Wednesday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2009 9:06 AM CDT
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I'm still boggling at the awful umpiring last night. Jim Caple has a story which includes quotes from Tim McClelland on his two egregiously blown calls:
First, Scott messed up the pickoff attempt on Swisher. Swisher clearly was out diving back into second base -- shortstop Erick Aybar's tag was right on his hand several inches in front of the bag -- but Scott called him safe. No matter. McClelland made up for it moments later when he called Swisher out for leaving too soon on a fly out to center fielder Torii Hunter.
"I said in my heart I thought he left too soon, but the replay showed that he didn't," McClelland acknowledged.
* * *
Napoli clearly tagged Cano when he was off third base and then tagged Posada, who also was standing off the base.
McClelland, however, did not see what everyone else in the park and watching on TV saw.
"I thought Cano was on the base," McClelland said. "I was waiting for two players to be on the base, and then there was never the situation where both of them were on the base at the same time. When [Napoli] tagged Cano, I thought Cano was on the base, and when [Napoli] tagged Posada out, I thought Posada was out.
"[The replay] showed that Cano was off the bag when he was tagged. I did not see that for whatever reason. So obviously there were two missed calls. Obviously or not obviously, but there were two missed calls. And I'm just out there trying to do my job and do it the best I can."
Geez.
Evan Grant grades the Rangers' relievers, and other than being too generous to Eddie Guardado, I think he's pretty much spot on.
Jeff Wilson has some more details on the Derek Holland recruiting trip to Japan.
And potential Rangers owner Jim Crane was in town yesterday, meeting with the baseball and business folks and touring the ballpark. He apparently met with Jon Daniels and Nolan Ryan, despite earlier reports that Ryan wouldn't be involved in these meetings.
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They should've sent Wash to Japan.
He gives much better hugs.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 21, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Timmy!!!
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
so are these the best and the brightest MLB has to offer?
to qoute Adam…“Geez”
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he looks so unhappy..
Congratulations Tim McClelland you have been voted nimrod of the week, last weeks winner was balloon boys Dad.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
livin a lie!
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not even sure reading the McClelland quotes do it justice.
Watching him say it was brutal. What a clusterfuck.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For the prospect gurus here
Where would Kikuchi stand in our system? Top 5? Top 10?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe top 10
or maybe like 12.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After looking at it, he would be #9 for me
1. Neftali Feliz
2. Martin Perez
3. Justin Smoak
4. Julio Borbon
5. Michael Main
6. Robbie Ross
7. Tanner Scheppers
8. Wilmer Font
9. Kikuchi
10. Kiker
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Borbon is out now so move them up.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you still put Main
in the top 5? For the most part your top 10 is what I would have except drop main behind Font, Ross and Scheppers. I just feel like Main has to prove that he can pitch a full season.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well..
Scheppers and Ross still have to prove that they can pitch a full season too.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
but you give a recent draft pick the benefit of the doubt. Ross was really good this, and warrants to be placed over Main.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers has pitched a full season
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Main...
is a top 5 talent.
Even in the Rangers system right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 21, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the highway is strewn with high talent guys
that can’t stay healthy, and that is why I drop him down a few spots. It’s not like we’d be underrating his talent, but a player’s stock drops when they have dissappointing seasons, much like MaxRam etc. We look for these players to rebound, but Max has shown something in the past. The only thing we’ve ever really gotten from Main is his highly touted Instructs performances.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that list
and I think that’s a good spot for Kikuchi from what we know. I might put Scheppers higher if he stays healthy in the AFL, just ahead of Main with Kikuchi 8th and Borbon off the list.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
certainly not a guru
But the reports that I’ve seen seem to grade him similar to an early first round draft pick, so I think he’d probably be rated right around where we had Purke, top 5 or so.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was thinking as well.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Oct 21, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
concur
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Oct 21, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's time for replay.
Actually, long past time.
I can’t for the life of me figure out why we can’t electronically monitor the strike zone. I would even keep the strike zone the same for all hitters, regardless of their size. We don’t change the height of the rim for shorter b-ballers.
Ah yes, the human element. Well, why don’t we take MRI machines away from doctors and just let them diagnose solely with the eye-ball test. Sure they will fuck up, but that’s the human element….. Also, I think cops should get rid of radar guns and just use their best guestimate as to a driver’s speed. Why use equipment, thus removing the human element? Just imagine, different cops could have different zones. Some cops call speeds differently. Its up to each driver to know which cop is working where and adjust their speeds according to that cops zone. Wife to husband, "slow the fuck down, you know we are in Roscoe’s territory and he’s got a fast “gun”. Didnt you read the DMN article saying he calls speeds about 10 mph fatster than the actual speeds?"
