Josey, Hank and Davis, Part II
The second FanPost where the ongoing pissing matches with Josey about the Great Hank Blalock War of 2009, and whether Hank was jacked around or Chris Davis sucked and all the rest of the things that cause threads to devolve into the same argument over and over again with Josey, are to be held.
All arguments with Josey about Davis and Blalock in other threads will be deleted.
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You lost
STFU
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by Parman on Oct 6, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Josey
really shit the bed in the last one.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 6, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't this
really be the Josey, JD and Nolan thread? Seems like Josey has moved on from Blalock and Davis.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Oct 6, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget Nelson Cruz
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 6, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why rec this?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 6, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because the last one was hilarious...
it’s officially the off-season.
I say JW-baiting is now in season.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 6, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam was right about this thread on so many levels (including it's popularity). Good work.
Just so it doesn’t get buried or forgotten…Fuck Brett Gardner is appalled by me on several levels (drove him apeshit when ajm said I was a “gifted writer”) and apparently wants a reading list of books I’ve consumed so he’ll have something else unrelated to the Great Game to throw at me when he needs his ass kicked once again in an argument.
FBG loves the faux intelligencia personna but the little secret of LSB is that he’s completely clueless about all things Great Game.
I told him I’d make a deal with him and this was my post in Part I.
“Come up with 10 good posts related to the Great Game before New Year’s Day and I’ll let you know what books I’ve read and enjoyed.
I don’t need anything groundbreaking or terribly original because I wouldn’t expect a student in first grade to know how to split an atom but it is the off-season so it’s not going to be the easiest of assignments.
There you go. Substantiate your existence on LSB with 10 good takes related to the Great Game before New Year’s Day anywhere on the board and I’ll grant you your wish."
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're a shitty writer.
And you can’t spell intelligentsia.
by JDT217 on Oct 6, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh...
…and I’ll grant you your wish.
JW’s a fuckin’ genie now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 6, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I wonder
what you’d be like if you didn’t spend all of your time and energy on self-aggrandizement.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 6, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me of the dance off in Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 6, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Growing up,
you must have had your ass kicked ALL the time.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Oct 6, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
I love how obsessed with me you are.
by brettgardner on Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
You’re the one with a shovel following me.
If you left or posted less, I wouldn’t care one way or another.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You made a callback to a buried thread
Because you wanted to stir something up. It’s pretty pathetic, really, especially for an old guy like yourself.
by brettgardner on Oct 6, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you really don't know anything about the Great Game compared to others yet
continue to post.
Interesting.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you really don't know anything about the Great Game compared to others yet
continue to post.
Interesting.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
I love that you think this bothers me.
by brettgardner on Oct 6, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Since you’re clearly unfamiliar with what a publication list is, it’s a list of what you’ve written, not what you’ve read.
by brettgardner on Oct 6, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post-ASB numbers
Chris Davis: .834 OPS
Hank Blalock: .585 OPS
Talk amongst yourselves.
I like steak.
by Conjunction on Oct 6, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Clearly someone shit the bed...
had the pacifier in place, and the training wheels firmly attached.
That’s a pretty bad choke job down the stretch when the Rangers offense needed him the most to catch the Halos.
I say the Rangers should cut ties with one of those guys.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 6, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Season numbers
Even with his Davis drowning this season, he and Blalock still ended up with similar 2009 stats.
Chris Davis
.238/.284/.442/.726
Hank Blalock
.234/.277/.459/.736
"Elvis Andrus has just preformed a MIRACLE!"
-Eric Nadel, 5/4/09
by Mizzou12 on Oct 6, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be so glad
to see Blalock gone. He has worn me out for half a decade. Not having a good year since 2004 Even though he is the same age as Cruz and Hamilton, and only a year older than Kinsler, I’m tired of waiting for him to put in a good year.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 6, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
The only reason I watched on Sunday was to say goodbye to his sorry ass.
by Black Francis on Oct 6, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to believe he's still so young
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Oct 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
too bad he’s gonna end up as another Brad Wilkerson
by chrisR on Oct 13, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok that was mean
I take it back. But he’s really disappointed me.
by chrisR on Oct 13, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Newberg report this morning
Gut wrenching, but very well written and an excellent summation of what Hank was expected to be and what he actually became. For those that don’t subscribe:
I caught most of Game One between the Twins and Yankees on Wednesday night, pitting AL MVP-to-be Joe Mauer against Mark Teixeira, who could be his runner-up. Naturally, it tripped a swarm of Rangers-centric thoughts, primarily one that converges with a relatively quiet story that was never supposed to be.
