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Oklahoma and Florida play for the right to say "We only had one more loss than Utah!"

Predictions?

I'm going with 34-24 Florida.

I really don't know what else to say... I'm really bad at hitting the word minimum. So, how was everyone's January 8th?

 

Suzy Kolber: Joe, it's been a tough season for Jets fans. What does it mean to you now that the team is struggling?

Joe Namath: I wanna kiss you. I couldn't care less about the team struggling. What we know is we can improve. Chad Pennington, our quarterback, missed the first part of the season, and we struggled. We're looking to next season, we're looking to make a noise now and ... I wanna kiss you!

SK: Thanks Joe! I'll take that as a huge compliment ... [Namath in background: YEAH!!!!] Joe Namath, part of the four-decade team. We'll see these guys at halftime.

 

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BOOMER freakin’ SOONER!!

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, buddy...

GO GATORS!

2008 BCS National Champs!!!!!

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boomer Sooners!

If they win OR the combined score is 58 pts. or more, I win $82. And I need that $$$$$

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Sorry the Sooners will score more that 14.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You sound like Tom Brady

pre-SB.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

I know the Gators D is very good but be that as it man the Sooners have a great O. The Gators keep saying the Sooners haven’t seen a D like theirs this year but on the flip side the Gators have not seen an offense like the Sooners all year.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess not...

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol boomer

more than 14 eh?

by cashman on Jan 10, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I want OU to win

I’ve never liked Florida. But I think Florida takes it

by JBImaknee on Jan 8, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

uggh

go florida i guess.

30-28

Obama vs Palin in 2012. bring her on!

by gossamer on Jan 8, 2009 6:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

for me it comes down to despising tebow and meyer more than ou

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Florida has been so hyped

we’ll see what they are both made of tonight

is the hype real?

is OU’s offense for real?

Wait 'til the year after next

by NothinG on Jan 8, 2009 6:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I choose to watch the HR derby replay on MLB tv instead, woo.

well, the hamilton part anyway.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jan 8, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I DVRed that on the MLB Network

So I can put it on DVD later :)

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Can I get a copy of it?

I’m willing to pay you for shipping, etc.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I get goosebumps

when the Yankee Stadium crowd chants “Hamilton, Hamilton”

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure...send me an e-mail

laney895@hotmail.com

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sent!

Thanks!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

really only the first round

the later rounds are kind of a beating with the commentary.

also, i really start to feel sorry for the old guy’ and his arm.

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oops

guess they mis-timed the flyover

by Randy Richardson on Jan 8, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

fox

is just awful at college football broadcasts

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gagree

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I like this broadcast crew. This is the same crew that did both Boise State – OU and Texas-USC. I thought they did a great job with those games.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

ive generally felt their broadcasts have been subpar with the exception of the sugar bowl.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well Fox or this specific broadcast team?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fox in general

for college games.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't TX -USC on ABC with Keith Jackson?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats what i thought too

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ABC

has an exclusive contract for the Rose Bowl.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is saying Florida will win

I think their speed might be too much for OU, but I’ll be cheering for OU!

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OU 24 - Florida 22

I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler

by ortonius on Jan 8, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone bored of CFB by now?

I used to love it, but now we have the National Championship, excuse me, BCS championship game, on January fucking 8th?

Back in the olden the days, they played all the cool game on 1/1 with the night game being the highlight. Then they moved it to 1/2, and I was cool with that. You spent all of New Years day eating and watching football, but on the the second, you thought “cool, I’d like to watch a little more football.”

This year we have freaking Tulsa and Ball State playing January 5th? This thing is basically over expansion. “Oh, you guys like bowl games? Then 28 more bowl game should be 28 times better!”

Why can’t they go back to New Years Day, you know, the day nobody worked. Thursday night football is awesome at the beginning of the season when baseball was over and no NFL to look forward to. Now? not so much.

Oh, and for a prediction, that one team wins, the other loses, Utah is #1.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 8, 2009 7:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They could have another game next week

and I wouldn’t be bored of it yet. Especially if it was as good of a matchup as the one tonight.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is that we didn't have that many great bowl games

We need a Boise – OU game every year imo.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sick as that may be

for me to admit it you are right.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you? lol

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That game was the greatest

And what day was it? New Years day. I spent New Year’s Eve and day in Deadwood SD. Watched the game in a basement cigar bar (Seth Bullock’s original jail was where they stored their cold beer outside). Sat on a nice leather couch by a fireplace, smoked a great cigar, drank beer and watched that game.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 8, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agree

i was saying that to someone around new years, that when i was a kid it was a lot cooler because ALL the games were on the 1st and it was just a huge ass day of football then it was done.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sucks Murray's not playing

Not that I want OU to win, just would like each team to have a full healthy team.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gagree

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

dick meet dirt

by chief on Jan 8, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What a douch throw by Bradford

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

bradford

i still cant get past the fact that he looks 14

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Should've been a flag

The WR was hit before the ball was there.

by hiafex on Jan 8, 2009 7:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Watch it again. He was just a tiny bit early.

by hiafex on Jan 8, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what was that?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

spoke too soon

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He has to throw that away...

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I do

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're welcome

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Question

Last night at 8PM DirecTV gave me HD for my local channels. So now I have 2 channels show up on the guide (one HD / one non-HD) for my local channels just like ESPN or any other channel with HD.

Did this happen for all customers last night or was it just in my area (North Carolina)?

