Friday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT
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Front office personnel of the Rangers are going to be meeting next week with the three leading prospective buyers of the team, but not Nolan Ryan or Tom Hicks:
Instead, the three groups apparently will receive a presentation on Rangers operations from general manager Jon Daniels, team attorneys, accountants and other front-office employees.
Apparently, they are shooting for late November for identifying the winning bidder.
Evan Grant writes that the reorganization that has taken place this past week within the front office means a much bigger role, with much more power, for A.J. Preller. Preller will essentially be overseeing all scouting, which means amateur, international, and pro scouting would all fall under his purview.
Richard Durrett takes a look at Kevin Millwood, and what the Rangers are looking for out of him in 2010.
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Glad Preller is getting a promo
but the higher profile probably means more attention from other teams and appearances on their potential GM lists in a year or so.
Let’s hope the Rangers sale proceeds with much more dispatch than the sale of the Cubs did.
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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm torn.
On one hand, promoting Preller keeps him around for another year or two or more. On the other hand, if he does eventually leave, we’re creating a bigger hole to fill.
by cstorm15 on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on yet another hand
his replacement has a chance to be groomed in the role that Preller just vacated.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers parent company is not in bankruptcy, yet
So I expect their sale to proceed much quicker than the sale of the Cubs.
by Mark from OC on Oct 16, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will go much much faster
the cubs sale included a buy out of a major company, the sale of the park and part of a tv network… As I understand it, the winning bid will incompass a percentage of interest in the team, a percentage of the lease of RBIA, and a portion of Hicks land around the park, the “glory park” stuff… They also will be asked to invest in a certain number of things, such as a media network.
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by PM Productions on Oct 16, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Vin Scully's brief manager stint
This is a funny story, hat tip BBTF.
http://www.sonsofstevegarvey.com/2009/10/vin-scully-on-his-managerial-career.html
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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks. One of the comments had a link to another Vin Scully story in Sports Illustrated
This 4 page article was written in May 1964, after the Dodgers had only been in LA for seven years.
I never realized that when he calls a game, he isn’t a Dodger homer. He did it this way in Brooklyn, so he didn’t turn off the New York Giants and Yankee fans listening on the radio.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Oct 16, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would like to hear Z's
opinion on the reorganization in the front office.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, please.
Cause I’ve never heard a discouraging thing about Hopkins. If it ain’t broke, y’know…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got promoted.
Similarly to how Dana Brown (Nationals) and Roy Clark (Braves) moved teams to the Blue Jays and Nats respectively for comparable roles. Essentially Hopkins becomes JD’s right-hand man for scouting, and he’ll presumably get special assignments to scout specific players on the Rangers’ short-list. That’s what guys in similar positions do on other teams, and those assignments typically include scouting a short-list of players at the trading deadline and other such situations.
Since Kip Fagg is the one getting promoted, there probably won’t be any major changes in the amateur scouting arena, as he was a national crosschecker before, and national crosscheckers have more input in the draft than any other scout, so I assume that Hopkins and Fagg worked hand-in-hand. There shouldn’t be any change that isn’t mandated from above on drafting philosophy.
by Andy Seiler on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins
He was supposedly pretty instrumental in the 2004 and 2005 drafts, and I think both of them could be characterized as “disappointing.”
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2005 draft
For me it’ll always be associated to JMJ, whom I remember as a Showalter pick.
Including him though, there are 3 MLers right now. I’d say Kirkman has a chance at a bullpen role. Matt Nevarez proved useful, and has a shot too.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 16, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Showalter
Hart.
Showalter really wanted Chris Nelson in the ’04 draft, and when he went off the board, Hopkins took Diamond.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
all three of those guys are busts
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My recollection is that z is a big Preller fan
Given the nexus between Preller’s work in Latin America and z’s love of hard-throwing or toolsy Latin teens, that makes sense.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LA position players
The Rangers are not hitting on them, fwiw, not during the mid-oughts spending push.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 16, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so far, anyway
Telis is pretty exciting to me.
