Saturday a.m. things
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 31, 2009 10:24 AM CST
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Yawn.
Marlon Byrd signed, which we talked about yesterday.
Jason Varitek signed with the Red Sox, and both Jeff Wilson, Jim Reeves and Richard Durrett say that means that there will be no Salty trade to Boston.
Reeves also says that the Rangers had offered Salty for Clay Buchholz (no big surprise there), and that they had been considering bringing back Pudge Rodriguez if they dealt a catcher.
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Reeves article
He mentions that 2-3 million isn’t prohibitive for a backup catcher, if one is dealt. How come we couldn’t instead spend that type money on one of the available relievers that might actually help win a few games? You know, how about shore up a weakness, instead of throwing money at the biggest position of depth on the roster?
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by tricer on Jan 31, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Concur...
bringing back Pudge would just be a PR move. It wouldn’t help the Rangers win any more games, but perhaps they think it would help sell more tickets.
I would raher use that money towards Sheets or a another arm for the ’pen as well.
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by slc ranger on Jan 31, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
The Rangers have bigger problems than at backup catcher. I like Pudge but let him find another team for that type of money and and spend it like slc and tricer said on Sheets and a reliever.
We really offered Salty for Buchholz? Thanks Capt. Obvious.
Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!
by boomer1 on Jan 31, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet
Why is Sheets not signed yet if we are talking about potentially spending an extra few million dollars on a veteran back-up catcher while hoping Sheets signs a 1 year 8 million dollar deal.
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by Gdawg on Jan 31, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because he’s hurt. That seems to be the general market reaction anyway. John Garland got a job before Ben Sheets.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 31, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which relief pitcher would you want for that money? Assuming Juan Cruz would want more than that, who else looks appetizing to you?
Luis Ayala (31) – Type B, not offered arb
Joe Beimel (32) – Type B, not offered arb
Joe Borowski (38)
Shawn Chacon (31)
Chad Cordero (27)
Juan Cruz (30) – Type A, offered arb
Elmer Dessens (37)
Brendan Donnelly (37)
Scott Elarton (33)
Randy Flores (33)
Keith Foulke (35)
Eric Gagne (33) – Type B, not offered arb
Tom Gordon (41)
Eddie Guardado (38)
Jason Isringhausen (36) – Type B, not offered arb
Tyler Johnson (27)
Jon Lieber (39)
Aquilino Lopez (34)
Will Ohman (31)
Al Reyes (38)
Dennys Reyes (32) – Type B, offered arb
Ricardo Rincon (39)
Rudy Seanez (40) – Type B, not offered arb
Brian Shouse (40) – Type B, offered arb
Ken Takahashi (41)
Julian Tavarez (36)
Mike Timlin (43)
Ron Villone (39)
Kip Wells (32)
Matt Wise (33)
Jamey Wright (34)
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by thedirkatron on Jan 31, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouse is very close
to signing with the Devil Rays <- eff name changes. He held lefies to 180/.196/.290 last season. He would have been a great option for the LOOGY role.
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by Rodney on Jan 31, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather just go with Gabbard or some AAAA guy as my second lefty than pay for a guy like Shouse, though he should be pretty cheap.
I guess if it was a one year 1mm or less kind of thing I wouldn’t mind a guy like Shouse or Every Buffet Eddie in here as the second lefty.
I don’t now how much faith I have in Gabbard as a LOOGY until I actually see him in the role, but his career .692 OPS against versus lefties is pretty strong.
Only 160 total PA’s, though.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
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by thedirkatron on Jan 31, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
1. Shouse is holding out for a 2nd year, prolly sign an option deal if presented. And, his OPS was over 200 points below Gabby’s.
2. I don’t know if Gabbard can be an effective BP guy. As we were told last season, he takes too long to warm up because of all the injuries he has suffered. Was that just BS, or one man’s opinion?