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just in your area

I have had this for a while

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, thanks

Guess we finally did enough bitching???

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha exactly

but is it ever really enough>

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They're just getting ready for HD deadline

All channels have to be in HD on February something.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 8, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not if obama has his way

and i don’t think the two are related actually

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What does obama want?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

postpone the shutting down of analog channels

the analog to digital converter box program ran out of money and basically a lot of people will be without tv if this happens and the transition to digital really wasn’t supposed to do that

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

vouchers

it also takes about a month to even get the vouchers

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I do too

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Tebow will play a position that isn't QB in the NFL

discuss.

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

no

eric crouch didn’t even try (till it was too late). tebow will stick around a bit longer

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WR or H-back

and he’ll be alright, nothing great

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

bowl game length

one thing ive noticed is how freaking long the bowl games have gotten with all these reviews.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea what this review is about

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Looked like a bad spot

at least from the angle that FOX gave us.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 7:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What a terrible throw

I want to know how the media is gonna spin that in Tebow’s favor

by chief on Jan 8, 2009 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tebow's arm was tired

from all that work he did helping sick kids in Africa over the summer?

"Sooner or later, prospects kill you, because you hang onto them." - Greggo, 11/22/2005

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Greatness

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have $700 riding on the Sooners

I can’t believe I’m going to root for them……

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's a lot of money

I’m glad I only miss out on $82 if the Sooners lose.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

$82?

What kind of points are you getting? 2.5%?

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 8, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a $5 entry...

…and 22 people got in. We didn’t do the points thing, just picked the winners. I’m leading, at 23-9, but my boss is right behind me. I have OU, she has FL. If FL wins, it goes to the tiebreaker, which had us predict the amount of points scored in the game. I picked 58, and she picked 38. So in order for me to win, OU has to win, or the combined score has to be 49 or more.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

When I said “points” I meant the percentage you’re paying your bookie. Nevermind.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 8, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

139 people put in $55

if OU wins I’ll probably finish 4th which would get me about $700

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fuck

I could’ve really used that

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

that was such a beautiful throw and catch.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

#72 needs to get some scene control

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

These refs blow

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this officiating crew sucks

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Cherry

Is screwing the crap out of OU tonight..

I’m used to biased refs, so I can spot it easily.

Even though I’m rooting for UF, OU is getting screwed..

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Aww...

…I love the love for Graham :-)

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

wow that was like watching soft-porn.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

STFU about Tebow already

He’s going to make me pull for OU by the time the night is over.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 7:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Do you wanna know why teams fire coaches these days

Like it’s going out of style?

Because it works.

Look at Urban Meyer and Nick Saban, once they were brought in to FL and AL…

Urban, I dunno how involved he is in that UF offense, but it’s purty..

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Your logic is flawed. Go tell that to SMU.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No it isnt

Firing your coach works. Thats why they do it so much.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That implies that the replacement coach is of high-quality

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Technically

If firing the coach works.

It really would not be done so much, right?

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo!

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Give him time

He’ll turn SMU around.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Belichick

nice to see a cheater in the house.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sports Forums + Game Thread

With those powers combined. Has there ever been a game played that the refs were not screwing someone? Or someone was on the take? Or it was the worst officiated game of all time?

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Cowboys fan buddy

I know biased refs.

Ron Cherry likes UF.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm yeah

Dallas Miami series was worst officiated game ever. Everything else is below it.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

*series

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not so much that they are bad

Just they keep slowing the game down with the clock

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They fucked OU HUGE

On two calls so far..

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But unfortunately thats one of the risks of the hurry up especially in these bowl games where the refs are from conferences that may never see it and the equipment may not be what they are used to. Hopefully they get it straightened out. Good game so far.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares about that

More important is when OU hit a pass down to the 10, and the refs called some BS hold and moved it back to the OU48. Thats 42 fricken yards.

And there was another likewise huge penalty against OU before that I forget the details of..

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!!!!! lol

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Holding

I wouldn’t be suprised to see a ton of holding calls tonight from an ACC crew. For some reason the Big 12 refs forgot what holding was and let teams get away with tackling almost. In these bowl games it will be interesting to see if it gets called more which may affect OU way more than Florida

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Refs/Officials/Umps

They’ve been the cause of many teams losing games for many, many years.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tebow is a beast

Since you guys are starting to whine about the announcer man love for Tebow, it’s starting to make me hope he runs for about 900 yards.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy it Tebow

cause ur gonna suck on Sundays.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The dude's a good player

and he’s really a great kid, but come on; enough is enough.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What if Tim Tebow and JJ Reddick had a baby.

It would be the second coming of Jesus for ESPN

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Booomer!

Sooner!

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Moving the ball down the field quick

That didn’t take long to answer

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

great drive by OU

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bradford

is > McCoy, Tebow, Sanchez.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

With that said....

If I’m Detroit, I would take Bradford out of all of them.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What round do you expect those QBs to go in?

I’d like to see the Cowboys to pick up McCoy in the 3rd round if possible.

by hiafex on Jan 8, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

McCoys not going pro this year

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh

Thanks. Didn’t know that.

by hiafex on Jan 8, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

McCoy is coming back so we will see what happens next year

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Brad Johnson is 6"5

Colt is about 5"11

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really have no idea on Sanchez or Tebow

Bradford easily 1st round / Top 5. If McCoy comes back for his Sr year and has another year like this year, he will not be a 3rd rounder.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sanchez has potential to be really good as a pro too

I imagine 1st or 2nd rounder.
Stafford and Bradford will be top 5 picks thogh.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

OU made that look easy.

by Athos on Jan 8, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hitzges

made a big deal about FLA speed on D. OK looks just as fast.