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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF you see a LA player within 5 years of signing you likely have a special player
on your hands. I mean incredibly young and toolsy is the usual description of these kids.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, what did you think of Against The Day?
Saw that in yesterday’s playoff thread…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Having ruminated about it for a while...
…probably my favorite Pynchon book, I think.
The concept — which I didn’t get until I was a little ways in — that it was as if it was written in the early 1920s by someone who was extremely sophisticated and well-versed on scientific concepts and and the like, was something that I found fascinating.
I also find the radical movements of that era — turn of the century Anarchism plays a significant role in the book — fascinating.
It was a lot of work, but unlike, say, Gravity’s Rainbow, which I made it through and felt like I could appreciate it for what it was, but not necessarily as a novel or a book, I found Against the Day to be really rewarding and enjoyable.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My god you're enlightening
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Oct 16, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess if there's one person I want making a presentation to the potential buyers
Its Jon Daniels
by oc on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does this sound familiar
From Lansford, the recently fired hitting coach of the Giants
“I sleep real well knowing I took my best shot with that team,” he said. "It’s no secret it was a team of free swingers, which is a very frustrating thing. That’s hard to change. As I told Boch yesterday, you can get by with one or two guys like that in the lineup, but you can’t have a lineup full of guys like that. It didn’t work.
“I guess I have to take the fall for that. I did the best I possibly could with what I had. Everybody knew going into this season that we were going to be an offensively challenged ballclub. The fact that even with the offensive challenges we stayed in the wild card until the last week or 10 days was an incredible achievement, I thought.”
What makes our situation a little more disappointing is the fact that we were supposed to be a good offensive club.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 16, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I don’t think there is much you are gonna do when Blalock and Kinsler decide to swing out of their ass at a lot of pitches.
On the other hand, I’m also not sure its worth it to have the highest paid hitting coach in the league if he really can’t do much about it.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock's approach to a new coach in Texas is irrelevant.
Kinsler, however, I think is going to continue to frustrate with his “everything is fine, you assholes,” type mentality.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's hope not
although he does seem stubborn and unwilling to change. First thing the coach needs to try to do is make these guys watch video of themselves to be able to break down their swing and show them tangible evidence of where it needs work.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 16, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian Kinsler is literally the last player on the Rangers I am worried
about going into 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not worried about Kinsler yet...
…but his stubbornness and his unwillingness to even acknowledge a problem is irritating. Kind of reminds me of Jerry Jones. Everyone knows that Jerry is a bad GM except Jerry. All Jerry hears is the sound of three Lombardi trophies in his ear and says he is a great GM. Kinsler hears 30-30 and says “there’s no problem, jerks.”
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does he have to acknowledge it,
Why does Kinsler supposedly owe you an explanation? Things didn’t go well, if he can’t see that then he’s retarded. No need to emasculate himself, sorry everyone I suck.
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't suck at all.
I’m also not suggesting he has to say anything to the public or media. But his comments indicate a clear unwillingness to recognize a problem which is preventing him from reaching his potential. That is troubling.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troubling
I would agree, but in 08 Kinsler’s defense was horrible and we had the same won’t complaints, won’t admit the problem, seems dismissive etc. However Kinsler came back in 09 and defense wasn’t a problem. If he still can’t lay off the high pitches next year, then I’ll be worried.
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what is Kinsler's "potential" over and beyond a 30-30 season (with 30 doubles)
and outstanding middle infield defense?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On offense, see 2008.
On defense, see 2009. Why is this hard?
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not, I just don't think Kinsler giving some Tim Tebow speech is gonna help his game.
He knows the problem
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He certainly has the potential
for a better on base pct. I am completely unconcerned with counting stats like 30-30 stuff.
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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even so...