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by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This.
It’s time that we stop the madness that is “tradition” and use the technology available. And it’s not like baseball games just speed along at this point.
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
by ghtd36 on Oct 21, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly it's not complicated...
Get an additional umpire on the field who looks at replays and overturns bad calls. It should take about 30 seconds additional in most cases which would save you time since half the time players and managers argue the call and wind up taking a lot more than that. There’s no way McClelland could of seen both the outfielder and the man on third at the same time in the position he was in, he’d of had to back up or have Marty Feldman eyes or something.
I’m not quite ready for a computer to call balls and strikes but it should be open for discussion.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 21, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
On all calls but balls and strikes have someone reviewing the replays. All he has to do is tell someone on the field to wait a sec if he wants to check something.
People keep thinking it will slow the game down but I think it’s just the opposite. Manager comes out to bitch about a call and the ump he’s talking to either says “nope” or “you’re right – we’ll change it.” Once the ump on the field says “no” the manager knows he’s already heard from the replay booth and there is no reason to keep bitching and he gets his ass back in the dugout instead of long screaming sessions.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
MLB should say, “OK, we’re installing replay for these specific calls, but in return, any manager who comes onto the field of play to argue is immediately ejected.” Then replay might actually speed the game up.
"I can hit 100 whenever I want." ---Neftali Feliz
by drizzle on Oct 21, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even think that's necessary
Managers will know there’s no point to protracted bitching.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Oct 21, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying that's a way MLB can resolve the cries that replay will lengthen games
And there’s already no point to protracted bitching yet managers do it anyway
"I can hit 100 whenever I want." ---Neftali Feliz
by drizzle on Oct 21, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You fail to acknowledge that
pitch f/x or whatever system would be used to call balls and strikes would be installed, calibrated and monitored by humans. Also, the technology itself would not be 100% accurate.
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by RangerMad on Oct 21, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right
we should stop all efforts at progress. We should remove stoplights at intersections as it was human engineers who designed the system and it is still not 100% accurate at stopping accidents.
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this has stupidity riddled throughout it
no offense
by BuckyB on Oct 21, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um
are you suggesting there are fallacies in my logic?
Of course there are. I argue in kind.
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by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the big problems last night was that none of the other umpires
wanted to tell the Emperor he wasn’t wearing any clothes and blew the call.
The book Outliers talks about Korean flight crews being so scared shatless of the pilot when they know mistakes are being made that they’d rather crash or come close to doing it instead of speaking up.
There were 5 other umpires that could have spoke up but they were afraid to tell the head umpire that he screwed the pooch.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outliers?
I’m going to put this in the category of “Josey attempting to associate himself in intellectual circles where he doesn’t belong.”
by cstorm15 on Oct 21, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gladwell
isn’t exactly an intellectual. His stuff is for popular audiences.
by JDT217 on Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly.
Reading books about smart, successful people doesn’t make you smart or successful.
I received a copy of Outliers last December, read the first sixty pages or so, and decided to regift the book at a white elephant party a few days later (keeping my original white elephant gift, a DVD collection of Steven Seagal movies).
by cstorm15 on Oct 21, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Blink better
but Outliers was pretty good.
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"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Oct 21, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a pretty big difference
between a game and MRI machines.
Yes, baseball needs to have a better replay system in place for blown calls like this, but you really don’t need to get rid of the human element completely in umpiring.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The umps are there to serve a purpose
and if there is a better way of having that purpose served it should be explored.
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by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is
Its by allowing teams to actually challenge an umpires ruling. You don’t need to get rid of umpires completely, just make things more open to disagreement rather than letting umpires throw everyone out who argues with them when they blow a call
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your statement
I just can’t stand umpires having their own strikezone. It is ridiculous. Maybe have an ump call balls and strikes and allow a team to challenge so many ball and strike calls per game or something.
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by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very surprised to see Evan praise CJ
although a home ERA of 0.67 and having 13.4 K/9 innings ratio since the ASB is hard to ignore
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Oct 21, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was shocked there was no mention
of CJ’s tweets
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 21, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was also a little shocked to see EG give overdue credit
to the blueglovelefty. CJ would earn a nomination (but not win) as my MVP for the Rangers this year.