Mitch Moreland - Rangers 2009 Minor League Player of the Year

by RangerMad on Jan 8, 2009 8:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that pass wasnt great...

it was nearly intercepted!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 8:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is DShepp here?

I’m wondering if we can get video of the Rod Barajas walk off against the Yankees.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why do all announcers

pronounce Oklahoma like “OAK… lahoma” ?

by chief on Jan 8, 2009 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

But.....But....

Tebow is SUPERMAN! THIS CANT BE HAPPENING!

HE LOVES JESUS TO MUCH FOR THIS ?!?!

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that interception made the baby jesus cry

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't quite get why if someone has a strong Christian faith he gets bashed.

You may believe differently, but come on. Somehow the fact that he has his beliefs makes him a lesser athlete?

by rraider on Jan 9, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

did i say that?

No.
But the media makes it out like he walks on water.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because hes actually a good guy?

come on, its not like he is tooting his own horn

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The criticism is not of Tebow

it is of the media’s love affair with him.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Put this in the wrong spot.

I was actually referring to Salty’s comment.

by rraider on Jan 9, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mel Kiper has a radio show and Tebow called in

and Kiper asked if Tebow knows how to catch. Tebow goes, I guess because I catch the snap every play. Then Kiper said he thinks of him as a Chris Cooley type.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If OU wins

If OU wins I will go jump in my pool which is only 52 degrees right now. lol

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

There is a lot of football left...

chillax.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would find a Big XII official to hug

for making such a stupid ass 3 way tie, tie breaking system.

by Chris Hanes on Jan 8, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

how do you not put the ball in your heisman winner’s hands?

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Dumb call.

That may come back to haunt them.

by Athos on Jan 8, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

very bold call

you’d think in a game like this you’d take the 3 points

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Duhon has 22 points at half vs. Dallas

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Durrrrr, hi

My name is saltygoesyard, I’m an Obama voting retard

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Wes Craven re-making his own movie?

This version looks awful.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/thelasthouseontheleft/large_t1.html

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

ur so pissed about the game it’s funny

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pissed at LSB retards

The game is going OK, though I’m pretty worried cus UF’s defense is prolly shit

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

They can’t stop OU when OU is in the no-huddle.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am very sick of these type of movies

Can we get back to Freddy, Jason (Hell yes by the way) and evil demons?

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This movie was Wes Craven's first film (1972)

it’s on youtube. Really raw but not bad. This re-make looks awful and technology wouldn’t allow for this to even take place now.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hi my name is saltygoesyard

I like talking about stupid movies on a sports message board. I like Barack Obama. I think rednecks are pretty cool thats why I love me some boomer sooner yeeeehawww.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hi I'm Sharky

I secretly love Obama…almost as much as I secretly have a lesbian crush on Rachel Maddow and her short haircut. You make me sick, Sharky.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs right now.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I feel your pain

I was in the stands for the 2008 final four.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All this talk about the Big XII D

And yet it is only 7-7 with 2 min left

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Always have to stir up talking points

When they could of summed it up with.

SEC offense sucks, Big 12 offenses are epic.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hi I'm Sharky

I guest-blog on the Huffington Post.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nice

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What a moron

why didn’t he go out of bounds.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sharky

Going into a big game who would your rather have

Romo or Bradford?

I’m thinkin Bradford.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

that throw was so stupid…not even in the end zone if he caught it.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

Two costly turnovers at the goalline. Florida is fortunate to be in this game right now but OU could really hurt later on because of those missed opportunities

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

When a team I’m rooting for does that, they always end up losing. Since I’m not really rooting for (or against) OU, they might still have a chance though.

by Athos on Jan 8, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Oklahoma’s offense has been a massive FAIL inside the 10 tonight.

by Athos on Jan 8, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but...

The Sooners have driven the ball to the 3 yard line twice and not scored. I bet it will end up 28-10 or something like that.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Enough time

For a versus game on Left 4 Dead

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How good is that game?

I’m thinking about getting it. One of the funnest online multi-players you’ve ever played?

by hiafex on Jan 8, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What is this?

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Its a zombie game on Xbox 360/PC

From Valve, makers of the half life series.

Supposed to be a good game, I’ve not played it.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

is half life the best computer game out?

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It is very awesome

I suggest you buy it immediatly.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OT- Baseball CBA compensation

Does anyone know when a team is no longer going to receive FA compensation for a former player? If he doesn’t sign by the start of the season, Spring Training , a full calender year, forever?

by laxtonto on Jan 8, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I would guess its one full calendar year

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 8, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Longest halftime ever

and Mavs are losing in the 3rd to NY Knicks @ home…wtf.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

up 80-78 after 3

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i’m watching.

i wasn’t really making a rule or anything. just a loose observation.

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I’m just saying we made a comeback.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dirk was returning to MVP form the past few games

struggling tonight though.

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

don't want to jinx it

but i don’t think dirk will be needed tonight.

mavericks are a really frustrating team. remind me of the jazz in their twilight

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or Sacramento I think

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

lots of 3’s

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That guy stepped out of bounds when he caught it!

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

On another note

I just got my Rangers 10 packs of tickets.

Glorrrious.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What teams?

