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Runs, OBP, SLG, and Baserunners that Score: 2000-2009





The two main themes that have been voiced for improving the Rangers offense from this years disappointment have been voiced by Ryan and Wash:

Said Ryan: "We were all disappointed in the number of strikeouts and the lack of walks. We felt like for us to move forward, that was an area we had to stress with the hitters, like maybe have a different approach on two strikes. [Rudy] was in agreement with that.
Manager Ron Washington mentioned situational hitting as a big concern. The Rangers were 20th in the majors in runs scored and RBIs with runners in scoring position.
Does the past performance of the offense align with the perceived areas of needed improvement identified above? Basically, I'm looking at the road ahead that management has voiced as their desired path rather than trying to diagnose Rudy's influence in the past. A simple way to look into this is to look at runs scored versus the components of OPS which are OBP and SLG. I've used team OBP, SLG, and runs for the past decade (2000-2009) for the all ML teams as a start. Runs versus OBP

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The plot above shows Runs on the vertical axis and OBP on the horizontal. The median is 0.337, and for some reason unknown to me the vertical grey line for the median did not transfer to the PNG. The correlation between OBP and Runs is 0.854. The Rangers have been on either side of the median OBP, but they score more runs for a given OBP, especially OBPs below the median, than is typical of other ML teams. In other words, they have fewer baserunners but have made the most of what they had. Runs

via sites.google.com

The plot above shows runs on the vertical axis and SLG on the horizontal. The median is indicated by the vertical grey line, and its value is 0.423. The correlation between Runs and SLG is 0.897. The Rangers are sluggers, of course, but the appear to produce fewer runs for a given SLG than similar sluggers. Clearly this is due to their lower OBP, but how completely the OBP deficiency is offset by hyper SLG can only be seen in a joint plot, which is shown below. Runs

via sites.google.com

The plot above shows SLG on the vertical axis and OBP on the horizontal with color coding of symbols by number of runs. The Rangers are plotted as a big circle, and all other teams are small squares. Teams that produced more than 900 runs have blue symbols, 850-900 have red symbols, 800-850 have black symbols, and 600-800 have light blue-grey symbols. Two odd things stand out about the Rangers:

(1) Almost no other team has been able to score 800-900 runs when having an OBP in the 0.33 to 0.34 range. The Rangers get more with less than just about everybody. However, if the Rangers can increase their OBP to the level of other high SLG teams, the Rangers would very likely be right around or above 900 Runs much more often.

(2) OBP and SLG go hand in hand to some extent, except for the Rangers. The linear relationship is evident here, and the correlation is 0.728. The Rangers are nearly the only team that has put up a season (and the Rangers have multiple such seasons) in which low OBP guys exhibit a great deal of power.


It's not quite this straightforward to figure out how efficient the Rangers are at clearing the bases. I've estimated the number of baserunners as hits minus HR, plus BB, plus IBB, plus HBP, minus GDP, minus CS. GDP and CS removes a player from the bases. GDP might remove two, but in that case the hitter becomes a runner. I have not included runners reaching by fielding error, fielder's choice, dropped third strike, fielder's obstruction, or catcher's interference. Fielder's choice is a zero sum game, so really the only overlooked category that could cause problems is fielding errors.

The efficiency of scoring baerunners is posed as the question: what fraction of baserunners score? That number of scoring baserunners is the number of runs minus HR, since the hitter of a HR was not on base when the HR was hit. Number of runs minus HR, divided by baserunners is the fraction of baserunners that score, given the caveat of not including runners via fielding errors. Runs

via sites.google.com

The plot above shows Runs on the vertical axis and fraction of baserunners that score on the horizontal. The median value is 0.333, and the correlation of Runs with fraction of baserunners that score is 0.788. It is clear the Rangers are a team that has been above average at getting their baserunners home. Baseball-reference has something similar (BR and BRS statistics*), and the Rangers in 2009 were about league average.

Bringing this back to Ryan's diagnosis (lack walks; need better two-strike approach) and Wash's diagnosis (lack situational hitting), I think both are offbase to some extent. The lack of walks is making the offense less productive than similar level SLG offenses. However, everyone knows it is extremely hard to get a hit or on base when a hitter has two strikes. The flip side is that it is much easier to hit with a 3-0 or 2-0 count. According to BR for 2009, the Rangers had the fewest 3-0 and 2-0 counts in the AL. Ryan is half on track and half going down the wrong track.
If by "situational hitting" Wash means getting a hitter's count, I would agree with his idea. However, the idea that the Rangers aren't scoring more because they don't move runners along is completely off base. The Rangers are average or better by mare than one measure at getting runners home, even if Wash's eyes tell him they aren't very good at producing so-called productive outs. And, if they actually aren't, their power more than makes up for it.

What the Rangers primarily need is more baserunners. Screw small ball. Power has been working. They just need more baserunners.



