Jim Reeves on Ben Sheets
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 1:50 PM CST
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PrintJim Reeves weighs in on the Ben Sheets situation at the S-T blog. Key section:
The Rangers might not be so leery of Sheets if they hadn't just gone through this flexor tendon thing with Jason Jennings last season. Sheets is trying to bounce back with rehabilitation, rather than surgery, but, like Jennings, he could wind up under the knife anyway.
That's why the Rangers want to structure a deal that would be laden with incentives, to protect themselves in case Sheets breaks down again. Sheets would like to pitch here, believe it or not, because he lives in Highland Park and would be reunited with pitching coach Mike Maddux, but if another team blows him away with a lot more guaranteed money, they'll pass.
That last half-sentence might explain why Sheets is still out there. He probably wants to make sure there isn't a 5 year, $75 million offer that he'd be passing up. If he's going to get a 2 year incentive-laden deal, that deal would be available if he signed in November, December, or now.
So from his perspective, it makes more sense to wait and see if someone panics and moneywhips him. But time, it appears, is starting to run out...
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Good stuff to hear
Sheets has been out there for a while with no money whipping happening which explains why he might be giving up on that now.
Git r done.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I really believe
The Rangers will sign him. I didn’t think they had a shot a few days ago but now the more I read about the Mets and Perez I really think the Rangers are the front runners right now. Hicks be damned!
Sheets or bust
I just can't see it
Sheets would have to have absolutely no other even ordinary offers to come pitch in tBPiA.
He (1) has potential injury concerns that could be worse off here and he (2) will be looking for another contract after this one. (3) Plus the Rangers aren’t likely to contend till 2011.
With those three factors any FA would be a fool to pitch here. For remotely similar money on 2 years I’d take any other team over the Rangers as a pitcher. Two years here would likely cost him a great deal of future money in a 2011 contract.
The only way it makes sense to come here is if the Rangers are contenders and no other contenders offer similar money or the pitcher is money-whipped.
Re: potential injury concerns that could be worse off here
That makes no sense whatsoever. What, it’s the water?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
You don't see...
Potentially more innings, potentially more pitches per inning as a potential concern for all pitchers, especially one who has significant current concern?
Even if it’s slight it’s still an increase.
Why would he
Have more pitches thrown here per inning than say another place? That makes no sense.
Sheets or bust
Reasons 2 & 3
Regardless, reasons 2 & 3 are big enough reasons for any pitcher with options to avoid a two year, reasonably priced deal and tBPiA like the plague.
We've even got his old pitching coach
Who should know him better than any other coach in the league. We should be able to take care of him just as well, (if not better because of Maddux) than anyone else.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
2011
Why do you think the Rangers aren’t likely to contend until 2011? I think there’s a very small chance this year, but a bigger chance in 2010. The other teams in the west have their own issues.
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We will not be going from a below .500-quality team in 2008 to a 90 win team in 2010.
It takes 88+ wins to be a real contender. Much less and one can’t count to make the playoffs.
So you don't think
They can build on what they had last year onto this year and contend in 2010?
Sheets or bust
No
They were a 76 2nd-order-win team in 2008.
The only way we compete for a playoff spot in 2010 is if we’re an 84 win division (which means we won’t be much of WS contenders) or our young pitching develops far, far faster than should be/is expected.
We have reason for optimism, but 2011 I think is far, far more realistic. Our significant young talent isn’t even in the majors, we can’t be expected to compete their first full year there.
I don't see why
they can’t add about 10 wins over two seasons. Hell, they could add 10 wins in one season with a little luck. Look at how different the outfield is now compared with two years ago. A hell of a lot could change in the next 13 months. The team has a pretty strong core of position players and a lot of pitching on the way.
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84 win team can't be much of a WS contender?
Tell that to the 83 win 2006 St. Louis Cardinals.
Once you’re in the playoffs, anything can happen
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
You're saying that
the Rangers are completely incapable of gaining 11 wins over 2 seasons from where they were last year? With the amount of youth on this team, I don’t know how you can say that as a guarantee.
And I think for the AL West, at least next year, you won’t need more than 88 wins to win the division.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Of course they’re “capable”.
I even said so: “…we [can] compete for a playoff…” “…develops far, far faster than should be/is expected” “We have reason for optimism”
I’m not interested in wishful competing. Yes lightning can strike. Great, I’m not sitting in the woods waiting to see it happen.