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sick

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Back to the Sooners

See what they can do now.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Might not be the Sooners night.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OT: Mavs win 99-94

Dallas is now 22-13

Wreck 'Em Tech!!

by Joker'z on Jan 8, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mavs win in craptacular fashion again

i understand what hollinger is thinking when he says the mavs might not make the playoffs but they do keep on winning

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

One injury away.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 7:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

now that was a huge stop

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by hinduplaya on Jan 8, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

so

chief’s prediction is looking pretty good right about now, if OU can even get to 14 points

Mandatory reading before suggesting a trade

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

And I made fun of him. lol

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually aimed too high, I think

21-14 is more likely at this point

by chief on Jan 8, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the big question

Does Utah get some first place votes since this game has been low scoring?

by chief on Jan 8, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What about USC?

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

utah

undefeated, that trumps usc

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

maybe not

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes yes yes!!!

Hell mother fucking yes!!

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gators

must get a td here

by meatbonelefty on Jan 8, 2009 10:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bradford getting screwed

Receivers dropping his golden rainbows.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah that wasn't his fault

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

his receivers are really not helping him, both int’s were the receivers fault.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is an angry whopper

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 10:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ou

has certainally proven they belong there. other teams might too and thats why a playoff is needed but you can’t say the matchup is wrong.

by selppuc on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

texas/utah/usc/ou all had reasons to be there, it was just OU that went

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes i can

Texas beat ou and ou cant win a bowl game to save their life

by Stevoo on Jan 10, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The FedEx Penalty Bowl

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 10:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Game over

God I hate Tebow

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

but he's superman!

he does jeterlike jump passes and has lived with orpans and lepers!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's probably the nail in the coffin

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I can pretty much kiss that office pool win goodbye

…and maybe my trip to Texas for Opening Day (that money was going toward my flight).

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is." -Bob Feller

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe from now

OU and Ohio State should just play each other every year in the BCS.

Make it sort of a GMAC type bowl, after the national title has been decided.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 8, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

two happy people

Mike Rhyner and Derek Jeter.

"You’re the worst poster here I think."--- brettgardner

by red shoe ranger on Jan 8, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Great game

Florida is a great team later guys going to bed early day tomorrow.

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 10:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hmmm....

OU loses to Texas and Florida by 10….

should have been Texas

by death of the cool on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

usc

"And the Rangers looking to win it! The Rangers have won it!"
-- Josh Lewin, Sept 23, 2004

by Agreen07 on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

why USC

again compare the losses

alabama —> lost to florida
texas —> lost to tech
tech —> lost to OU
utah —> lost to…no one….
usc —> lost to oregon state

equally:
ou —> lost to texas
florida —> lost to ole miss

now does anyone think that a loss to oregon state is better than a loss to any of ole miss, texas, tech, ou, …no one…? no

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

in fact the matchups i wanted to see were

alabama vs texas
usc vs utah
ou vs florida (this is all after we found out OU/floriida were going to be playing each other)
va tech vs cincy

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Losing on the road to OSU

is not that bad. They finished top 20 in the AP poll. It’s not like USC lost to some crappy 3 win team. At this point you’re just splitting hairs.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

same logic

not like texas lost to some crappy team they lost to the team now ranked 12th

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not arguing that USC should be in over UT

I’m just saying a loss to OSU is treated like dogshit around here. They won 9 games and finished 18th. Come on.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

the loss to oregon state wasn’t as bad as florida’s loss to ole miss.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 8:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

do you think OSU would beat ole miss?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe/maybe not

but a loss to a team that didnt finish being ranked is much worse when it comes to the polls.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

correction

i forgot ole miss got ranked eventually.
the oregon state loss is about on par with ole miss in hindsight

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm actually if you have that viewpoint i guess the USC loss is better since it was on the road vs floridas being at home

goodp oint

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

that’s what I’m saying. They’re pretty much the same.

The only difference is one came on the road and one was at home.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It'd be a tossup

OSU won their bowl game without their top 2 offensive stars. Both teams healthy? I dunno, it’d be a close game that probably wouldn’t solve anything.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

right

but my response is that a loss to OSU is a worse loss than any of the other “top teams” – not saying its like losing to baylor or aTm but its not like losing to florida or someone like that

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok then we disagree

we can move on here.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agree to disgree haha

hey i was someone who orig thought that OSU was a crappy team, that was before they beat oregon though lol

its not a bad loss, ie baylor

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well they didn't beat Oregon

But, they’re better than you give them credit for, I assure you.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oops flipped that i think?

yes, they are better than i thought they were

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oregon state is not even in the same class as any of the teams listed though

+ pac 10 > SEC/Big XII

so is oregon state the 2nd best team in either the sec or big 12? no
are they the 3rd best team in either league? no
4th? maybe?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I could reasonably argue

that OSU is in the same class as Tech and Ole Miss.

Again though, USC’s loss isn’t what kept them out — it was a lack of marquee wins that the other teams had. Certainly UT has the best loss of that group, but beyond that it’s pretty much equal IMO.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good point on the lack of marquee wins (and truly that can be a lot placed on the pac 10 not having “top teams” like SEC and big XII) – so not really as much of a knock against uSC either

like i said above i would have LOVED to see USC/Utah and Texas/Alabama

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oregon St...

is a pretty good team, but I can’t see why anyone would think that USC should be in the NC game over Utah when Utah beat the team that USC lost to.

The’re a great team with a great defense, but little to no case to be ahead of Utah in my bias opinion.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 9, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gagree

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Texas

Shoulda lost to OHio St..

