Rangers Outright Grilli & Richardson
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 2:13 PM CDT
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On Wednesday, the club outrighted both RHP Jason Grilliand C Kevin Richardson to Triple-A Oklahoma after both cleared waivers. Grilli is expected to become a free agent. The Rangers have interest in re-signing Richardson to a minor league deal. The biggest development of these moves is that it clears two spots, bringing the total number of players under control to 38. The roster must be set by Nov. 20 ahead of the winter meetings
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Why?
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Oct 21, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Made $800K last year
Not worth the ~$1M he would make if offered arbitration. Not a surprising move.
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Oct 21, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was before the injury
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the offseason.
Not mediocre. Right about average
by trza on Oct 21, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 21, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Lame move by the Rangers
Jason was one of the good guys in the pen, and i think he will be even better next season, stupid move!
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
by TRFAN on Oct 21, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i would have bet he was going to get non-tendered anyway
Grilli is not that good and there are a lot of better relievers than Grilli out there.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
As Evan’s column mentioned, Grilli kinda fell apart there towards the end.
We have enough pitching prospects that I’m sure we can fill the Grand Canyon of a void left by his 0.3 WAR.
by jwiscarson on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grilli was pretty damn stout before his injury
1.53 ERA without allowing a single inherited runner to score over 17.2 IP
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
journeyman
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Oct 21, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would wager...
…that they felt that he’d be superfluous next season, and they didn’t want to go to arbitration with him.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see him being a nonroster invitee next year
if doesn’t sign on somewhere else instead.
by MikeEl on Oct 21, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I could see him not signing somewhere...
…just as easily as I could see someone with a real need signing him. I wouldn’t mind bringing him back as an NRI.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grilli is a good
last guy in the bullpen arm. Those are a dime a dozen at this point anyways.
Offer him a MILB deal with an invitation to ST. Then take him into the season with the intention of moving one of the younger guys into his spot after they pass the Super 2 threshold.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Oct 21, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather offer Benoit a MiLB deal.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Benoit Healthy?
I’d just as soon stay away from recovering guys a la Jennings ver. 2.0.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly yes
And if so, he’s a hell of alot better than JJ.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
JJ was supposed to be healthy too, and Jennings used to be good as well. I’m really not wanting to bring back Benoit in any capacity.
by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your Opinion is Wrong and Silly
Benoit is a baseball god.
by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's Mathis doing in the pen, then?
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 21, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about the arbitration part?
Because he isn’t there yet.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Aside from that.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 21, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was not good.
check his stats after his elbow injury
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by NYTXFAN on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stupid move?
He’s a 33 year old journeyman spare. If the Rangers can’t come up with something better than him for next year then they have serious issues.
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by DaheelzCM on Oct 21, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows what the injury did to him
But you cannot call what he did for us until he got injured the work of a “spare”.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
A spare on a hot streak that will revert to sparedom.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by DaheelzCM on Oct 21, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like one of those spare tires
that can only be used at under 50 mph or so for a short time.
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by t ball on Oct 22, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the first of many "clean up the 40" moves
that we can expect to see in the coming weeks. Grilli could be offered a minor league deal or an NRI deal for 2010.
by twinkilling on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillips and Kirkman
But Jason Cole doesn’t think they would get claimed so they might not put them on.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A.J. Murray is a 6 year MLB free agent too.
They might put him on.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*MiLB*
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he didn't get the call up last September
when the only situational lefty in the bullpen was Eddie I don’t think he will see a major league roster spot with the Rangers…
by MikeEl on Oct 21, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rule 5 eligiblity, 6 year FAs, etc.
http://rangers.scottlucas.com/site/rule5.htm
"It's not a good strategy, but it's my strategy." -- Courtney Lucas
by Lucas on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill (Madison WI)
Tanner Scheppers // Aaron Crow. Who has the highest ceiling? When will each one debut in the majors?
Jim Callis
(2:08 PM)
Scheppers has a higher ceiling because he has legit power stuff, but I’d still take Crow because I feel much better about his health. I think Crow could be in Kansas City before the end of next year, and Scheppers could be in Texas in 2011.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Oct 21, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has he seen Crow's mechanics?
