Thursday a.m. stuff
So, with Joaquin Benoit likely done for 2009, the bullpen picture appears fuzzier.
Richard Durrett writes that Benoit and Eric Hurley both tried the rehab route, which was recommended by (according to Jon Daniels) multiple doctors, and it was when that failed that they went with rotator cuff surgery.
Jeff Wilson notes that Benoit's injury wasn't as severe as Hurley's, and Benoit could be back at some point this season, but if he doesn't, Benoit could have pitched his last pitch as a Ranger.
Anthony Andro says that the current bullpen situation makes you appreciate Jamey Wright a little more. Personally, I don't think it is that bad...but then, I don't have the level of appreciation for Wright that others apparently do...
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Makes me a little
More worried about Hurley now. Hurley could be looking at 12-18 months if not more. Atleast he has youth on his side and isn’t in his 30’s.
Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!
I cannot believe that Benoit will
be back at any time this season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
And with your
Thorough knowledge of medicine, who could doubt you?
by brettgardner on Jan 29, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I think it is safe to say
That if Benoit does come back at the end of this year he’s not going to be as productive as normal. Honestly if he was under control for more than this year I’d wholly recommend him to just sit this season out.
I don't he comes back this year as well
and like said above, if he does come back he won’t be as ineffective as usual. he’ll be even worse
Another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!
how can you not appreciate the electric stuff wright has??
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
the bullpen
has the potential to be absolutely terrible.
FX2 looks pretty solid
CJ is coming off injury and was starting to look like a LOOGY anyway
Madrigal has some potential
and the rest of those guys (Eyre, Rupe, Gabbard, Nippert, etc) just plain suck. A quality bullpen might have one of those types as the long man, but when the majority of the pen consists of this quality of pitcher, there are signs of real trouble.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
Remember when
JD was like “he will get a shot” to make the bullpen?
That shot just went from a half court shot to a 3 pointer.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
i believe he was referring to
an mtv rock and jock game…
"I may not be a class act, but I'm an American."
-- Ron Artest on wanting to play for the Olympic team
Actually I was
reffering to that ridiculous show that was on Spike for like two seasons where the guys run an jump on trampolenes and just fly all over the court… cant remember the name of it though.
Basically, it was an insult to the human race.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
SLAMBALL! nt
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
YES
worst
show
ever.
they show replays late at night when everyone who would be watching Spike is drunk off their ass, its great then, shitty every other time
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Right now
Their league coaches include John Starks, Kenny Anderson and Rocket Ismail….oh, and Ken Carter (as in “Coach Carter” the terrible Sam Jackson movie)
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
The bully
Sorry, there’s really nothing you can depend on as being absolutely rock-solid and there chances of being good are dwarfed by their chances of being a disaster.
It’s partially because of they’re overworked and partially because some them lack talent.
With FX2 we kind of know what we have (poor man’s Coco) and as long as he isn’t forced to pitch more than 50 IPs, I’m very comfortable with CJ. Madrigal still fits snugly in the “we’ll see” window.
Everything else?
Crap.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Rupe
I think Rupe could be a nice arm if hes not asked to throw 90+ innings this year.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think that Rupe has something
but he’s the poster child of the overworked bully arm in Texas.
53 IPs before July 1?
In May (2.87 ERA) and June (1.29 ERA) he was pretty good but closed the rest of the season with monthly ERAs of 6.14, 5.71, 9.24.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
his K-rate and BB-rate
beg to differ.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
Eh
hes not gonna be a high strikeout guy. His K-rate actually increased as his innings did. Its the walks that bothered me. And they increased significantly the more he was used.
Through July 1st in 46.2 innings Rupe was walking under 3.5 per 9 innings
After July 1st in 42.2 innings that rate increased to 6.33 per 9.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Eh
Bullpens are always unpredictable. Every year there is a guy or two who overperform every reasonable expectation, and there are a couple of guys who are disastrous despite always looking good prior (kind of like Benoit and Wilson last year).
Unless you have a rock-star in your pen (and even those are unpredictable, e.g., Scot Shields last year), the best strategy is to begin the season with as many fresh arms as possible – stick the ones you have the best feeling about in Arlington, the ones with options in AAA, and hope to just ride the hot arms as well as you can. Looking Jack is tough because it reduces the arsenal by one of the stronger arms – but by no means was he going to make or break this team.
