Saturday a.m. stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 8:15 AM CST
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PrintSo the news today is still Ben Sheets related.
Jennifer Floyd Engel says the Rangers need to sign Sheets. She also says an announcement on a deal could come as soon as Monday...but then, she also says that Nolan Ryan makes all the decision for the Rangers now, so who knows how accurate what she says is.
Jeff Wilson, though, also says a deal could be reached by early next week:
It could be a busy weekend for Hicks, Ryan and general manager Jon Daniels, and an agreement could be reached by early next week. The right deal would be no longer than two years and worth no more than $16 million guaranteed, but it could escalate based on performance incentives.
"If your guarantee doesn’t have to be to the level where you felt like you had too much exposure, and you were able to build in a structure that he would be paid on the level that he pitched to, I think that would be the proper approach," Ryan said Friday.
Anthony Andro has a write-up of the Awards Dinner from last night.
And Mike Hindman has a blog post up about what has to happen for the #1 farm system to turn into a winning major league team.
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And the Mets
still seem to prefer Perez to Sheets. Give me Sheets’ health concerns over Perez’ ups and downs any day, especially at the dollar amount and no. of years Perez is likely to get.
Sheets’ back and other injuries are scary, but every inning he’s out there is an inning that Mendoza and Nippert aren’t.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Yah, I'll take the ace pitcher whose performance is erratic due to injury concerns over a not-good pitcher whose performance is erratic due to him being a sucky self-imploder only loved by Ed Coffin and maybe his own parents and/or siblings.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 24, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Ollie
Cheated on me and eloped to the Least Coast. I’ll just have to compartmentalize that ……….and move on.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jan 24, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Let's hope and maybe pray
that the Ranger’s get this done today, the Met’s may drink some coffee and read Olney and wake up from their sleep-walk and say hey, it’s Sheets we really need.
by SanDiegoKev on Jan 24, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Sheets’ back and other injuries are scary, but every inning he’s out there is an inning that Mendoza and Nippert aren’t.
See, I have been kinda back and forth on the deal b/c of his health issues… but this just sold me. Good job.
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and I fail at replying
it’s 8:30am on a Saturday… gimme a break.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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Sorry, I plan on eating this kit-kat bar alone.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
Kinkos never printed what I was going to have hamilton sign
Even though they promised it would be ready.
So im skipping fanfest and staging an anti-kinkos rally.
the preceding post was a great success.
kinkos sucks
a printing place that can’t print bleed. they are retarded. printing there is painful.
Next Year! We Swear!
I am really curious
to see who has to go to allow this Sheets signing to happen. Nobody seems to be speculating on that in the press like they did throughout December, but surely it will be at least Blalock.
I dont know that someone HAS to go
A t the time it seemed like we might need a 3b and that sheets would be 15 million a year. With all positions filled internally and Sheets price dropping.. and the knowledge that millwood/padilla are only option years for 2010..
+ the whole hicks maybe selling the soccer club thing.
the preceding post was a great success.
good point
i think at the onset they thought they might have to pay for a 3B and/or a relief arm, but it now looks like 3B has been filled internally and that decent relief arms can possibly be had on an NRI (what about Keith Foulke? Orlando Hernandez?) so perhaps they can make it work.
Still, it wouldn’t surprise me to see them at least try to deal one of Cat or Blalock.
+ the whole hicks maybe selling the soccer club thing
if only that said + the whole hicks maybe selling the soccer club Rangers
Next Year! We Swear!
Hicks had a pretty big learning curve
But, you know, he could be a lot worse.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Dont tease me
with that last line. If sheets signs (and i think he will), would he be the most important FA pitcher the Rangers have ever signed?