I wouldn’t feel that much better about his health if I were him.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think there is just a negative
stigma involving Scheppers’ shoulder. Anybody who is going to predict anything is most likely going to take that into account. Does Crow have an injury history? Either way, I’m happy we were able to sign Scheppers this year, and I hope he stays healthy. I, also, feel like picking up Gutierrez makes up for the loss of Purke the Jerk
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adding Kikuchi
would completely couteract losing Purke. However, i dont know how likely that is to happen
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 21, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would?
I’d much rather have Purke.
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 4:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
wasnt a "pundit"
quoted a day or two ago saying he would be top 5 in the 2010 draft? Kikuchi that is
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link
http://newberg.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/10/rangers_to_meet_with_kikuchi_t.html
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 21, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke is a much more known commodity
And you could easily find a scout who would say that Purke was a top 5 talent in last year’s draft.
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 5:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
So purke
was a top 5 talent last year and kikuchi is a top 5 talent in the upcoming draft. Seems fairly comparable to me.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how you say that so definitively
One (1!) scout said that about Kikuchi.
by LiamP on Oct 22, 2009 1:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
you said you could easily
find a scout that said about purke well i easily found a scout that said that about kikuchi. Before you go and find another scout and i dont, I would wager that Purke was more written about in terms of where he would go in the draft than Kikuchi has been.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 22, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
That’s my whole point about Purke being a known commodity. He’s been much more heavily scouted than Kikuchi, so you have a better idea of what you’re getting. As a result, the fact that Purke was widely regarded as one of the biggest talents in the draft means exponentially more than one guy throwing out a Kershaw comp and calling him a top 5 talent.
by LiamP on Oct 22, 2009 3:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Fairly well respected scout...
yeah you right, the hell with pursuing kikuchi lets go back in time and sign purke instead
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 22, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Fucking Christ
I give up.
by LiamP on Oct 22, 2009 3:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Since this was mentioned recently...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM
monty python argument skit.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 22, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have one face that could be superimposed
It’s a start anyway…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Oct 22, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IDK about that
If we hit on Kikuchi, the Rangers would probably become the go-to team for talented high school pitchers in Japan. If we would have hit on Purke, you’re looking at a somewhat equivalent TORP but you don’t get much out of it for future drafts.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The Rangers would probably become the go-to team for talented high school pitchers in Japan. "
Yeah, not so sure about that.
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 5:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
that would be a very nice signing, but would hardly guarantee Japanese players suddenly rushing to talk to TX before any other club. It certainly would raise the Rangers’ profile in Japan significantly, though, and perhaps even the playing field in the future a bit. Right now NYY, Boston and maybe the Mariners and Dodgers have the highest profiles in Japan, but signing Kikuchi would put TX on the map for a lot of fans and players over there.
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by t ball on Oct 21, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please.
Jason Bottsu has done PLENTY for this organization’s name over there
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now
HS players in Japan aren’t likely to come straight here. If the Rangers develop Kikuchi (that is a fun name to say which makes me want this to work out that much more) into even a LAIE, they are going to be the only team to actually have a success story. It doesn’t mean that Texas will get whoever they want for dirt cheap, but it would mean that we would start being treated like Boston is over there where players will take a little less money just to play ere.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, surely you see that you're making huge assumptions here
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 6:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What assumptions?
I understand that if we get Kikuchi, he might not turn into anything more than a scrub reliever if that. If he does though, I think you’re underestimating how Texas gains a lot from Kikuchi developing into a solid pitcher for the Rangers.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think we were pretty much in the know about Purke not signing
and were fine taking another pick next year knowing we get equal if not greater talent with the Scheppers pick that is closer to the majors
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 21, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no way they were fine with taking a comp pick
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 5:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
obviously there is
it happened. we’re moving on.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since Nolan gets so much credit,
why not some blame in the Purke deal? He supposedly told everybody not to worry about signing the kid, ‘cause he was represented by Nolan’s buddy & business partner’s firm.
