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On Rusty Greer as Hitting Coach

Richard Durrett has a blog post up that discusses the Rangers interviewing Rusty Greer for their vacant hitting coach position, and asks if we as Rangers fans want to see Greer become the hitting coach.

Greer has also been someone who has been talked about in the past by fans, when the Rangers' managerial job came open a few years back, and then when Ron Washington looked like he might be on the verge of getting fired early in 2008.  For some reason, he seems to be the go-to guy with fans for someone they want to see take over.  Similarly, in Houston, where I live, people regularly talk about Jeff Bagwell or Craig Biggio as the manager.

In any case...Durrett asks if we want to see Greer as hitting coach, and I, myself, don't have an opinion on the matter.  Much like with the various guys who were interviewed after Buck Showalter was fired after the 2006 season, I just don't know enough about Greer, or the other hitting coach candidates, to be able to gauge whether or not they'd be a good hire. 

So much of the job is about communication, about working with guys individually and developing trust and rapport, and I just don't see any way that someone on the outside can meaningfully judge whether, for example, Thad Bosley would be a better hire than Carney Lansford.  Unlike with, say, a player, whose performance is all on the field, or even a manager, who makes moves and non-moves during the game that you can evaluate (even though you may have incomplete information), with a hitting coach, there's no real good way for someone on the outside to tell who would be good for a team and who wouldn't. 

So I don't really have an opinion as whether Greer would be a good hitting coach or not.  But at the same time, I also feel like that folks who say that they want Greer on board don't really have enough information to judge whether or not he'd be a good coach, either.

The justification is basically, well, he was a good player who had a good approach at the plate and got the most out of his abilities (before his body started breaking down and injuries ended his career).  That's it.  None of the fans who want to see Rusty as a coach have any idea whether he can work with hitters on their mechanics, if he can communicate with them effectively about their approach, if he can translate being a good hitter into being a good coach. 

A lot of it, I tend to think, is just wishful thinking...folks who loved Greer as a player, who were disappointed his career ended prematurely, and who want to see him associated with the Rangers going forward.  They don't necessarily want him to be hired as the hitting coach because they have a basis for thinking he's the best choice and he'd be a good pick...they want him to be hired because they want him to be the best choice and they want him to be a good coach.

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to manage or play?

I would bet that if he DHed for us next year, his OPS+ would be better than any other alternative we’re thinking about.

by Agreen07 on Oct 28, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats what i meant

still hed be more useful as a player or strength/cond coach haha

by Agreen07 on Oct 28, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it would be funny if other teams started following suite.

The Rangers could hire Palmeiro as hitting coach,
The Giants could hire Bonds as theirs,
The Astros could hire Clemens as their pitching coach,
and in a surprise move the A’s could even hire Canseco as their new hitting coach.

by MikeEl on Oct 28, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still find it weird that

you don’t live in DFW metroplex. With internet and tv, this world really is getting smaller….

by Agreen07 on Oct 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this completely.

Honestly, I don’t know enough about these guys to make a judgment.

"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron

by coolaid on Oct 28, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just waiting

For Sharky to jump down your throat for being so neutral.

I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.

by TheBZA on Oct 28, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Since Rusty did nothing to earn his last contract as a player

maybe he’ll offer to coach for free. That would make him an ideal candidate with our current financial situation.

by twinkilling on Oct 28, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Like I said yesterday

I don’t really want to see another figurehead on this team, but Greer, based on his numbers as a player anyway, does look like a guy who could bring the right message to this lineup.

Then again, Joe Morgan had a career .392 OBP and 16.7 BB rate, and he’s a fucking idiot.

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN

by lonestarJon on Oct 28, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

Also some of the best hitting coaches are guys that never even made it to the majors, (ie Rudy).

by MikeEl on Oct 28, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

has Greer ever been a hitting coach

at any level before? I don’t know his credentials

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 30, 2009 7:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs


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