Rangers Mini-camp Wrap-Up
by jparks77 on Jan 28, 2009 9:30 AM CST
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Kasey Kiker on throwing off the mound at RBIA:
Let me try to explain this. It was a great feeling. My spikes really dug in the dirt. It was weird because I would throw all of my pitches and I would look down and there wouldn't be a hole. I'm not used to that. I'm used to something being wrong. I'm usually looking for something to be wrong like a rock or a huge hole. I looked down and it was like I had just started. It was perfect.
Michael Main on new Rangers pitching coach Mike Maddux:
I thought he was a great guy. He was really funny and he told a lot of jokes. Very personable guy. I know that I'm a young guy and not really close to the big leagues, but I felt like I could talk to him about things. He is a really good fit for the organization.
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Very very nice.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 28, 2009 9:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sweet!
Wreck it.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jan 28, 2009 9:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
long toss
What are the pros and cons? Why had they not been doing it previously?
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Jan 28, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
there are no cons
only pros for long toss. If they were not using it, that might explain some of their injuries-their arm was never properly conditioned.
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by randyd on Jan 28, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Long Toss
This is basically weight-lifting for pitchers. If done correctly, the best thing that can be done for your arm. Some young pitchers do over do it like some ppl over do it in the weight room.
I honestly cant believe this was not in place the past few years. Seems like a MAJOR lapse in judgement.
by Michael Cave on Jan 28, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It might have been in place
but it might not have been stressed throughout the minor league system. I’m going to ask Danny Clark about it.
by jparks77 on Jan 28, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is an excellent follow up question.
and you might ask him if it wasn’t stressed was there anything stressed in its place?
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by t ball on Jan 28, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coach Clark
just told me that the team always had long toss but it was more individual and now it is more universal throughout the system.
by jparks77 on Jan 28, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats good to hear
Is it Spring Training Yet?
by Smoak Some on Jan 28, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That...
Is good, the teams I always played on were big advocates of long toss and we rarely had season ending injuries. Some arms just are built for it, but long toss seems to fortify the ones that are.
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some arms aren't built for it...
Poor editing, my fault…
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
overload training (throwing weighted baseballs) is like weight-training for pitchers.
Long-toss is more like having hurdlers practice the long jump.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why would long toss
have any benefit whatsoever for a pitcher? do you see outfielders practicing throwing off a mound? let’s see – you’re throwing off flat ground, with a crow hop, throwing 100-200 feet on an upward trajectory. It’s also more stressful on the elbow.
by SteveP on Jan 28, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How is it any more stressful on the elbow than pitching?
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
asmi study
showed varus torque was greatest during 180 foot throwing.
by SteveP on Jan 28, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to have a look at this study.
Do you have more information than the conclusion?
During what part of the throw was varus torque the greatest? Did they measure trajectories of the throws?
What kind of mechanics did the participants have? Were they elbowy pitchers? Did they short-arm the throws? Did they long-arm the throws? What kind of crow-hop method was used?
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm purely speaking from the top of my head
so i do not know those details. you might want to email Dr. Fleisig for details on their flat ground vs mound pitching study done back in 1996.
by SteveP on Jan 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Long toss requires the build-up of explosive arm strength and flexibility that is needed for pitching
without the added stress of throwing off a mound.
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by rooster on Jan 28, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite.
It trains different muscles. It is not specific for pitching.
It isn’t necessarily bad, but aside from strengthening the shoulder girdle, it has very limited implications for velocity and pitch quality.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can...
Make arguments for either side, some people are huge advocates of long toss (see Nolan) others aren’t. The bottom line is some arms are built for the everyday stress of pitching, some aren’t. I have a hard time believing long toss could significantly impact a pitcher in a positive or negative direction. It helps with arm conditioning but as for velocity or control it isn’t a big factor. I think it is a good thing that they are implementing a “program” however. This will allow the team to evaluate their players on a level playing field.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All arms are built for it.
Not all arm actions are built for it.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
If we want to get nit picky, arm action is not affected by long toss other than repetition is it? Regardless of the type of stress (bullpen, live game, long toss) that arm action will be repeated and eventually lead to breakdown.
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly what I'm saying.
There’s nothing nit picky about it.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then let's shake hands...
And have a beer. Glad we are agreeable.