A couple months ago I was talking to a friend at work about Mauer’s season, suggesting that he’s the hitter – or at least was coming into 2009 – that Hank Blalock was supposed to become. Mauer entered the season as a lifetime .317/.399/.457 hitter, with more walks than strikeouts, averaging about a dozen home runs and 34 doubles for every 150 games. This year, his age 26 season, he exploded with a .365/.444/.587 slash line, with 28 homers and another season with more walks than strikeouts.
Three weeks after Minnesota made Mauer the first pick in the 2001 draft, Blalock hit for the cycle twice in three days for AA Tulsa, in the middle of a breakout season at age 20 (.380/.437/.557 for High A Charlotte, .327/.413/.544 for Tulsa, then .344/.431/.713 with 11 home runs and 36 RBI in just 122 Arizona Fall League at-bats – equaling the high home run mark ever put up in what was then a 10-year-old league, and obliterating the league slug record) that led everyone from Baseball America to Baseball Prospectus to John Sickels to call him the number one position player prospect in all of baseball.
Texas had finished in last place in the West in 2000 and 2001 – 20.5 and 43 games back – but Blalock was on the doorstep, just about ready to bring his pure hit tool, his bat speed, his extra-base power to all fields, and his exquisite plate discipline to Arlington to inject some much-needed youth into the Alex Rodriguez-led Rangers lineup. He was going to be at the forefront of the Rangers’ resurgence, its return to perennial American League contender status . . . .
. . . along with Teixeira, who was chosen four spots after Mauer in that 2001 draft. Both Blalock and Teixeira were third basemen, but Texas would figure out a way to get both to the big leagues when they were ready. Blalock was going to camp in 2002 with a chance to win a big league job (which he did), while Teixeira would start his pro career in 2002, the only minor league season he would need.
Blalock and Teixeira were Holland and Feliz, times 10.
Before that 2002 season, former Astros scouting director and Baseball America national writer David Rawnsley wrote a foreword for the Newberg Report Bound Edition that included this:
There is enough material on individual Ranger minor leaguers on the following pages to fill a book (hey, it did fill a book, Jamey!), but I do feel compelled to make a comment on one prospect: Hank Blalock.
I’ve seen Blalock play frequently over the years, starting when he was a junior in high school. I, like every other talent evaluator in the baseball business, have just as frequently underestimated Blalock’s ability. Now Blalock is one of the best prospects in the game, and I saw something this fall that I’ve never seen in a prospect before.
Serious sports fans have often marveled at how some of the great athletes of our times seem to see the game in slow motion and are able to react earlier and more quickly to developing situations. Joe Montana, Magic Johnson, and Wayne Gretzky are the three athletes who come immediately to mind. All three were perceived as somewhat average physical talents who overachieved because of their incredible understanding of the game they played.
Until I saw Blalock in the Arizona Fall League, I can never remember thinking about a baseball prospect along those lines; here was a hitter who saw the ball so clearly, so early out of the pitcher’s hand, and so understood what the ball was going to do, that he was at a distinct advantage over his fellow competitors. I sat in the warm Arizona desert air and tingled at the revelation. Sure, Barry Bonds gives this impression and I know George Brett probably did, too. But this was 21-year-old Hank Blalock. It was exciting to watch that night and it should be even more exciting for Rangers fans in the future.
Baseball Prospectus that same off-season: "Blalock is the best hitting prospect in the game, and there’s not anybody particularly close."
Sickels: "Blalock is my favorite prospect. . . . I saw him play three games for AA Tulsa, and in those contests he saw a total of 44 pitches. Not once did he swing at a pitch that wasn’t a strike. . . . If he isn’t a Grade A prospect, I don’t know who is."
As Blalock’s Rangers career has almost certainly come to a quiet end, re-reading those four Rawnsley paragraphs, and the BP and Sickels comments, is painful. The things that they wrote sound to me, today, like Mauer. Not anything like what Blalock became.
It’s almost hard to believe that Blalock hasn’t even turned 29. The prime of his career should be now. Instead, his peak, amazingly, was at age 22, when he hit .300/.350/.522 in 2003, his first full big league season – a year in which his decline in production actually began after his famed All-Star Game home run (he hit .323/.375/.524 before the Break, .272/.319/.520 after it). Injuries and a transformed approach as a hitter have changed his career into something unfathomable eight years ago, and six.