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

If the game ended with 43 seconds left, than Texas would have beaten Tech and been undefeated. USC would have an argument if they didn’t lose to a horrible Oregon State team. When you lose to a team that bad, you have no argument that you should be in the national title game.

by uthornfan on Jan 8, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oregon State is horrible?

6 point loss on the road to a team that finished in the top 25. Yep, that is just horrible

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

like i said above

their loss is worse than texas/ou/florida/albama/tech and utah didnt lose at all

what is USC’s arguement?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're splitting hairs

Who cares at this point? Nobody will ever play the “we finished #2 and you finished #3 in the final AP poll” card. It doesn’t matter.

I’m not necessarily arguing that they deserved to be in the title game. I’m disagreeing that their loss is significantly worse than any of the others.

It wasn’t the loss that should disqualify them — it should be their relative lack of better wins.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just like...

the TX/OU game…the TX/USC championship game

by Captain Snappy on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

all you texas fans are funny

OU is apparently so overrated yet you are banking your entire season off beating them. texas was one play away from an embarrassing loss to the crappy big 10 in their bowl game, and lost to texas tech which has since been exposed as a gimmick team.

by selppuc on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Banking the season...

on wins over four teams ranked in the top 11 and one last second loss.

by Captain Snappy on Jan 8, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

a gimmick team, eh?

tech is kind of like the suns were for a while, they will win a LOT but will never win a championship as they were set up (diaw, nash, etc)

kind of like TT – is there any possible way for them to be better next year if crabtree/harrell both leave? i dobut it

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We were also one play away from not having to play that crappy Big 10 team

We would have been playing in the game last night.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 9, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good game though

Like I always said, that Charlie Strong is a defensive genius

Bradford didnt impress me much, He doesn’t seem to have field presence and seems kinda short.

I didn’t feel like UF could consistently stop OU’s offense watching this game, but they did it enough, and got enough turnovers.

Tebow wasnt very good throwing either. But why isn’t he a NFL prospect? Too short I assume?

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

because while he is a good college QB, hes not a NFL QB

hes kind of like a less than vince young lol

but that said, put vince young in that florida offense this year and …damn…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So, how long till we hear all of the backlash for Texas not making the Big 12 title game?

That and will it be considered running up the score it FL scores late?

And here goes the chants of overrated

by laxtonto on Jan 8, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Stoops chokes yet again.

"Obama is a Christian - He's always been a Christian...But.........what if he is[a Muslim]? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer is no, that's not America." Colin Powell on Obama/Muslim assertions.

by AirJordan on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

just out of curiosity

does anyone think the result would have been different if the game had been played the week after the big 12 and sec champ games rather than a month and a half after?? Although you have to give all the credit to the Gators, it seemed as if OU’s offense was really rusty

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by hinduplaya on Jan 8, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Big Game Bob

Is he becoming the Marv Levy of college football?

by Captain Snappy on Jan 8, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WOW

well, bradford’s stock dropped big time. He better come back for another year.

But man, that was one ugly game.

by Longhorn on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep. OU beat themselves tonight ...

with those two disastrous drives that fizzled inside the 10.

by Athos on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say they fizzled...

…I’d say the better team came up with huge defensive stands. Give the Gator defense some credit – they came up big when they needed to do…

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Flodia’s d played good, but ou also made some pretty bad plays calls at the goal line.
neither team looked “great” tonight but out of all the units florida’s d looked like they came the most prepared and ready.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 6:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait...

To hear all the OU fans calling for Stoops head…love it

by Captain Snappy on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

FLA shoulda kicked the FG

So they could say they beat OU by 13 and shut the damn Texas fans up..such as this guy.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/8/714876/bcs-national-championship#11271740

Course they really couldnt, under the national spotlight they would looked uber classless.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also

Texas will be number 1 in the computers.

by Longhorn on Jan 8, 2009 10:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

So the 2 beating the 1, wont get the 2 into 1, by the computers?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 7:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Guess not.......

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But yeah you really look at it

I dont think either of these teams is clearly better.

OU scores twice instead of turns it over twice in those red zone tries, it’s 28-24.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

...but you know

THEY DIDN’T.

LOL Sorry the Sooners will score more that 14. - boomer1

by venturafearsnolan on Jan 8, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

except OU lost....

which makes Florida better.

by death of the cool on Jan 8, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me

or is Tebow pretty easy to root against? I can’t remember ever rooting for OU in a game, but I couldn’t help but hope they’d beat that guy.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 8, 2009 11:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tebow

Was a beast!

I would hate to be rooting for the other team watching him do that shit..prolly annoying as hell watching him run for 7 yards over and over.

by Sharky on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

th ats ok

we will be watching him sit the bench in the NFL

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who can't root for Tebow...

…either doesn’t appreciate greatness or is too jaded to recognize it… The guy is the definition of a winner AND champion!

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

Harvin is a MUCH better player than Tebow and had a better game than Tebow, but that doesn’t mean Tebow isn’t awesome, it just means Harvin is other-worldly.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm, no...

I am, and will always be a diehard Gator fan. Tebow has solidified his place in college football history as one of the top, if not the #1, player in the history of the game. (Not statistically, but when you factor everything else in the guy can make a pretty strong argument.)

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So Jeter...

best SS in MLB history?

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

for the back-up…

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve noticed

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I know THAT was sarcasm...

…comparing Tebow to Jeter is classic Apples and Oranges.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

So, if not statistically, then what other factors are you including?