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
and I got your postings confused with SteveP, I just reread them and saw we had the same argument, my bad.
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're the expert, so I have some questions for you.
I’m surprised it doesn’t build arm strength. It seemed to do so with myself and other guys in high school baseball, but maybe I’m confusing the impact of long toss with growth spurts in late teen kids. Maybe at an advanced age when a player is physically mature it is more important for conditioning.
I’m not surprised to hear it has nothing to do with pitch quality.
My triceps were always burning after long toss. Would that indicate I was throwing incorrectly? It seemed to me that I was stretching and strengthening my triceps.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 28, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me? or No Name?
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you have expert knowledge, I'm happy to hear it.
Pretty much meant to reply to NoName in this case.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 28, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Triceps burning indicates...
That you were probably using your arm better than most people who throw baseballs. It says to me that your triceps was flexing powerfully which doesn’t happen for a lot of pitchers. You may have received more benefit from it than most do.
It does build arm strength, but it builds it for a different arm angle and/or trajectory. Long toss for general conditioning or as a warm-up is perfectly fine.
It’s not a null exercise, but rhythm and trajectory are typically very different between long toss and pitching.
I’m not against, it just won’t necessarily make you a better pitcher. It might make you a little healthier, though.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's not like it turned me from the guy that throws to 60 to the guy that throws 90.
I was still a scrub. Mostly, I’m trying to get a feel for how my experiences fit within the biomechanical insights that have occurred over the past 25 years.
One thing I do wonder is whether long toss is the type of thing that can provide the shoulder strength that helps pitchers avoid the types of injuries sustained by Hurley. Do you have an opinion on that?
It sounds as if long toss is a type of conditioning. The point of it doing it regularly is conditioning and there are other activities that could provide the same benefits.
Personally, I think long toss has a gee-whiz factor to it that makes it a more enjoyable conditioning activity than others. I would love to watch Feliz during his long toss sessions.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 28, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't really call it conditioning in the general sense.
It helps with range of motion and scapular rotation, but it doesn’t specifically condition for anything other than throwing the ball really far.
If over done, it will make you a better long-tosser than pitcher… and no one really cares how good you are at long toss.
Swimming is better for the injury prevention kind of shoulder exercise. The crawl and an abbreviated breast stroke both work the rotator cuff very well.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan's take on long toss
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 28, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot to add
check out “Nolan’s advice on long toss” and the other video clips. Interesting stuff.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 28, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost missed this since it went to the recs so fast
might need to move it to the front page or link it at least.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 28, 2009 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did Nolan Ryan show up with a football?
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
by willamos2 on Jan 28, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He had a cattle prod
and threatened to brand each of them if they didn’t show “a little zip on that fastball.”
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Scott Feldman for 2010 AL Scott Feldman
by Maximilian on Jan 28, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought...
….the cattle prod he toted around was for defense against snow monkeys.
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by ivysafety39 on Jan 28, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I don't understand..... Mark Conner is believed to be the reason Hurley and McCarthy are/were on the disabled list for as long as they will be/already have.
But wasn’t he regarded as one of the better pitching instructors in all of baseball? Seems like I remember hearing that somewhere…
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
It’s called scape-goating. The July 27th Hurley incident is weird, though.
I suspect Hurley kept saying that he was okay, and Connor made the mistake of trusting the youngster despite what the radar gun was telling him.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
There’s a reason they brought him back to the organization this off-season.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think...
…McCarthy’s mechanical (and subsequent physical) issues owe anything to Connor?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 28, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a case of McCarthy's mechanics finally catching up to him.
I haven’t seen anything (videos, photos) that suggests his mechanics were any different with the Sox than they are now.
Photos suggest that these elements have always been a part of his delivery:
-After “spreading out” during his stride, he sort of pops-up and gets really tall.
-Severe arm drag.
One thing I noticed in his mechanics after he worked with Nolan Ryan was his follow-through. When he finally got back with the big club last season, he was noticeably “spinning” toward first base. To the best of my knowledge he’d never done that before. It indicates a bit of a mechanical inefficiency but it might help his arm by getting his shoulder into a healthier position.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To think! We thought it was Conner's fault the entire time!
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And as for Hurley
didn’t he go through some mechanics changes in OKC last year well before coming up to Arlington?