Frank Frank was really good until his dipshit manager decided to pitch him three games in a row back in early May (?). Yes, Ron Washington brought his closer into a game with the score 7-2.
Baseball Prospectus screwed up a lot of things with the Rangers this year but they said Washington’s biggest weakness was his inability to properly use his bully. They got that one right.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for telling us what BP said about Washington
Although I can’t shake this feeling I have that I may have heard someone say it before
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I still have Tex on schedule for Cooperstown right
around 2028.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
I’m going to love seeing a HOF that allows a power hitting 1B with less than 500 HRs and no MVPs in.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
havent checked his stats
Does Tex have no shot at 500?
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by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex has 242 HRs and doesn't turn 30 until next April.
With good health and clean drug tests, he has a very nice shot at 500 HR.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's averaged about 35 HRs a season up until now
And as you’ve mentioned with Nelson Cruz multiple times, 30 is getting up there with age and his best years are probably behind him. He’ll have to keep hitting at least 35 bombs a season throughout this contract of his to make it to 500 without having to bounce around the league on 1 year deals trying to reach that mark. That’s also assuming that he plays nearly everyday and doesn’t ever miss significant time throughout the season.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex is tied to the Yanks for the next 7 years and the ballpark
coughed a lot of HR’s this year.
There are so many differences in ability b/w Tex & Cruz (Tex is the far superior player) that any comparison between the players is worthless.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Using one
year of stats when evaluating a ballpark is stupid.
AT&T was a hitters park the first year, and since then, not so much.
You’re basing your argument off assumptions, which like you, is stupid.
"Blister please, with those wings in your spine.
Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
Wrapped in boxes so tight, sounding only at night as you sleep." ~Jeff Magnum; Neutral Milk Hotel
by jdh90 on Oct 21, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great players and their peaks.
Theres an old saying that great players can peak at any time in their careers. Personally, I think its really the opposite. When we look back at a players career, we can then make the judgement about how great they are. Big Tex could have an Eddie Murray like career, or he could look more like Giambi or Thome. but he’s also pretty athletic. And then theres the option that he goes all McGwire on the league and hits 245 homers in 4 years. (after being traded to Colorado).
by iblum on Oct 21, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The favorite toy puts him at a 32% chance of getting 500
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 2013
I see Tex at 400 HRs and he’s home free after that.
He’s a great player in his prime who plays 155 games just about every year with half of his games in a small park. With the Yankees, he’s never going to have Richard Hidalgo, Phil Nevin or Brad Fullmer hitting behind him.
I place his chances at getting 500 HRs at 75%.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's 39.5 homers per year for 4 years
Given that he’s hit more than 39 homers once in his career, that seems like a stretch.
We shall see.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's hit 38 HR's or more in three times
in his career so it’s not a stretch to think he’ll be able to put up 158 HRs over 4 years in a line-up that will be power laden while he’s playing half of his games in a bandbox.
With good health and clean drug tests, Tex is a slam-dunk for 500 HRs and the HOF.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except in previous seasons when he hit that many HRs
He was 24, 25, and 29. You want him to average 39-40 HRs a year at 30-33 years old. I also like that new Yankee Stadium is a huge bandbox because it played as one in its first year while completely ignoring the Ballpark Tex played in for the vast majority of his career.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see him as a slam-dunk
PECOTA has him at 27, 26, 25, and 25 homers from 2010-13, although that was before his 39 homer season this year.
30-33 isn’t exactly a players prime years. I agree he has a decent shot at 500 — I just don’t think it is a slam dunk.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Arod batting next to him in the lineup
he should see more pitches to hit. I see his homer totals increasing over the next couple of years.
by MikeEl on Oct 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA had Tex down for 28 HRs before this season
so I’m not relying on them for anything when it comes to projecting Tex.
Also note PECOTA had a 35 year old JDamon projected for 12 HRs before this season. Damon hit 24 bombs this year (17 at the new Yankee Stadium).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
so much hypocrisy here.
30 for Cruz means he’s going to suck. 30 for Tex means the best is yet to come. PECOTA projects the Rangers for 70 wins (or w/e it was) and clearly PECOTA knows best. PECOTA projects Tex to not reach 500 HRs, well now we can’t trust PECOTA. /josey
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said Cruz was going to suck (in this thread).
Tex is the player with much more ability because he didn’t kick around AA & AAA when he was 23-28 years old.
When Tex was 28 years old, he signed a $180 million contract while Cruz was coming off a season where he pushed around AAA pitchers at OKC and getting a nice cup or two of coffee with the Rangers.
