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OT: Obama declares H1N1 a national emergency.


This is getting pretty scary.  According to this chart, almost every state has shown widespread activity.

http://cdc.gov/h1n1flu/updates/us/

 

I'd hate to have to still be getting on a subway. They should make everyone wear masks on the trains.

Has anyone besides T Ball had this and how debilitating was it? Well I guess there's not much you can do but

take the necessary precautions. I can't imagine this is going to help the xmas holiday shopping numbers.

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I'm moving to the Virgin Islands!

nyuk, nyuk, nyuk

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by Rodney on Oct 24, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure if you payed attention to your

body and how you were feeling, you could detect it really soon and get the treatment you need.

What sucks for me is that I work at a grocery store as a cashier and I come into contact with hundreds of people each day. There’s even a small clinic in our store. The people who are sick where mask over their face. I refer to them as the “infected”.

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Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
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by jdh90 on Oct 24, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

oh wow good for you ...

that you’ve been able to evade it so far being surrounded by it and all.

So have any of the other cashiers come down with it? If so, how long were they out of work?

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- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

There have been a few cashiers to get it.

But there have been more people that work in other departments get it, including the meat market.

"Blister please, with those wings in your spine.
Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
Wrapped in boxes so tight, sounding only at night as you sleep." ~Jeff Magnum; Neutral Milk Hotel

by jdh90 on Oct 24, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

We do. I use it quite a bit too.

"Blister please, with those wings in your spine.
Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
Wrapped in boxes so tight, sounding only at night as you sleep." ~Jeff Magnum; Neutral Milk Hotel

by jdh90 on Oct 24, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

There isn't any treatment

Tamiflu is in short supply and they’re only giving it to those who are likely to die or something. So there is a treatment, I guess, but it’s not for everyone.

Apparently the vaccine isn’t either. Unlike other states where they’re sending their vaccine to public health clinics where anyone can go, Texas prefers to send theirs to private clinicians. You’ll have to pay for a doctor’s visit and the shot on top of that. Perhaps they’re trying to kill off all of us without health insurance?

by Black Francis on Oct 24, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flu

wfaa had a flu call in q&a the other night with people from Methodist hospital answering the phones. The doctor they spoke to said they recommend anyone who meets the flu symptoms to just stay home as there isn’t going to be much of a treatment and to prevent spreading it.

He said to go to the hospital or doctor if you start experiencing shortness of breath or chest pains.

They only give tamiflu to the high risk extreme cases, the rest of us just have to lay in bed and drink fluids and let it pass. He did say it is typically a mild flu.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Oct 24, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

One thing to add, though. They say if you get sick with it, get better, and then get sick again that you should go to the ER. And obviously if your fever’s so high you’re at risk for brain damage you should probably jump in a tub of ice water and call 911.

It may be a mild flu, but I still wish Texas would have ordered more vaccine and re-think their vaccination program.

by Black Francis on Oct 24, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

some drugstores offer the vaccine, just like they do with season flu vaccines

of course that doesnt matter much if they dont actually have the vaccine, which seems to be the case right now.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Oct 25, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

that doesn't make any sense

In Texas the vaccination plan doesn’t call for Walgreens and CVS and places like to get it until February.

by Black Francis on Oct 25, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well it could be sooner

Especially if the White House decides Texas needs more vaccine than state officials ordered.

by Black Francis on Oct 25, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent

just in time for this wave to end, around March according to a Doctor I heard the other day.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 25, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flu Trends

Seems to think this particular wave is already ending in a lot of the country. Is in full swing in others.

by Black Francis on Oct 25, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The doctor I heard

says there are a lot of 8-10 week cycles, but the big wave of them should burn out by march. He was an infectious disease specialist at a local Houston hospital.

He says we are roughly halfway through the long cycle that started back in Mexico months ago.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 25, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets not overreact here

My son tested positive for Type A influenza a couple weeks ago. His doctor said the only flu going around was H1N1 so she considered it a positive test for the “Swine Flu”. My son never developed a fever above 100 and maybe threw up once.