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Jan 8, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Two championships...

…One Heisman, another final 3 finish in the Heisman voting, a chance to win a 3rd championship and a 2nd Heisman next year. If he comes back next year and the Gators get to a BCS game, there’s no question that he’d have to be considered the greatest college player ever. Again, you’ll always be able to find players with better stats, but very few players can compete with the completeness of his resume.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty thin.

You’re going to base it on a voted-upon award and championships? So Jeter sounds just like your man.

by brettgardner on Jan 8, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What matters more than...

…championships? His winning smile and volunteer work? Give me a break – you might not like Tebow, but saying he’s the Jeter of college football just comes across as ignorant. I’m a Gator fan in a Longhorn/Sooner world here at LSB, so I understand I’m in the minority here, but I’ll enjoy the bragging rights and the appreciation for the guy that carried the Gators to this championship.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's stupid.

He’s a very good player, but even very good players need a good team around them. Giving an individual all the credit for winning a championship “comes across as ignorant” as you so eloquently put it.

Why don’t you mention something about how he plays rather than what Florida accomplishes?

As for “bragging rights”? Whatever. Grow up man. I don’t give a shit-and-a-half about either Florida or OU, I’m just trying to be reasonable in the midst of your ridiculousness.

by brettgardner on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For perspective, Tebow...

…is probably my fourth or fifth favorite player on this Gator team. Some of his hype drives me crazy, as he’s clearly not a sure-fire NFL star. Percy Harvin is the best player and will be the best pro. Brandon Spikes is a complete stud and will probably be an All-Pro several times in the NFL (not that that honor means much either)… With that all said, Tebow is still the glue. The guy simply knows what it takes to win and what it takes to get everyone around him to play better.

Call my statements ridiculous if you will, but I’ve got a full calendar year to enjoy this championship, and I fully intend to do that,

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Resume

I’ll give you the resume thing.

I have very little respect for Heisman voting…sorry, that will piss some off but I don’t have a high estimation of the honor. The first BCS championship I feel was more due to their defense and Leak than Tebow but, as you said, he can put it on his resume so people will always remember him for it.

If he comes back next year, fine, you can start talking about how great he is but, right now, I think that he is incredibly overrated.

And yes, Jeter/Tebow — Apples/Oranges but I feel the same about both. They are both the princesses of their respective media balls.

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Jan 8, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps we can agree to disagree?

I’ve got nothing against Oklahoma or any other program (other than FSU, USC and all of the other SEC teams), so I’m not trying to disrespect any one player or team (other than those just mentioned). To me, Harvin is the best PLAYER on the Gators, but Tebow means so much more to them in the big picture. He simply carried the team to this championship, both on the field and off. The guy defines winner, and in this case I think he lives up to the hype.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can agree to disagree...

…but, if he comes back next year, once the season is over we have to discuss this again.

I WILL FIND YOU! (which shouldn’t be hard on this site)

"I'm not being condescending, I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand." - Jimmy Carr

by Suicide Prince on Jan 8, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I look forward to the discussion!

Gator football and Ranger baseball are the two biggest things in my life (other than my family and friends), so I’ll definitely be back if the Gators are in the mix next season.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hah
so I’ll definitely be back if the Gators are in the mix next season.

Yep, bring out your fandom when they win. That helps your objectivity.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he defines winner

has a good face and plays the game the right way.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 6:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

tommy frazier> tebow

tebow is up there with the all time college football greats though.

by selppuc on Jan 8, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The guy from Nebraska?

Or am I thinking of the wrong player? If I’m thinking of the right guy, I think he was the QB when Nebraska crushed my Gators back in the ’90’s. That was a crappy night.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

Give me a break with this best player of all time crap.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Appreciate greatness when...

…you have a chance to witness it.

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Being a great player

and the best of all time are two very different things. I know it’s human nature to think the most recent thing you just saw is the best ever. But, please, get some perspective. CFB has been played for over 100 years and Tim Tebow is the absolute BEST player ever? Do you not realize how ridiculous that sounds?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You don't get it.

He plays for Florida! Duh!!!

by brettgardner on Jan 8, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If Rickey Henderson can call himself...

…the greatest, I can call Tebow the same. That’s the beauty of sports arguments. We can’t prove anything one way or the other, but it makes for some fun discussions. When it’s all said and done, it will be hard to say that Tebow doesn’t at least deserve consideration.

As for Henderson, that just crazy talk…

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 9, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, you can call him that

and I can call you idiotic. I guess it can work both ways.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

as for tebow

just crazy talk

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 6:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rangersfan

What year did you graduate from Florida?

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 9, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't go there, but my Dad...

…is a graduate of the class of 1958. I’m not a fan that’s able to separate fandom from anything else though, so some of my statements might be slightly biased. Nevertheless, I think my beliefs about Tebow, etc. are reasonable when everything is considered…

"Hello win column..."

by rangersfan34 on Jan 9, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

is tebow a better player than vince young

want to see your reasoning

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

greatness?

cmon, i about puked at the end when they dubbed him one of the top 5 college football players ever.
I admit he isn’t awful but best all time? thats bullshit right there.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 6:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

heres my question

is he a better player than vince young?

has he won a game essentially by himself yet?

could he have beaten the 05 “greatest college team ever”? lol

hes not top 5

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Stoops should be fired

before he gets on the plane back to Oklahoma. When you go to 4 NC games and only win one you should get fired. Any team like OU, Texas, USC, ND or Bama with the way the recruite should have enough talent to win more than 1 out of 4. JMO

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Are you serious?