CJ
When was he starting to look like a LOOGY?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Yeah
I don’t get that. It seems he is looking like a setup guy, maybe in a rotation with a righty depending on the 3 guys due up more than a LOOGY.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
for his career
vs LHB .585 OPS allowed
vs RHB .832 OPS allowed.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
I understand that, but
you said he was starting to look like a LOOGY. His main struggles against righties came in his first 2 years of the league when he allowed righties to hit for a .920 OPS in 143 PAs in 05 and an .835 OPS against in 112 PAs in 06. He showed major improvement in 07 where his main problem was just walking too many righties instead of getting hit hard by them. Even last year when he was just all in all terrible and pitching injured, he was actually better against righties than lefties.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Yeah
I didn’t want to look it up, but I remember him having reverse splits from a LOOGY in 2008.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
in 2008 he pretty much sucked
and in his best year, 2007, RHB got on base at a .381 clip – he wasn’t very effective at getting them out, thus a good LOOGY candidate.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
In 2007
Righties had a 92 OPS+ against him (compared against all lefties pitching to righties). That’s not bad at all. He was right about average when you look at how righties as a whole hit in 2007. Since his problem was walking too many guys, I think that is a correctable flaw. A LOOGY should be the guy that can’t do any of that. The guy who is terrible against righties, who gets hit hard, can’t get them out, and should never pitch against non lefties. That’s a guy like Rheinecker, not CJ
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Pure Speculation
Injuries are different for everybody and everybody recovers differently.
And from my high ranking medical mind, I think that both will have a 8-10 week recovery period, as most due for rotator cuff repair, and then both will start a throwing a bullpen in May. Then, with most rotator cuff’s, their will be a buildup of scar tissue and inflamation, it will be scoped, and then my late june I could see both building arm strength back.
My point? I think both could be back, but I dont think the Rangers want Hurley in the majors this year, if he comes back it will be late in the year at AA and in the Fall Instructionals, and with Benoit they want him back ASAP because they have to get some kind of return on their investment if they can.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 9:33 AM CST reply actions
Bullpen needs a stimulus package
I think they need to acquire some relief, if only to keep them from having to call up another batch of rookies prematurely.
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Here is my Rotator Cuff Knowledge
Rotator Cuff Repair
In order to repair a torn rotator cuff, the surgeon reattaches the damaged tendon (or tendons) to the upper arm (humerus). (Some rotator cuff injuries involve more than one torn tendon.)
This surgery involves several key steps:
In order to gain access to the injured rotator cuff, the surgeon makes a two- to three-inch incision in the shoulder, then cuts through the deltoid muscle.
The surgeon removes any scar tissue that has built up on the tendon.
The surgeon carves a small trough at the top of the upper arm, then drills small holes through the bone.
Finally, the surgeon sews the tendon to the bone, with the sutures going through the tiny holes in the upper arm. (Sometimes a surgeon will use permanent anchors to attach the tendon to bone.)
During this operation, the surgeon also removes bone spurs and releases any ligaments that are pressing on the tendon. If a bursa is inflamed, the surgeon excises or removes it. The surgeon also may remove a small portion of the acromion to make sure the repaired rotator cuff has enough room to move.
Afterwards, the patient’s arm is placed in a sling. With time, healing occurs, as scar tissue connects the tendon to bone. Because tendons receive such poor blood supply, this is a slow process.
Physical Therapy
Physical therapy exercises should be performed at least three and preferably five times every day. Each exercise should be repeated 10 to 15 times, with the number of repetitions gradually being increased. Positions should be held for a three to five seconds.
The initial goal of physical therapy is to restore the full range of motion to the surgically repaired shoulder. Within one to three weeks after surgery, it should be possible to move the arm as much as the uninjured shoulder.
Beginning Exercises
Forward elevation of the arm. This exercise is performed while lying on the back. It’s designed to move the surgically repaired arm through its full range of motion.
Begin with the injured arm laying at your side and your elbow straight.
The physical therapist slowly lifts the injured arm, moving it through a 180-degree arc, until it is alongside your head. You should use your uninjured arm to lift the arm on which you had surgery. In this way you can perform your exercises without the need for assistance.
Don’t use the muscles of the surgically repaired arm to perform this exercise. Also, don’t arch your back. Keep the elbow straight.