…30 HRs and 30 SBs is pretty good on a season. I would like his OBP to go up, his LD% to go up and he could return to the unreal form we know he can be. His fall in AVG doesn’t really bug me – just don’t hit him leadoff.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
the fall in avg and the drop in LD% are intrinsically tied, or at least it seems that way.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I agree.
Unless he were to have very bad luck with line drives, which is possible.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
potential
You say “30-30” as if it were the holy grail. wouldn’t it be better to put in there .300 average with the 30-30 and the 30 doubles?
in 2008, he hit .319/.375/.517 with 40 doubles in 20 fewer games than this year.
In 2007, he drew 64 walks in 566 PA’s.
so, his potential is a guy who hits .320, with a walk rate of over 11%, with 40+ doubles power and 30+ homer power and 30+ stolen bases speed at a great percentage. Call it .320/.400/.600 with a 35-35, potentially 40-40 year.
Oh, and great defense at second base.
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sounds perfect.
I want that Ian Kinsler!
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Davis is one who can be helped
Because I think his problems are mostly mental. If he just gets out of his own way he can probably be that Henry Rodriguez comp you brought up at one point.
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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the new ownership
Just imagine with me for a second that a new ownership group is in place by the end of the year and the new owner is flush with cash and tells JD to go get him a top shelf FA to add to the team….unlikely, but if it happened, who would you want?
I guess Matt Holiday would be the best power/patience combo out there, he plays pretty good defensive OF as well.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to have Holliday but
if that happens don’t you have to trade Cruz?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Borbon
Either should have good value, possibly add some pitching prospect(s) and you might could get a rotation upgrade.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Borbon unless the dumbass
manager insists he is a DH.
Cruz will never have more value (do you see him morphing into a 40+Hr/120 RBI player who finally learns how to hit LH pitching while playing Roberto Clemente-type defense at the age of 30?) and is older than Hank F. so if the right package is out there, you trade him and don’t look back.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
morphing into?
Cruz:
Year, Age, PA, Homers:
2003, 22, 515, 20
2004, 23, 593, 26
2005, 24, 539, 27
2006, 25, 561, 26
2007, 26, 519, 24
2008, 27, 587, 44
2009, 28, 528, 33
he hit 44 in 2008 and could have hit 40 again with some more health. I wouldn’t necessarily predict 40 homers next year, but I wouldn’t bet against it either.
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade/bench/platoon Murphy
And yes, Cruz can hit lefties.
by cstorm15 on Oct 16, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the list of problems I'd love to have
Having Holliday and Cruz both ranks right up there.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Oct 16, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
You can put Borbon in CF and let Holliday, Cruz and Hamilton rotate among the COF slots and DH.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a new owner said that there is money to spend
what would you want them to spend it on?
Personally, I’d like them to go ahead and try and make this team a contender, and of the available FAs, I don’t see anybody else that would add as much to the team as Holliday. Do you?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to think about it
And really, it depends on the size and length of the deal.
But Holliday is supposedly wanting a Sorianoesque deal, which I think would be a huge mistake.
If an owner wants to come in and spend some money, then spend it on 1 year deals for Jim Thome and Mike Cameron.
You start the season with this as your regular lineup:
2B — Kinsler
3B — Young
LF — Hamilton
CF — Cameron
DH — Thome
RF — Cruz
1B — Davis
C — Salty/Tea
SS — Andrus
Smoak and Borbon start the season in AAA, Murphy is your 4th outfielder.
I’d rather see the team do like the Dodgers have lately, and give huge short-term contracts…Andruw Jones didn’t work out at 2 years, $30 million, but at least it isn’t a half-decade worth of drag.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That looks good
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron is what, 37 years old and Thome is pushing 40...
Why don’t we go after free agents who are much closer to their prime?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys are on one year deals
Remember, the FA market sucks this year.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick of this team going to the cutout bin and hoping to breathe
life into a 40 year old CF like Lofton, The Sosa, Brad Fullmer, Phil Nevin, Andruw Jones, Richard Hidalgo.