Coming into 2009, BP had Cruz projected for 25 HR/ 83 RBI which I also thought was a fair projection.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when you agree with BP
its a fair projection. When you disagree with BP, they are wrong?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I use BP as part of the blend of
information I use to form an educated opinion.
What they have to say is not gospel.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone Josey disagrees with is wrong.
How is this news?
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New yankee stadium
bandbox for left handed hitters.
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by rentz on Oct 21, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda early
its kinda early in his career to say he won’t reach 500 homers or win an MVP. He was fairly close this year and hes already got 242 homers before the age of 30. 500 isn’t much of a stretch for him. but anything can happen in baseball.
by iblum on Oct 21, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its pretty safe to say Tex will never win an MVP
With A-Rod on the same team as him, he’s going to either need to play better than he ever has up to this point or A-Rod is going to have to start going on a very quick and significant decline, and A-Rod playing at 3B is always going to get the slight edge over Tex if their offensive stats are close. That’s just on the Yankees. Guys like Mauer, Youkilis, and Cabrera are good best to be in the discussion each year and the Rangers have a couple of solid MVP candidates in the near future with Kinsler and potentially Hamilton. I don’t see it ever happening for Tex.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous.
Tex is going to be the MVP runner-up this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah!
A straight answer. We’ll hold you to this one, Donuts.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem, Gossip Queen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So in other words
He’s still not going to be the MVP.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would venture that since Tex has left Baseball Siberia and is now playing games in high-profile NYC that he will
become one of the inner-circle candidates for the MVP for the next 5 years.
He was a starter in the AS game this year and will likely make the team for the next several years.
Come to terms with it, Little Boy Donuts had to give up a HOF player in his prime to bring back Tiny E & Feliz.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to give up is right.
What do you think it would have taken to sign Tex as a free agent – or even to extend him – to get him to stay in Texas?
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said in the spring of 2007 that the Rangers should offer
Tex an 8 year / $ 184 million contract.
Missed it by $ 4 million.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should offer
Is not “would have signed with Texas for.”
Missed it by $4 million is a pipe dream. All things are not equal and the same price from Texas and NYY, for that player, means he was going to NYY.
Try again, douchebag.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed by more than that.
That would have been paying free agent rates for two arbitration years (2007, 2008).
Using the general evaluation that the last year of arbitration a player earns 80% of his free agency rate, and the 2nd year before free agency is 60% of that rate - the Yankee’s offer would have been 166.5 / 8 in spring of 2007 to be equivalent to 180 / 8 in 2009. Excluding any inflationary effects of course.
If the Rangers had offered 160 / 8 in spring of 2007, that would have been roughly equal to what the Yankees offered in terms of free agent value per year, except ending in 2015 instead of 2017.
In other words, 8/184 would have been grossly overpaying in spring of 2007, as that would have implied that his free agent years were worth 25.3 per year. (23 * 8 – 23*.8 – 23*.6) / 6 — while the Yankees are only paying 22.5 per free agent year.
by Trickman on Oct 21, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More specifically, I wanted the Rangers to sign him
to that deal beginning in the 2008 season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A $180 million contract would look great in the middle of our $68 million payroll now
And if we couldn’t win with Teixiera when we were paying him $9 million, what would change if we were paying him twice as much?
by twinkilling on Oct 21, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Mark Teixeira had played 1B for the Rangers in 2009
we very likely would have been in the playoffs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who would have played SS?
who would have caught?
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Everett & Orlando Cabrera
were very available to play SS before the season and they would have kept GLaird.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So by signing Teix..
We’d suddenly have the extra cash to extend our budget in order to add more free agents?
Laird reduced payroll by ~2M, Teix by 9m (23M based on your offer) and replaced those players with 500k costs.
Even at their discounted rates, that’s an unrealistic addition if Tex did sign.
by Trickman on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I think Andrus was the catalyst behind the entire defensive improvement which you yourself have admitted in many of your Nolan Ryan made this thing get religious about defense arguments. With Tex, there is no Andrus. Young would not have moved to 3B for a journeyman like Cabrera or Everett nor would the Rangers have had the courage to ask him to move for one of those guys. You have Young at SS, no real option at 3B, Laird still fatting around behind the plate, and the same Rangers ballclub you have seen for years.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the reasons Detroit had
so much improvement in runs allowed this year is because they had major upgrades at SS & C (Everett & Laird).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great job
At least you are consistent in that you never really give a rebuttal to someone’s point. Young finally agreed to move because the FO made him see that Andrus would be playing SS for a lot of years here and staying at SS was delaying the inevitable. Young would not have moved so we could sign Adam Everett’s sorry ass to a 1 or 2 year deal. Therefore, your scenario makes no sense. You are awarded no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so much of MYoung's reluctance
to move to 3B came from the fact that they were replacing him with a 20 year old who had an OPS below .720 in AA.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
you honestly think if the great Nolan Ryan himself would have approached Young and said we want you to move so we can sign Adam Everett who couldn’t hit .250 in the NL, he would have said yes and been happy?