I want a truly competitive team. That’s an 88+ win team. That likely doesn’t happen till 2011.
I was responding to this:
We will not be going from a below .500-quality team in 2008 to a 90 win team in 2010.
It takes 88+ wins to be a real contender. Much less and one can’t count to make the playoffs.
There was nothing there that suggested you think it was simply unlikely, just definitively no chance of winning.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
These teams would like a word with you
2008 Rays +31 wins
2007 Rockies +14 wins
2006 Tigers +24 wins
2005 White Sox +16 wins
2004 Angels +15 wins
2003 Marlins +23 wins
by robert_d_wilfong on Jan 24, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
I’m aware things can happen. I’m more interested in what one can reasonably expect to happen.
I’d rather intelligently look at the team and where it left 2008 what it did since and what one can reasonably expect to occur given what we know about major and minor league talent.
Reason
Here’s someone who uses reason, and what that reasonable thinking says about the Rangers winning 90, which would be a quality competitor.
John (TX): KLaw, Rangers, 2010, any real shot at near 90 wins?
Keith Law: I think 2011 for Texas and 90 wins, unless the pitching comes even faster than I expect.
90 wins, but that's not what your first post said.
You said they were unlikely to contend until 2011. They do not need 90 wins to contend. LAA could post anywhere from 80-90 wins this year, as far as I see it. Oakland anywhere from 70-85 and the Rangers about the same. If the Rangers improve at all this year, they are likely to be contenders next year. That might not mean 90 wins, but it probably does mean between 85-90.
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So
do you think that any of these teams presented above had WS expectations prior to their breakout years?
by robert_d_wilfong on Jan 25, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Something doesn't jive here.
That’s two reports that mention a flexor tendon injury…but only from the local yokels at the Telegram.
MJH, who I would trust must more for accuracy, says this about 2008:
Late in the year, Sheets experienced elbow soreness — for what I’m reasonably certain was the first time in his career — and shut down for the playoffs when an MRI revealed a muscle tear near his elbow (but no ligament damage).
To my surprise, there is no history of ligament or rotator cuff damage. Just a series of muscle pulls and tears and a few other oddities.
And then Olney:
After Sheets strained a right forearm muscle at season’s end, he probably lost his chance, once and for all, of ever getting a deal comparable to a five-year, $82.5 million contract.
I’m calling bullshit on the ST, for lazy reporting/spreading non-truths, and shame on Revo for parroting the same.
Also, I haven’t read Carroll define what the injury was, only guesses as to what it was in September. If someone has a BP membership, they may know more than I.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Interesting...
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
OT: SBN wierdness today
Is anyone else having trouble logging in and getting SBN sites to load today? It took me several tries just to log in, the site told me my browser was not set up properly to accept cookies, even though it was… and are there really no recommended diaries right now?
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I had trouble for about an hour
When I finally got logged on there were no recent fanposts or recommended post just fan shots. I have recent fanposts back but not recommended.
Sheets or bust
503 Bad Gateway.
I had that for over an hour. And rec’d fanshot gone here too.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Right now the rec'd fanposts are gone
I swear, if SBN lost all that painstaking stat-quoting I did on those projections…
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"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Yeah, that just came up for me, too
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
They had some issues
They were related to the FanPosts widget. That’s why the “recommended FanPosts” are unavailable at the moment. They took them down to get SBN back up and running.
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by Brandon Worley on Jan 24, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Sheets
It would make sense that he wanted to hold out for a big money deal, but teams have more negotiating power now that pitchers and catchers are close to reporting the chance of him getting any worth while deal are slim.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
He could wait
Until spring training and see if a top pitcher get hurt, and then have that team turn to him and make one of those spur of the moment deals that tops out on high money…
Thats why this deal needs to be done now
Is it Spring Training Yet?
That's not a smart move for a player
to rely on some team giving him a big contract in ST.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I'm going to leap around like an idiot in the street when this happens.
Completely worth it.
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by Brandon Worley on Jan 24, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Well
being outbid has not been a bad thing recently, except maybe Matsuzaka. I’m glad they were outbid for Zito, GMJ and Torii Hunter. And Sheets is worth the injury risk as a certain price, but if a team comes in with a bid over that price,than, fine, good luck to him.
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Good point
Besides, those other contracts were much larger than the one that we’re speculating that Sheets would receive and for less guaranteed time.