Sports that place a great deal of strain on the shoulder, such as tennis, baseball, softball, and racquetball, require at least a six-month recovery period.
SO, as I said before. This should be the guys timetable.
May: Light throwing, lifting, running, movement exercises. The arm should have full range of motion.
At this point, one or both will probably have a scoping procedure to remove scar tissue and clean the area, which will have a two to three week rest period.
Late June: At this point, both will start throwing extensively. I detailed in my earlier post what I thought about the chances of both pitching this year.
Benoit: Will pitch this year, most likely in late August/September, ESPECIALLY if the Rangers are in contention.
Hurley: Will probably return to Arizona, work there with the team through July, then go to the bullpen in Frisco for August. After that season is over, he will probably shut it down for a month, UNLESS the Rangers are in contention and need an arm and he is doing well, but I doubt the Rangers push it. Then, he does the Fall league, Winter league, and is ready to go in Spring Training.
Wish me luck, Behavioral Research in Psychology exam, 3 hours and counting.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I seriously doubt
Hurley is in any shape to pitch even late in the year. I’ll give Benoit about a 20% chance of seeing some action in September. Thanks for the summary.
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Professional
athletes have ridiculously unprecedented access to PT, state of the art euipments and techniques. They can do it, and do it in incredible time.
Lest we forget, Mr. Pedro Martinez?
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
But they also
put a ridiculous amount of stress on their bodies compared to most people. We’re not talking about getting them back to a desk job, they’re thoroughbreds who need to be in racing shape.
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Pedro
Pedro, Pedro, Pedro.
Pedro was 37, had a horrible shoulder and back, had the surgrery late in October, started throwing the first week of June. He pitched in the minors in July, and made it to the team in Aug or September.
Hurley and Benoit both have the ability to do this, but faster. They had their surgeries two months later, but because they are in better health, I believe they can come back on close to the same time frame.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Change
“better health” to “younger”
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
It took Pedro
a year to get back on the hump.
It’s a tough, tough surgery and considered to be a major triumph when you can raise your arm at a 90 degree angle.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
He had the surgery late in October
It was not a substantial tear, surgery was minimal, he started throwing and long toss in april, off a mound in June.
So that would be a 37 year old with a injury history, he threw within 6 months, mound within 8.
Benoit: Throw in June/July, bullpen/mound in August, club in late August or September? Its possible.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh
Wish me luck, Behavioral Research in Psychology exam, 3 hours and counting.
I do not miss those upper division psych courses.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
I have
7 tests in this class this semester.
This is #1
fuck my life
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
Jeebus
Someone get this guy bottle of Macallan 18
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
+1
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by inactive lsb user on Jan 29, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Alright
I got a B, at least. Outside shot at an A, less than 5% chance of a C.
Not bad.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Good job!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
thanks
hey its the first test of the year, its always good to get off to a good start.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
PM,
From what my understanding is, the rotator cuff injury is only severe if it’s torn from the bone. Many pitchers may not be able to come back from rotator cuff’s torn from the bone. Maybe someone can find the exact answer, but I’m pretty sure that both of them DID NOT have tears from the bone. Both pitchers, from what I understand, should come back 100% healthy.
They both had rotator cuff
“tears”. when JD sais they both have tears and tried to do PT, that means that the tendon was torn from the bone PARTIALLY as the picture in the fanpost indicates, and they were hoping the body would be able to heal the space between tendon and bone by adding new tissue.
It was not succesful, so now they go in, cut the muscle, attatch it to string, “tie it to the shoulder”, and then let the body add tissue and do its process.
If the muscle had been torn completely away from the bone, the arm wouldnt have worked and they would have had surgery right then and there.
Hopefully that helps.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
O
and when a muscle tears in the “middle” and not away from the bone, normal PT works roughly 99% of the time. Those kinds of tears happen all the time, to every kind of person. Roll an ankle badly there is probably a partial tear in the muscle, with which the body can heal fairly easily with rest.
Its time...
by FormerLSBUser on Jan 29, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
not worried about the bullpen yet
there are still enough arms on the market for me to worry. JD has been patient so far this offseason (much to your collective chagrin in these forums) and I suspect he will not have a problem finding another arm or two. I have thrown out the names of Orlando Hernandez and Keith Foulke as two potential NRIs I find interesting, but there are much stronger names still on the market, and with two guys who can shift to the 60 day DL, we have some 40 flexability now.