The player who amassed more bases on balls (153) than strikeouts (148) in his only three seasons fully on the farm went an impossible 136 plate appearances this summer without drawing a walk (and not because he was raking: he hit .200/.199/.363 in that span). While Mauer (.444) led the big leagues in reaching base this season, Blalock’s mark (.277) was second-worst in the game. Not only was his 2009 strikeout rate his worst since his rookie season, his walk rate was also the worst of his career. So was his line drive percentage. An advanced ability to go with the pitch early in his career has given way to a tendency to roll outside corner pitches to second base, and to swing for the porch on balls in and out of the zone.
He went hitless in his final 19 plate appearances of the season, probably his final 19 as a Ranger.
Blalock is certainly not to blame for Texas missing the playoffs this year, or any other. But while his arrival in the big leagues was supposed to help usher in a new Rangers era, instead his eight-year tenure here has encompassed an era of its own, a period in which the club never played past 162.
The young blue-chipper in whom Rawnsley "saw something . . . that [he’d] never seen in a prospect before" has had just as extraordinary transformation the last six years, but in the wrong direction. Blalock’s playing days are not over, and he’s made about $22 million in the game, but sadly the highlight of his career is an All-Star Game home run that, if you look carefully at the numbers, would, coincidentally or not, prove to mark the turning point in his productivity, if not his approach.
It saddens me to consider that the Rangers’ playoff history ended the year that Blalock was drafted in the third round and, many believe, is getting close to returning, just as Blalock will almost surely depart.
It was supposed to be so, so different.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Oct 8, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know man...
…tears are swimming in my coffee.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All kidding aside
I damn near cried reading that.
Then I looked at Justin Smoak and said ‘…Not you, Justin… don’t let this be you…’
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Oct 8, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, that was hard to read.
I’m going to be pissed if it was Rudy that did it to him, and he goes somewhere else this offseason, gets with another hitting coach and starts kicking ass at the plate. I’ve just got a funny feeling it’s going to happen.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
by txhc on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget the cost factor
CDavis $400K
Hank $6.2M
by tklawless on Oct 14, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again this is fucking retarded
It’s the offseason. Hell today’s AM post was like three lines long.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 6, 2009 1:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Josey
You are a horrible predictor of all things “Great Game.”
In 2006 on Minor League Ball you predicted the A’s would dominate the West for the next 5 years, the Angels would slip to around .500 and not be players in the division for awhile, and the Rangers would win 88 plus games, 95 if they signed Clemens. In January of this year on Athletic’s Nation, you said the A’s were constructed well and could challenge the Angels for the division title while the Rangers would win 72 games because Andrus was not ready, MY couldn’t play 3rd, and Milton Bradley had left. You cited figuring out how Giambi and Cust could co-exist would make the difference when in reality the answer was to get rid of Giambi before the A’s started really playing well.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 6, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about it
the more I hope you continue to predict the Rangers will do poorly. You are like the reverse Nostradamus. What you predict never comes true. You should try being a weatherman.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 6, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ASL
I evaluated JD’s fine work after the 2006 off-season and had the Rangers down for 75 wins before 2007 (they won 75 games) and said they’d win 76 games in 2008 (they won 79 but had pythag of 76).
I said Tom Hicks closing his wallet and doing nothing substantive after 2004 was a huge red flag for the franchise going forward and pissed all over every prediction that had the Rangers finishing with a winning record in 2005 & 2006.
So it’s all negative shtick? Not so much. I thought the Rangers would finish above .500 in 2004 based on how they played the last 88 games of 2003 (Evan Grant said they’d lose 95 games) and 20 games into that 2004 season I cooly evaluated their run differential and thought they’d win between 88-92 games (they won 89 games).
I said the hiring of Nolan Ryan is the best thing Tom Hicks ever did and whaddya know, the team picks up their performance in the standings, attendance makes a nice recovery, tv & radio ratings perk back up and we no longer see boneheaded trades or free agency signings.
I had Philly winning last year’s World Series (I have the Dodgers winning it this year).
Last year over at NMLR, Asshole Hodson was railing all over Billy Beane and the Oakland A’s for their trades and I said there was enough infrastructure still in place for that team to win 75 games (they won 75 games exactly).
I told Big Ed Coffin, much to his chagrin, that the Ms would finish within 10 games of the Rangers this year (they finished two games behind Texas).
Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss but there are those of us brave enough to make predictions and then there are those who are afraid to be wrong in public.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you make said predictions?