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Ryan talked Young into moving
for an unproven 20 year old so I don’t there’d be any problem talking him into moving for an established vet.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have
been asked to move to 3rd regardless of his replacement(almost anyone would be a better defender at SS).
Who his replacement was going to be should have been immaterial.
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by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreeance somewhat.
I think MYoung had two big problems initially with the move.
A rookie was replacing him and he was told by somebody (LIttle Boy Donuts) he didn’t respect.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have been
but it obviously wasn’t. Young, like almost all these guys, has an ego. To be told that a 20 year old who might be the SS for the next 10 or more years is replacing you is one thing. To say it is going to be a journeyman fill for 1-2 years is not something he was going to accept.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
I’ve never bought the “teamates stealling MVP votes” argument unless the two players were close in value. A-rod’s year this year was pretty pedestrian for his standards. .286-30-100, Tex was the clear Yankee MVP this year in both triple crown and triple slash scores. And this on one of more balanced Yankee offenses in recent years. (9 guys in double digits in homers, 7 with 20 or more, 7 with 80 or more RBI’s.
compare that to the rangers who had both 9 guys in double digits in homers and 6 with 20 or more, but only 2 with 80 or more RBI’s……
by iblum on Oct 21, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's going to change with Tex's MVP chances now?
He’s had great seasons in the past but never made it past 7th in the voting. Now though, he is playing for the Yankees and will have that edge in the voting. The only problem is that one of the other MVP candidates in the near future is also a Yankee and gets that same benefit (talking about A-Rod here). A-Rod will post similar offensive numbers to Tex if not better, but he also gets the edge of playing a premium defensive position instead of just 1B. And if Jeter can miraculously repeat this season’s performance ever again, he’s also going to be considered an MVP candidate (albeit very undeserving). So yes, Tex will see his teammates “stealing” his votes.
As for A-Rod’s season, he hit 30 HRs and 100 RBIs in only 124 games. This was more of a “down” year for him and he still had a season that rivals the best Tex has ever put up. If he can stay healthier next season and sees some regression go in his favor, he’s going to have a better season than this.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullpen usage
you mean the Rangers bullpen, ranked 6th in MLB in WPA and had the 2nd fewest blown saves in baseball? Yeah, just terrible.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 21, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were some nice individual performances from the bully
but time & again Wash f’d up by leaving starters in too long (Minnesota games in August), bringing in the wrong reliever at the wrong time (Eddie G v. the Bosox in August) or going to a reliever who had pitched too much the evening previous (CJ in NYC or Frank Frank in Seattle with 7-2 lead).
Lots of LSB types who are Washington Sympathizers wanna blame this on Maddux but given how poorly the 2008 bully was utilized, my Blame Assessor puts it on Washington citing consisentcy from the year previous as the strongest evidence.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington is not a great tactician, duh
but his bullpen foibles are greatly overstated by many here. If he was so awful, that bullpen could not have ranked so high in WPA. The bullpen was in the middle of the pack in ERA, but decent leveraging by Washington had the WPA among the best. There were a few games where he made obvious blunders, but by and large his bullpen management this year was not bad.
No anecdotes about a game here and there are going to convince me otherwise.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 21, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect that similiar claims could be made about any manager
if you watched them for 162 games over the course of a season.
by twinkilling on Oct 21, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The argument could also be made that the bully's numbers
would be much better if they had a manager who knew what the hell he was doing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go ahead and make it.
please stick to the numbers.
by twinkilling on Oct 21, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't get EG's comment about Strop
He showed enough to warrant further inspection next spring, but he’s going to have to be able to go more than one inning if he is going to be of legitimate help.
why does a reliever have to go more than one inning? I’m not saying he can’t do it, but by and large relievers pitch one inning, and that’s all I’d want out of him. He’s not going to be our long man.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
and Pedro did go two innings alot in Frisco.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Generally speaking...