This franchise has been treated like one of those piece of shit, small market, one chance in 10 years to win for too long.
Signing somebody like Holliday (predicting success for hitters is much easier than predicting success for pitchers) would send a nice message to fans that the old way of doing business is a thing of the past.
Signing Thome and/or Cameron would mean nothing has changed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Just like signing that Shortstop out of Seattle sent a message to the fans and everyone else how awesome we were! You remember him, Alex-something.
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JW is right.
And Holliday fits fucking perfectly in the middle of our lineup.
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JDT is having fits
Boy, you are right, Holliday looks like a real force behind the plate, except for that half year in Oakland. I guess I have lingering doubts.
and if you are going to committ to a guy for 6 years and who knows how many millions then you really want to not have any doubts at all.
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well
life is a series of imperfect options in a series of uncertain situations. But infinity money solves a lot of problems and fixes a lot of mistakes.
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"But infinity money solves a lot of problems and fixes a lot of mistakes."
And if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his ass a-hoppin.
Why do you keep bringing this pointless shit up?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Oct 17, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should *expect* to have an owner who will make our payroll among the highest in the league.
There’s nothing “pointless” about that.
by JDT217 on Oct 18, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thome and Cameron
If you think that those guys are equivalent to Sosa, Fullmer, Nevin, Andruw Jones, Hidalgo, etc., then you’re a freaking idiot.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron and Byrd
How much does each guy get?
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron
Either 1 year, $8-10 million, or 2 years, $14-16 million.
Byrd I’d say is looking at 3 years, $20 million.
And Cameron is better than Byrd.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't Cameron want a starting job?
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read This
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you give it to him
Hes still a borderline plus CF glove and a starting caliber bat.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like whom?
what free agents would you go after? Hank Blalock?
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because those guys want 7 year deals?
If there were a Pujols-type on the market, then that might make sense.
But signing a Matt Holliday to a 6-8 year deal would be foolishness.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this economy, it's hard for me to see
Holliday getting more than 6 years /$ 100 million.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boston will pay it, their fans are bored with Bay and they want sext dammit
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for 6 years, $100 million
I’d pass on Holliday.
I thought you were smarter than that. Holliday is going to be 30 in January. Signing a 30 year old to a 6 year deal is pretty much guaranteeing you are going to be stuck with a bad deal.
The Cubs would love to unload Soriano…you know, that guy you’ve been crying about how we should have re-signed. You could probably get him back just by taking on his contract…is that something you’d endorse the new owner doing?
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My complaint about the Soriano Situation
had to do with Little Boy Donuts trading him in a contract year (he hit 46 bombs for Washington) for your former fave, that Sack of Shit known as Brad Wilkerson.
I didn’t advocate that the Rangers should have signed Soriano because I wanted them to keep Tex & Young instead but nice try.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Holliday for 6 year / $ 100 million would be
a nice bargain.
Most of the players comparable to him played well into their mid 30’s.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be foolishness
Much like giving Carlos Lee 6 years, $100 million was.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Lee
is a fat fuck who doesn’t get on base enough or play good defense.
Holliday is much better than Carlos Lee was after 2006.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 2006, Carlos Lee
had an OBP at or around .335.
After 2009, Matt Holliday (a year younger and much more trim than Lee) has a career OBP of .387.
6 years/ $ 100 million, that’s a bargain.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 years $100 million is not a bargain
And Holliday has spent almost his entire career in the AAAA league while playing in Coors Field.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a .419 obp in St.Louis this year.
Yes, only two months but enough to show that his time in Oakland was an aberration.
Get this, although only 6 months younger than Nelson Cruz, he has a demonstrated ability to also get on base v LH pitching (.391 OBP) in The Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theo Epstein and Bill James
Those guys are smart enough to know you don’t give 6-8 year deals to non-elite players in their 30s.