I know Nolan ranks way up but with what this team is possibly in position to do the next few years this is probably the most important. Just look at this (i know everyone can picture it, i just want to type it out ha)
Sheets
Millwood
Padilla
Harrison
McCarthy
Dont underestimate how much better he will make the rest of the staff. He goes deep into ballgames which will rest the bullpen. He is finally that stopper. It would be nice to have him take the hill when the Rangers are in the midst of a 3-4 game losing streak.
by Michael Cave on Jan 24, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
Ken Hill wlas pretty important
I doubt this team wins its first division title without him….
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
it definitley makes the rotation look alot better
and when you think of our young guys coming up, I say you trade Padilla, move McCarthy to the BP because he’ll get hurt again and the rotation could look like —-
Sheets
Millwood
Feliz
Holland
Harrison
but, a rotation with Sheets and Padz/Millwood in contract years, this could prove to be an average rotation and help us to possibly compete in ’09, but i think that is unlikely.
Next Year! We Swear!
Don't say McCarthy to the bullpen.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The only sustained success that
McCarthy has had in The Show was as a reliever.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
AJM, He had 10 starts in 2005.
Key phrase “sustained success.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
And 19 starts in the minors in 2005 before that
You are saying he is capable of staying healthy while starting in the minors, but not in the majors?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
To this point in his career
McCarthy has not shown the ability to stay healthy enough to take the bump 30X’s in The Show. In his major league life (40 starts or so) he’s completed the 7th inning twice.
The kid does have some talent but the evidence available to us now demonstrates that his body doesn’t agree with him starting.
He wasn’t rode hard at all in 2006 and yet had all kinds of problems early in 2007. There should not have been issues with his 07 workload (101 IPs) affecting him last year but he ends up hurt in the first week of March ’08. Not in May or around the AS Break but the first bleeping week of March.
Is it because he’s been a starter the last two years? Who really knows but the evidence in front of us right now is that his sustained success and health in The Show has come when he has been a reliever.
Throwing this out there…Maybe he becomes our 5th starter (instead of MFing Feldman or Nippert) who swings between relieving and starting the first couple months of 2009 and is then reassessed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Only
3 “The Show”s so far in this thread.
You can do better than that.
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
When I was in college and it was
a cold 34 degree Saturday morning, I was still asleep.
Then again, I was into girls and went to frat parties where there were no rules and I usually wouldn’t get home until 4-5 am.
It’s too bad you’re a raging dork, gardener, because that’s a really fun place to go to school if you’re not.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Heh.
I love how you have this one bit that you cling desperately to.
In case I haven’t told you before (which I have): I graduated from Tech.
But by all means, keep pulling it out when I kick you in the nuts about your bullshit.
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Ooooooooooooh, you have a college degree?
It’s a fairly big club.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
x
I was into girls and went to frat parties
Because that is such an exclusive club that none of us ever experienced.
by FuturePants on Jan 24, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Well
Where’s your law degree?
6 months in and I’m already more successful in life than you. Maybe you should have been more of a dork and less of a fratty douchebag.
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Referring to starts as...
…“taking the bump” isn’t really necessary.
What do you think of mjh’s claim that McCarthy’s (and Hurley’s) injury problems are the result of Connor, not an inherent inability to stay healthy?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
It's very easy to
blame everything on Connor now and if mjh really said that, I think all he’s doing is regurgitating some bs fed to him by JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
no
Daniels never said any such thing about Connor to me and I was critical of Connor long before he was fired.
mjh,
Am I wrong when I said that you believe or have demonstrated in the past that almost all free agent pitching signings turn out poorly?
If so, what’s your take on Sheets?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
AJM, what do you think of Hindman's
claim that BMac & Hurley’s health problems were because of Connor?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
I have heard similar sentiments...
…from other sources. I think Connor bears some blame. McCarthy’s mechanics got out of whack almost as soon as he got here, and that probably contributed significantly to his injury problems.
Remember Kam Loe going down to AAA and getting his mechanics fixed with one side session with Andy Hawkins and Mark Redman?
