Taylor Teagarden heading to the AFL
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 25, 2009 11:29 AM CDT
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Richard Durrett writes that Taylor Teagarden is being sent by the Rangers to join the team's AFL contingent at Surprise.
I'd guess he'll be replacing catcher Doug Hogan, who the Rangers had included as part of their initial group.
But it leads one to wonder...is this just a concern that Teagarden didn't get enough at bats during the regular season while backing up Jarrod Saltalamacchia, and wanting to get him more time against live pitching in a game situation? Or could the Rangers be talking to a team that has an interest in Teagarden, and that wants to have a chance to scout him more this fall?
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Do you trade him though?
Can we role with a Salty/Pudge? I think yes to both.
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by NYTXFAN on Oct 25, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you can trade him
even if Salty is a league avg offensive and defensive catcher. You could sign Pudge, so he can ground into those important inning ending double plays.
We, also, have MaxRam, that would be nice to get healthy and give him a shot at our catcher position.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 25, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure if we do trade him
it’ll be a far cry from a Buccholz and Teagarden trade that we were talking about last winter
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by NothinG on Oct 25, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on...that was never a realistic trade.
by LiamP on Oct 25, 2009 12:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
either way TT
was in talks regarding Boston, but he was considered untouchable, from reports by the Rangers. Now I’m not saying TT would have ever gotten Buccholz (not by himself), but that last year we legitimately were talking trades like that. His value was at an all-time high. Now his value is very low in terms of trades, and if we do trade now, we either sell low, or sell based on a belief he won’t be better. The other situation is that we could up his value a bit and get a better return.
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by NothinG on Oct 25, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of that is conjecture
we have very little idea what either team really thought.
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by t ball on Oct 25, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Particularly in light of the fact...
…that they anointed Salty the starter last season from the get-go, and seemed to have little interest in Teagarden being anything other than a backup.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 25, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have never got rid of
gerald laird
2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015?
by hurlerhurley on Oct 25, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell no
better not trade TT
2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015?
by hurlerhurley on Oct 25, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I'm not so sure....
Everyone needs to realize that Salty just had a fairly significant surgery to his throwing arm. Will he even be ready to go in ST?
If we trade TT and Salty isn’t ready to go, then we get Pudge for the whole year (and we don’t even know if he’s going to re-sign here)
So, I’m betting that we just want him to get some extra AB’s.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 25, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is another reason why Salty is going to winterball to play with Feliz
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot he was going to winter ball, guess we'll see soon enough.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if Tea is traded and the Rangers think Salty can't start or isn't ready,
then I bet Pudge signs. He would have to figure that signing means a full time catching gig which he prob wants.
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by NYTXFAN on Oct 25, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, it would be awesome to have rib bones in your arm.
You’d be able to fly and shit.
by LiamP on Oct 25, 2009 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
WoW just WoW!
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by NYTXFAN on Oct 25, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll get Pudge for the whole year anyway
Ron Washington manages the team, remember?
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why isn't TT playing winter ball?
If ABs were a concern he would be playing this winter.
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by RangerMad on Oct 25, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Would lean heavily toward this as a scouting trip to AFL.
I really like the idea of Pudge and Teagarden replacing SalTea from my fanboy perspective, since Pudge has always been my favorite player and Teagarden is the one whose career path I most envy.
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by rooster on Oct 25, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teagarden's Career path?
You mean Chad Kreuter without the ability to draw walks at the plate?
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by DJCahill on Oct 26, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully they are shopping him.
I’d rather get a cheap veteran who can actually be a backup.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 25, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Situation isn’t very good anyway you look at it. Pudge is still good defensively but his offense has slipped considerably. Salty has improved significantly defensively, but has shown very little of his so-called offensive potential. His arm doesn’t appear to be in the same class as Pudge or Teagarden in terms of throwing out runners and he is coming off an army injury. Teagarden didn’t provide anything offensively this past season. Pudge is old, Salty can’t stay healthy and Teagarden is an automatic out.
by casew on Oct 25, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Salty started out last year very well throwing out runners
I don’t know what this arm injury will do to that but he was superior to Teagarden for most of last year in that department.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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According to this, Teagarden was worth 3.1 CS runs this year, and Salty was -0.5. Pretty large gap in that department.
Where Salty outperformed him was WP/PB runs: 1.6 to 0.9. In fact, that looks like one of the better marks among AL catchers in WP/PB runs.
Pudge, to save anyone who wonders the time of looking at the chart, was worth 1.4 CS runs and 0.1 WP/PB runs.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Oct 25, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure Saltys injury severaly hurt him in that stat
All I know is Salty started off the season throwing out his first 20 something guys who tried to steal or something like that. Im busy watching football but I remember at the beginning of the year he was throwing out everyone
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 25, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My issue with Salty
Can he stay healthy? If Salty would flash some of that offensive potential that was so hyped about when he was traded to the Rangers, this wouldn’t be an issue. Right now, if I am going to have to choose between two light hitting catchers, I would take Teagarden just because his body appears better structured to catch a lot of games. Now if Salty was hitting for average and had a much lower strikeout rate, then you get him in the games and rotate him between catcher, DH and occasionally first.
by casew on Oct 25, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know Teagardens injury history?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Salty is at DH or 1b
our offense is fucked.
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by tricer on Oct 26, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
Like I specified, if Salty was capable of being much, much more productive with the bat. I think you could find a role for him somewhere considering that he would then be a dangerous switch hitter. I do not believe that he is an everyday catcher and I don’t think Teagarden is because he is terrible offensively.
by casew on Oct 27, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good
To me he could use the pratice. I never really liked him a whole lot. But than again he didn’t do a whole lol of games
by sportsfan900 on Oct 25, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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