Ben Sheets rumor update
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 27, 2009 4:52 PM CST
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PrintAccording to Richard Justice (on 1560 AM in Houston about 5 minutes ago), what he's hearing is that the contract terms the Rangers are looking at with Ben Sheets are 2 years, $20 million.
Take that for what it is worth.
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Ben Sheets should...
take it for what it’s worth… 20 million dollars.
I guess you heard Fat Joe left Atlantic.
2/20?
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
by LSJ on Jan 27, 2009 4:53 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
This.
rec.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Who is Dick Justice?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
That guy annoys me every time I hear him speak.
But I hope he has good sources and hes right.
+ an option year.
Now if only JD wern’t in another country…
the preceding post was a great success.
This is a serious question.
Can’t they sign someone even when they’re not here? also when do they get back? Friday?
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
Nolan's back on Wednesday and JD on Friday.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 27, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 27, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Tienen máquinas de fax en Venezuela.
They could just fax the offer & signed contract, happens all the time.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
They have a jet to go back and sign someone anyways
so I don’t think it’s a big deal.
FOR MANLY LOVE BE HERE MARCH 25TH AT 2:15 AM SHARP
I think they could agree
to an offer in principle, then do the physical and paperwork later.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Nah, I think someone said earlier this week
that they want to have the physical done before they agreed to an offer.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
They're not going to do
anything this week, or at least, it would surprise me.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I can't see Sheets
taking a physical before an offer is made. It hurts his position. Also, if word got out that he took a physical and then no offer is made by Texas then he is toast. He might be able to get a NRI by someone but that is it.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Yeah
An offer has to be made first that both parties agree upon, then the player takes the physical. If the player doesn’t pass the physical, they would take back the offer. It would be stupid for Sheets to take it before, but his agent is smart enough to say no to the physical beforehand
Is it Spring Training Yet?
NRI?
Nolan
Ryan
Inspection
?
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by red shoe ranger on Jan 27, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously?
Non Roster Invite
Google is your friend...
Previously on 24...
by Kevin McBrayer on Jan 27, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously
Never
Reply
Intentionally
.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 27, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
+ an option year
that’s what I’m hoping for. Control of him for 10 and 11 is what would really get me hoppy-cited.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
2 years 20 million
sheets should be all over that…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
p-p-p-pleeeeeeease
This could mean a semi-decent-maybe-mediocre-halfway-respectable rotation again!!
In this market...
if true… if offered… with his injury history… Sheets would have already signed.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Yah I don't think that offer's on the table yet.
I like this quote from today:
“You can see players out there that most people would like to have,” Ryan said. “But I don’t think the players have adjusted their requests to what the market seems to be.”
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 27, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
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"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Well, they're gifs anyway.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 27, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
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"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
always include a subject line on posts with .gifs so they can be closed.
the preceding post was a great success.
Agree, put an x or something.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
wow
never knew you close a comment that way. Really speeds things up on my old home computer.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
I love
this show. Glad it is getting big attention with the after-Superbowl show. We need the gif of Andy punching the wall for the GTDs, whenever Wash makes a pitching decision someone doesn’t like.
Sorry for the ignorance
but does this mean that this is what the Rangers are looking at offering or this is the price that Sheets has given them to look at?
well no.
If he denied that…then that’s no good cause I doubt we’ll give him any more than that. But if we might offer him that….then that is good.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
my thinking
is that is what the rangers are looking at offering him, which i would say take it dude, give the rangers some hope of a good rotation and please stay healthy
Incentives/Option year
Those two things have to be the key negotiating points with Sheets and the Rangers (or any team for that matter). And if these numbers are being discussed, then you have to think the incentives/option year are the only thing holding this up.
It’s either that or Sheets has no intention of signing here and/or he and his agent really think he would get more guaranteed money than that.
Don't you ever damn call here again
pass word to Tom Hicks that I’m good with that deal, in case that’s what’s been holding things up.
by alon91 on Jan 27, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I think...
This isn’t a bad deal but they can get better. I would offer 2 years with a mutual option on the third year. 6 million a year with incentives up to 12 million. If he performs well enough for the 12 million he’s worth it, if not he cost you less than Hank Blalock and you can get rid of him before 2011 when you rotation should be full of young guys.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
ReproMan now!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Do they always have this live video?
Or only SB week.
FOR MANLY LOVE BE HERE MARCH 25TH AT 2:15 AM SHARP
Only during big weeks.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Eh...the guy didn't catch on!
Or get pissed….FAIL!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Who's running the camera?
It’s just hovering over random female ass, heh.
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Nicole is very cute.
And Corby is drinking a beer…nice.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Everythings bigger in Texas
especially contracts
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
OT: Varitek deadline
I’ve stopped trying to follow fanpost etiqquete rules, so I’ll just mention it here since I don’t see it elsewhere.