I’d really rather sign a good righty than worry about a LOOGY, though.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on Jan 31, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, I think Shouse is the better LOOGY right now, but Gabbard is cheaper and under control for a while, so for our purposes I'd prolly prefer just giving him a shot out there.
As for #2 there, I think that’s way overblown.
If he can’t figure out a way to warm up fast enough to be a bullpen guy (maybe an Aki-like constantly stretching during the games-routine?) then he can go start in the Indy leagues, cause he’s not gonna be a big league starter.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 31, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Torres is a sleeper IMO
He hasnt pitched in AAA yet due to injuries but his #s in A+/AA last year were absolutely dominant, former first rounder…
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GB%
Gabbard can induce a hell of a lot of GB’s. Last season it was something like 63, and the previous two years was over 50. If he can just stop walking batters.
What are the odds that all of the above pitchers will get a contract by opening day? If the Rangers’ bullpen is a giant, flaming vortex of sucktitude a month or so into the season, they will still have some options out there.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 31, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For a guy reputed to be capable of terrific
command, his minor league #s don’t bear this quality out nor due his major league #s. If he can ptich in the bullpen- read, if he can warm up fast enough – then he has to find this mythic command of his or he’ll be in AAA .
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crap
That should read, “something like 63%” and, “over 50%”.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jan 31, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's been way out of the news this off-season
any definitive updates on the nature/relative success of his surgery and the progression of his rehab? It was the elbow right?
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was his elbow
I know that he’s been willing to workout for teams this offseason.
He has an official blog that can be found here: http://www.aspara.co.jp/aki-otsuka/
No idea what it says since it’s in Japanese.
This was also posted on mlbtraderumors (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/odds-and-ends-o.html) in December:
Patrick Newman found that Akinori Otsuka will work out in front of reps from all MLB teams next month. Apparently Padres GM Kevin Towers is interested if Otsuka’s healthy
It probably doesn’t bode well for him being signed if no one has taken a flyer on him yet since January is when the article says he was suppose to work out for teams.
by hiafex on Jan 31, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
i imagine if he doesn’t work out next week then it must mean he isn’t healthy yet. But he could be healthy by 4/1 so it wouldnt be a death knell for his season but prob. means he would have to do a minor lg contract…
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a breakdown of all these guys
at my blog. I think we should do the following:
sign a couple High risk/high reward guys:
Cordero and Sisco
Sign a guy who can be a legit setup guy and the only one’s who I would trust in that role are, in order of preference:
Cruz, (Cordero), Ayala,(Ringo), Borowski <cordero and ringo not ready by 4/1>
Don’t sign anyone you wouldn’t trust to pitch as a setup guy; we have enough of those already (Madrigal Rupe Feldman, Turnbow etc)
Sign a loogy
First group:
d. Reyes, Shouse, Beimel, Ohman (each as good as the other IMO)
Second group:
Guardado, Villone (Sisco)
Who do I think wants to and will likely sign with us?
Guardado is the only guy from that above list coming here. Most of the other guys either want to stay in the NL or pitch for a playoff caliber club, which knocks a good chunk of them off our radar. In addition, I’ve only heard rumors of the rehabbing guys (cordero, ringo, Sisco) talking to other clubs and not the rangers (depite their “expressed” interest in cordero).
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would throw
Gagne in with the other 8th inning guys as well. I would think that he would be the most likely sign of anyone from that group. I think it would be a good signing if it came to pass.
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As has been mentioned before
I like the idea of trading a low level prospect for Rich Hill and seeing if he can be recuperated via a bullpen role. Balt seems to be on the verge of trading for him for a bag of rocks…
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Would you give anything up for Jason Jennings? Rich Hill is 29 come opening day, has one good season in the Majors, has terrible control, and is an injury risk. I see no reason to give up anything to get him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jan 31, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you wouldnt be giving up anything
a low level prospect the quality of which would be solely based on his performance. If he sucks, they get a non-prospect, if he’s good we have a guy now, and they might get some guy 4 years from now. What’s not to like? Give my Rich Hill over Jennings any day. Jenning’s career #s are horrible when he is healthy. But they would get Hill for the bullpen so the comparison isn’t apt save for the bag of rocks that you would have to give up for either one.