"Obama is a Christian - He's always been a Christian...But.........what if he is[a Muslim]? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer is no, that's not America." Colin Powell on Obama/Muslim assertions.

by AirJordan on Jan 8, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just venting lol

Congrats Florida

Miami bound...

by boomer1 on Jan 9, 2009 7:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jerking the knee much?

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Jan 9, 2009 12:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Stoops

he’s just flat out been out coached in these bowl games.
but give the guy credit for getting to 4 freaking national title games

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 6:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

USC wasn't great until Pete Carrol

Alabama wasn’t good until Saban. Notre Dame isn’t good. And if you want OU to start trending downwards, fire Bob Stoops.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 7:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dang boomer

getting to 4 NC says something, doesnt it?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I hate OU...

Any school would be happy with 4 NC games from their coach….

by DirtyDawg on Jan 9, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The thing about Tebow...

…is that he isn’t a great quarterback in terms of tools. He’s not a particularly great thrower, and he’s not a world-beater runner, but he does them well enough to make you prepare and adjust for them.

What strikes me more about Tebow that makes him so dangerous is that he makes such terrific decisions, and he makes them fast. He reads very well, which is why his two interceptions (both of which were pretty bad reads) were so shocking.

Tommie Frazier had better tools, but Tebow arguably plays the game better.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Jan 9, 2009 12:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

He has big time tools.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 7:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Final AP top 5

1. Florida (48) 13-1 1,606 1
2. Utah (16) 13-0 1,519 7
3. Southern Cal (1) 12-1 1,481 5
4. Texas 12-1 1,478 3
5. Oklahoma 12-2 1,391 2

I think I’d have ordered that Utah, Florida, Texas, USC, OU

by chief on Jan 9, 2009 5:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Florida
Texas
USC
Utah
Oklahoma.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 7:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No... chief listed the real AP top 5..

It’s not a guess.

1. Florida 13-1 1,606
2. Utah 13-0 1,519
3. USC 12-1 1,481
4. Texas 12-1 1,478
5. Oklahoma 12-2 1,391

by cmkelly29 on Jan 9, 2009 7:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I just saw that.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We're #2 we're #2...

I’m obviously realistic enough to know that the Utes weren’t going to be voted #1. However the fact that they got 16 first place votes is great. I’m loving all the love Utah is getting right now.

Of course I think they have a great argument for #1, but this has been the best season in Utah football history, which is saying something after the ‘04 season. I never could have dreamed that they would have done it again this soon. I’m just going to enjoy it, as I have all year, and not worry or bitch about all the “should’ve been #1 talk”.

GO UTES!

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 9, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats

Utah is doing some good work for the MWC. I was listening to EXPN radio (I was working out, so that’s all I had) and they mentioned that the MWC should be a part of the BCS. BYU’s solid (gag), Utah can hopefully keep this up, CSU’s down, AFA is always somwhat solid. If Wyoming’s new coach can do something that’s not craptacular, I can see the MWC scraping into the BCS.

Nothing pithy here. Please move long.

by WyoRanger on Jan 10, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am of the school..

that believes Utah is the real national champion.

by cmkelly29 on Jan 9, 2009 8:18 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Utah

Out of all those teams they are one with the true gripe. They finished the year undefeated and rolled over bama in their bowl game.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i hope the utah attny gen sues BCS lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they wouldn't have a case

Utah has the ability to win a national title — they just didn’t met the requirements to do so. They’re not being barred from the ability to win though.

Also, FWIW, I think Utah is a very very good team capable of beating anyone in the country. I just don’t think they have a legal case (but I’m not a member of the LSB Lawyer’s Association either).

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

since when has “not having a case” ever kept anyone from attempting to do so lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The counter argument will be

that it’s not possible for them or any school outside the Big 6 to meet the requirements. When you’ve had 5 undefeated teams in 10 years who had zero shot at winning a national title, it’s tough to say that every team has the ability to win a national title.

Muschamp seems like the kind of guy who used to beat up guys like Bob Stoops in high school.

by TheJeezus on Jan 9, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You missed the point

The BCS rules do not in any way say a MWC team cannot win the title. If a MWC team can build its reputation up and it’s perceived strength of schedule well enough to get into the top 2, then it is no different from OU or Florida getting there.

Just because they haven’t been able to make it to #1 or #2 is not the BCS’ fault.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a vote...

1. Utah
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. USC
5. Oklahoma

by cmkelly29 on Jan 9, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mine

1. Utah
2. Florida (tie)
2. UT (tie)
4. USC
5. OU

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i can agree with this order

utah (tie)
florida (tie)
texas
usc
ou

i wish it was a split NC

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Florida

Texas
USC
Utah
OU

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's my opinion that Texas and USC would beat Utah on a neutral field.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, that's your opinion, cool with me.

It’s just that I’m sure that in most people’s opinion, Alabama would have beaten Utah on a neutral field also.

They didn’t lose one game, and they beat Alabama (who’s only loss at the time was against the eventual “National Champion” in thier conference title game) in a BCS bowl game.. I just don’t see any reason for them to not to be National Champs.

by cmkelly29 on Jan 9, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does everyone agree that Sam Bradford is overrated?

A system QB.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 8:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

No

I think he will be a very good pro. Scouts Inc. graded him at a 98 a few months ago.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Harrell will end up better in the NFL.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so why will one system QB be better than the other?

