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Friday morning Rangers things

A couple of things from last night's World Series game...

First of all...the umpiring, and the continuing missed calls, is the story from this playoffs.  There were two huge missed calls last night that ended what could have been big innings by each of the teams, and then Ryan Howard being called out on strikes in the 9th on an Eric Greggian call on a ball way outside...the groundswell of support for replay, and the move towards removing ball and strike calls from the purview of the human umpire, is simply going to increase.

And secondly, even though Derek Jeter bunted on his own with two strikes last night, Joe Girardi's continuing hands-on over-managing is reminiscent of Buck Showalter.  It is as if he doesn't trust the players to win the game, or else he feels he has to show everyone how much smarter than everyone else he is.

Anyway...Jeff Wilson writes that the Rangers want a hitting coach who can, and wants to, work with young players, and who can help the team fix an approach that resulted in a ton of strikeouts and not many walks last year.  The finalists for the job are Rusty Greer, Thad Bosley, Clint Hurdle, and Gerald Perry.

Rush Olson has a story up at mlb.com about Mitch Moreland.

Richard Durrett looks at the closer spot for the Rangers, and the Rangers managerial situation.

And Kevin Richardson has signed a minor league contract with the Rangers for 2010.

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Why isn't Scott Coolbaugh

in the list of finalists?

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Oct 30, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they think

he is in the Rudy mode? I’m just speculating, but I assume most minor league hitting instructors followed Rudy’s lead.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Perhaps the No. 1 trait the new hitting coach for the Texas Rangers must have is a desire to teach a group of mostly inexperienced players how to be successful in the major leagues.

So…..did Rudy not ever work with the youngsters? Was that a knock against him?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Oct 30, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No Rudy worked with young guys

This is just pointing out that over the next couple years the majority of players on the Rangers offensively will be young guys so whoever gets the job is going to have understand that and have a desire to work with them.

If someone was interested in this job but didn’t want to work with young players they wouldn’t be a good fit.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Oct 30, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are there any coaches who don't want to work with young guys?

Seems like it would be part of the jobs description of every coach. These guys are teachers. It’s much easier to teach a young player than an older player who is set in their ways.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 30, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think some coaches would prefer veterans to rookies

Rookies is so much more mental work than physical. If a young guy gets in a slump its mostly mental as to how to break it. Davis said when he went down it gave him a chance to clear his head. Rudy said the same before he went down. Sure there were some mechanical things he changed and could have changed but its mostly mental. These guys have faced little to no adversity in their careers so far. They were probably highly drafted and most likely moved pretty quick through a system having success at every level. When they do face adversity on the major league level its not only hurting them and their stats but the team as well which can weigh heavily on some young guys.

Veterans have been through the grind alot more and so its more likely a mechanical adjustment that will fix them. Rudy seemed like the type of guy that could fix those things but wasn’t great dealing with the mental aspect of the game.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Oct 30, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

Do you think that Rudy couldn’t get through to Davis and get him out of his mental funk because he can’t coach young guys? Personally, I think the reason he got out of his slump in the minors was because by going back to AAA he took all the pressure off. Regardless of who the MLB coach was, the fact that he was in the majors was putting tons of pressure on him.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I don't think it was solely because Rudy can't coach young guys

I think most of it was simply Davis putting too much pressure on himself. Just like you say going to AAA took all the pressure off and he was able to thrive. The mechanical things that he was being told got through to him. Who knows if what he was being told in AAA was any different than what Rudy was telling him up here.

I don’t see a veteran being that difficult to deal with which is why I think alot of coaches probably prefer them and why we need someone who has a desire to coach young guys as our hitting coach.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Oct 30, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is that Rudy wasn't too happy to do that

He probably worked with them some, but based off some of the personnel recommendations he’s made, he seems to favor the veterans with a track record no matter how bad they are now.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 30, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are Rusty Greer's credentials

other than he was a former Ranger.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 30, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's about it.

I know he coached a team in the Southwest Collegiate League ( a wood bat summer league in North Texas)

That’s all I got.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Oct 30, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was a pretty good hitter

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Oct 30, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So was Ted Williams

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Oct 30, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So was Albert Belle

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Let’s bring in Manny to be our hitting coach. That would be a player-coach, of course.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 30, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing they like what he tells them about his approach to hitting and communicating that approach to younger guys

And the instant cache as a beloved ex-Ranger couldn’t hurt with some of the guys like Davis and Teagarden who watched him when they were kids.

"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Oct 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would bring back memories, to be sure.

With Pudge possibly sticking around, I’d bring back Wetteland as a bullpen coach and call it a day.

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't there a blurb somewhere

about Pudge maybe not being here now that Rudy isn’t going to be here?

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ripple effect

of Rudy’s departure — I think we’re just beginning to feel it.