I would love to see a record of it.
Let’s run down your list.
1. Wow, you thought hiring Nolan was a good idea. Way to go out on a limb. No one else felt that way at all.
2. When did you have Philly winning it and where did you predict it. I could say I told people I work with that Philly would win, but I would understand if no one on here believed me.
3. The A’s prediction I saw said they could challenge for the division title, not win 75 games.
4. To finish within 10 games of someone isn’t that hard. In fact, you have to be really bad to not be within 10 games of the 2nd place team in your division. So again, way to go out on a limb.
You predicted the Rangers would win 72. That was embarassingly low. You predicted Andrus wasn’t ready. Probable Rookie of the Year. You said Michael Young couldn’t play 3rd. I would argue his injury, not Chris Davis was what killed “This Thing” at the end of the season. If you make enough really crazy predictions, you will eventually hit one and I guess convince yourself you are an out of the box thinker.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 6, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so Josey
won’t continue to twist the facts. Here is his exact quote from Athletics Nation:
Texas Rangers fan here… I think the A’s are real close and that if you would have scored Furcal, you’d be there. Not sure how you’re going to make Giambi, Cust work defensively but I think the A’s win 85+ games in 2009.
Your team is significantly ahead of the Texas Rangers (currently constructed, 72 wins) at this point.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 6, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my "I was wrong"
fanpost JW was noticeably absent from I was wrong confessions. Seemed like everyone else made an appearance except for him. He is one of the most common of all creatures: someone who is wrong very frequently but refuses to admit it. Does he know the history of the team? Sure. Does he know the stats? Sure. This is what makes him dangerous. He knows enough to be dangerous but not enough to be logical.
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Oct 6, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have copped to being wrong many times in the past in here
and other places.
Tricer got in my face early on, maybe January of this year and I spit out 10-15 predictions I had that failed.
So what.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just said
I hope you keep prediciting the Rangers do poorly because you are never right. Than, you give a list of very safe obvious predictions that you were right about. I called you on it and you lied saying you predicted 75 wins for the A’s when you predicted 85 somewhere else. That is what…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 6, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My prediction for the A's winning at least 75 games was for the 2008 season.
I nailed that prediction but missed on them in 2009.
Billy Beane & JD both need to fix their offenses.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 6, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say
you missed very badly on the 2009 A’s. You definitely had a front row seat on the misguided 2009 Oakland bandwagon.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 6, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense, Billy Beane is a genius
The outcome of 2009 was entirely planned by Beane as part of a larger scheme for domination of the AL West.
"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 6, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His real problem
is that he knows stats but not how to use them in a real manner. He can look at the blank numbers and see something, but is either unwilling or unable to look at anything other than his point, or see any indicators in them that might point to his evaluation being off.
Just like his continual pointing to Blalock’s 1st half OPS, which looked acceptable on the face of it. But when you looked just a little bit at it sorta fell apart. Low OBP combined with an unsustainable HR rate made for decent looking numbers that couldn’t last.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 6, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do Josey a disservice
He knows stats and how to use them. He just picks and chooses the stats that support his outrageous statements, even though he knows there are other stats out there that contradict him. He is just trying to incite everyone. As Benjamin Disraeli said: “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 6, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey you are a horrible predictor.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 6, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Josey tends to forget when he says what
earlier today “A minor skirmish (like my prediction regarding Tiny E) that I quickly came to realize and admit being wrong.”
And by quickly he means September 9th on the 139th game of the season…..
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 6, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
like above when he said he predicted the A’s to win 75 games this year, which they did. When I copied and pasted the quote saying they would win 85+ this year, it magically changed to last year when he predicted the A’s would win 75. That of course was convenient because no one has a record of that prediction and they happened to have won 75 last year.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ASL
I have no problems admitting when I’m wrong…when I’m actually wrong. This is my quote -
“Last year over at NMLR, Asshole Hodson was railing all over Billy Beane and the Oakland A’s for their trades and I said there was enough infrastructure still in place for that team to win 75 games (they won 75 games exactly).”
Last year is defined as 2008 and before that regular season, I thought they’d win 75 games (which is what they did).
This year, 2009, I thought they had a chance to win 85-86 games or so and I was wrong.
So, I got it right with Oakland in 2008 but missed it in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm ready for you to admit that you were wrong about Blalock vs. Davis post ASB.
by FuturePants on Oct 7, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My assertion always was that after June 1 the Rangers were a better team
when Chris Davis (who had a .189 average / .238 obp in May) was not in the line-up and Hank F was an every day player …. I was right.