Yeah, there are arms on the market
but they’re not going to play pro bono and this payroll isn’t going anywhere.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Also per Ben Sheets...
They have an owner who is willing to spend more than the Rangers, a young team whose window of opportunity to win opened last year and they just lost CC.
Doug Melvin is a sharp GM.
Why wouldn’t they go after Sheets?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Melvin didn't draft well for the most part (although he does get credit
for Blalock & Tex) but he hired a good manager, signed productive free agents and also made some really nice trades (hello Michael Young) to help the team win at the major league level.
Melvin showed that he could be a very good GM with both a small and large payroll.
Doug Melvin was so much better at his job than Jonny Donuts.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Tom Hicks
gets credit for Teix. It wasn’t a mystery that he was a good player. He was going to go to the first team with deep enough purse strings to moneywhip him.
Get off my lawn.
Cahill,
It happened on his watch so Melvin gets credit/blame for everybody drafted while he was GM.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Also, who gets the blame
for this team not spending the extra $ 50,000 it would have taken to sign Barry Zito after they drafted him in 1998?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently
Melvin according to your theory. Hicks apparently is absolutely blameless for any personnel moves that happened on Melvin’s watch.
Get off my lawn.
Who knows if Melvin wouldn't
budge from his offer or whether or not HIcks wouldn’t give it to him?
Credit Melvin with the draft pick but points deducted for failing to sign.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
Amazing development if true
WEEI on Varitek:
“I have moles who tell me if the deadline was today then no deal.”
http://www.weei.com/Dale—-Holley/235643
And the Herald:
A deadline of tomorrow has been communicated to the catcher, although the final decision might not be revealed until Saturday.
If Varitek declines, the offer would be pulled off the table by the Red Sox. If Varitek were to ever see another one, it would be for terms less favorable to the player. Or, a "no" could signal an absolute end to negotiations, forcing each side to move on.
The Sox would presumably go with Josh Bard as their primary catcher. In such a scenario, one of two current young prospects, either George Kottaras or Dusty Brown, would work with Bard.
Or, the Red Sox would pull the trigger on a trade.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1148584&srvc=rss
I have no idea what he’s thinking. Might be there’s a serious offer from another team, totally out of the public eye.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 29, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions
This continues to amaze/amuse me.
Really, what are those two thinking? (Boras and JV)
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe Theo told him he would
he would be splitting time with a certain young catcher…
the preceding post was a great success.
He was told this from the beginning of negotiations this offseason. Part of what the Sox want to do is have him teach his replacement.
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
So’s he a Red Sox this weekend? It’s just incredible seeing it drag on even this long.
That he’d turn them down is flat ridiculous. All you can guess is Boras already has another package in place.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 29, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
If Boras had another package in place we’d have heard about it by now as Boras tried to pressure the Sox to go higher.
Boras will always go to the deadline, but I think Jason Varitek is in control of the process, and is delusional about his own worth.
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
I'm shocked
I am shocked that the Rangers weren’t included in this. I thought it was standard practice for Rangers to be in all reports of pitcher workouts, FAs and trades. Didn’t Dierkes get the memo?
I don’t have the scoop on those teams, but it’s safe to say that Hill needs a smaller market and a team that can tolerate his peaks and valleys without demoting him. My guess at the six candidates to acquire Hill: the Royals, Mariners, Padres, Pirates, Marlins, and Orioles.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
working Hill back in
as a lefty in the bullpen makes some sense, but I wouldn’t offer too much for him.
I wouldn't trade too much either.
Maybe a PTBNL based on his making the team in ST.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
LOST Talk...
Anyone else watch it last night? WTF Mate?
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
Jerk...
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 29, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
My limited television
watching was reserved for TIVO’d MLB stuff.
Hot Stove, Harvey’s Wallbangers, Baseball Season 1968.
The Brew Crew was really good in 1982.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
I watched Lost
for the first 3 seasons. Then it just got too far away from its original appeal. Miss a show or two or three and YOU get lost.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
It can...