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you think about it

if there is a high OBP push, there has to be some player changes and not just coach changes. Pudge really doesn’t bring much, other than nostalgia/marketing, and I’m not really sure how many butts in seats he brings anymore.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Player changes

how are we going to bring a guy like Bradley on board, to fix the OBP, when we are considering Rusty Greer as a mentor for young hitters?

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I have no idea about how Rusty is as a hitting coach. As a player, he was a fairly patient hitter, with a career OBP near 400

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

I’m just saying that it looks harder to bring in a guy like Bradley when you’re going with a youth movement and don’t want people to adopt some of his characteristics, while at the same time, trying to adopt some of his results. I don’t know, I’d prefer Bradley be back myself, with a coach who can let him be.

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is nothing wrong with Bradley's approach

And, a new hitting coach isn’t going to solely work with the young guys. You always need to have veterans around. And for most veterans, a hitting coach really shouldn’t matter too much.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 30, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh, exactly.
And for most veterans, a hitting coach really shouldn’t matter too much.

It follows that a veteran, such as a Milton Bradley, could undermine the new hitting coach because his talents allow him to do so. When you’re trying to get a bunch of young guys to trust and emulate the hitting coach, Bradley doesn’t exactly foster that. Jim Thome?

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The new coach is probably going to be on the same page as Wash

And if Bradley listens to Wash, he’s going to at least not undermine what a hitting coach says.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Wash pretty much laid down for Bradley.

So I don’t know if Bradley would listen to him, either.

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, laying down for Bradley

Which got him to put up a 163 OPS+ in 509 PAs. If laying down for Bradley gets that kind of production from him, then its the right call.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 30, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not an advocate of bringing MB back

But if he was here, I wouldn’t worry about his plate approach undermining the hitting coach or affecting the young players ability to be coached. I would, however, worry about his effect on the young player from a behavior standpoint. I know he was the perfect team mate the last time he was here, but that is because he was hitting well. If he plays the same as hid did in Chicago, you can bet his behavior will the same, too.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 30, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagree.

Just don’t expect anything but boneheaded influence from Wash / coaches.

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x

I’d say Wash not only laid down for Bradley I say he spread his legs also.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Oct 30, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

No more Sosa’s

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 30, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Wetteland already coach for Seattle or something?

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN

by lonestarJon on Oct 30, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been coaching

over at Texas Weslyan the past couple of years

by JShoe on Oct 30, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gritty

I remember Rusty Greer as being really “clutch” when they needed him to be. I always felt good when he was up to bat and the game was on the line. Granted he did not always deliver but he did a bunch. If he could teach that…WOW!

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Oct 30, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember him

laying over and choking like a dog in the playoffs.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess...

Bosley is the favorite followed closely by Perry. Greer is slightly ahead of Hurdle. Both Bosley and Perry were coaches in Oakland when Wash was there. I expect Ron to back one of them.

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Oct 30, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ron's picks for his staff

Seems like his choices are mostly ignored.

Favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen on a VW bus:
"Gas, Grass, or Ass. Nobody rides for free"

by tricer on Oct 30, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh. Heh heh.

You said “erect”.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 30, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they're ignored

The Rangers aren’t ready to let him pick whoever he wants but getting along with Wash has to be one of the things they’re looking for in their coaches. They aren’t going to bring someone in who will fight with Wash or go against his own philosophies.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 30, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, they did fire Walbeck because Wash didn't like him

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN

by lonestarJon on Oct 30, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walbeck

I was at a Rangers game last September and these two girls were trying to hook up with Matt Walbeck. They wrote their names and phone numbers on a baseball to pass to Walbeck. They were very drunk, and it was very amusing.

by cstorm15 on Oct 30, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Series

I really find Tim McCarver insufferable. He comes off as a pompous ass. Last night in the top of the eighth he kept talking over and over about how Rollins and Victorino needed to try a double steal or run, and when the count went to 3-2 on Utley he said something like “there’s no way Manual doesn’t send them here”. They didn’t run, which is a completely defensible move IMO since you got Utley at the plate and Howard coming up, but Utley grounds into a double play. OK, fine, McCarver was correct, in that case if the hit and run had been on the double play would have been avoided, but I knew that we were in for 5 minutes of “I told you so” after the commercial break. Sure enough…

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Oct 30, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Tim McCarver

more than any announcer ever. I’d rather sit through a week of Joe Morgan games than one Tim McCarver game (it helps that Jon Miller >> Joe Buck). I heard that “they have to double steal here” comment, thinking “there is no way that they run with Utley and Howard up”.