Connor didn’t help, it seems, but he’s obviously not the sole or even primary problem in what caused injuries. People just hate hate hate to even think about it, but bad luck played a huge part in the high number of injuries the Rangers suffered last year. Better training and mechanics can reduce the chance of injury, but chance is a word you cannot completely eradicate no matter who your pitching coaches are.
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by t ball on Jan 28, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I recall that
they may have changed his hand positioning from the stretch. I think they also brought his hands up over his head during his windup. I don’t think those changes would have any effect on his shoulder.
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by RangerMad on Jan 28, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps not
I couldn’t recall the specific changes and I’m way too lazy to look it up.
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by t ball on Jan 28, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adair did make some changes.
After Hurley hit a rough patch in AAA, Adair made a change (I have no idea what the change was). A couple of starts later, he was pitching for the big club.
If we’re to blame that change, we’re looking at a period of about 50 IP which is still an incredibly short period of time.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC
The change was having Hurley bring his glove up over his head during the windup. I seem to remember Hurley saying something about it helping him keep his release point higher or something… don’t really remember where I saw that though. Might’ve been on TXR.com.
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by lonestarJon on Jan 28, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point was
he had gone through changes before getting to Connor, so it’s just as valid to blame that one as anything that might have happened in Arlington, and both are small samples of course. I think his mechanics might have been a little inconsistent with the changes, which may have exacerbated anything going on in his shoulder.
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by t ball on Jan 28, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right...
My explanation is based on the exacerbation of an existing injury.
For all we know, Adair’s change took pressure OFF of his rotator cuff.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
um
“I haven’t seen anything (videos, photos) that suggests his mechanics were any different with the Sox than they are now.”
really? there’s no way that can be true
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by ab03 on Jan 28, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
Do you have photos and videos that suggest there were differences?
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
perhaps I should be more specific. you’ve seen pictures claiming that there was a change correct? I know MJH had a couple of pictures that looked like there was change in leg stride, although the pictures were taken at two different times.
Are you just saying you’ve seen that and don’t think those pictures are conclusive?
(I know it would help if I linked the pictures but I’m sorry – too busy to look it up)
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by ab03 on Jan 28, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The pictures from MJH seemed conclusive...
… but when I went to actually write about it, I found a ton of pictures showing him in both positions in both uniforms.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure someone had
video up comparing the supposed changes last season. I can’t remember the site though.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on Jan 28, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never saw it.
If you find it, I’d love to see it.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
Being made to pitch repeatedly with a broken shoulderblade is something that can be squarely attributed to Connor.
by FuturePants on Jan 28, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting that Connor has x-ray vision?
That would be awesome.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not for him
He worked on a team with a bunch of dudes that looked like this
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by Gdawg on Jan 28, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't...
Photoshop me into Rangers unis anymore, please
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stripper Laird??
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 28, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
But I am suggesting when a player is pitching with a broken arm, the pitching coach should have sat him. That’s so many levels of fucked up that it really can’t even be defended.
by FuturePants on Jan 28, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What if the guy kept insisting his broken arm felt dandy?
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're kidding, right?
You need to know it’s broken before you can use it an excuse to sit someone.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
And it’s the coach’s responsibility to know when his player’s arm is freaking broken, rather than to trot him out there every 5th day for 6 weeks. No, I’m not kidding. That’s on Connor as much as BMac. You can’t honestly say that we all thought everything was fine with McCarthy over that period.
by FuturePants on Jan 28, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's vastly different
saying we all thought something was wrong is vastly different than saying “Hey, I think he has a broken arm and should sit down”. Do you really think they weren’t watching him AT LEAST as closely as we were? Quit the hindsight.
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by t ball on Jan 28, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And, it was a fracture that was very hard to detect, not a break.
It wasn’t like his arm was flopping along at his side. Sheesh.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jan 28, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
It took an MRI, not an x-ray.
That MRI had to be looked at by TWO different doctors before the stress fracture was found.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So
You guys are saying that despite every physical indication (regardless of what BMac was saying – it’s the coach’s responsibility to make evaluations over the pitching), him being so injured for so many sessions and starts was simply bad luck and that nobody is to blame? Because it took an MRI?
Seriously?
by FuturePants on Jan 28, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What physical indications are you talking about?
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, what?
You aren’t aware of McCarthy’s injuries and diminished abilities? Are you on the correct website?