Remember McCarthy talking about how a session with Ryan and Hawkins in August of 2008, where they got him back to pitching the way he was with Chicago, rather than as a “tall and fall” guy, had him throwing better than he had since he was in Chicago?
The only person I’ve seen really defend Connor’s work was Galloway. And I realize you and he believe that y’all are Speaking Truth To Power, but when you have guys like McCarthy and Hurley, who have no injury history whatsoever, who immediately start having injury issues once they arrive with the Rangers major league team, I think it points to a possible problem with the pitching coach.
And I think particularly with a taller pitcher like McCarthy, the pitching coach is more important on these issues because taller pitchers tend to be more likely to have their mechanics get out of whack. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that a lot of McCarthy’s injury problems since he’s been here, and his inability to perform like a top of the rotation starter when he’s been on the mound, are traceable back to issues with his mechanics, which Connor seemingly was unable to correct.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I also remember JD
saying right after Connor was fired that he thought there still might be a place in the organization for him.
Maybe he’s said it in the past but I don’t remember Galloway defending Connor or being a big fan.
You hate Showalter but he knows more about baseball anybody in here and he had Connor with him at several spots, correct?
I have no idea if Connor screwed up BMac & Hurley but he’s a very convenient person for this organization to throw under the bus.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
And fwiw...
…I don’t want him swinging between starting and relieving.
If he can’t stay healthy in 2009, he needs to be released. If he can stay healthy, he’s part of the plan going forward.
Jacking around with him going back and forth between the rotation and the bullpen is stupid and pointless.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Jacking around with young pitchers going back and forth
between the rotation and the bully didn’t seem pointless to the great Earl Weaver.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Sure
It would be one thing if it was someone trying to get their feet wet in the majors.
He’s spent a season in the bully. You are seeming to suggest that this would be the ideal way to keep him healthy. I’m saying that if he can’t stay healthy while being left in the rotation in 2009, it is time to cut bait with him.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
The Dodgers used to do the same thing with
young pitchers as well.
Doyle Alexander, GZahn, Rhoden, Sutton, Bob Welch, Doug Rau, Sutcliffe, Dave Stewart…there’s nothing wrong with the concept, especially with a kid as talented as McCarthy is plus there is a definite need on this team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
I'd cut bait with McCarthy
at this point if he didn’t have talent but this organization has a very long history of not respecting the actual talent they have.
I’ve never questioned his talent – his health is the problem.
You should only cut bait with pitchers who don’t have the ability to throw strikes or get batters out consistently – that’s not McCarthy’s problem.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Our need
Is to have our best starting pitchers in the rotation. When healthy McCarthy is our best young starter thats ML ready right now. Hes better than Feldman, Hurley, Harrison, Hunter, etc. And until Holland and Feliz are ready he will continue to be our best young starting pitcher. Like Adam said if hes not healthy then we should cut bait. But yoyoing him from bullpen to starter is not a good thing to do.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The Great Earl Weaver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQbN0jFo_k
Holy crap I forgot how funny that is (very bad language). Same here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl-4FSRYagc
You’re here for one goddamn specific reason.
What’s that Earl?
To f@#$ us!
I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun.
The great Earl Weaver...
also used a basic four man rotation with his long reliever (or even relievers) acting as a swing man in the fifth slot.
I don't think you cut him loose
I think the BP could help him if he was unable to stay healthy in the rotation….ie.—Kerry Wood
Next Year! We Swear!
But he was worse than his career ERA there..
Theres no real reaso to think the bullpen would keep him healthy. Its not like he faded after throwing 180 innings.
Now if mccarthy doesnt establish himself in 2009 rather it be by performance or injury, and harrison/feliz/holland just straight up surpass him as pitchers.. sure, he can go to then pen.
the preceding post was a great success.
Actually, in that case...
…he probably gets non-tendered.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
it is mainly about health for me
when he has pitched, he has been solid, but he finds ways to get injured. Once you get hurt, you are more likely to get hurt again.