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jennings vs. Hill
Jennings has had a much more productive career than Hill has. Hill had one good full season and one good half season when he was 26 and 27. What has he done outside of that? Jennings at least has injuries as an excuse for the past couple of seasons. You’re taking a huge risk with Hill when he shouldn’t be getting anything more than an NRI. I wouldn’t give up even a Hamburger type prospect for Hill.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 31, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jennings has always sucked
except for one season and his control has been horrible every season. At least Hill would be tried in a different role,moving to the bullpen with hopes he can catch on there, whereas Jennings will still be a shitty starter. And, BTW, I would give up a 22 yo UDFA who hasnt played a full season in A-ball for hill anyday.
by Goyogringo on Jan 31, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...
First of all, the point isn’t so much a comparison of Hill vs. Jennings. I used Jennings as an example because he is an NRI candidate many people here seem to, at best, feel indifferent towards. It seems like you are missing the point here by concentrating too much on Jennings. The point is that Hill really is no better than any NRI and is a huge risk to do anything just like a Jason Jennings, a Bruce Chen, a Sidney Ponson, etc.
And also, in Jennings defense, he had one great season in 06 and a good rookie season when he won the ROY award. Also, his FIP surpassed his ERA in each season between that rookie year and his 06 season. In comparison to Hill, that’s a much better track record.
I don’t believe a different role would help Hill that much. With his fastball averaging out to the upper 80s and his terrible control, I don’t think his curveball is enough to make him anything better than a fringe bullpen arm. I also don’t think his age should be overlooked here. I’d rather go with risky young players in the bullpen who at least can have a good future here than a guy like Hill. Diamond, Gabbard, Bannister, Eyre, and Mendoza are all on the 40 man currently and are probably less of a risk than Hill. Mathis and Murray (is he still a Ranger or did he leave?) are another couple of guys I’d rather see the team try out in the bullpen. If you want a good bullpen arm, go after one of the many free agent RP who at least have some history of success in the bullpen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 31, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Hill's #s in
1/2 yr 06 and his first full year in 07. What is it that you don’t like about the idea of getting hill for hamburger (or another B level prospect)? Hill sucked in 08, the reason reportedly being a mental problem, not a talent problem. His #s from 06-07 are terrific, and so is his control, better than Jennings in his best year. So, ok, forget jennings, look at Hill’s #s for 06-07 and tell me that getting him for hamburger, and seeing if he can regain his confidence in the bullpen wouldn’t be a slam-dunk opportunity. High risk, high reward, for a bag of bones, for a guy who could eventually be a starter again. Sorry, man, it is a no brainer in my opinion. The rangers did the same thing with Nippert (who I’m no fan of the possible reward was worth the effort) and Hill would be an even better recuperative candidate IMO. Whatever the case, if the rangers won’t spend money on pitchers this year, then I think throwing in your chips for high risk/high reward candidates is not a bad way to go. The rangers should be in on the likes of Hill, Cordero, Sisco, Mulder and Chuck James because the reward is great and the risk is next to nothing…
by Goyogringo on Feb 1, 2009 2:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nippert
He was younger than Hill when we traded for him by a few years and he never really got that strong of a chance in the Majors. Hill blew a guaranteed rotation spot with how he performed last year Hill is nearing the end of his prime years as a players and you want to trade for him and start trying to hope he can overcome mental issues at this point in his career. Those same issues saw him getting shelled in high A last year.