24 January 2007
With all the talk about Sheets meeting with the Rangers, you may (or may not if you don’t want to get your hopes up) like to take a look at this article which was written on this day two years ago, and describes just how good Sheets can be.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 24, 2009 2:42 PM CST reply actions
I've had that article
in the back of my mind off and on for two years, more often this winter.
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So the rotation would be
Benjamin “wet bed” Sheets
Kevin “I like to” Millwood
Vicente “The Drunk” Padilla
Matt “She birthed a” Harrison
Would the 5 spot go to McCarthy? I think so. What else could they do with McCarthy? I dont think he can be sent down, nor should he. I dont think he should go back the bullpen. Feldman did a great job out of the pen in the past, let him do it again.
I think last years Feldman as a starter thing was more based on neccesity, not desire. I think the club will go with McCarthy as the 5 if he is healthy, otherwise Feldman.
Of course, if I could have my way, I would put Nippert as the 5. He has done everything to deserve a shot. If anything else, he should be the first person to get a shot when one of the starters gets hurt.
Oklahoma Rotation
Feliz
Holland
Tommy
Diamond
Luis Mendoza
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 24, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions
Oklahoma
Worst state in the union
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 24, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
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OklahomaCalifornia
Worst state in the union.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
having
just gotten back to ft worth from san fransisco, I am going to have to disagree with you on that one
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 24, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Well, to be fair, I've never been up to NorCal
I hear it’s nice up there. But SoCal is horrible – and this comes from a guy who’s grown up there
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
ya
isnt it basically just a desert?
And as a tourist I will say that san diego and san fran are both beautiful, if not extremely pricey
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 24, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
It's a polluted, overdeveloped and overpopulated desert
Populated by people who act like their driving in a demolition derby when they’re on the freeway. The only decent looking part of SoCal always gets pretty much destroyed when things get too dry in october/november and everything out in the hill and canyon areas burns down in some massive wildfire.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
Dallas
Not sure if any of y’all are from/in Dallas, but Dallas is devoid of anything worth a darn.
No trees, no hills, very little water, and it’s filled with the same vapid dopes SoCal is.
It’s a fun city if you’re 18-25, otherwise Dallas is a waste of space.
Coming from a TCU fan via Austin
Oklahoma is a nice state with great sceneary just not many jobs since it is basicaly an oilfield state.
Sheets or bust
wow
Looks like we have much in common my friend. I am a St. Michaels alum, current TCU student.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 24, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
You were in
my pre cal class last year, first with that bitch woman and then with the guy named patrick.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 26, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Haha indeed that was me.
I switched my major, and that class ended up not even counting for me. Fail.
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Same here
I went from business to Ad/Pr
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 26, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I was that guy who sat next to you
both semesters I believe
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 26, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I am a sophomore
go frogs.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 26, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
You point out that the addition of Sheets
makes this pitching system so so so much better. Allowing Millwood and Padilla to slide down a spot in the rotation and the #4 and 5 spots available for whoever is pitching well at the time chosing from McCarthy, Harrison, Feldman and Nippert and others later in the season.
Injuries, which are almost a certainty for any team, any season would be better managed due to the depth of MLB ready starters and NOT rushing a hot young prospect (which IMHO has been the Rangers MO for years.)
Of course there is risk of Sheets going down and hurting the payroll options for next year. But sooner or later the team has to take a chance and this situation just appears to me to be the right move for the right price.
Does anyone know the contract status of Millwood and Padilla after the 09 season? Do the Rangers have an option of either or both of them?? Just curious at this point in time as I still hope that the farm develops successful starters from the talent avaialble.
Contracts coming off in 2010
Millwood needs to pitch 180 innings this year to trigger his $12M option.
Padilla – strict club option for $12M, $1.75 buyout
Blalock gone
Catalanotto – club saves $3M after $2M buyout of option they will not exercise
Benoit is likely gone
Those are the significant contracts, from Cot’s Contracts site. One possible addition: They may sign Hamilton long term, which would probably bump the 2010 payroll a bit, but perhaps save some dollars long term depending on how it’s structured.
I think that if they sign Sheets, one of Milly or Padilla is most definitely gone by the end of the year, but they may choose to keep the other for 2010. Otherwise you’d have Sheets and a lot of question marks and rookies to count on for 2010.
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tball as always you are awesome
thanks for the info.