The bullpen has revived K Woods carreer and could do the same for Bmac is he is unable to stay healthy
Next Year! We Swear!
if he can stay healthy
I’m all for him being in the rotation, but he has only started 27 or 28 games in the last 2 years, and I’m not going to hold my breath that he can start more.
Next Year! We Swear!
Seems like if it only takes $8M/yr guaranteed....
Milwaukee should be serious about bringing him back. Maybe Sheets is a little put off by their unwillingness to push hard to keep him.
In the Young and Sheets situations, we’re seeing some real tangible advantage in communicating to FAs of having Nolan on staff. I think that bodes well for next offseason.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
x
I think Melvin said earlier this week that Milwaukee hasn’t had contact with Sheets since the end of the season, and was looking to a season without him. I think Sheets was irked off by the Brewers going after CC at the end of the year than him, their pitcher whom was homegrown on that ball club.
Is it Spring Training Yet?
MAKE IT HAPPEN
This thing is getting legs….
I know it’s been mentioned before, but make it a 2 year deal back loaded, third year club option with like 15mm…..or as JFE says, “Stupid money” or was it “dumb money”…word JFE. I am going to lunch with 2 friends who are serious Ranger Hatin’ Genero Fans….
You know the Gallo-bot types.
I can’t wait to hear their take on the possibility of signing Sheets…..
PULL THE TRIGGER!!!
Dead heads and frog legs, mmmmmmm cake mix - Bushwick Bill
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 24, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions
I wonder if signing Sheets is going
to be considered some kind of Hindmanian Violation (signing a free agent pitcher) in building a baseball team?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
With Padilla and Millwood
coming off the books next year we’d only have Sheets as a FA (I think)…unless Millwood hits his IP clause thingy.
So if we’re using Hindmanian Principles, I don’t think it’d be that big a deal.
Dead heads and frog legs, mmmmmmm cake mix - Bushwick Bill
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 24, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
I thought Hindmanian Principles stated that all
free agent pitcher signings are bad, no?
I’m on board because this has a chance to help the team but my bar of expectations are fairly low because of past health problems.
I’d like to see two years plus a club option so Sheets takes ownership on pitching for this team and doesn’t make this some kind of mercenary situation.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
I think the Hindmanian Principle stated that
Free agent signings weren’t the be-all, end-all to building a rotation. He never said (at least not in the article I read about ERA leaders not generally being free agent acquisitions) that a team should never sign a free agent pitcher at all.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
My recollections are
that Hindman said that Tom Hicks spends enough money on payroll and that this is a legitamite middle tier market (despite the bulging population, magnitude of sports interest, top 5-10 status of Stars, Mavs, Cowboys) plus he said that almost all free agent pitchers turn out to be bad signings.
Maybe I’m wrong but those are my recollections.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
You are wrong
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 24, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Not really sure
if this would really count. I think he meant more like spending ridiculous amounts of cash on FA’s. Heck I don’t know…MJH, you out there? Clarification needed.
The money risk is relatively low (but it ain’t my coin) and the reward potential is ridiculously high.
I agree on your contract take.
Just Sign Him '09
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 24, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Trying not to count the chickens before they hatch, but
It’s hard not to when writers are discussing when the deal could be announced, not just that a deal is possible between the parties.
Seems to be pretty strong language that this isn’t just a Zito/Hunter situation and this might actually get done.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
I don't know what to believe
because the Rangers have been used (they’ve also used failed negotiations as pr “we tried” ploy) in the past plus I’ve read where both NY teams are lurking as well.
Perhaps it is close to being done and the Rangers are waiting until Monday (bad news is usually sprung on weekends) to announce the signing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
yes, the 2 NY teams worry me
and the Rangers’ history for being used to get a contract elsewhere. We’ll see. If it hasn’t happened by early next week, it probably won’t happen.
Next Year! We Swear!