You could learn a lot by watching them.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the time a
6 year deal is wrong but Holliday stays in shape, doesn’t have issues off the field, plays good defense and is still young enough to have a good chance to be worth $ 16 million per as a 35 year old.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox
who employ both Bill James & Theo Epstein offered Mark Teixeira an 8 year contract last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he was 28
He’s also better than Holliday.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex is 3 months younger than
Holliday, was given an 8 year contract and the Red Sox offered him $ 70 million more than I’d give Hollday.
Nice try.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comprehension Fail.
Tex was a FA a year ago.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
but he’s just going to say that Tex was offered an 8 year deal two years ago and he’s talking about offering Holliday a 6 year deal now.
God, Josey is so fucking predictable and tiresome.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Oct 16, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex was a free agent last year
little brother.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why didn't you know that the first time?
You’re welcome for pointing that out to you, Jay.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pull out your ban stick
you know you wanna.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading fail
Those guys are smart enough to know you don’t give 6-8 year deals to non-elite players in their 30s.
who employ both Bill James & Theo Epstein offered Mark Teixeira an 8 year contract last year
Tex was in his 20’s
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest problem here...
Is that Holliday is going to sign for 6/100. It’s going to be a bigger deal than that. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we supposed to rollover and
just say “yes” when Adam wants the team to spend $ 25 million for two years of Cameron and one year of Thome when a better and much younger option is available without discussion?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did Adam
advocate a two year deal for Cameron? He suggested 1 year at $8M.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA and Holliday
I know you’re familiar with PECOTA, because you referenced it daily during spring training when ridiculing those of us who thought this team would finish above .500.
Anyway, you know what PECOTA says Holliday will be worth from 2010-15?
$39,900,000.
You’d be giving Holliday a $60 million premium above what PECOTA thinks he’s worth.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't wanna ruffle the feathers
of Little Brother.
Whatever you say ajm.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 17, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really
see the Rangers spending that much money on anyone this winter? Whatever the money, 6 years is too long a contract for almost any player. Certainly one on the wrong side of 30.
His career OBP at home: .420
for away games: .353.
Good player, not a $100 million player, and not for 6 years.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's almost as genius
as your 3/30 for Blalock.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming from the idiot
that thought sending Ian Kinsler to AA ball this year would have been a good idea, who gives a shit what you think, Cahill?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So funny
I don’t think you can find a single post I made that said that Kinsler should be taken off the major league roster and sent down to AA.
Whereas, its easy to find the post where you wanted to lock up Blalock for 3/30.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about a contract year?
I thought you were saber-friendly enough to know that that is b.s.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey is not saber-friendly
he only likes to pretend he is, and then misuses most every stat he quotes. And he definitely has no understanding of the risk-reward ratios most trade, free agent and draft decisions involve.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea in general.
As long as you realize that there is risk associated with that, too. Pat Burrell could be added to Andruw Jones, along with Frank Thomas, etc etc.
I’m just not sure it works as well with hitters as it does with, say, relievers. I dunno, the counterargument is that Toronto got screwed over pretty well by giving out the big contract to Vernon Wells.
Still, I’d love to see a Holliday-Borbon-Cruz OF with Hamilton at DH/backup OF. I’m not sure the sale would happen in time or if this team is even 1 bat away from being a championship contender (which is where I’d like to be before spending that much money). It seems like next year would be the ideal time to splurge (with Smoak, Kiker, etc and maybe Perez up here). Not that I’m advocating throwing next year away, but a lot of regression/health has to happen for this offense to just be one bat away.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 16, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’d rather this team go into next year with Borbon as its regular CF rather than Cameron. They may be worse for a month or two with Borbon instead of Cameron, but by giving Borbon regular playing time, they’ll be better in the long ryn.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just say No
There’s an old saw in baseball: Never sign an ex-Rockie hitter.
You can say all you want about how well he hit outside of Denver, but you are still overpaying.
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can get Bryd
to do a 3 year deal for $15 mill, with an option for a 4th year at $8mill or so, would you do him over Cameron, considering his locker room entangebels… I know you dont like the idea of bringing him back, but Bryd said he was willing to give a home town discount of sorts, so that could work out well….