PM
You need to go refresh your memory about Nippert. He is not a very go ML pitcher. I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t make the team.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/nippedu01.shtml
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Nippert showed some promise last September
He’s still got good stuff. If he doesn’t make the team, we’re probably going to lose him to waivers… so unless he has a really crappy spring, my guess is he’ll start the year in the bullpen. What kind of a leash he’ll have to perform is another discussion, but I’d like to see him get one more chance. He could be the pitching version of Nelson Cruz.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
“Nippert showed some promise last September”
Which inning? :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Not here to proclaim Dusty as our ace....
but he did sport a 3.97 in September and a 4.70 in July.
I would take those numbers. What he obviously needs to work on is consistency.
I agree with lonestarjon here.
I don't think most people remember Dusty
after the first week of the season. He was different after the call-up and pretty dominant down the stretch. The guy was touching 97
Lets not exaggerate too much here
He had a 5.37 ERA after the all star break.
62 hits and 26 walks in 53 and a third innings.
the preceding post was a great success.
Its not really exaggerating
No one is saying the guy is an ace, but he was looking much better. He’s got his problems to work through, but you can add me to the list of those who liked what they saw in him last year. At the beginning of the year, he looked like a lost cause. He was able too overcome his early struggles though and put together some great outings.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
That first week of the season
I don’t know if people remember but Dustin had gone through alot that week. Starting out by being DFAd by Arizona, which effectively made him stop throwing for a couple days at least in an organized fashion, then his wife gave birth to their first child and then he was traded to Texas and had to join the squad in LA. He had basically been completely out of any action for about 10 days when he was thrown into the game in LA and looked like crap.
Theres no denying the guy has some talent. Throwing upper 90s isn’t something everyone can do. If he can learn how to control it he could be a nice piece to a bullpen around here.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
big if
it’s about command, and some people just don’t have command of their stuff. I hope he can learn, but I don’t think so. I say we bring in Nippert after one of our other pitchers gives up a homer, then he plunks the next batter. That would be good use of an upper 90’s fastball and it would strike fear in the hitter.
Next Year! We Swear!
I really likie his potential
but in the end, guys like these are always around. teases.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
NIppert actually has OK numbes as a starter vs. a reilver. That is an improvemennt that I would not want to waste by not giving him a shot as a spot in ST.
Actually his numbers are a lot better as a starter than a reliever.
Overall ERA
As Starter 5.63
As Reliever 7.03
IP
As Starter 32
As Reliever39.2
BB
As Starter 13
As Reliever 22
SO
As Starter 29
As Reliever 26
BA Against
As Starter .277
As Reliever .331
More K per 9, less BB, better BA against lower ERA and lower WHIP. He is better as a starter across the board.
McCarthy has options left, Feldman and Nippert do not. The Harrison, Nippert, Feldman battle will the most interesting from ST if Sheets is signed. The only way I see a fix is to trade somebody or put Feldman or Nippert in the pen. The problem is Nippert is not really a good reliever.
Two things
All I remember was a ok long reliever, and a good 4-5 starter to end last year. He reminds me of Nolan in that he has an explosive fastball, ok breaking ball and change, but he doesnt know how to use them, doesnt locate well all the time. I could see Nolan helping him a lot, maybe turning him into something.
Second, to the comments below, I think Harrison has the job locked up. Unless he is injured, or completely and utterly ineffective in spring training, he will be the #4 guy after Sheets comes on. The only debate is on the number 5 slot really, and its be Feldman and Nippert battling it out. Maybe Diamond has a shot if he is dominant, but I doubt it. If Harrison just fails completely, then Feldman is #4, Nippert #5.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 24, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Padilla's not a drunk
Kind of an irresponsible thing to say…
I'm just killing time until I'm reincarnated.
This is why a bigger contract is necessary
than the 2 years / 18 million that we saw bantered around yesterday.
I really think that Sheets isn’t signing in Texas for less than 2/20 guaranteed with at least the potential to get it up to $16 / year if fully healthy. Simply put, there is no reason for him to sign for anything less. He can probably get $10 million guaranteed from someone, and most teams will amp up incentives (because who wouldn’t pay $16 for a healthy Sheets?).
Quick trivia
1) Of all Rangers starters that pitched at least 20 innings in 2008, who had the highest and lowest swinging strike %?
2) Of all Rangers relievers that pitcher at least 20 innings in 2008, who had the highest and lowest swinging strike %?
Frank Fancisco highest reliever
CJ Wilson lowest reliever.
Starters I really have no idea.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
No way its CJ
Best reliever: Frankie
Worst: Wright
Best starter: All bad, dunno.