Again, as an NRI, I really don’t have any problem with it. This team will end up with 2-3 starting pitching NRIs and will probably end up keeping at least 1 for AAA. I still wouldn’t want to give up anything for any of them.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 1, 2009 8:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll just have to disagree
but here is a guy in KC who likes Hill too for the same reasons I do just for your reading pleasure (from mlbtr):
http://royalsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node%2F225
However, I feel that I must say that your desire to see all those bullpen spares (i leave Diamond as a SP until the trade deadline at least) instead of hill does not make your case very strongly…
by Goyogringo on Feb 1, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They are better bets to be effective in the bullpen
While not all of them have the same potential, they all are more likely to be effective out of the bullpen than Hill.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 3, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jennings
He didn’t suck in Colorado.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 31, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He sucked for 3 years in colorado
and was just an ave SP the year he won ROY. So one excellent year in the bigs, 2006? Adam loving on Jennings is like Adam loving on Wright…
by Goyogringo on Feb 1, 2009 2:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor defense mixed with Coors field
His ERA was never that nice, but he was pretty solid from 03-05 when he was 24-26. And Jennings was also better than average the year he won ROY, when he was just 23.
Also, Wright had just one season where he was above league average in ERA+ in what could be considered most of a full season (25 starts and a relief outing). He had never pitched a full season as a starter where he saw his ERA+ higher than 91.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 1, 2009 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was being facetious
playing solely on Adam’s hate for Wright (in the bullpen). Having said that, I still can’t believe there is even a modicum of Jennings love in this forum…
by Goyogringo on Feb 1, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jennings
If you look at his FIPs in Colorado, he was a league average pitcher or better pretty much his whole time there.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 1, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was a #4 starter on average.
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by tyd3311 on Feb 1, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I diasagree
that signing Tek kills the Tex – Boston possible deal. They really need a young catcher for him to mentor. It may not happen but I still think it could
by BEW on Jan 31, 2009 10:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No they don't.
They’re probably going to sign Mauer when he becomes a FA after the ‘10 season. That’s why they signed Varitek to be a stopgap for 2 years, not just 1.
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by Rangerchick on Jan 31, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The BoSox...
aren’t going to be content with the production Varitek is going to give them for 2 more seasons. The guy simply can’t hit anymore and his arm isn’t good either.
They will pick up another catcher somewhere before 2011.
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by slc ranger on Jan 31, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
they aren’t going to accept pitcher level batting from a starting catcher for two years. I expect them to be in rumors for catchers from now through July.
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by t ball on Jan 31, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a 2nd year option
I’m guessing that Boras and Varitek wanted that more than the Red Sox and that was holding up some of the negotiations. Another year like last year’s from Varitek (which could actually be a best case scenario for him), and Varitek won’t be getting anything but the league minimum. This deals put another few million dollars in his pockets guaranteed before he retires.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jan 31, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Twins would be
foolish to not extend Mauer. Unless of course if it is a Mark Teixeira type of situation.
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by RangerMad on Jan 31, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And what kind of foolishness
would it be for a team to just count on signing a guy two seasons from now? A million things could happen in that time.
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by t ball on Jan 31, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet against that, actually.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Jan 31, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well i'd prefer extra money go to a reliever or making sure we get sheets
but disregarding money I kind of like the pudge idea (if we had traded a catcher).
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 31, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Please don't bring back Pudge
Because if that happens as soon as the young catcher even starts to struggle the local pressure to play a “Ranger legend” would be crazy. Im sorry but of veteran backup catchers Pudge would be the absolute worst to bring in here. I love the guy and cherished his times here but that was then. Its time to move on to a young guy.
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by bigsteve on Jan 31, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah,
and I don’t think Pudge will quietly ride the pine, and his bat is no longer worth playing at any position but catcher.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Jan 31, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if pudge wouldn't sit on the bench
Then he wouldn’t sign here. JD wouldn’t promise him playing time.
I agree that the money can be better spent elsewhere though.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jan 31, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1,000,000
That Gold Glove for Young was the worst thing that could have happened to Texas - now the guy really believes he's good at short. - Keith Law
by lonestarJon on Jan 31, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the last day of the DMN covering the Rangers?