The only thing that's different with
this is that this story is gaining momentum. The media seems to have been spoonfed some behind the scenes off-the-record info that this is going to happen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
That was my conclusion
When I saw this morning that two separate writers (JFE and Wilson) are talking about WHEN this deal could be announced, not IF it could happen.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
I get a little bothered
When writers jump the gun (even when they are right). JD, Ken Williams, Beane, even Theo make some of their best deals quietly. Best deals meaning best return for the trade or the money.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jan 24, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
The other part of this is that when Hicks
was truly serious about signing a free agent in the past, it happened quickly and without any ramp up of speculation.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
ARod?
Juan Gonzalez?
Chan Ho?
There was a lot of talk about the Rangers interest in those guys leading up.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
There was a lot of ramp up with ARod
(because he was one of the great players of his generation) but I don’t remember a lot of ramp up with Juando, the Ho or Palmiero.
Essentially Raffy told him 5 years / $ 45 million and it was done the next day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
How often does the media blow something out of proportion though
then another “surprise” team jumps into the mix
Next Year! We Swear!
I am trying not to get my hopes up.
I voted “no” in the earlier poll, too. I’ve been thinking over this, and I think my feelings go back to someone’s comment on an earlier thread.
Last year it got pretty old looking at the pitching matchup and automatically thinking “I hope we can score 10 or 12 runs tonight”. Our offense is awesome, but come on! They shouldn’t have to be scoring that many runs to barely win a game.
I’m afraid all this Sheets talk is false hope, but I would love it if he signed here.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
MLB Network
I am really getting tired of the Red Sox MLB Network and their Red Sox stuff. The Rangers have Fan Fest today and the Detroit is having Tiger Fest. I am sure other teams are having (or had) similar events this winter. The MLB Network is missing an opportunity for about 15 hours of programing. A few interviews with FO types, players and fans along with coverage of the events and you have a low cost 1/2 hour show.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
while I think thats a pretty good idea
MLB network has been doing fine by the rangers…
very recent nolan ryan interview, lots of talk on young/3b and vizquel, discussion about sheets and the rangers a couple times…
the preceding post was a great success.
The rangers have been well supported
on the Hot Stove with Victor Rojas, Nolan Ryan, John Hart (argh, yuck!).
But MOST ALL the other shows have something to do with the Red Sox, and that is really annoying. I think things will ramp up when ST starts and especially when the season gets underway. MLB Network has a chance to really make an impact with some nice programming this year.
I’ve really enjoyed the Ken Burns’ documentary and can’t wait for the 10th inning to come out which I think is very crucial, especially considering everything that has happened in the last 17 yrs — strike, HR chase, steroids etc…
Next Year! We Swear!
Be real
they do need ratings, and there are a hell of a lot more Red Sox fans than Ranger fans. Plus, the Red Sox have the history for shows like that and the Rangers show would be more like ER, or maybe MASH.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Much more like ER.
See the 99 & 04 bumps?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
And they're trying to win over the ESPN crowd
And the majority of “fans” (or band wagoners as I like to call them….) like the Red Soxs, so what better way to attract them to their network than by showing Red Sox programs. I’m sure everything will be back to normal once the season starts up….
Is it Spring Training Yet?
XM and the Rangers
I am sure that some of you are getting tired of me mentioning XM all the time, but in the past week they have had plenty of MY talk, Tom Grieve on the air, CJ Wilson on the air after he avoided arbitration, and Thad Levine on the air. They also do an update every thirty minutes, and the Rangers-Sheets meeting got a lot of coverage yesterday.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 24, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Merger
For two companies that merged, they are still pretty separate. To use the webcast of the radio, I go to www.xmradio.com (Sirius has a separate website). My player has XM written all over it (even the firmware says XM when I start the player up), and the channel listings are different. If you want the MLB, you have to subscribe to the “Best of XM”; if you want football you get the “Best of Sirius”.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 24, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'm well aware.
I was/am a Sirius subscriber.
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
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