OT:
I love vegies.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
Fanshot.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Woops. Didn't see that.
My apologies.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
If Ben Sheets
Do we see Millwood/Padilla gone soon?
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
No...
If no one wants a guy like Sheets why would they want Millwood or Padilla, best bet is All-Star break for players. Keep your fingers crossed they might be a little surprising this year.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 27, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Signing Sheets
and trading for Millwood/Padilla are different issues entirely. I’d imagine most people are concerned with Sheets Flexor Tendon with regards to injury issues.
Neither Millwood nor Padilla have those type of concerns and are both around the same cost as Sheets
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
Still..
No one wants them.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 27, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Does it make sense for a team like the Dodgers, who need a pitcher, to trade for someone like Millwood when they could get a better pitcher in Sheets at almost the same price?
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 27, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Depends
on their feelings about the injury issues. Do the Dodgers feel like they can compete for their division this year? Millwood is durable, he will give you at least 25 starts and most likely 29+. Sheets is clearly a better pitcher but do you want to risk him going to down for the entire year or possibly two years at a hefty price. Plus Millwood’s is at the end of his contract.
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
Not with Hurleys injury
When Hurley was healthy part of the reason people were saying one of them had to go was because otherwise we would have to start two of our young pitchers in OKC and they wouldn’t get as much ML time this year. Now that Hurley is out only one would have to start in OKC and would still get plenty of ML time you would think.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
BEN SHEETS WAS AN 8 WAR PLAYER IN 2004?!
I don’t remember his season that year at all. That’s bananas!
Anyway, 2/20 is reasonable even if he gets hurt. He’s been worth that every single year of his career.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
BUT I THINK BEARS CAN SENSE THE MENSTRATION
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
by Heebs on Jan 27, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This news gives me renewed optismism after the 1 year stuff we got yesterday.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I really hope
we can get a team option for the third year. That is the year he could help us to the playoffs as our younger players get their necessary experience.
by Michael Cave on Jan 27, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
+1
I’m pretty excited about the possiblity of Sheets in the rotation. I can live with Sheets/Millwood/Padilla at the top of the rotation. That will be the most experienced top 3 of the rotation I can remember this club having in a long time.
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
I take that back
I am now recalling the hey day of Kenny Rogers/Chan Ho Park/Pedro Astacio. Now those were good days.
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
You know
when (not if, please please please) we sign Sheets that front 3 will be the most well respected front 3 we have had since the playoff years.
by Michael Cave on Jan 27, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
Probably Moreso...
Neither Helling nor Sele were at Sheets’ level, and Millwood has done more in his career than either too. Padilla is easily on par with the Burketts of the world.
I really hope...
His arm doesn’t fall off next week
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
Doesn't this contradict...
what we saw yesterday for TR on the team site about only wanting to do a one year deal? How much truth to this can there be?
I’d still like it to be 2 years with a team option for a 3rd though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
its hard to know what to think of sullivans info
At the same time I both believe him more than others because he has to have some good sources… and question him because he could be saying what the org whats out there.
the preceding post was a great success.
yesyesyesyes
PLEASE DEAR GOD PLEASE
not that I’m getting my hopes up or anything…
This is starting to move into the realm of Salty/Buchholz
in terms of nothing happening.
Please make something happen soon. I was content with 2/24, with a team option for a 3rd. 2/20? Yes please. Add a team option for a 3rd year @ 15 mil. or so.
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Maybe...
F-Cat, Millwood, Blalock and Padilla will disappear like the island
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 27, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
The difference is...
…Salty/Buchholz isn’t realistic. Sheets signing is.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 27, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
I just read that
last sentence like 3 times. I know he has injury risk but wow i still think it would be an exciting day in Rangers history.
by Michael Cave on Jan 27, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
And if the Mets sign Perez?
I’d say that goes up to 85/15.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Fair enough
just had to vent for a moment on all the stories.
I probably should have clarified and said “Salty to Boston”
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Scott Feldman for 2010 AL Scott Feldman
For those who heard Justice
Did Justice make it sound like Sheets wants 2/20 and we’re considering that? Or that we’re looking to get a deal done if Sheets will take 2/20?
I can’t tell from the way Adam wrote it up — but my guess is Justice said it that way, hence Adam’s “take that for what it is worth” comment.
Weren't the figures days ago a little lower than that? Like 2 years 18 million?
These kinda sound like his demands.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 27, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
2 and 20 would be fine...
if it is structured something like 8 million for ’09, 10 million for ’10, $14-$16 million for ’11 with a 2 million dollar buyout. That guarantees Sheets 2/20 and guarantees the Rangers a shot at keeping Sheets at a semi-reasonable price in ’11 (marginal cost effectively 2 million less than the list price because of the buyout price).
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