Guess that one back-fired, so it’s either on Nolan or MLB, if Galloway’s to be believed.
by tklawless on Oct 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lay blame across the board for not signing him
but I believe they had an idea that it was a crapshoot and won’t admit it
think about it though – you have no money, but you want a premium pitcher in the draft. you take Scheppers – knowing he’ll cost 1/3 or less as much as Purke, and you take Purke. You hope he gives you the hometown discount. You hope Nolan can get him. But you realize that if he doesn’t, you still have Tanner’s electric arm and a comp pick next year. Will that comp pick be as good as Purke? Maybe not. But maybe so, with sign-ability concerns for other teams, and if we have new ownership with financial flexibility next year, we can steal a top 10 talent that falls.
I think it’s a perfect strategy in such a desperate time.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They took Purke first
I don’t know what the percentages were but I have a hard time believing they thought they would land Scheppers in the supplemental round also. So dont make it sound like they knew they were drafting Scheppers and took Purke also knowing they wouldn’t have the money to sign both
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 22, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sir, need to STFU
Nolan has never done anything wrong in his life…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Oct 22, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it would completely erase
the sting of Purke not signing.
"Blister please, with those wings in your spine.
Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
Wrapped in boxes so tight, sounding only at night as you sleep." ~Jeff Magnum; Neutral Milk Hotel
by jdh90 on Oct 21, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also still get a pick for Purke next year.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we could end up with 2 first rounders next year and a Supplemental 1st
if we don’t sign a type A and don’t sign Byrd
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 21, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and they'll end up taking a guy at that spot with much less talent than Purke.
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 5:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly what I'm saying.
by LiamP on Oct 21, 2009 6:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
it's fine. everything is OK.
we’ll just draft him in 2 or 3 years again.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who is Gutierrez, pardon my ignorance?
Nice to see Callis says Scheppers flat-out has a higher ceiling
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daniel Gutierrez
a highly touted prospect we got from KC this year. We traded Manny Pina and Tim Smith to get him. Gutierrez has a plus fastball and plus curve. He got 1 start in for Frisco before the season ended just after the trade. He is pitching in the AFL right now.
here is his milb.com player page link
the AFL fields some of the best talent in the minors and in 6.2 IP 0 ERs and a .091 BAA. small sample but I’d rather see good numbers than bad.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 22, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for nothing, G
I missed that earlier.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Oct 22, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where does he fit in our top 10 or 20 prospects?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the edge of top ten perhaps
2. Smoak
3. Perez
4. Scheppers
5. Ross
6. Font
7. Main
8. Kiker
9. Boscan
around 10 or so I would put Gutierrez. Like it said in the article, he needs to extend his innings, but he’s got a wicked curve with a 95 mph fastball.
any number of our 10 – 20 are still breakout candidates coming into next year.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 22, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were ranking them by jackass factor, ne's numero uno
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Oct 22, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that why KC would part with him?
Does he have “make-up issues”?
by tklawless on Oct 23, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had a sort of falling out with KC
i think regarding there approach with his rehab. He was pretty excited to leave KC and join the Ranger organization. KC is in shambles right now and they have one of the worst GMs in baseball. Either way, he only cost us Manny Pina and Tim Smith neither is a loss that was ever going to be an impact player for the Rangers.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 23, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is the royals preseason
top 20 prospects list from their SBN site. It recaps this year
here is the excerpt from Royals Review
4. Daniel Gutierrez SP 3/8/1987 B-T: R-R
Danny Gutierrez showed why the Royals have been so excited about him. He started at Wilmington and had a 2.59 ERA in 74 innings with 92 Ks and 21 walks. He was promoted to NW Arkansas and had 3.13 ERA in 52 innings with 55k and 9 walks. He has always had a great fastball/curveball but his changeup improved this year. He could have an outside shot of being with the big club in 2010 but will probably get some more seasoning in Omaha. He has a shot at being a #2 starter for the big club at some point.
In Retrospect: Funny how things work out, huh? Gutierrez had a nightmare year—from injuries to run ins with the law to run ins with Royals management. We ended up selling low on him to the Texas Rangers. He would not be the Royals #4 prospect were he still in the organization but he remains an arm with good upside if he can get his head screwed on straight.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 23, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im surprised but not shocked
he was good there for a while then just started to implode.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 21, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll miss Richardson's wife.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Oct 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah,
I’d outright her.