Worst starter: Mendoza
the preceding post was a great success.
Only reason I say CJ is I seem to remember him having a really tough time missing bats
I dunno. Wright’s a good guess as well, maybe Benoit too.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
Jennings
I could have sworn that Jennings had just over 20 IP, so I am going with him for worst SP.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 24, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Answers
Starters:
Best: Dusty Tits (11.2)
Worst: Jennings (4.4) – Ponson is almost as bad (4.8%)
Relievers:
Best: Franky and Benoit (both 13)
Worst: Eddie G (5.8)
bigskinny dude is closest and gets a free rec
I was going to flag baseball jesus for listing Benoit as one of the worst, but decided against it out of fear and self-preservation.
by the way
CJ 8.8%
Wright 6.9%
Mendoza 5% as starter, 7.6% as reliever
Interesting.
Thanks.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Interesting
As bad as Benoit was, I figured he would’ve struggled to miss bats, guess not…
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
his tendency to miss plates
is what really did him in
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jan 24, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Best starter: Nippert
Worst: Mendoza
Best Reliever: FF
Worst:Eddie G
by bigskinny on Jan 24, 2009 4:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
He actually sucked in the second half
Kinda the same exact thing happened with him as with Eric Gagne, though: we traded him just in time to avoid the actual meltdown.
But beyond that, he didn’t miss many bats even when he was doing well. Kinda hard to do when you can’t throw any harder than 85.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
Was at FanFest
and at the Jon Daniels Q&A…
The only thing I can confirm that Kason Gabbard will be moving to the pen….
however, I really got the sense that a Ben Sheets signing is imminent simply from his tone and how he was constantly speaking about the possible addition of another starter…
in some of the later Q&As players were talking about a possible signing from the perspective that it was a foregone conclusion….
Bobby Jindal '12
They're announcing Monday at 3.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
If JD and the players were really intimating that it's a foregone conclusion
That would certainly jive with the tone of the talk in the Startlegram this morning.
Dear Lord, I hope this is true.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
OC says Monday's are a good day to make an announcement
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Nope.
Tomorrow morning the preacher at your church will turn around and BAM! It’ll be JD with his ever so cool sunglasses. He’ll say please put your bibles down and raise your foam fingers in the sky, because the rangers, that’s right I said it, let me say it again. THE RANGERS! OH LORD praise him. have signed the one and only BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN SHEEEETS! LEMME HEAR YOU SAY AMEN.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Jan 24, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
And then the organist will
launch into Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
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Perfect.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Just Sign Sheets!
Hicks and JD have pissed away a lot more money than is involved in this deal.
Low cost-very high ceiling. If Sheets gets hurt, you’ll hear nothing about it from me.
I'm just killing time until I'm reincarnated.
I'm starting to see rumors.
Of the Yankees turning their attention to ben sheets. I don’t know if that’s true, it scares me a little. We need to get this deal done by next week sometime, if not he might go to the damn Yankees.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
MLBTR or something that I read
Said the Yankees were interested but only one a one-year deal, and it didn’t seem likely that Sheets would even consider that.
Not to say that the Yankees’ interest level can’t change, but that’s the last I saw.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
Leverage for Petitte, maybe
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Heyman
This little blurb by Heyman states that the Yanks are talking to Sheets as well as Pettite, so I am guessing this is just leverage. More interestingly, it says the Rangers have met with Sheets twice. Does anybody know if the Thursday meeting was the first or second meeting?
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 24, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
In other news
I just saw that William Zantzinger died a couple of weeks ago.
Dylan fans will know him.
And this is more apropos
Oldest living former major league dies…this dude played with Ruth, and Gehrig, and Fox, and Grove…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Saw that on Fan graphs
the audio was pretty cool to listen too.
The old fella was pretty sharp even towards the end
R.I.P.....
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
not sure if this was mentioned
the Sheets “wants” to play here bull
While the Rangers have met twice with Sheets, the Yankees are one of a few teams considering the talented righthander.
one of the NY teams are going to land Sheets. Article Here
Next Year! We Swear!
i don't know how you got this photo of me
I think I need a restraining order. lol
Next Year! We Swear!
Sheets vs. Pettite
I think the Yankees are more likely to sign Pettite and the Sheets talk is both negotiating and due diligence. This mlb.com article is one of a couple I read this weekend that says if the Yankees don’t sign Pettite, they are more likely to “fill the spot from within” than sign another free agent.
http://tinyurl.com/c7nv87
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