Per his doctor, it is a widewpead flu of epedimic proportions. However, for most, the symptoms are not as severe as the normal seasonal flu. It should be treated like the normal seasonal flu with Tamaflu(sp) or other antiviral drugs. Call your doctor if any symptom worsens.

From my wife ( a Respiratory Therapist), they are seeing more flu patients in the hospital with respiratory problems. The H1N1 virus appears to effect the respiratory system more than the normal seasonal flu.

I have read reports in the internet that the H1N1 has been effecting a different subset of the population that normally doesn’t get (or have problems) with the flu: teens to early 20s. Some reports have also said that the elderly (or people born before 1960) may have been exposed to a similar flu strain in the 1950s so they have a natural immunity to H1N1.

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by RangerMad on Oct 24, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Your son's symptoms sound similar to mine

Never had a real high fever — when I went to the doctor, it was just under 100 — but real bad chills, and real bad respiratory problems.

They didn’t test me for the flu — I wasn’t in a high risk group, so I wouldn’t have gotten flu medicine anyway — but they said it was either the flu or a viral infection.

I’m still not 100%, almost 2 weeks after showing the symptoms the first time.

by Adam J. Morris on Oct 24, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right, it infects subpopulations pretty equally...

depending on your exposure levels. But this is different in that the symptoms seem to be worse in groups that normally handle the flu well.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 26, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

this would be scary

if we weren’t talking about a flu.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Oct 24, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

and bigguns,

you really think you are at risk for any complications? You are probably in the upper .5% in terms of physical fitness and nutrition – out of any at risk groups. I think you can handle the flue

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Oct 24, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeh you're right AB...I'm more scared for others actually..

I haven’t had a cold in over 15 years and have never had the flu so I’m not a prime candidate. That doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t suck though :) So far 1000 people have died in this country if it winds up being 5000 that’s a lot of people on top of the 36,000 that die on average from the regular flu.

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow
I haven’t had a cold in over 15 years

I’m not one to suffer many colds but wow, that’s great. Keep it up.

My mom had a friend who professed to avoiding sugar, and had the same record with colds.

What do you do?

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by hightowersmith on Oct 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't had a cold in 15 years?

I seem to get one every year. Do you just avoid shaking hands? Do you lock yourself in a room with jars of your own urine? TELL ME. Please. I hate getting sick.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Oct 24, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL well definatly not the urine thingy lol

I work for myself so I’m not around a lot of people. I do do little things like when I’m at the gym water fountain I always press the button with the towel between my finger and the button since so many people touch that thing during the course of the day but besides that even when I lived in NYC for those years I never go colds. I can’t explain it, I really think it has to do with taking really good care of yourself.

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe, maybe not

I take pretty crappy care of myself and still never get sick :D

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by Gdawg on Oct 24, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

the immune system isn’t located in the muscles :)

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 24, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha true but people who take care of themselves...

are usually healthier than those who don’t. Not always though :)

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would like this guy prolly

Big health & fitness guy, George DeJohn.

His blog.

I usually listen to his show on Saturday mornings.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Oct 24, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeh this guy is REALLY into it..

thanks Rodney, that was a good read.

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're quite welocme :)

I think Micheal Cave did his 21 day body makeover/cleanse. I’ll have to ask him how it turned out.

Here is the link to his show page, you can listen online Sat, 7-8am.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Oct 24, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's the guy who pitches some drink/diet

the detox program

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Oct 24, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually some folks who overtrain

can be more susceptible with compromised immune responses, oddly enough.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 24, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

knock on wood

I never get communicable diseases. I eat horribly, am out in public at least 8 hours a day, never sleep, I smoke, etc. For some reason I’m terrified of the flu every year even though in the 33 years I’ve been alive I’ve never had it. Haven’t had a cold in a long damn time either.

I have some sinus issues but that’s it.

All I can tell you is there’s really nothing you can do for sure to prevent it. You could lead a health lifestyle and wash your hands a lot and that would probably go a long way. Otherwise, hope you get just enough exposure to get immune rather than get the disease itself.