Get totally wheels off and confusing, but I think that’s why I like it. I’m a glutton for punishment with my choice of TV shows and my choice of MLB teams.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 29, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
it’s getting a little crazy.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Lost
Only reason i even watch anymore is because i’ve already invested this much time into it i might as well finish out the series.
but this show is getting more and more confusing each episode
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
rentz
I’m the same way, I started watching it from Day 1 and now I can’t quit. Lost is my Ennis Del Mar.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 29, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
They are starting to wrap things up
and explaining more hanging mysteries than they are creating it seems like.
Get off my lawn.
Agreed...
I think we are going to see that the stuff from the first season was actually time travel, i.e. Desmond in LA talking to Jack. Mind Blown
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 29, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Next season
is the last one.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Next season
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Yes, I watched last night.
What a great episode. Anyone who says Lost sucks is the one who sucks! Bam.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
BURN!
The problem is that LOST requires viewers to actually become engaged in the show and think about what they’re watching, and that’s apparently a big no-no for the average viewer…I agree that it can get get confusing, but what’s wrong with that?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
LOST
is the perfect watch on DVD to catch up show.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
+1
That’s how I watched the first two seasons.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Totally
I do not recomment anyone starting to watch the show next week. Start with season 1 and watch them on DVD. Otherwise you will be confused and spoiled, and being surprised by the show is the best part.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
And if you are big into LOST...
Lostpedia.com, I’ve been on there a good part of the morning trying to figure out WTF is happening.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Jan 29, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Been there
Cool site. I am totally hooked on the show. I watched the first 4 seasons on DVD
by Michael Cave on Jan 29, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Wright
I think Andro is confusing the volatile nature of relief pitching performance with a particular player. Turnbow could just as easily surpass our expectations, as well as Al Reyes (or anybody else on the list of FA relievers). If Andro is advocating offering a NRI to a reliever or two, I’ve got no problem with that. However, I get the feeling that what Andro wrote should be taken at face value (i.e. the Rangers need Wright).
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 29, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
I don't understand how you feel good about the bullpen...
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Once Sheets signs with us, everyone will feel good about everything.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
Lovefest
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Really it’s been The Curious Case of Benjamin Sheets.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 29, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I can't help it that other people's images suck.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
You do have skins on the wall as far as image posting is concerned.
But so do I.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
and both of you
care far too much about it. Frosting ain’t nothing without cake, don’t get carried away.
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Not what I meant.
Just that sometimes there’s more frosting than cake around here.
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My posts to OC wern't even serious
I find yours pretty insulting.
the preceding post was a great success.
CHARGE THE MOUND!!!
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 29, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Jeez guys, lighten up
I’m not serious, either. Have some cake.
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I don't like coconut.
...Snoop Doggy-Dogg... Ya need to get yourself a jobby-job.
by oc on Jan 29, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ben Sheets, OC's new Zach Greinke...
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Rob Neyer speaks
on who he thinks are “next year’s Rays.”
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/1/29/739670/an-interview-with-rob-neye
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Its interesting that
he doesn’t even mention Texas but mentions Baltimore, Kansas City, Washington, and Pittsburgh.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Not sure about Pitt, Wash, KC or Balt
but why the hell would he mention the Rangers in the same breath as last year’s Rays?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
go investigate the other 4
none of those teams are remotely close to the devil rays
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
I don't think the Rangers
are “close” either.
If things break right, 2011 and beyond is when this thing might start getting serious about contending (90+ wins) but then we’ll need to start worrying if Josh is going to be here long-term or if we’re going to trade him for more magic beans.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Status quo is not gonna cut it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
btw i got MLB Front office manager from gamefly yesterday
And the fact that it doesn’t even have Feliz/Andrus/Holland/Smoak in the game with fake names annoys me greatly.
Good thing teagarden/max/etc. were on the were on the mlb roster last year so they are in at least.
And my budget was set at 102 million, which i wish was realistic.
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Apparently Im a better GM than JD
Frank the Cat, Gerald Laird and Marlon Byrd for Clay Buchholz.
Oh yeah.
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wow
Daniels would in line for a Nobel prize or something if he pulled that off.
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well that didnt go well
Is 53-109 good?
Here are the top 6 ERAs by my pitching staff, relievers included.
J. Benoit – 2.25
V. Padilla – 5.70
C. Bucholz – 5.89
K. Millwood – 6.07
M. Harrison – 6.09
F. Francisco – 6.90
In Frankie Francisco’s DL time Jamie right got 13 save oppurtunies.. and blew 11 of them. 12.27 era on the season.