Even though i disagree that Bradford is a system QB….

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My reasons are just of opinion

Something about Harrell when I watch him.. completes of a lot of the 10-20 yard throws, where almost everything Bradford throws is 10 yards and in.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

Good stuff man.

Bradford is not a system QB.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jan 9, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly what he is.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

how so?

if you are making this claim at least elaborate on how he is a system qb.
i’m far from an our fan or a bradford fan, but the guy’s a good qb.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he is a good college qb

I told you, everything is pre- read, he knows where he’s going before the snap 80-90% of his throws, and most of those throws are 0-10 yards. He stares down his receivers, just look at the goal line interception he threw.. everyone in the building knew he was throwing left. I have never come away impressed from the few times I’ve watched him, at least not too the point where of a Heisman winner or top 5 pick.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so your calling bradford a system qb

and saying harrell will be better?

by cashman on Jan 10, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Seems backwards, I know.. but why is Tech considered a system and not OU? But, yeah, I think Harrell can play football, no matter the system.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 10, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely not

did you see the accuracy his arm has? He was the better qb on the field last night.
i can only imagine how much better he would look with tebow’s wr’s.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 8:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw him stare down receivers

Throw alot of short, pre-read passes.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

then you missed the accurate bombs

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He has college accuracy

Ninety percent of his throws are short to wide open receivers. He’s a good college QB, but man I hope the Lions don’t make another draft mistake.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

accuracy is accuracy

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 9, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw one, down the sideline

Good throw, better catch.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

system QB?

no that is harrell, colt brennan, etc

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Harrell can play in any system.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But Bradford can't?

I don’t understand.

"Please. What the hell do you know about starting a sports-related website and then deciding to leave it to work on other things and then? How dare you, sir." -- Michael Schur, aka FireJoeMorgan's Ken Tremendous, to Will Leitch

by ghtd36 on Jan 9, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Harrell is just a QB who happens to play at a school that has had system QB's.

Harrell reads defenses and makes NFL type throws, he has great pocket presence and moves in the pocket very well. Bradford either sits back comfortably or sprints out with the slightest bit of pressure, and other reasons I have mentioned above.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion:

Harrell has great accuracy in the 10-20 yd range, as you mentioned. That’s a fantastic NFL trait. I’m not convinced that he always makes the best reads, he forces the ball at times, and he doesn’t have a cannon for an arm.

Take all that together, and I think the best-case scenario for him is a Chris Simms-type career (minus the injuries): a solid backup option who won’t embarrass you if he has to make a spot start here and there. The more realistic option, though, is a solid 3rd-stringer.

I also think you’re underselling Bradford, though I don’t think he’d be a wise choice at #1 either. He has very good accuracy, makes smart decisions more often than not, and has a legit arm.

I might not take him at 1, but if he slid down past 10 he’d be a steal.

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This may be laughable

But I think Harrell is somewhere in between Pennington and Brady.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes.

You won’t find a bigger Tech homer than me, but that’s crazy talk, man.

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a Tech homer at all

In fact, I really kind of hated Tech until I watched Harrell play.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right

I wasn’t saying that you were a homer, just that, even as a homer who has limitless hyperbole in his pocket for Tech guys, I can’t even come close to agreeing with you.

But hey, I hope I’m wrong.

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't expect to be agreed with.

Especially concerning Bradford.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We shall see.

But how do you feel on the Bradford vs. Stafford debate?

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Stafford

But for a team like Seattle, where he can sit for a year or two. I don’t like either for Detroit. Detroit should trade back to about 10-12, and take Moreno, then grab Sanchez with our pick, or scoop Harrell later on.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bradford

I came away from the Vanderbilt vs Tennessee game a couple years ago thinking.. wow, Jay Cutler is something special. I came away from the Virginia Tech vs Boston College game last year, extremely impressed with Matt Ryan, I’ve never come away from an OU game impressed by Bradford.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So who's

The best pro in this class?

Sanchez? Or do you think it’s Harrell?

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sanchez
tebow
harrell
stafford
darkhorse

i think it is stafford but who are the darkhorses that could suprise/jump up the charts a la cutler

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis

Could be this year’s Joe Flacco.

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez may be the best bet.

But my list,

Harrell
Sanchez
Stafford
McCoy (if he’s in)
Bradford

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Jan 9, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The audible.

Am I the only one who can’t stand watching Bradford look to the sidelines on almost every play. Seems to me that he cannot read a defense and have the ability to change the play or think for himself. Harrell at least called many of his own plays and made the changes at the line. And yeah I realize he didn’t always make the right call, but he put up the numbers.

by rraider on Jan 9, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm?

You do realize that he does that because they run a no-huddle offense, right?

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No they don't.

What are you talking about?

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever watched a Tech game?

Harrell calls the plays from the line.

by rraider on Jan 9, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've watched

Every single Tech game. That’s not what happens. He may audible, but they do not play a no-huddle offense. They just don’t.

by brettgardner on Jan 9, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

eh

cant blame that all on bradford, that does depend on the system

if you have two catchers and one calls his own pitches and the other one’s coach calls all the pitches, you cant say that without a doubt one players is a better game coach/calls better pitches than the other one

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Jan 9, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The coaches purposely do that

it’s not because Bradford can’t read defenses. The coaches in the booth can see it much quicker than he can, radio down to the sidelines, signal in to bradford and you go.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 9, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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