Saturday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 31, 2009 9:48 AM CDT
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Nothing out there this morning.
Talk amongst yourselves.
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Haha...
do the Cubs really need another bad contract in their OF?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 31, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well the article suggests
…they’re thinking about trading Bradley for Wells. I thought Wells was a free agent this year, though?
by Black Francis on Oct 31, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells
He’s 2 years into a 7 year, $126 million deal.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 31, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
is that the worst deal in baseball right now or what? GMJ and his 2 yrs left at 23M is another
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells and Soriano
Probably the two worst right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 31, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano
hit 40/40 at the perfect time.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be funny
if Wells and Soriano ended up on the same team. That would be great for Cubs fans to continue to wallow in self pity.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as bad, and untradeable as this contract is
Young’s value ‘based on fangraphs’ has always exceeded what his salary is. This year was the same. We’ll see how it turns out over the next couple of years, but considering what Young has done with the Rangers, a couple years paying him more than his value would not be a big deal. If MY has another year like last year, though, the contract could actually be fair, based on “perceived” values of course.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
we have MY’s contract for 4 more years through 2013. The last couple years of the contract are going to be bad. We have alot of young, affordable talent on this team, and what looks like a continued flow of talent that should come over the next few years that should keep our payroll reasonable, even if we do add a couple more high dollar FAs. We have the money to spend, and I don’t think MY’s contract should weigh us down considering how low we are on the salary spectrum right now. I would like to see our payroll in the upper 80’s. That most likely won’t happen.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No where close
As bad as his contract is, his 2009 and likely decline from this point forward don’t make him that horribly overpaid over the next few years. Soriano, Wells, and GMJ are playing like below replacement level players while getting many more millions than a replacement player should get. Jose Guillen probably also deserves to be in that group.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 31, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
30 bad deals
MY makes honorable mention.
the top 5
•Vernon Wells, Blue Jays – five years, $98.5MM
•Alfonso Soriano, Cubs – five years, $90MM
•Barry Zito, Giants – four years, $83MM
•Alex Rios, White Sox – five years, $59.7MM
•Travis Hafner, Indians – three years, $40.25MM
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Oct 31, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm remembering
how many people on this sight were advocating that we sign Pat Burrell. Good non-sign.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Oct 31, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i would have liked Burrell
he was good before Tampa. Who would have projected that?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He dealt with a neck injury for most of the year that had him jacked up
Don’t bet against a bounce back year
by tyd3311 on Oct 31, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about
out of the frying pan, into the fire.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 31, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
slow morning
Tim Smith Royals #18 prospect. See fanshot.
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Oct 31, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where would he have ranked in ours? Not top 20, I wouldn't think
"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 31, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
case anyone gives a shit
I do!
http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2009/10/30/insidecorner-r-i-p/#comments
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Oct 31, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uh, yeah.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/10/30/1107889/inside-corner-is-no-longer
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 31, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know its still a bit early
but I’m just trying to figure out what I think we are going to do in FA this year.
It really seems like its all based on what the Rangers think of Borbon. If they think he’s a ready or nearly ready CF then we probably go get a 1b/DH type, think Thome/Johnson/Glaus, or if hes not we go back with some thing like Byrd or Cameron, which wouldn’t leave the ABs to want to pick up a full time 1b/DH unless you assume that both Davis and Smoak won’t be getting any time with the MLB team this year.
As far as pitchers go, I wouldn’t mind seeing Lackey in here, but I think that its more likely we add a couple of BP arms and call it a day.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 31, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like a DH and
a 1 year pickup at CF, and a starter.
I’ll be upset if we waste money and draft picks on bullpen arms.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 31, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. DH is highest priority. I think the starter will have to come from a trade.
Just say no to FA bullpen arms and BOTR guys, ie “veterans”.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
by rooster on Oct 31, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mostly agree
but I’d like to see Grabow in here on a one or two year deal. They need someone to compliment Ceej.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Oct 31, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, me too.
That’s the only bullpen arm I think I would target though. Also depending on what they do with Feliz we might need to add another power righty type of guy. If worse came to worst though, I think both of those spots could be filled internally with guys like Harrison/Nippert but the thought of that doesn’t get me very excited.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
by txhc on Oct 31, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strop could also be the power arm guy
Scheppers will probably get a look at the role late in the year, much like Feliz this year
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True if Strop can get his command down.
His mechanics, particularly the way he snaps his arm scares the hell out of me.
You really think Scheppers will move that quickly though? I mean if he’s as good as advertised (and I think he is, talent was never the issue with him) then maybe he’d be an option at some point next season. I just can’t wait for this world series that I could care less about to get over with so we can get on with the off-season, that’s all I know. Lots of questions to be answered.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
by txhc on Oct 31, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think the difference in Borbon and Morgan
is pretty insignificant compared to the prospect you’d have to give up to get Morgan.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 31, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you're gonna trade for Nyjer Morgan
I’d be assuming that it’s because you consider him your long-term solution in CF, and plan to trade Borbon.
Which I could probably get behind, because Morgan is about the same player as Borbon offensively, but with excellent UZR #’s and an apparent canoon for an arm (best OF arm in the majors this year by Fangraphs Outield Arm Runs Above Average metric).
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN
by lonestarJon on Oct 31, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being really good at catching/throwing >> hitting lefties
And Borbon ain’t exactly Jayson Werth when it comes to hitting lefties.
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN
by lonestarJon on Oct 31, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't make that trade-off
Unless you are that worried about sticking Borbon in CF in the short run. Morgan is turning 30 next July. You’re not trading for some star on the rise with Morgan. You’re trading for a pretty risky player based mostly on what he has done in 120 games this past season. Defense like everything else will regress over the long run. With Morgan, I do think its reasonable to see a drop in his UZR next season given how high it was this season. Over a full season, you just don’t see many UZRs of near 30 runs.
As for offense, bringing him to the AL could be a mistake. Like Borbon, Morgan is a guy who you hope to get a .300 BA from with enough SBs to make up for the lack of power and average walk rates. The difference between the two though is that Borbon as a 22 year old rookie already looks like he’s going to give you much more power than Morgan will.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Oct 31, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clint Hurdle will never be the Rangers hitting coach.
He’s JDs guy, and Nolan isn’t gonna let JD kill the franchise just as it’s getting good.
I mean, Nolan loves Hurdle, who hit Ryan really well, and JD better not eff this up.
That’s the best impersonation I can do in one minute on a Saturday morning. I can’t really choose on merit, so I would say that I would like the Rangers to hire Clint Hurdle, because I like his name. Rusty has a good name, but I’d hate to see my happy memories of Rusty get tarnished should the offense underperform.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
by rooster on Oct 31, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thad Bosley
wins my name game.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Oct 31, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everywhere I go, bitches wanna know......
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by NYTXFAN on Oct 31, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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