Anyway, conclusion: Horrible unintuitive interface makes it very annoying to do anything. No effort put into representing real prospects. Horrible contracts given out, most signed before the player hit open free agency… my 7 year 30 million per offer to CC Sabathia didn’t even get him. Decent results .ops wise across the league, though 3 players hit over .390 including 410 by holliday.
I don’t like this game very much.
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by DShep on Jan 29, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Glad you suffered
so that the rest of us can avoid. I’ll stick with OOTP.
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example of interface problems
1) You constantly get emails to tell you to do stuff. You cant just click on the email and be taken to that, you have to back out and find it in the menus. They tell me I have draft picks I need to sign, and I have to spend 5 minutes finding where they hid them in the menus. It says I have arbitration offers to make, and…. this will go into my second complaint.
2) Ok so say I want to make offers to 20 players for various arbitration stuff and such. So I sort it by when someone is eligible, and it gives me a nice list. So I click the first guy and make my offer, alright. Then for no reason at all, when it backs out of that player it unsorts the list and puts the cursor at the top. So then youve got to re-sort the list, and scroll down to the next player. So you end up re-sorting and re-scrolling down a list 20 times for absolutely no reason when it could easily remember your sorting and cursor position and take a fraction of the time to do.
It seems like if someone really loves this kind of thing they could deal with all the annoyances and get something out of it. But as a retail console release from a major production company that has the exclusive MLB license I was hoping it would be making management sims more accessible, when in fact its more difficult to use than the text based ones Ive tried. The menus look nice and having some graphical representation of the games is nice (though I cant see anyone actually watching the simulations very much.. it takes too long and you have no control.. maybe for the playoffs).. but I was hoping for more than that.
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thanks
I was interested, but it sounds like one to avoid.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
You should've made an OT fanpost outta this
It’s be a lot better than the last few OT fanposts we’ve seen, at least.
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
Dangit
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Just starting my career.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Mike Sweeney signs with Mariners
according to XM
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Do you like Mike Sweeney?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Do I sound like Mrs.Sweeney?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Since you used no onomatapeai
I would say no.
But kind of a pointless question.
"If I could breathe, I would vomit." - Ned the Pie Maker
z
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Tek
Just about the best-case scenario for JD’s leverage, you ask me.
According to a baseball source, the deadline by which Varitek must accept or decline the Red Sox’ latest contract offer is set for tomorrow morning, leaving less than a day for the matter to play out. According to the same source, Varitek is seriously considering the option of sitting out the 2009 season and/or retiring rather than accepting the contract offer made to him last week.
Saltalamacchia is regarded as having better offensive upside but comes with major questions defensively. Montero is looked upon as a more balanced player and the more likely acquisition by trade, according to another baseball source, and presumably would displace Kottaras given that he bats from the left side.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/01/varitek_sox_in.html
Go Strangers.
but,
They made sure to say that Monterno is more desireable to Boston than Salty. Do you think that is true or just trying to keep JD’s leverage as low as possible, so he doesn’t get too confident about the Buchholz idea?
I don’t think it’s true.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 29, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Joe Beimel
Is there a reason that no one is discussing Joe Beimel as a relief option? Is he a type A? He has put up pretty nice numbers for LA and could probably be pretty effective here.
I mentioned Beimel somewhere earlier on
LSB today.
He’s actually somebody who could still be here if/when this thing gets turned around.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Off the top of my head...
He walks a lot of people. No spring chicken. And he’s beneficiary of pitching in Dodger Stadium much of his career.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 29, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
2.81 ERA away from Chavez Ravine in 2008
66 walks in his last 186 IPs isn’t horrific.
They were talking about him on XM yesterday. Kevin Kennedy said very good things about him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
OT: This Matthew Stafford
sounds like a really good egg.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
He posted on here a few times IIRC
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 30, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
here
http://www.lonestarball.com/2007/8/18/211236/020
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 30, 2009 7:57 AM CST up reply actions
Heh, some of his comments
make me think he’s hurlerhurley’s brother or something.
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He had a sitdown interview with the Hardline yesterday.
Seems like a well grounded kid for someone who is sure to be a top 5 pick, and a multi-millionare in a few months.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

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