This day in LSB history

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2009 6:00 PM CST Comment 31 comments

Three years ago today, we talked about the Orioles giving Jay Gibbons a four year, $21 million contract, and the problem with overpaying marginal players on multi-year deals.

Gibbons, incidentally, was released before the 2008 season, with two years left on his deal.

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I like the kevin mench comparison in the comments

Things have gone about the same for them since.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jan 24, 2009 6:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Is Jay still

trying to make a comeback ?

by Keyser Soze on Jan 24, 2009 6:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yes...

signed a minor league deal with the Marlins.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 24, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks.

Of course right after I typed that I saw the stories from around SBN.

by Keyser Soze on Jan 24, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

a little embarassed by my comment

but then again, we did overpay for MY for what I think were very similar reasons.

But I guess the thing that I was saying is I can see why this happens – but now that it has happened to us, I really don’t like it.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2009 6:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ot: Slumdog Millionaire

was fantastic.

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
The Wrestler

by Longhorn on Jan 24, 2009 6:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

going to see it here in a few minutes

I’m expecting alot, so I hope I’m not let down.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 24, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OK

just got back to the house.

Excellent, excellent movie.

Lived up to the hype.

Go see it if you haven’t.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 24, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree,

and that scares me….

;)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I may be biased because I’m Indian, but it was one of the best I’ve ever seen

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by hinduplaya on Jan 24, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you are?

"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland

by chrisR on Jan 24, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

check teh screenname

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by hinduplaya on Jan 25, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with

that since I am also Indian.

"Nobody knows how to feel right now. It’s like Jesus came down from heaven and shot Santa Claus." --ghtd36

by coolaid on Jan 25, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

THis is interesting

Yanks are interested in Sheets

yeah yeah, yanks get whatever they want (maybe), but, if they sign sheets, would that make it more possible for a Salty/Hughes trade?

What would you rather have, 2 years of Sheets and Salty or Hughes for several more…?

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
The Wrestler

by Longhorn on Jan 24, 2009 8:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I would rather have Sheets and Salty

Only because I don’t think the Yanks will give up Hughes weather they sign Sheets or not.

Sheets or bust

by boomer1 on Jan 24, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't really see the Yanks wanting Sheets

I think they are going to get Pettitte and roll with a rotation of CC/Burnett/Pettitte/Wang/ and Hughes or Joba filling it out. I just don’t think the Yankees are really interested in adding another starter to their rotation on anything more than a 1 year deal with Hughes, Joba, and Kennedy around to fill out the bottom of the rotation (and 2 of them have pretty nice ceilings). I think its more likely that Heyman is just spreading that rumor because Sheets’ agent told him that, not because the Yankees have that much legitimate interest.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 24, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Yankees intentions are....

to sign every available free agent on the market. That means that you and I have a shot at making a major league roster this year!

by mrichardson70 on Jan 25, 2009 2:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

Pittsburgh, here I come.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 25, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think so

Hughes would still be the ideal hedge to Sheets getting hurt.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 25, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, that logic

is like saying that if the Rangers sign Sheets they would be more willing to deal Feliz.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 25, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

there has been talk about trading hughes, there hasn’t been on the Feliz front. Not really the same situations.

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
The Wrestler

by Longhorn on Jan 25, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No, it's the same

to me. Most of the talk I’ve seen about trading Hughes is baseless rumor. Boston is not trading Buchholz just because they’ve signed someone, the Yankees aren’t trading Hughes just because they’ve signed someone, etc.

If they feel the return is value for value they’ll trade him. They will not trade him because they feel he’s some kind of surplus arm.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 25, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The thing is

if you’re the Yankees and you sign Sheets and give him a rotation spot, you have to have a backup plan. That backup plan can’t really be another established veteran starter, because you don’t have a spot for him. It has to be someone with options and someone who will either accept potentially moving up and down between the minors and majors or someone who doesn’t have a choice. Where are the Yankees going to find someone who could perform that role better than Hughes? Signing Sheets and then trading away his ideal backup plan would be very foolish for the Yankees’s situation, and I don’t think that they’re foolish. As your podcast guy says, it’s about the margins for the Yankees, and that would apply to both Sheets and having someone as promising as Hughes waiting in the wings.

Now, if they were to sign someone like Oliver Perez, who doesn’t have the injury concerns that Sheets does, okay.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 26, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ian Kennedy

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 26, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Again, that’s kind of like us saying that we’d trade Feliz because we have Tommy Hunter.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 26, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just sayin...

Have they given up on Kennedy already?

by tyd3311 on Jan 26, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sadly frank catallanotto

is another good example of this

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jan 24, 2009 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

No where near as bad as the Gibbons signing turned out though

luckily for us.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 24, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just wish we could

release Cat with time left on the deal. I just would rather have the bench spots occupied with folks who can be defensive subs, rather than a platoon PH/DH.

Get off my lawn.

by DJCahill on Jan 25, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If only this were the NBA

Cat would be a good expiring contract to deal.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 26, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

If only bad contracts were a good thing! The Rangers had plenty throughout the ’00s to deal. CHP, MY, JuanGone, Cat, the list goes on, and on, and on.

Get off my lawn.

by DJCahill on Jan 26, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs