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Closer? Late Night Chatter?

I posted this on another thread that is 10 hours old and thought maybe some of you who are still up may want to rant?

It’s funny. I have heard a lot of talk about competing in 09’ and I just think it is nearly impossible for this team to compete with CJ Wilson as it’s closer. We might be able to hide a weak 3B, but no closer and and a iffy starting rotation mean 80 wins at best (again)!

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..Frank Francisco is the defacto closer

and was unscored upon in his final 14 outings.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jan 4, 2009 1:51 AM CST reply actions  

I think this team has bigger issues

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 4, 2009 1:56 AM CST reply actions  

This was 76 win talent last year according to Pythagorus...

the pitching, defense and manager are all the same and an offense that scored 901 runs lost one of their biggest cogs plus the A’s look to be improved.

Currently constructed, 72 wins.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jan 4, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

And don't forget

They still have the same GM. That puts them down another 10 games right?

by matteo25 on Jan 4, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true.

But it does put “this thing” up 10 donuts and a few “Boy Blunder’s” up on everyone else in “The Show”.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jan 4, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

When you give up 967

runs, commit 132 errors and your team is “led” by a manager as dumb as Ron Washington -

Yes, you have “a steaming pile.”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jan 4, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

That still doesn't explain

how this team managed to lose 4 games from its Pythagorean last year and 6 games from their second and third order win/loss records.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 4, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Josey says

Daniels has been lollygagging.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 4, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

x

Consider this thread (ahem) closed out.

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by LSJ on Jan 4, 2009 2:34 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Did you just...?

I’m speechless

"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland

by chrisR on Jan 4, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

This pun brought to you by:

Your Dad.

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by LSJ on Jan 4, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

This is the creepiest one yet.

Even more so than the kokopelli one.

I can imagine the dude in his profile pic chained up in HH’s basement.

by LiamP on Jan 4, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Each screen name

is a life taken. (cue theremin music).

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 4, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Gee, and here I am

listening to High ‘N’ Dry…and having flashbacks…

You damn highbrow, you!

Get off my freakin lawn!!!

:)

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jan 4, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Will he ever

shrug the tag of being known as “the guy who threw that chair” to fans of other teams? Even if he posts even a couple of seasons of +30 saves while blowing heat by AL hitters?

by jonthefon on Jan 4, 2009 4:46 AM CST reply actions  

+1

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 4, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

+2

Did Jon Daniels downsize your old position at Dunking Donuts?

by LSJ on Jan 4, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

+3

Your 2010 Texas Rangers starting shortstop....(see pic)

by Kinslerhomer on Jan 4, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I do

I’m happy he threw a chair at that bitch. The only thing I hate is that he didn’t get the jerk-off husband.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 4, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The husband is just as much of a dick

For what they both said to Brocail.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 4, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

You think

There are words that justify what he did?

by brettgardner on Jan 4, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I know you weren't asking me...

But I think it depends on what we’re talking about him doing.

Are there words that justify him trying to inflict a nice dose of pain on some asshole guy who was really, really asking for it? Yah, I believe so. I think there are some cases where a guy just goes too far and deserves to get his nose bloodied over it.

Are there words that justify hitting a woman in the face with a chair? No. Never.

The main problem I have with what Franky did that day is that the dude ducked.

by thedirkatron on Jan 4, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

No, you're right. I'll amend it.

The main problem(s) I have with what Franky did that day is that the dude ducked(, and that Franky got caught).

by thedirkatron on Jan 4, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The A's ballpark staff should have done something

to quell the situation. The Rangers had been telling security all day about the Buenos. If you ask me MLB should have stepped in after words and talked to the A’s ballpark security and staff and how to handle stuff like this.

I have seen ushers at TBiA escort fans out in my section for things like that.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 4, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it isn't

But if some guy off the streets comes up to you and said what that guy said, what would you do?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 4, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

And particularly not in that situation.

You are a public figure. Part of being an athlete is getting heckled. It is something you should be used to by the time you get to the majors.

The idea that someone in the crowd said something so heinous, something so bad that it was worse than anything any fan had ever said to a player before, and thus justified throwing a chair into a crowd (where it could have hit anyone), is silly.

The incessant need by Ranger fans to try to suggest that Frankie’s actions that night were warranted is also silly. He shouldn’t have done it. He screwed up. And then he paid the price. Let’s all just move on.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 4, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a pretty good idea about what was said

This is the same argument Bonds supporters use when they say you can’t say Bonds used steroids. Can I say without a doubt what was said, no. But I’m taking the players’ words on this one.

And if I just lost a baby and went through that and had someone heckling me about that, I would probably lose it too.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 4, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Except...

…if you believe the stories, it wasn’t the person who was being heckled about that topic who “lost it.” It was someone else.

I haven’t heard any particular player vouch for that story, fwiw. If you have, I’ll defer to you.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 4, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll see if I can find some quotes about it

I could be wrong about remembering the players saying it, but I dn’t think so.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 4, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

There are various stories...

…all unsubstantiated, about what was said.

Regardless, I don’t think it makes throwing a chair into the stands justifiable.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 4, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Short of

“I’m the one who killed your family” I can’t think of anything that would justify it.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 4, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't really matter.

Besides, from what I heard about the debacle, I would have thrown a chair too. Maybe more.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by The Best Micah on Jan 4, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

A while back Cowlishaw wrote an article

explaining that FF’s chair throw was the lowest point in Rangers history. So, I wrote back and said that Lenny Randle’s KO of the manager was worse. He would have none of it. He said he discussed it with his editor and wouldn’t budge from his stance. What can you do?

"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer

by rodcarew on Jan 4, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

it will help him, the batters will live in fear of a chair being thrown at them instead of a ball

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 4, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

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