is always going to raise some eyebrows.”
http://tinyurl.com/EA-scout-report
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 19, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i just he had maintained his 2nd half production
in winterball
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 19, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
He finished strong in the VWL as well. And I really liked his BB/SO ratio.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
EA in 2009
He could have a really ugly Apr and May. Maybe a sub.200 BA. However, his July And Aug could be around .280 before tailing off in Sept.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 19, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
ETA in
Majors
2010
Seems like so long ago when we were all thinking that…
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recent FanPosts
Big League Stew - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
- After locking up of AL MVP, it's time for Twins to lock up Mauer
- November means R&R for Raiders fan CC Sabathia and others
- D12: Honeymoon over for big Bobby Jenks and Ozzie Guillen?
- Timmy is so wicked: Lincecum's hair grows with his legend
- D12: Strasburg feels 'pop' in knee, scares Nationals to death
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