…only LOOGYs and closers are limited to one inning. Occasionally an 8th inning setup guy, but generally, most of your bullpen is made up of guys who you expect can go more than 1 inning when needed.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
generally speaking relievers avg
about 1 inning per game pitched. Most guys go 1 inning, not more, and if they do go more it is the 1 1/3 variety. The only relievers that are usually consistently asked to go more than one innings are long men. That is not what Strop would appear to be to me.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If most of your guys only go one inning
It doesn’t take much to wear out your bullpen.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the way it is
it is important for your starter to go deep into games, pitchers pitch in back to back days. guys are called up from the minors to be able to pitch because a team is short-handed. 7 or 8 relievers can usually handle the load, but the avg IP per game by a reliever is around 1.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strop
What I believe Evan was trying to get at is that Strop needs to be able to pitch multiple innings because next year he probably won’t be a guy called on in close games or late in games. He will probably be used in games we are behind or up by a large amount. Almost like a mop-up guy. with CJ, Frankie, and Oday the late innings are pretty much covered. Where a team gets in trouble is when they have to burn alot of relievers in blow outs because guys can’t go very long.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want some laughs
jump over to Halos Heaven and read that nonsense.
“Umpires Greenlight Yankees Victory” is the headline. One guy is seriously convinced that the mob is paying the umpires to get the Yankees into the W.S. so Vegas can make more money. When hit with the obvious what about the Swisher call question, he states that they had to blow one the other way to not make it obvious. This guy is completely serious also. It’s not even close to a bit.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this ALCS...
has drawn a close to any doubts that HH is full of crazy people. The umpiring has been atrocious, it’s true, but they’ve gone full retard over there. Especially considering the shameful Spitgate hoax fiasco they perpetrated. At least the rest of the Internet now knows what the rest of us have been saying for years.
Imagine if Sharky ran this blog and we all acted like some kind of cult-ish baseball truthers who actually believed that team chemistry mattered most and destiny was real. Besides everyone that is actually an LA Angel, HH is the reason I’m rooting (begrudgingly) for the New York Yankees.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 21, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, if you look at the key
questionable plays. The pick-off at 2nd didn’t go against LAA because of the tag up bad call. The two guys out at 3rd didn’t score after the fact, and the Angels still lost 10-1. Maybe if this was a 5-4 game, they could have a gripe, but cmon. They lost last night because they couldn’t touch CC and the Yankees pounded them.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I said to the spouse
If it’s a one-run game, OK, they MIGHT have a beef.
10-1? Really? All the Yankees needed was two runs.
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"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Oct 21, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When that was brought up
they resorted to the Kazmir was getting squeezed so bad and he’s a guy who lives on the edge of the zone argument. If he hadn’t been getting squeezed, he could have gone longer and shut them down more. Forget the fact that Kazmir is routinely at the top of the pitches per inning stat and has always had a problem getting through the middle innings.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read this last night
mentioned it in the discussion thread too.
Unbelievable. This is an “off the deep end” on a scale not seen before.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Oct 21, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not seen before?
Have you read much Rev Halofan? That guy is a) retarded and b) crazy. He is the unquestionable David Koresh of HH (or just King of Crazies).
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have
but this is a whole new level of batshit. Maybe I just think that because I’m looking at it from a rational point of view.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Oct 21, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is crazy
however I can find myself going somewhere down that line if it were the Rangers in this series.
I remember myself screaming during the Gophers/Penn State game this weekend about an overturned call on a pass that might have hit the ground. I realized about twenty seconds that I was going overboard. Oh, and I was listening to it on the radio. Sports can do things to a person…
by Heebs on Oct 21, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I confess
….that I still harbor a resentment for the NBA and I believe the Mavs-Heat finals were fixed. However, setting league records in free points and fouls is different than one botched DP call that went against your team in a 10-1 beatdown.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
that was an attempt to “create” the next Michael Jordan with Dwayne Wade. And, the NBA is different because there is contact on every drive to the basket. The official is put in the unenvious postion of deciding which contact effected the shot and which didn’t.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gagree
that I still harbor a resentment for the NBA and I believe the Mavs-Heat finals were fixed.
Still bitter.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 21, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep!!
Stern will NEVER hand a trophy to Cuban as long as he’s the commish.
Wash is an idiot!!
by bspate on Oct 21, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come the hell on
Is this now Mavs Heavan? For the most part, refs can only affect over/under not outcomes.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Oct 21, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Refs can easily affect outcomes
When one player gets as many FTs as the opponent, the outcome of the game can be changed.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAT
“refs can only affect over/under not outcomes.”