The more I think about it, the more I think hand washing is probably most important. I do a lot of that, but I just remembered my grandfather washed his hands constantly and was always saying how he hadn’t had a cold since he was a kid.

by Black Francis on Oct 24, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

15 years?

geez I seem to get them like every month. well ok , its usually sinus related and not a cold… but still.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Oct 24, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was similar...

but I had surgery last month to fix a deviated septum, so I’m hoping the 10-15 sinus infections I’d get per year are now over.

by vfn on Oct 24, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

well thank you......what do I do?

not catch colds.

I don’t know some people are just more sickly than others. There are some people who are always coming down with something but oftentimes they’re the ones who smoke. or don’t eat well or don’t get enough rest or a combination of the 3.. So maybe I can attribute my good health to not smoking (cigarettes) eating well (lots of oranges) and getting plenty of sleep and of course staying strong with the work outs.

Speaking of work outs …what ever happened with your PX90 aspirations?

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

oops meant for hightower

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

lack of sleep and proper nutrition

probably what is causing complications with age groups you would think are otherwise healthy. Luckily I get three squares and value my sleep.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Oct 24, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeh I always envied people who could get by on 5 hours sleep...

but not if it means always coming down with shit. I like my 8 hours period!

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 24, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sleep

I never understood the people that function on such little sleep. I simply can’t get by on less than 8hrs

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Oct 24, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't make myself sleep 8 hours,

unless I go to bed trashed or something.

I usually get 5-6, at most.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Oct 24, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its just a flu

that no folks have any antibodies for yet, so it will kill some folks, and it will spread faster. Then when we see this flu next time, it will be just like any other flu. This time however, its a new dance for people, because our immune systems aren’t ready for it.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 24, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

and it never hurts to scare the masses with an epidemic when you're trying to pass national health care..

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by bking on Oct 27, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

because H1N1 is completely made up, just like the WMDs and Iraq’s participation in 9/11.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 27, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, those are comparables

you telling me the chicken little predictions for H1N1, and the soon-to-be forthcoming critiques of how the mean ole’ drug companies dropped the ball on the vaccine and need oversight, are all on the up-and-up?

Like I’ve said many times – BOTH sides are guilty of gaming things. Still waiting on you to join me in that assertion.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

it’s not comparable. The H1N1 situation is a legitimite medical concern. At least Medical professionals aren’t being fed lies to be told to the UN.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 27, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ground Control to BKing

Nothing is being gamed here. Lots of people have the flu. It’s October.

That’s not normal.

by Black Francis on Oct 27, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know several people who claim they've had it

…and one who I’m very sure has it right now up in Ohio.

From what I can tell it’s not as bad as the normal flu, but it varies a lot between people. I know one guy who thought he was going to die but felt a lot better the next day. Another guy said it was like a horrific cold for a couple of days and then he started getting better. A lady down the hall from me said she tested positive for it back in the spring but just had a slight fever and that was it. My friend in Ohio now felt like ass the first day and a lot better the next. Says she’d rather have this than any of the other things she had in the past.

Nobody that I know of said it was the worst thing they’d ever been through in their life, though. I’ve heard that about the flu in past years but not this year, and as someone said earlier there’s been virtually no other strains reported to CDC. All swine, all the time. So far.

But like Cahill says, it’s a novel strain. Nobody’s seen it before and so it’s spreading like crazy. That’s the biggest difference.

by Black Francis on Oct 24, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That should be the CDC's slogan

All swine, all the time.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Oct 24, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spreading like crazy,

and some folks are gonna die before their immune systems adjust. Its the way evolution works :)

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 24, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But it’s a little difficult to tell who’s being “naturally selected” on this one. Normally flu kills the young and the old. This one doesn’t appear to be a lot more deadly, but is killing those people along with some young adults. Maybe it hates twitter? Should we call it iFlu?

by Black Francis on Oct 24, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

People with immune systems

that don’t adapt quickly

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 24, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

A flu that spread over twitter

that’d be amusing. Adam would then have just infected 100s of people by deciding to twitter LSB

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

young people also get trashed on a regular basis

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Oct 25, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that's interesting...