My wife, who I’m just getting to like baseball, instantly recognized that McCarver and Morgan were morons. I’m very proud.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Oct 30, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x

A partner in my office came in here after the ALCS and was talking about how much he hated McCarver and how stupid he thinks he is. Just to give you some perspective, he then said, “I’d much rather them put someone good on there, like Joe Morgan.”

by FuturePants on Oct 30, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You like Jon Miller?

He drives me crazy. He tries to add color to the game but his facts are:

a) usually wrong; and
b) not interesting anyway

by JShoe on Oct 30, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Jon Miller too

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Oct 30, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I’ll listen to Giants games on the radio just for him.

It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.

by WyoRanger on Oct 30, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Miller drives me nuts when he works with Morgan

He comes off as an idiot due to playing straight man for Morgan.

by twinkilling on Oct 30, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

you can tell Miller doesn’t much like Morgan

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Oct 30, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

People say that

but I never noticed it.

I like Jon Miller. He has a very good play caller voice.

by Hubris on Oct 30, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Miller is my favorite.

He just sounds like baseball.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 30, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm withcha

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by Parman on Oct 30, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

Wash is an idiot!!

by bspate on Oct 31, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a very encouraging story about Moreland.

Keep stackin em deep at first until we can find THE ONE. Now if we can just find that CF…

by jam0152 on Oct 30, 2009 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

who's to say we haven't already found that CF

in Borbon?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 30, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Oct 30, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure

why he would.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Oct 30, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good pitching thus far in the WS.

Cliff Lee Game Score 83 in the first game.

AJ Burnett Game Score 74 in the second game.

I still think the Phillies look like the Alpha Male is this series. They made Rivera look fairly human and if Werth’s line drive squirts thru, that’s a much different 9th inning.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Oct 30, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree....

……..I’ve seen 6 or 7 Phillies games this postseason, and all of the Yankees games- Phillies appear slightly better to me.

by Hard8 on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thought you would like this Josey...
Hey Bill, I keep having a debate with a friend of mine about the validity of Game Scores. Can you give an explanation to me on why Game Scores should not be used as a predictive measure for individual success?
Asked by: Anonymous
Answered: October 15, 2009

Not sure what you’re really asking. Game Scores measure performance in one start. The extent to which one start predicts the next start is very limited. The extent to which a series of several starts predicts the next start is fairly limited. I would assume that most people know that?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figure I might as well ask him. I have had an account there since it

first started.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Oct 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

A Game Score measures performance in one start.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Oct 30, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then why do you keep trying to use it as a large scale predictor of success?

it is just a nice stat to have around, but it is not a predictor of future success. If you have a problem with that, then fault Bill James.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Oct 30, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When have I used it as a large scale predictor of success?

When a pitcher throws down a Game Score of 50+ his team has a much better chance of winning than when he doesn’t.. I don’t know about 2009 but from 2007-2008 when a Ranger starter did that the team won somewhere between 72-75% of their games.

Don’t know but I’d guess pitchers who throw down 60-69 Game Scores give their teams somewhere around an 80%-85% chance of winning.

Sounds like you have been wanting to play this card for a while. Get your shit together next time.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Oct 30, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually that is the entire point

a players GS from one game has no predictive value on a future outcome. Therefore tracking team success rates based upon specific scores means nothing.

So needless to say, get you shit together next time. If you don’t like talk to Bill James, but I am pretty sure he doesn’t give a rats ass about your miss guided attempts at twisting one of his own metrics for predictive values.

Don’t try to delve into a field you have no knowledge into and try to pass it on as you have a clue to what you are doing.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Oct 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look

you fucking idiot…

The quality of a pitcher’s start makes a huge difference in determining whether or not their team will win on a certain night.

A team who has a starting pitcher with a Game Score of 69 has a much better chance to win than the team who has a starting pitcher who has a Game Score of 17.

How are you fucking that up, Einstein?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Oct 30, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't get to see much of last night's game

but I did see a couple of Ryan Howard ABs. It looked like the umpire had a pretty wide outside corner in those at bats. Was he consistent last night?

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Oct 30, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: Cowboys

Somebody asked Belichick if DeMarcus Ware is worth that much money. He responded by comparing him to Lawrence Taylor. So…..I’m guessing yes?

BeWare D-Ware

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 30, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

www.bloggingtheboys.com

i think is probably the one you want.

by jam0152 on Oct 30, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

I thought we talked about football during the offseason, or sometimes even during the season, here. I. Guess. Not.

I’ll just go ahead and say the thing out loud that we all already know…BTB has some of the best Cowboys coverage around, but most of their posters suck. I posted there a lot for a bit, but I just can’t take it. In my opinion, it’s harder to do good football analysis than good baseball analysis because you have to have so much previous knowledge of schemes and have to watch so much football to really know the league. From the “first” game to “I predict Romo will throw for 500 yards this week” type bs, I just can’t take it.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 30, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think most football analysis

is a waste of time because pretty much everything other than career stats is SSS.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Oct 30, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sort of.