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hes asking how the hell are you supposed to know a guy has a broken shoulderblade when the xrays show nothing
Is the bone sticking out of the skin? Is his arm flopping around at his side? if it wasn’t detected by an x-ray how the hell is a person supposed to know its broken?
And if you will go back and look at his gamelogs there isn’t anything to show an injury. he had a 3.50 ERA since coming off his June DL stint before the shoulderblade and had given up 3 ER in his previous 17+ innings before the injury.
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by bigsteve on Jan 29, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you know what the hell it is I do for a living?!
-Mark Connor
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by RangerFloppy on Jan 29, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Listen
If the position is that it is nobody’s fault and simply bad luck because the injury was hard to detect, that’s cool. It’s retarded, but if that’s your opinion I can deal with that.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So... you want to blame...
(1) Connor because he should have somehow known – despite the lack of physical indications, the lack of diminished performance, and the lack of anything showing up in x-rays – that McCarthy was pitching with a stress fracture in his shoulder blade
OR
(2) McCarthy because he was effectively pitching through pain and didn’t think his pain was indicative of a more serious injury
?
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 29, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They are both, without a doubt, to blame.
But our conversation has been about Connor’s fault. Giving Connor a free pass simply because the injury was hard to detect and because the player said he could throw is not at all reasonable. Connor was the pitching coach – everyone from the player to the GM to the Manager has to rely upon his judgment.
Connor’s judgment was “BMac is cool. Put him out there.” And that was irresponsible, unreasonable, and hard to justify, given the reality of the situation. Again, if you want to say it was reasonable for Connor to put him out the because it was hard to see the fracture on Xray, that’s perfectly fine. I sharply disagree, but opinions are what they are.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What was Connor supposed to base his decision on?
Since we’ve established that McCarthy said he was ok and that there was no drop off in performance… what would have been a reason to sit him down? Why should Connor have kept him from pitching?
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 29, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The coach can only ask the guy how is arm is doing.
He can’t submit his pitchers to lie detector tests. None of these pitchers want to jeopardize the millions they could potentially make. If McCarthy or Connor had thought the shoulder problem was that bad, they would have had the MRI way earlier than they did.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers pitch through pain?
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
i recall bmac saying he sought out help from Connor to review his mechanics, and Connor saying he didn’t see any big flaws compared with tape from his white sox days. i remember asking bmac about this during that brief time he was posting here, but i think those threads were all deleted.
by SteveP on Jan 28, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who gets the credit for changing Feldman's arm slot?
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I think it was Connor who changed it the first time. So I guess him both times.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 28, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I think the real
problem is that Conner was making the changes when they got to Arlington. If the Rangers want to change a pitcher’s delivery it needs to be done in the minors. I think I read that Maddux doesn’t make changes like Conner did. He goes with what got them there. Minor tweaks excluded.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Jan 28, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right but
Feldman is a separate issue.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 28, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Parks = Beast.
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by coolaid on Jan 28, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No
Beasticon.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
by lonestarJon on Jan 28, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked this, from Kiker
I’ll go even further. I’ll say that before I even got to the mound, before I even got to the clubhouse, pulling up in the parking [lot] is when I realized this is where I want to be. I looked over and saw [Kevin] Millwood’s car and I was blown away. In the clubhouse, there are flat-screen televisions everywhere. You could see Josh Hamilton’s locker with a brand new red jersey hanging in it and that just blew me away. It made me say that I’m really going to bust it because this is where I want to be. This isn’t [High-A] Bakersfield.
If that’s going to highly motative him to come to camp in shape, than I’m all for it. I’m just glad he didn’t run into Millwood, or they would have gone over health tips 101.
Nice Jason
Is it Spring Training Yet?
by Smoak Some on Jan 28, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That meeting might have included a...
“Don’t do what I did” segment. Don’t underestimate the wisdom of the regretful.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you change your signature upon me asking that question?
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
I changed it yesterday. The article was written Sunday night.
by NoNameOnCard on Jan 28, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear I just thought that up off the top of my head.
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by oc on Jan 28, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If only I had the talent level just to be an organizational minor league catcher so that I
could be a first-hand participant in these types of things.
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 28, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Durrett
Has the Q&A now linked up at the DMN blog.
Google is your friend...
Previously on 24...
by Kevin McBrayer on Jan 29, 2009 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
link?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 29, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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