A media trend continues
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 28, 2009 9:15 PM CST
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Jon Heyman has a story out about the best free agents still on the market. This part jumped out at me...
8. Garret Anderson. Here's another terrific hitter caught in a nightmare of a hitting market. He's been among the more productive outfielders in the AL over the last several years, and while he has seemingly been around forever, he's still only 36.
A terrific hitter who has been among the more productive outfielders in the AL over the last several years.
Major league left fielders, as a whole, posted a 110 OPS+ in 2008.
Anderson posted a 97 OPS+.
He had a 114 OPS+ in 2007, but a 94, 97, and 107 OPS+ in 2006, 2005, and 2004.
He's posted a park-adjusted league average OPS only once in the past four years. He's had an above-average OPS+ for his position only once in the past five years.
BP has him at 11 runs below average for his position in 2008.
And yet, he's being touted as a "terrific hitter."
But the really funny thing about this...seeing who the writer was, I went and looked up who Anderson's agent is, not knowing off the top of my head.
It is, of course, Scott Boras.
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Boras
Must be paying Heyman by the word, no?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Jan 28, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Heh. Before jumping to the comments I was thinking...
“I wonder just how much money a writer can make by being a mouthpiece for an agent.”
JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!
by rooster on Jan 28, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boras...
I sure hope there was something in Obama’s economic stimulus package for him. The guy is really struggling right now.
I hope he will be ok.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jan 28, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where do you look up a player’s agent? Just google?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 28, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cots has it for most
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jan 28, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Projections
The 2009 projections over at Fan Graphs are not all that kind. OBP ranges from .315 to .319, ouch.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 28, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't he always hit the Rangers very well?
Like exceeding his yearly numbers, a la Guerrero?
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Per baseball-reference
He’s a career .296/.327/.469 hitter, and a career .301/.336/.495 hitter v. the Rangers.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/anderga01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=anderga01&year=00
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised
that most hitters don’t have better numbers against the Rangers compared with other teams given the state of Ranger pitching the last several years.
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by t ball on Jan 29, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay AJM
but doesn’t your “eye” say he’s still terrific? LOL.
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by Agreen07 on Jan 28, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Terrific 2nd half hitter maybe.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
by sprite on Jan 28, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ha
he’s gonna turn 37 next year.
what makes him terrific is that he’s gonna hit .285 with 15 homers. he’s got rbi’s in the 80s (who cares who hits in front of him??). he only misses 20-40 games a year. and he’s got that world series ring. at least he won’t strike out 100 times.
Obama vs Palin in 2012. bring her on!
by gossamer on Jan 28, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
!!!woW
A 73 year old that hit’s .582 with 51 homers. That’s pretty awesome if you ask me. I can’t believe this guy is still on the market, or for that matter still alive!? What I want to know is, how do we get talent like that on this ball club?
On a more serious note. Does it seem like the baseball season is taking forever to get here????
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by Section 339 on Jan 28, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone nkow if a Bowden&Bard deal was
ever on the table for Salty?
just an fyi, Goldstein has his top 11 BoSox prospects up, Bowden is a 5 star, Bard a 4 star…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
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by Longhorn on Jan 28, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But, of course, Heyman can't possibly be influencing anything.
I mean, what team would say “whoa, we can’t look at that player until we know what Heyman thinks”? No team is reading the newspaper to decide who they should sign.
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by t ball on Jan 28, 2009 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
boras-whoring aside that is an incredibly ludicrous assessment of anderson. his demand was waning well before the free agent market became depressed. by the end of the season nobody expected him to command much more than a LuGo type deal.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jan 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jon and Scott
I was going to write a couple things about this, but then thought heck with it.
1) I wondered if Scott could really be dumb enough to think that a GM would follow Jon’s “advice,” but then figured it isn’t for the GM’s consumption but for the fan’s. Maybe if Scott can generate some buzz for a player with the fans maybe it would have tiny bit of influence on the GM. Can’t hurt to try.