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by t ball on Oct 21, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I go to find a picture of Richardson's wife as I missed her "debut."
I put into Google searching Images – Kevin Richardson Baseball wife. In with all the Backstreet boys crap, I see 2 very familiar pictures. The first is Big Steve’s avatar picture which explains several things at once for me (I thought maybe it was BS’s girlfriend/significant other shown on TV for a sec). Mrs. Richardson is definitely a looker. The other pic? Well, it’s Micah and she is kissing a baseball. I laughed. Congrats baseball is my boyfriend. It ain’t CD the interwebs is putting you with, it’s Kevin Richardson.
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by Parman on Oct 22, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here, she's in the video of his first hit
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 22, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice gams
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by t ball on Oct 22, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very attractive
And nice gams too ;)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Oct 22, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
My favorite part about that video is when they toss the ball to the dugout for Richardson, nobody lifts a damn finger to get that ball. Holland just watches it roll by.
by FuturePants on Oct 22, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is funny
I wish the Michael Moore look a like would move his freaking head.
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by Parman on Oct 22, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am totally fine with this
we have some high quality arms moving up through the system, and we seem to be more inclined to bringing them up into the bullpen before starting.
Relievers that need some seasoning: Madrigal, Strop, Beau Vaughan, Beau Jones, Garr, Zach Phillips
Starters that will potentially debut in the bullpen in 2010: Poveda, Kiker, Beavan, Scheppers, Martin Perez
That’s a lot of high end talent to come up and help out. Of course, they’re not seasoned veterans – which is a risk.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 21, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Concur...
I wasn’t that high on Grilli anyway. I’d much rather have the flexibility in the 40.
Grilli started off okay, but then tailed off. He’d probably be somewhere in the middle for an entire season. I think there are better options right now for the Rangers ’pen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 21, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got hurt
Grilli was two completely different pitchers pre and post injury. I have to think the Rangers aren’t comfortable with his health to do this move. He will get a contract with someone else almost assuredly. The only explanation I can see is flexibility. Keeping him would mean having few guys with options in the pen and so it would make calling guys up on emergency basis alot harder so might as well rid yourself of him now.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a guy claimed off of waivers
He’s a career journeyman. The fact that he was really good in 15 innings or whatever in Texas before he got hurt doesn’t change that.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 22, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was pretty damn good in 2008 also
He strikes guys out and can pitch multiple innings. He may have been with a bunch of teams but I don’t know if i’d call him a journeyman. He was traded twice and rule 5 drafted once. Hes only been released once and that was early in his career. He’ll get a contract from someone if his health checks out
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 22, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullpen
I highly highly doubt we see Beavan or Perez in 2010 at all. Maybe 2011 in the pen but I can’t see next year being feasible.
And Vaughan and Garr are waaaaaaaaaaay down the list of guys who need seasoning and will get a shot next year IMO
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything can happen
re: Beavan and Perez. I didn’t say it was likely, but there’s a chance. I forgot to mention Hurley if he’s healthy enough.
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by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Grilli’s a decent mid-reliever, and he did have the third-highest K/9 in the bullpen (unless you count Feliz and you might as well since Grilli wasn’t here all year) but he’s not a guy we need to keep on the 40 when we’ve got guys like Moscoso, Kiker and Poveda who could fill his role out of the ’pen next year.
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by lonestarJon on Oct 21, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I see Nippert taking his spot with
Mathis being the swingman.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 21, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mathis will rpboably go back to sucking when his .269 BABIP goes back up next year
But agreed on Nippert.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 21, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty excited for a full year of Moscoso
for whatever reason
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by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since no one else brought it up
Does Richardson come back on a minor league deal or does he opt for free agency? How good is his defense? From his limited limited at bat, the Rangers should at least give him a minor league deal for 2010.
by Mark from OC on Oct 22, 2009 12:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised if they did
Richardson is one of those nice organizational depth guys who would fit in nicely catching at AAA. It’s not like they have another young promising catcher in the high minors. Yet.
by chrisR on Oct 22, 2009 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh
Max Ramirez?