You didn’t watch that series, did you?
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OUTRAGEOUS
claim.
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
The way that series played out put a series damped in my NBA following. It was a multitude of things but that was the icing on the cake.
This is the Texas Rangers, professional destroyers of hope, we're talking about. - BAC
by nikpin on Oct 21, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I used to watch every game
and go to quite a few.
Now, I’ll watch maybe if I’m bored and I’ll only go if someone gives me tickets. I went from being pretty diehard to almost as casual as it gets.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 21, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I as well
have not been able to rekindle the flame I once had for the Mavs after that garbage. I too used to make sure I was home to watch every game and make occasional trips to the AAC. Playoff games were treated like a holiday. We would get to the Pourhouse at 5 p.m. for an 8:30 tipoff just to make sure we had a good seat in front of the projector. Now, I might see a quarter or two of a playoff game. It just doesn’t do it for me anymore.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then
you were never a fan to begin with. The bandwagon departs this upcoming Tuesday. You will be missed.
I imagine there were many “sudden” fans of the Mav’s as they made their run. This is exactly the type of Stars fan I was were they were going to the Finals. My group would get to the bar/restaurant 2 hours early to have a good table to watch every playoff game for the several years the Stars were great. I thought I was/had become a hockey fan. It only took one average season for me to lose complete interest. I now may catch a minute here or there during commercial breaks of another show. I’m sure I will be back once the winning happens again, but I will never confuse myself with a Star’s “fan”.
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
thank you for that post preacher. I hope you didn’t sprain your ankle getting down off your pedestal. I was not a “sudden” Mavs fan. I used to ask for tickets to Mavs games as a birthday present in the 90’s when they were winning 15-20 a year. I went to Game 4 of the Mavs/Jazz series in 2001 when it might have been the last ever game at Reunion. I wasn’t turned off by the Mavs, I was turned off by the NBA as a whole. I lost interest in watching star players receive preferential treatment down the stretch run leading to a referee basically deciding the outcome of a game. I still love the Mavs, I just hate the NBA.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you dont love the
Mav’s if you watch a qtr or 2 of a playoff game. Sorry.
If you have extenuating circumstances(health/role play w/ your partner) then I take back my assertion. Otherwise, you are not a fan.
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
1. I don’t have much time anymore due to Spring Football being around the same time.
2. Again, I love the Mavs, but I loathe the NBA. Watching the same guy repeatedly go to the FT line down the stretch is not entertaining at all.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damper*
Woops
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by nikpin on Oct 21, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without a doubt the Mavs were on the bad end of some
bad officiating in that series but they won the first two games of The Finals and had a 13 point lead in Game 3 with 6 minutes left to play.
DStern had nothing to do with the Mavs choking that lead, Devin Harris blowing several gimme lay-ups or Dirk & Josh missing critical FTs.
It’s the Mavs own damn fault they choked in that series and I consider myself a fan.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It
hurts. Growing up, I Ioved seeing MJ get all the calls and loved poor Ehlo getting used. Watching it happen to my favorite team made me literally sick to my stomach.
Although I do think Dirk is often a beneficiary of thii, especially when he flails his arms wildly after a missed layup in the lane.
In other news, why is Blue allowed to potentially win the Mav’s PA job when he seems to be a racist of the highest order when he calls in to talk radio. I wonder if he has taken the opportunity to call out Donnie Nelson to his face?
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Blue from The Grove" is one
of PA finalists?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he was one of the final 10
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room
by red shoe ranger on Oct 21, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conspiracy
I’m never one to call out for conspiracy but it is amazing how many glaringly bad calls this postseason has offered (especially going in favor of the Yankees). This year has been wrought with game changing missed calls by the umpires.
I find it funny that this is happening while the NBA is going through a lockout right now of its referees. This is especially funny when considering that many basketball officianados are talking about how bad the regular referees must be if the replacement refs make them look this good. This movement is led largely in part by Bill Simmons (or so it seems).
I don’t really mind the miscalls on plays at the bases. Those kind of bang bang calls are part of the game and are really difficult for umpires to get right all the time. The same goes for balls and strikes. I don’t mind the human element of it and can forgive them. What I find unforgiveable is the play at the 3rd base in last nights game and the misscall down the left field line in Game 2 of the ALDS between the Twins and Yankees. Absolutely unbelievable. At least we know these were two different crews out there.
by Heebs on Oct 21, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HH Hilariousness
This is just one of many instances this postseason where the most ratings-friendly team in baseball located in a favorable media market is being gifted more opportunities to score and to wear down the opposing pitcher.