I just heard from some doctor on CNN that getting the regular flu vaccine without a doubt helps you be resistant to H1N1 “to a certain degree”. So if you can’t get the real deal definitely get the regular one asap until you can get the real deal.

Good help doesn't come cheap.

- Gil LeBreton

by BigGuns on Oct 25, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

He's wrong

They are different viruses. My mom’s primary doctor told her that but was refuted by one of her other doctors. I have a friend in Ohio and she heard something similar from the nurse, but now has the swine flu even though she had the seasonal vaccine. CDC’s website claims the seasonal flu vaccine doesn’t do anything but stop seasonal flu.

Either way good luck finding a seasonal shot now. They’re not even making it anymore.

by Black Francis on Oct 25, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure my girlfriend and I got it

…but 10 months out of college we still don’t have meaningful employment/health insurance so we couldn’t get tested. I’m pretty sure I had it though.

I’ve been sick for a week. I had over a 101 fever for 3 days which made my eyes hurt. I was (and still am) coughing a lot. My whole body ached. I was extremely tired. It felt like the flu, but about 3x worse. I never threw up though.

by Josh Lile on Oct 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I think calling it a national emergency is kind of silly.

The point in giving something national emergency status is so that you can funnel emergency funds into the problem. But what are they going to do here? It’s not like they can really ramp up production of the H1N1 vaccine at this point, that should have been done 6-9 months ago. Maybe this helps update the system in place that would deal with pandemic like diseases, but I doubt the government has that much foresight. At best, maybe the money goes to help deal with the increased burdens on the big hospitals (many of whom are setting up tents outside their emergency rooms just for H1N1).

We all realize it’s serious, so it’s not like it’s calling attention to something that’s flying under the radar. At the same time, while there are deaths being reported, it’s not like it’s so much more deadly than the regular flu that it needs to be treated like ebola.

Somewhat interesting side note: For my classmates in the clinics, if you get a confirmed H1N1 case, you have to spend 14 days at home. Which sounds great at first, but then you realize that means you have to repeat that rotation. So most people who get it wear the mask and don’t get tested for it. Ain’t health care grand?

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 26, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

I had it.

I started feeling a little off on Saturday 10/10. I thought I was getting a cold, since both my boys had coughs, but no fevers. Sunday, I woke up feeling OK, but I kept feeling worse and worse all day.

I went to the office on Monday, but left around 2PM for the Doctor. I had started feeling very achy, and my cough and stuffiness were horrible. I tested postive for Type A influenza, which the Dr said was a positive test for Swine since the seasonal flu wasn’t around, and I had already had a Flu Shot. When I was diagnosed, I had not yet had a fever. I was given Tamiflu, since I am asthmatic

My wife quarantined me to our room, and bought masks for everyone to wear around the house. I think I did get a fever on Monday afternoon, but that was it. I started feeling better on Tuesday, and worked from home that day.

Tuesday night, my 5 year old got home, and said he had thrown up at school. He also had a fever, and the wife started feeling bad as well. The baby showed no symptoms, other than a cough he had had for a week. Wife and 5 year old stayed home for the rest of the week.

We talked to the Pediatrician, and the director of the daycare, and they thought the baby could go to school. Baby went to school through Monday 10/19, but had to come home with a fever. He tested positive for Type A influenza as well. He stayed home all week last week.

My wife got hit the hardest, as she felt bad from Wednesday through Saturday. I felt Bad Sunday through Tuesday AM. I don’t think that the flu was all that bad.

Both Wife and I had coughs that lingered for almost 2 weeks, but other than the cough we felt fine in just a couple of days.

by cmfuld on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds pretty standard

The part that shocked me was how fast it comes on. I had the same thing happen. I was out at the grocery store and went down hill REALLY fast.

by Josh Lile on Oct 28, 2009 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

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