2) wondered why SI would tolerate this? Doesn’t this type of pandering hurt Jon and SI’s credibility? Then concluded – what do they care? Maybe Scott gives Jon an inside scoop on a deal (doubtful unless it helps Scott somehow) which helps SI. The only person hurt are the readers who think Jon is providing some real information.
What I do wonder is if Boras has lost his influence with teams and then eventually teams. Sure, he got the Teix deal (and I’m sure various others). But he botched Varitek badly. Maybe Manny too. At some point in time, the marginal players may decide that Boras isn’t as great as he thinks and even stars might think the same.
I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun.
by WyoRanger on Jan 28, 2009 10:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Heyman scooping Boras stories
Did he break the ManRam to LAD trade? He was hot and heavy reporting the movements of the ManRam market, part of me thinks he might have been the one to announce at 4:03 pm EST that Manny was headed to Lala land.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 28, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Following the deadline in Boston, the person who broke the story was Nick Carfado , who went from the Boston Globe to Yahoo Sports. It was actually kind of funny. At 4:02 or so as NESN was wrapping it’s deadline show Nick got an email and basically said “I’m getting a report here…”
He had the benefit of being on TV, and I think Heyman and Olney confirmed the deal shortly thereafter.
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
by OCD SS on Jan 29, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW...
…I looked back at my 7/31 Coffey’s and found this at 3:42 Central (so 40 minutes after the deadline):
From Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated: "The Red Sox traded Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers late Thursday afternoon, SI.com has learned. Jason Bay is headed to Boston as part of the deal, SI.com has learned. The Pirates will get four minor leaguers in the three-way trade."
From Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com: The Pirates get third baseman Andy LaRoche (whose brother Adam plays first base for Pittsburgh) and righthander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Brandon (not Damien) Moss and reliever Craig Hansen from Boston. The Red Sox also pay the $7 million left on Ramirez’s deal this year.
But OCD SS seems to have better info.
by Jamey Newberg on Jan 29, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I was at work, I just remember constantly refreshing MLBTR to see if anything major broke right at the deadline, and I thought I remembered links to Heyman and Olney claiming Manny was headed to Chavez.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why is everyone so busy to blame the varitek deal on boras?
honestly….if the player doesnt know what hes doing after how many years in the big leagues there dcomes a point that you should JUST KNOW IT
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 29, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know
if thats a fair assessment. sure varitek ought to have a basic understanding of the economics of baseball by now, but let’s not forget this is a fairly new system for draft pick compensation they are working under. and i think one of the main criticisms levied at boras is he arrogantly failed to anticipate the severity of the impact the recession would have on the free agent market, which is something i dont see as varitek’s job. we dont know what the dynamic between varitek and boras is like but it really is an agent’s responsibility to do everything he can to ensure the player ’s goals (presumably financial ones) are met. and it seems like he dropped the ball here.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jan 29, 2009 8:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you hit...
.210 or .220 and are a 30+ year old catcher and you think you are worth a multi-year deal at 10 mil per then you’re stupid.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jan 29, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats not really the contract he needed to make declining arb worthwile
even something like 2 years/ 6 million per would have likely earned him more guaranteed money than the value of his arbitration contract. And its not as if he hasnt signed a substantial long-term deal before as a catcher in his 30s. Lots of athletes think they are worth more than they really are. It is the job, the responsibility even, of the agent to objectively assess a player’s market value and provide an informed recommendation to his client based on that assessment. Again, we dont know the full story regarding the player-agent dynamic between the two but i would be greatly surprised to learn that boras had urged him take arbitration and varitek wouldnt acquiesce.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jan 29, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
You hire agents so that you can rely on their experience, expertise and advise in situations exactly like the one Varitek was facing with accepting arbitration or walking. Varitek may have overridden Boras and demanded to walk, but such a complete disregard for your agent’s position seems to be very rare in baseball. A Rod and Kenny Rogers (both Boras) come to mind, but that was only after everything had already gone to hell.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean...