LA is not a favorable media market?
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
x
Found here.
Match Day 5: We played way to shitty to pin this on the Umps.
Big Bad, “Vlad”!: way to give the umps a pass, JEEZUS!!! DID YOU SEE THE GAME|????
And it gets crazier from there.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was
one of my favorites. Big Bad Vlad then went on to admit he was hammered and still drinking.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
…the username Big Bad, “Vlad”! makes no sense. Why is there a comma?
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and cmkelly29 wading right in the middle of all the misery...
some pretty funny stuff in there.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 21, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSB drawing ever closer to that place is why I don't come here too often any more
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Oct 21, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost posted over there
but knew it would result in the typical we live in Cali you are jealous, Texas people are stupid rednecks and you haven’t been to the playoffs in years comments. Not worth it.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I only go over there to LOL at the comments. I think I only ever posted once, in the Adenhart thread.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Oct 21, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’m not even a member there. Not worth suffering those fools.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you're at nearly 19,000 LSB posts ....
how many posts would you have if you weren’t so disgusted?
LOL
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 21, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, c'mon dude
I’ll admit, LSB is probably getting closer and closer to Lookout Landing on the crazy meter… but this place isn’t anywhere close to degenerating into an oversensitive, peevish, delusional collection of fanboys headed up by a whackjob yuppie preacher from California.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 21, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You tell him!
Adam’s not from California! The very idea!
by mgb5 on Oct 21, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was banned
for speaking out against their crackpot blogger.
I don’t think I was trolling or anything.
by cmkelly29 on Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you weren't trolling... it was funny actually..
and then he banned you? LOL
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Oct 21, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rev
is heavy handed with the ban stick. I read some argument over there where he had banned a guy for saying Tim Salmon wasn’t a top 5 all time Angel or something. The guy got a new screenname and was calling him out for banning him based on his differing opinion. It was greatness.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Rev is a sore loser
and that he gives his readers a bad name. It’s true. Over the Monster had a huge fanpost about Rev and his shenanigans. I’m going to paraphrase but someone had said something like “Their main blogger would only pass as a run-of-the-mill troll on every other SBN site.”
It’s all in my message history.
by cmkelly29 on Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
@jorgearangure Breaking: Aroldis Chapman to arrive today in New York to begin series of meetings with teams. Story to be posted soon.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As long as baseball umpires get to act like.....
they are bigger than the game, these bad calls will continue…..because there is no repremanding in baseball!! The umps have too much power.
When they won’t get together to turn over a call because they don’t want to show up their buddy…..sad.
When they will threaten to walk out if they show a blown call on replay in the stadium, when it’s done in every other sport……sad.
When you can’t even have a heated argument with an official without getting tossed….sad.
There needs to be replay or at least a challenge system in place to prevent crap like this!! It won’t happen in baseball because the umps don’t care about making a better product on the field, they care about their feelings getting hurt.
Since the NFL has adopted the challenge system, I haven’t thought about how this has shown up the officials……..instead, when I see a blown call, I just think it’s alright, they will challenge it, get it right, and move on.
Baseball wants to be stuck in the stone age when it comes to making a better product on the field.
Wash is an idiot!!
by bspate on Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More on Scheppers' game last night
@ProspectInsider Scheppers’ one-inning Tuesday night — no brs, 2ks, plus breaking ball, 94-97 mph, touched 98. He’s good.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that the Rangers took the injury risk with him
It looks like it can pay off big time.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got a little worried last night when there was an injury delay
between his 2nd K and the ground out. Then Scheppers wasn’t in the next inning. There was no description on the injury delay, so I have no idea who was injured, but if there are stories out and nothing about a Scheppers injury, I’m good. very good in fact.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Grilli gone
GrillCheese49 My day just got more interesting-as said earlier tweet-A leader can’t lead until he knows where he is going-Texas took me off the roster
GrillCheese49 Team #7 possibly? We shall see-Ah the joys & glamour of the baseball business. I LIVE 4 THIS! Gonna be some Rocky Balboa training commence
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well he looked good for a few weeks there!
Cya grillcheese.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Oct 21, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
was Grilli a leader?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure.
But his Tweets were so ultra annoying that I had to unfollow.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I just had a friend text me to find out what happened, because she also unfollowed him for being annoying. I’m about to be there too.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Oct 21, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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