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by PM Productions on Oct 16, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT could be
that in Byrd’s mind right now 3/18 is a home town discount. Byrd is in a decent position right now, he is the #1 CF on the market that would be able to get a 3+ year deal.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are people so interested in Thome
the guy has been in decline for years now and can’t even play 1st base anymore. Yes he takes walks every now and then and goes through stretches where he’ll hit several homeruns, but he also goes through stretches where he strikes out 2 or 3 times a game and kills rallies if he’s batting in the middle of the lineup. To me that sounds a lot like Andruw Jones…
by MikeEl on Oct 16, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thome rakes. That's why people are interested in him.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 16, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thome was Andruw Jones last year with a few more H and BB
AJ normalized to Thomes’ # of PA
h 2b 3b hr bb so obp slg avg ops
Thome 86 15 0 23 69 116 372 493 249 864
Jones 75.6 22.7 0 21.4 56.7 90.7 323 459 214 782
So basically with Thome you’d get a guy with about 22 more H+BB and 25 more K’s than AJ, but fewer doubles and about the same # of HR’s. Not exactly raking…
by MikeEl on Oct 16, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break
Jones — .259 EQA
Thome — .285 EQA
If we could get a .249/.366/.481 line from our DHs next season — and that’s what Thome did in 2009 — I think folks would be satisfied.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about a
.267/.398/.529? Would that be ok at DH too?
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
But the question is at what cost.
1 year of that for Davis, Kiker and Poveda ain’t worth it.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could also spend in the trade market
I am sure there are a few contracts out there that team’s want to unload.
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Oct 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not an FA...
but you can go get Adam Dunn without giving up the farm. And we should do that.
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nats aren't going to just give him away
You’re going to have to give up a couple of pretty solid prospects to get him.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So would you rather sign Thome to a one-year deal...
…or give up a couple of second-tier prospects for Dunn (operating on the assumption that you will extend him)?
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Define "second-tier"
Tell me what sort of package you think it would take to get him. What prospects, specifically, would you part with?
And you don’t make the deal with the assumption of extending him. First of all, he’s limited to DH, which means you pretty much have to trade either Davis or Smoak this offseason if you extend him. And secondly, he’s probably not going to sign an extension unless you moneywhip him.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give up that package for Dunn
I think that’s way too much.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Why is it worth giving up that package to get a DH for one year?
You’d also be opening up a hole at first base that you’d need to fill for 2010.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roll with Smoak at 1B
And extend Dunn beyond next year.
by JDT217 on Oct 16, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matsui
he’s only a type B, but put up this line at age 35: .274 / .367 / .509 = .876
I think he’d be great as a DH and would look nice in the middle of the order. And he mashed lefties last year, with a .976 OPS against them. I think he has something left with the bat.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 16, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matsui against lefties
He’s traditionally not hit them as well as righties, and while he was great against them in 2009, he also saw a lot less of them than he has historically — the Yanks were more aggressive about sitting him against lefties.
I don’t think you can reasonably expect to bring Matsui in here and expect him to be part of the solution against LHPs.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Millwood...
When Wash said he wanted a veteran pitcher to help shepherd the young guys and show them how its done as a ML pitcher, I immediately thought that was Millwood’s role.
So, I’m hoping Wash means a veteran pitcher with high ability, like Sheets or Halladay, as opposed to another Millwood.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Oct 16, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lackey?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Oct 16, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the FO is getting itself reshaped to it's own liking
prior to new ownership.
by twinkilling on Oct 16, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
JD being the one to make the pitch to the interested ownership groups, plus Preller (who is definitely one of JD’s guys) getting promoted to oversee the entire scouting department?
Maybe it’s just me, but that sounds like a pretty strong endorsement of Daniels from Nolan.**
**Not intended as Josey-baiting; just an honest observation.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 16, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell else would do it besides JD?