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by oc on Jan 31, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
jd better trade another one of our catchers.
im not very confident that moscoso or whatever is gonna be any good
by Stevoo on Jan 31, 2009 12:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did you check out the Fort Worth Stock Show and Rodeo?
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by oc on Jan 31, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
with the earlier posts that 2-3 mil could help sign one or two of the bullpen arms available, which might actually help this team win a few more games. Why in the heck would they even consider spending that amount on Pudge, who if here, should only play 1 out of every 6-7 games. Makes NO sense-sounds like a Hicksian “sell tickets” move.
FWIW, two solid BP guys might help this team more than Sheets for the same or less money.
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by randyd on Jan 31, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see Joe Beimel in Texas
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by Josey Wales on Jan 31, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see the phillies are intersting in will ohman
Which just made me think of the great philly lefty Fabio Castro.
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by DSheppard on Jan 31, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he would have been a star here
philly messed him up. connor would have made him a legit ace
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by ab03 on Jan 31, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because Jim Reeves said the Rangers considered Pudge
Doesn’t mean it got very far. Thad Levine saying “hey, wanna talk to Pudge’s agent?” and JD replying “hmmm….no” would be "considering Pudge.
I’m pretty sure JD realizes that Sheets and the likes of Joe Beimel would be much more helpful to this team than paying Pudge $3 million as a backup catcher, not to mention the added headache of Galloway and Reeves constantly clamoring for Pudge to start.
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by WestTxAg06 on Jan 31, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it may have gotten more consideration than that.
Let’s say they deal one of Salty or Tea, but they really want to give Max time in AAA to see if he can improve his defense and stick at catcher. The remaining starter might benefit from an experienced hand around. I don’t personally feel Pudge is the best guy for that necessarily, but I can see the logic. No way would they put Max in Arlington as the 2nd catcher, and I think they only see Melhuse as an emergency guy.
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by t ball on Jan 31, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to think...
…there’s a better chance they’d go with Melhuse in the veteran mentor role than Pudge.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 31, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see that
I think Pudge won’t outhit Melhuse by much and wouldn’t be any more of a mentor.
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by t ball on Jan 31, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side....
With no deal in sight for our young catchers…it frees up that 2-3 million to be spent in areas of need (namely the bullpen)
Sign Sheets first…
then use that extra money to sign gagne guardado…and then maybe try to give a NRI to a few more (foulke, Isringhausen) so that we do not have to rely on turnbow to revive his career.
by death of the cool on Jan 31, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Reeves
is just excited that someone in Arlington (el presidente) will talk to him again.
I bet Nolan could get him to write anything he wanted. The little old man had his head so far up Nolan’s ass, I almost feel bad for him. Do Ranger fans give him any credibility? – he hasn’t been relevant for 2 decades.
by JPenn on Jan 31, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm really sick of any talk about a catcher to Boston trade.
I just don’t see it happening. Holding on to our assets at this stage doesn’t hurt us. Potentially, each one of the three we have could gain value during the season. If Max shows he can be an everyday catcher at Oklahoma, his value increases sharply. If Salty begins to hit to his potential and doesn’t look like a complete butcher behind the plate, his value will go up as well. Tea is fine the way he is and I would still like to see him in place as our everyday catcher for the next several seasons (I don’t think his ’08 minor league batting numbers are truly indicative of his talent with the bat).
If Salty and Tea become ML proven this season, then more teams will line up willing to deal top pitching prospects for them. If they don’t, then we’ll still be able to get some value (though not nearly as much) for them next offseason. Patience is a virtue.
by Athos on Jan 31, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Everything you said is true and I agree, but
you’re going to hear trade rumors until someone is dealt, at the very least through this summer. I am really hoping both Max and Salty look good defensively and raise their value.
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by t ball on Jan 31, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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