…at this point, is Heyman even trying to hide his affinity for carrying Boras’ water? It’s getting to the point where it’s almost embarrassing. I used to respect Heyman, but every time he comes out with something like that…dwindle, dwindle, dwindle…
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
by ghtd36 on Jan 28, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What I want to know
how does he still have a job. All this boras propaganda is really ridiculous. Hetman has zero credibility. The rangers are in on perez and manny coincidentally when talks stall a little…hmmm.
Another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!
by NothinG on Jan 28, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to respect Heyman
Until I started reading Ken Tremendous.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 28, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Tremendous taught me how stupid a lot of people I thought I liked were.
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know that feeling
Sometimes I would pretend I didn’t read what I read, so as not to permanently dislike a person that I used to like. On the other hand, any time Joe Morgan, HatGuy, or Ozzie Guillen started talking about the finer points of baseball, it was gold.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2009 12:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Kenny Rogers still a Boras client?
He calls him a Hall of Famer to Be.
by philkid3 on Jan 28, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kenny fired Boras last offseason
And started representing himself.
Since Heyman is pimping him as a HOF to be, Heyman must have forgotten that Boras no longer represents him.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 28, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2 + 2 should always equal 4.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Jan 29, 2009 12:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
When the hell does it not?
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 29, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless youre a communist
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Jan 29, 2009 1:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When you play GoldenEye on Nintendo 64 in multi-player mode, the Soviets know to send double the number of bad guys into combat than they would if you were playing in single-player mode
I’m pretty sure communists know their math.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 29, 2009 1:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember this multi-player mode.
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 1:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
same here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 29, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's because it doesn't exist
OC just dreamed it
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 29, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's thinking of the Locust horde?
I do like that Horde Mode.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
one of the N64 007 games was multiplayer
b/c i had a friend that was always trying to get 4 people over for 007 FPS mayhem
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jan 29, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Goldeneye had multiplayer.
And it was epic and revolutionary. Just no co-op mode.
Perfect Dark had a co-op mode.
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, they weren't communists anymore in Goldeneye, were they?
Watch me continue to take this conversation with a grain of seriousness!
(I did lol, btw.)
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 1:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exhibit A:
The Red Dossier.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
by ghtd36 on Jan 29, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They weren't all communists
but I believe Ouromov was trying to take Russia back to being a communist country
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 29, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
But then maybe only the soldiers loyal to Orumov were smart enough to double up their troops in this make-believe co-op mode.
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This whole conversation
makes me want to go play Goldeneye with proximity mines in the complex. There was nothing more fun than that.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 29, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got it.
But no one to play with. :(
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If only...
…they could work out the licensing issues and release a port for XBLA. Imagine being able to play over Live. Would be total awesomeness.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crede
Says the Rangers have shown interest. Uh, there has been some news in the 3B area for the Rangers recently …
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by t ball on Jan 29, 2009 12:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
OK, this is speculation, but
I wonder if Texas wasn’t the landing spot for Mike Lowell if the Sox had landed Teixeira?
It might make sense if the Rangers were not that concerned with his health. It would also explain why there was so little movement in the Sox-Rangers talks at the time, and why JD waited so long into the off-season to try to move MY to 3B.
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
by OCD SS on Jan 29, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The possibility at least makes sense
Perhaps JD was planning to land Buchholz and Lowell in a semi-blockbuster deal…
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heyman is currently on Hot Stove screeching about Joe Torre being out of line in what he said in the book.
You know, the book that isn’t out yet. And the things Torre said aren’t really in it.
“Burden of proof” and “evidence” are clearly not important things to him. Shoot first and ask questions later is his M.O. in all walks of life.
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2009 1:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
And he's only "36"
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Jan 29, 2009 2:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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