* BR and BRS are similar to what I did above except they add together the baserunners for each AB, if I understand correctly. This means if three runners were on base for consecutive ABs and one scored in the second AB, BR would be 6 (two AB times three runners during each AB) and BRS would be 1. BRS/BR is 1/6. The way I computed it would simply be three baserunners and one score: 1/3.

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There has been a number of quotes lately from JD, Wash, Nolan, MY that essentially say the Rangers need more productive outs, less Ks and higher OBP. That would definitlely increase the runs scored. What would it do for the run distribution?

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by RangerMad on Oct 15, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what you mean by run distribution. Do you mean in the context of the plots above?

I think “productive outs” is just not a very key thing here. The Rangers are already productive with runners on base, just not in the way the manager is accustomed to seeing it. For example, siting a ranking of 20th of RBI with men in scoring position is horrible, since the number of men in scoring position controls that statistic as much as driving them in. The Rangers just suck at getting baserunners.

Basically, the Rangers need to learn how to get to 1-1, 2-1, 2-0, and 3-0. They don’t really need to learn how to hit behind the runner.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 15, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

run distribution

One knock on the Rangers is that they score a lot of runs one night (8 for example) and then get shutdown (2) the next night. They win one game 10-8 and lose the next 2-3. If they had scored 5 runs each game they would have won both.

So in the context of what Nolan, JD, Wash et al. have been saying, increasing OBP would help their run distribution.

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by RangerMad on Oct 15, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah.

OBP is the main thing for the Rangers, assuming the new hitting instructor doesn’t magically suck all the power out of the hitters. Small ball and productive outs are a red herring, though. This year the Rangers were about the middle of the pack in the AL at converting productive outs. They were second from the bottom in productive out chances, though, meaning they didn’t have folks in position to attempt a productive out.

I would just as soon avoid productive outs, get more folks on base, and continue to bash.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 15, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Typically

small ball hasn’t been an option for the Rangers because their run prevention sucked so bad. If they can keep up this year’s run prevention, it may actually be an option.

Probably not my preferred option, but you have to go with what you got, and when you add players like Borbon, its an option to be considered.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 15, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually that should probably be

Borbon and Andrus. Their skillsets lend to smallball more than big runs. Also, the Farm’s strengths tend to be more in run prevention rather than run scoring with the pitching strength, and the relative weakness in position players.

When you are allowing 900+ Runs, smallball is insanity. When you are allowing 800-, its feasible.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 15, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True. I had been thinking more along the lines of sustaining past performance

rather than the possibility that small ball would need to be a necessity by virtue of the fact that players with great skill on defense often are not also great hitters. Usually, you get one or the other.

If that’s really the path forward management intends, we may have seen the end of the Rangers scoring 850+ runs.

It becomes even more critical that they learn to get on base much more frequently if they are going to rely on small ball.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 15, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its just tough to see

who are going to be the big players in Big Ball right now.

Hammy – Maybe our biggest threat to be a 900 OPS player, but durability concerns are an issue.
Kinsler-Hopefully he restructures his approach back to previous years and quits playing Blalock ball. Might be a 900 OPS threat.
MY – Only in years he hits 320+ is he ever a major offensive threat.
CD – Will probably never have the contact to be a 900 OPS hitter.
Cruz – Had a good but not great year last year, but with his age, doesn’t project to break 900 OPS consistently.
C – Doesn’t look like any of our Catchers are significant offensive threats, unless Ramirez gets a slot.
Borbon and Andrus – Not particularly likely to break 800 OPS, let alone 900.
Murphy- 4th OF or platoon 3rd OF at best.

Tough to see how this club goes back to a big ball threat with its recent acquisitions unless Smoak and Ramirez really break out, or if we acquire a big FA. With the current budget situation, I don’t see us getting a huge FA.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 5:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they could still be big ball for the following reason.

Even with Borbon/Andrus/C not hitting for all that much power, the Rangers slugging percentage was still pretty high.

What they lack in OPS is not slugging but OBP. That fact is brought up a lot on this board, so it’s no surprise that the numbers point to that. In the past, the Rangers have had hitters who could hit their way to high OBP. Cruz and CD probably will not. Hamilton, Kinsler might. Add in a smart platoon DH, and I could see the Rangers hitting themselves to a high OBP, though it would be a lot easier if they learned to add BB to their hitting game.

It depends on JD… If he really believes from his pro scouts’ and manager’s evaluation that the best run prevention outfield is Borbon in LF, Byrd in CF, and Hamilton in RF, well it will be hard to play big ball because the OF SLG will be really low, and they would need an insanely high OBP to have a 850 OPS from Borbon and Byrd. If they go with Hamilton in LF, Borbon in LF, and Cruz in RF, they have a decent chance of posting an above average OPS. That would leave DH as the primary question mark of whether the Rangers could really still play big ball.