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by nikpin on Oct 22, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he still a catcher or more of a DH?
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by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have to say catcher until you have a reason to move him. The only reason I could see them having right now is to keep him healthy next year. Truthfully I don’t ever really see him playing for the Rangers long term and you’d really think they might showcase him anyway possible.
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by nikpin on Oct 22, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mean what do we have him as
I mean what is most likely – that he’s an every day catcher or a starting DH?
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by Walter Sobchak on Oct 22, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most Likely?
Neither…Most likely he is the opening day catcher for the Redhawks.
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by nikpin on Oct 22, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MaxRam
doesn’t project to be an everyday catcher and he’s not likely to be the everyday catcher at OKC.
by chrisR on Oct 23, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 23, 2009 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JC thinks
he’ll likely split time at catcher and DH next year.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 23, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 23, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keyword is "catcher"
doesn’t mean he won’t become an everyday player
by chrisR on Oct 23, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone explain..
organizational depth? Why, if Richardson has been catching the majority of these new pitchers we’ve been bringing up and has shown a capacity to hit, would the Rangers leave him in the minors this long? Are there just some players who never get promoted to the majors and, if so, how are guys like Teagarden still in the majors? I guess I just don’t get the mechanics of how the majors work. If it were me—and I’m glad it’s not—I would have given Richardson some of Teagarden’s starts. It seems like those ABs, at least, would have worked out a little better.
Which also brings up the question: What is up with Max Ramirez? He’s been on the major league roster most (all?) of the ‘09 season, but I can’t recall having seen him play.
by WesM on Oct 22, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richardson has shown no capacity to hit
and Max Ramirez had an injured wrist that kept him out of action for part of the season and likely affected his swing when he was playing. He had a pretty horrid year with the bat. Hopefully he gets healthy and starts mashing again next season.
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by tricer on Oct 22, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Richardson
He’s 29, and has a career line in the minors of .239/.325/.410. He’s a guy you keep in AAA as insurance, but he’s not a major leaguer.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 22, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To further expand...
Not every player in your organization can be a legitimate prospect. The Rangers field 4 full season teams, two short season teams and two(?) DSL teams. Your going to have some guys that either never make it past a certain level that might stick around for a few years. It becomes even more prevalent in AAA when a lot of players have reached their potential which isn’t quite major league caliber. A lot of these guys can come up and look serviceable for a few games like Richardson did last year but would be exposed over the long season. Richardson hasn’t really shown a capacity to hit but can squat behind a plate reasonably well and call games and handle a staff well enough for AAA.
If you ever heard the saying “getting a cup of coffee” thats what I’d imagine guys like Richardson, Elizardo Ramirez, Royce Huffman, and a ton of other 26-32 year old guys are trying to accomplish in AAA. I guess you never now what could happen and one could catch lighting in a bottle but none of those guys have displayed anything to make the organization think otherwise. On Teagarden he has projection. He projects as anywhere from Above-Average to Gold Glove caliber defensively. Some think he can hit for plus power at the catching position and be somewhat of a TTO guy. He looked awful at the plate last season for the most part so who knows…
The point of not giving TT at bats to Richardson is that TT has a future with the club and they see a significantly greater potential in TT tools than they do Richardson who is all but tapped out potential wise.
Max Ramirez has been on the 40 man roster but not the ML roster for a while. Like someone else stated he had a wrist injury last season and was dreadful when healthy.
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by nikpin on Oct 22, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most scouts have had reservation's about TT's bat
he was thought to be major league ready behind the plate nearly from the time he was drafted, but a lot of scouts thought he’d be a career back-up mostly because they didn’t think he’d hit enough and the last 6 weeks of 2008 were a mirage.
I guess the jury’s still out, but his 2009 didn’t really allay any of those fears.
I’m pretty sure most Ranger fan’s aren’t as comfortable with our catching situation as we were before the 2009 season, when most thought Salty, TT, MaxRam might all be ML starter-types.
by tklawless on Oct 23, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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