Ryan can’t make the presentation because he’s involved in one of the ownership groups.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and jd can provide them with free donuts right?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 16, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying too hard, rentz.
Let the game come to you.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks couldn't do it?
He is the one trying to sell the team, after all.
Just thought it was interesting that JD’s riding point on this the same week that one of his guys in the front office gets promoted to a very prominent position, and a few of the old guard from the previous regimes (Didier, Hopkins, Robertson) get moved to other roles or let go.
Seems like more than simple coincidence.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 16, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD is riding point because there is nobody else to do it.
Although he doesn’t have the decision-making capabilities of his peers (Nolan holds his hand), he is the GM (entering his 5th season on the job) and probably more qualified than anybody else in the organization to make that kind of presentation.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins got promoted.
He didn’t get let go. He’s not in the same category. He’s now in the position tons of scouting directors want.
by Andy Seiler on Oct 16, 2009 1:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
I wasn’t clear on the position he’d been assigned to initially.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 16, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes that's the only reason JD is doing the presentation
Because if there was someone else to do it, there’s no way they’d let that incompetent kid handle it.
"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather let JD make this kind of presentation than
let him go to the Winter Meetings by himself.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD
GM’s don’t go to the Winter Meetings alone regardless of their competence level.
I went to the last ones here in Dallas and saw J.P. Ricciardi and Mark Shapiro- they both had a group of people with them.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 16, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phrased a different way for Literal Man -
I’d rather JD make this kind of presentation than let him go to the Winter Meetings and have the power to make a decision that I don’t approve.
See Gonzales, Adrian.
See Danks, John.
See Young, Chris.
See Soriano, Alfonso.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See Broken Record.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
You’ve insinuated before that JD needed an entourage with him at the Winter Meetings because he wasn’t competent.
And yes, I do tend to interpret things literally. I’d blame it on my Tourette’s, but I find it happens just as often because some dumbasses would rather be cute about things than say what they actually mean.
See Wales, Josey.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 16, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure
the first thing Daniels thinks about before making a deal is if Josey approves. I’m surprised he doesn’t have your cell number so he can check with you on all decisions.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm offended by the new LSB tagline...
after all, I’m not “local.”
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 16, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to worry
Some locals fail the geek test, and have spent more time in locker rooms than Galloway has spent searching his wallet to pay a bar bill. It’s all relative.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Oct 16, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just think it's funny...
that Galloway thinks as highly of us as we do of him.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 16, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT. Strasburg makes his AFL debut tonight.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the most interesting comment in this thread.
by Andy Seiler on Oct 16, 2009 2:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else concerned
One of the bits I saw in the article about the meetings is the rumor that Hicks wants $500 million for the club AND wants to retain control. If I’m a perspective buyer, that would scare the bejeezus out of me. After all, Hicks is the idiot who has antagonized the fan base, dicked around with the baseball operations, and finally failed to make the appropriate payments and got the team into trouble with their banks AND MLB inc. I wouldn’t put up a half a billion smackers unless I had control of the baseball operations and Hicks didn’t have his hands anywhere within 500 miles away from this team.
by iblum on Oct 16, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think a new owner is going to buy the team
and not get control.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What article says this?
If Hicks wants $500 million for the club AND wants to retain control, there is no sale. Period.
by Mark from OC on Oct 16, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's like buying a very expensive car from somebody who
won’t let you drive it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 16, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Megan Fox
to come over to sex me up, and clean the house too.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here I am sweetie!
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 16, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...
that’s nice, but I heard on Tosh.O that she has “toe-thumbs.”
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well bag the thumbs and do what ya need to do SLC
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 16, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Unless you’re fucking her thumbs, it really isn’t an issue.
That’s like bitching about the Mona Lisa because there’s a fleck of white paint on the lower left corner.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 16, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL true dat...get over it SLC!!!