Looking ahead to the next hitting instructor, I hope they ask him how their players can increase walks and maintain power, because the answer to both is not the swing mechanics but in getting the batting count to 2-0, 2-1, 3-1, 3-0. Cutting back on power in 2-strike situations is still not the answer to improving the offense’s production; neither is hitting behind the runner. It’s mostly about avoiding two-strike counts, and if the hitting instructor says otherwise, like if he says the Rangers can significantly improve their run production by hitting behind runners, I am going to be very disappointed.

The need the flip-side of Maddux. Maddux hates walks; the hitting coach needs to love them.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 16, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm not sure

I would expect a new hitting coach would dramatically improve obp of the team. I hope it does, but I’m not sure how much impact hitting coaches have.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said in a different thread yesterday

simple regression for some guys and acquiring a new bat is going to make the new coach look good, but I don’t really expect him to have a big impact.

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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

in terms of OBP-AVG, there are very few hitters who make significant strides over their career. It happens, but its not real common.

If anything, what I would expect is a lot of hitters looking better because their batting average improves, which lifts OBP and SLG. Hopefully this team doesn’t have nearly as many PAs by sub 300 OBP hitters as last year. I hope the leash on Salty and CD is a little tighter, and I hope we can acquire reasonable alternatives should they tank.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know. Sigh. In another thread, I posted the hitting coach will probably be the least impacting move of the offseason.

Even the great Maddux who inspired the pitchers to walk fewer guys can’t really be pointed to as the reason that happened.

The one good thing about CD is that for a while in AA he did actively work on his BB%. It wasn’t high, but I recall it was about double what it had been a lower levels. Maybe he can revert to that with the right person reminding persistently reminding him. I keep dreaming CD will turn into Mickey Tettleton.

I don’t know what to think of Borbon. He of all people on the Rangers roster needs to walk alot. He might be the one guy that I key in on as to the effectiveness of the new hitting coach.

Kinsler, Hamilton, Cruz, Byrd, Murphy…. They’re all pretty well set. Over the next 3-5 years their BB% might go up a bit just from getting used to the pitchers and gaining experience, but they certainly aren’t going to turn into Giambi.

I actually am bummed that Rudy is leaving when I think about Elvis. He came up as more of a pull hitter, though I have to admit I did not watch him one time at Frisco, so I might be off base. To me, the quintessential Rudy hitters in my mind are Pudge and MY. Those are guys that learned to stay inside the ball and drive it to the RF gap. They learned it under Rudy. I think Elvis would be a great hitter if he learned that from Rudy.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 16, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I typed that too fast and had a lot of redundant, repeated things in that post.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a great post

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a great post

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock

by lonestarJon on Oct 16, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they had scored 5 runs in each...

They still would have been 1-1

5-8
5-3

/nitpick

But I understand what you meant.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 16, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work on the graphs but

there is one thing missing. The graphs don’t show what could have happened with a patience approach at the plate for those teams. Everyone knows that we’ve had some teams that could really mash. And it’s not hard to come by runs when your park has short distances down the foul lines. Also, the former Ameriquest Field (I can’t believe I wrote that) doesn’t have much foul territory. Remember too, that we never play small ball because our pitchers historically couldn’t protect any small leads early in the game. All that is a sort of synergy which produces a lot runs scored. However, there is one big caveat. What would have happened if we could combine all of the above with a team that had patient plate discipline? I suspect it isn’t beyond speculation that we could have come close to an all-time record for runs scored if we simply added that ability. I know, it is asking a lot to have an entire team with good plate discipline, but I can dream, can’t I?

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by rodcarew on Oct 17, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and what would have happened

if all the players took magic pixie dust for breakfast?

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Ranger teams of the lat 1990s used patience and power (see plot below) and they fall right in line

with the high run producing teams in the 2000s.

Let’s say Rudy was still here and the ability of getting more runs per OBP translated to high OBP (though this wasn’t the case for the Rangers in 2008 or 1996, 1998, 1999), using the plot above, the Rangers would then probably score between 975 and 1025 runs.

However, the Rangers don’t have guys who value a walk. So, it’s more likely they’ll have high OBP years when they have high AVG years (like 2008 when their high AVG translated into high OBP but the high AVG was related to their high BABIP).

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 17, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plot of Runs versus SLG and OBP that includes the 1996-1999 Rangers teams

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 17, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops. posted that too quickly.

Rangers 1996-1999 are large circles with black outline. The league median OBP/SLG for 2000-2009 is the large square with black outline.

The Rangers haven’t always been high SLG and low OBP, which is a really rare feat in the majors. They were in 1996, 1998, and 1999 very much like the successful teams of the 2000s.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plot of Runs versus Fraction of Baserunners that Score with 1996-1999 Rangers.

Rangers 1996-1999 are large red circles. The Rangers have never had trouble getting baserunners home during Rudy’s tenure, despite not playing small ball.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Oct 17, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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