Most football stats are a waste of time because of the small sample size. Analysis is different. Obviously, it would be better if you had better stats to supplement what the scouts are looking at, but I think there are too many moving parts for most statistical analysis. Still, scouting still remains a viable way in general to tell who’s good and who’s bad or who’s playing well. And that’s why Rafael over at BTB is so good, he comes at it with a semi-scout’s approach. It’s also why I liked the work that Bob Sturm was doing in breaking down the games…though he was more identifying plays/formations that worked and didn’t and couldn’t always dissect why.

As an aside,what makes Football Outsiders so promising is that they look at individual plays for their stats and assign success/failure to it based on down and distance. It’s a much better system than looking at QB ratings per game or the equivalent for other positions.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 30, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it bad...

that I really don’t care who becomes the hitting coach? I know I should, the offense was a huge area of disappointment this season. I just don’t know how any of those 4 guys would impact the offense. I think it would be silly of me to speculate or want a particular guy.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Oct 30, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not bad

That’s just reasonable.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Oct 30, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto - and it's a tiny bit odd

It seems like fans can and do have an opinion regarding pitching coaches. But hitting coaches? Meh. Not sure what that is.

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by WyoRanger on Oct 30, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that i know enough about him

but how did carney lansford not make it to the finalists role? doesn’t he have the most credentials out of the possible candidates?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Oct 30, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and the mustache

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Oct 30, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agreed on Girardi's overmanaging.

Keith Law and Joe Posnanski have provided tremendously funny commentary to all the games on Twitter, most of which is just ripping Girardi over and over. Great stuff.

(You can follow them @keithlaw and @jposnanski, respectively)

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by ghtd36 on Oct 30, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you check out @lonestarball on Twitter...

…Victor Rojas had a response last night when I tweeted about the Buck/Girardi similarities. Glad to know I’m not the only one.

by Adam J. Morris on Oct 30, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder how the umps feel

about those strike zone boxes on the screen.

by SteveP on Oct 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Some parenting advice .. from Pedro!
• “I remember one guy sitting right in the front row … with his daughter in one arm and a cup of beer in the other hand and saying all kinds of nasty stuff. I just told him, ‘Your daughter is right beside you. It’s a little girl. It’s a shame you’re saying all these things.’ I had to stop and tell him because I’m a father myself, and God, how can you be so dumb to do those kind of things in front of your child? What kind of example are you setting?”

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Oct 30, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what he tells his kids about the elderly.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Oct 30, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That you should

knock them on their fat, old, asses.

by Flynnyrd on Oct 30, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choke-slams are okay?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Oct 30, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When they charge at you with a violent look on their face, they are

I know Pedro gets a lot of flack for that, but I think that was one of those read-and-react situations. He sees a guy coming out of the dugout directly at him, it’s already a hostile situation, what’s he supposed to do? He probably didn’t have time in the heat of the moment to consider who it was coming after him, just that somebody was.

"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Oct 30, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My comment was kinda building on Flynnyrd's comment, not questioning it...

I really don’t care either way to be honest.

I kinda thought it was funny, but in a “Damn I can’t believe he did that” kinda way.

But you are right, it was a total “fight or flight” situation.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Oct 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and old man was charging

leading with his humongous melon. that was the only natural result

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I didn't intend that as a response to your questioning Flynnyrd

I was just adding to the discussion those thoughts, because my dad and I were having this conversation last night after they showed the clip.

"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Oct 30, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smarter than the rest
or else he feels he has to show everyone how much smarter than everyone else he is.

Kettle, meet pot.

by Back Door Yakker on Oct 30, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's interesting that many here seem to want to find fault with Rudy's coaching

but overlook the fact that Bosley, Perry and Hurdle are all guys that were fired as hitting coaches. Apparently, someone also found fault with their coaching in the past. Is changing hitting coaches really going to be “the difference”?

by twinkilling on Oct 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They were all fired for coaching too much patience

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 30, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd imagine

That most coaches who have been in the game for any length of time have been let go at least once.

Joe Torre’s been fired before. So have Tony LaRussa, Terry Francona, and both managers in this year’s World Series. It happens for a lot of different reasons; sometimes, there’s just a change in philosophy, and what fit before doesn’t now. It doesn’t mean those people are forever worthless going forward.

"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."

- Wails

by RCCook on Oct 30, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true. Most managers and coaches are recycled again and again

which begs the question, does it really change anything to rotate coaches? I can’t imagine that any hitting coach isn’t teaching plate discipline and on-base skills. Hard to imagine any major league hitting coach teaching hitters to swing from their asses on anything they can see and to ignore game situations and not be concerned with putting th ball in play.

by twinkilling on Oct 30, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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