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 16, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SLC = Seinfeld
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't stand Seinfeld...
and like I would really turn down Megan Fox because of her thumbs.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 16, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long
as she cleans the house, too
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL yes she does...dressed like that :)
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 16, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overrated
But still nice.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 16, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash/Byrd
If Marlon gets a decent, say 3 year deal that will be quite the bell cow for Wash to point to I imagine. Things like that buy a manager some credit when trying to motivate his players. Guys like Cruz and Borbon that might benefit from some tutelage. Remember Byrd wasn’t Wash’s boy till this year.
by WhiplashWhiteside on Oct 16, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious.
If you’re JD giving this presentation, are you trying to sell it for as much as possible? Wouldn’t you want the franchise to sell for as little as possible to reduce the debt burden and give you greater….wait for it…financial flexibility?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the sales price will ever come up in JD's presentation
I think his role would be something like a “state of baseball operations” address.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 16, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu apparently reject a 2yr/16M offer from the Angels
I wouldn’t mind giving Abreu a 2yr/18 – 20M offer early when he hits the FA market. I think players could be more likely to jump on a contract as they don’t want the negotiations and market to end up dictating their contracts later in the Offseason. But even if we don’t sign Abreu, I think there can be some deals made this year at a decent bargain price.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I want to give up the draft pick for Abreu
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Abreu is a DH
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily
Abreu has DH’ed less than 30 games in his career. He can still be a corner outfielder on a contender. He may be worth the draft pick; however, the ownership situation has to come to a resolution before the Rangers consider any big ticket free agents.
by Mark from OC on Oct 16, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always hesitant to get picks to one of our primary rivals
for a good but not great player.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giving picks to one of our primary rivals
Who cares?
If it is worth giving up a pick to sign a free agent, you sign him. You don’t worry about a division rival having your first round pick as a result.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is Abreu isn't someone that I'm sure I want to give a pick for
Hes a nice bat. Would help the team some but I don’t think hes a huge difference maker considering it would mean Cruz or Hamilton losing ABs or being traded I think. Abreu isn’t coming here to DH.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 16, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't want to give up the pick, then you don't sign him
Who the pick goes to is irrelevant.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would give up the pick for him
He would significantly improve the team. How would Hamilton or Cruz lose at bats? With Borbon, Cruz, Hamilton, and Abreu you cover the 3 OF and the DH.
by Mark from OC on Oct 16, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu and his OBP...
on the Rangers is a huge difference.
He’s easily worth giving up a draft pick for imo.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what
about picking up Xavier Nady or Rocco Baldelli as your DH and 4th outfielder? Borbon, Hamilton and Cruz are going to b your starting OF’s if Byrd doesn’t resign so I think it would make sense to sign a guy like Nady or Baldelli.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Oct 16, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nady is a Type B FA, btw.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except
they would be better then any DH we had last year.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Oct 16, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
The Rangers as a team had a .345 wOBA last year, good for 6th in the AL. Not great, but it’s higher than Nady’s career mark (.342) and much higher than his mark last year (.321). Baldelli fails both comparisons as well (career .333 and last year .326).
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by t ball on Oct 16, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true
Jones was about as good as both Baldelli and Nady last year, I believe.
And I don’t think Baldelli has played 150 games, total, since 2004.
Even if you were right, though, why would you advocate bringing in crappy players because the players we had playing that position last season were also crappy? Isn’t the idea to get good players?
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 16, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - World Series
So ideally this is how things play out:
Dodgers-Yankees in the WS; Dodgers sweep, with games 3 and 4 being lost because of critical errors committed by Jetes and Teixeira. At the final out, Joe Torre is seen lauuuuughing and lauuuuughing in multiple extreme closeups while a single tear rolls down Joba’s fat face.
by FuturePants on Oct 16, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
Padilla throws at Teixeira’s head, and it explodes, leaving grey matter all over Home Plate.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 16, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You mean green matter
He’s money for brains. I’d expect it to look like one of Popeye’s empty spinach cans.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Oct 16, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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