See 11-15 record in June with Davis playing every day and Hank F in heavy platoon.
See 28-19 record when Hank F played every day.
See 18-21 record with Davis back up and Hank F buried/part-time player.
Gossip Queens got their asses whipped as well in The Great Hank Blalock War of June 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey
read this very slowly multiple times if necessary…
If you are any kind of educated baseball man, you cannot honestly think that 1 player made the difference during those stretches of play. There are far too many variables in the game of baseball to say one man made the difference. Davis played through the 20-9 month of May, but you manage to leave that out. You say that Davis’ September stats shouldn’t count because of the roster expansion, but you still cite the team’s record as an indicator he was the problem. I would say the MY injury derailed the Rangers late, but you point to the Davis error like it was the season ender. First of all, we still had a 5-2 lead going into the 9th, 2nd, Davis isn’t even really a 3B. He had to play there because Blalock can’t handle the strain anymore.
Seriously, you are so full of contradictions, lies, hypocrisy, and overall nonsense that you ruin any semblance of the good argument that you sometimes make. Davis wasn’t very good, but your overall refusal to admit that Blalock also sucked and your steadfast belief that Blalock helped turned the Rangers season around causes people to pay no attention to anything relevant you say.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go thru this one at a time...
Yes, Davis was on the team in May and was sucking dick as much as he ever did – .189 average/.238 obp – and the team did go 20-9. The reason why they played so well is because there were several (7 or 8 players) with OPS above .800. When the bats cooled off, they couldn’t carry Davis around any more.
On September 24, Chris Davis was hitting an unspeakable .219 with a ghastly .264 obp . The Rangers were something like 7.5 games out with 10 games left in the season…and then Davis turned it on. That’s padding your stats when the season means nothing.
Hank F Blalock wasn’t very good in 2009 but he was better than Chris Davis.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought you were an idiot, just that you are stubborn.
I have changed my mind.
It really amuses me that you get your shit handed to you so roundly, and so repeatedly by me that literally the only comeback you ever have against me is to call me “gossip queen.”
I know you don’t realize this, but calling someone “gossip queen” isn’t an argument.
by FuturePants on Oct 7, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is to Josey
and every other 7 year old on the planet…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After listening to Adam, Jamey, Ted and Evan on the podcast stagger around trying to explain
what went wrong with This Thing in September, I decided to do a little research.
I posted this over at NMLR and I’m sure the rest of the gang over there will do what they can (and be encouraged to do so from on high) to sabotage the thread so I’m posting over here as well.
Very interesting numbers that explain exactly why this team gagged it in September.
I was listening to the podcast last night (Jamey, your voice was heard approximately 8% of the time and my gosh, Evan can be a blowhard) and everybody (Evan, Adam, Jamey, Ted) was struggling to describe why the Rangers played so poorly the last 6 weeks of the season.
Nobody had a really good answer and the reason why is because there was not a single aspect of the team to blame. They wanted to blame the young players, their inexperience in playing meaningful September games and of course, the Michael Young injury. The truth of the matter is that the entire team was in a mental funk and they started playing a totally different (sloppy & stupid) style of baseball.
I’ve maintained that the Rangers were a distracted team after Chris Davis back up from OKC (he was back up only because the GM drafted him and not for actual performance). I said his presence on the big league roster was not going to help the big league club win (this year) and that internal dysfunction played itself out on the field.
Just look at what happened after August 23 -
The Rangers had 30 errors in their last 39 games (.769 of all games). Before August 25, the Rangers had 76 errors in 123 games (.617 of all games). If the Rangers had played defense all season like they played after August 23, the team would have finished with 124 errors (they had 132 errors in 2008).
The Rangers had an ERA of 5.07 in September. The team ERA in August was 4.56.
The Ranger OBP in September was .314. The Ranger OBP in August (with Cruz & Kinsler missing most of the month with injury) was .334.
The reason Jamey, Ted, Adam and Evan couldn’t find a scapegoat for the collapse is because the entire team went into a mental funk after Chris Davis was called up and Hank was buried / a part time player.
The Big White Elephant is parked right there in the living room shaking it’s butt yet nobody wants to talk about it.
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"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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by Chase Irwin on Oct 7, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So your position
is that the very presence of Davis caused the entire team to suck. Ok, brilliant, and soooo objective, too.
No one denies Davis had a shitty year, but it’s pretty amusing to see you contort yourself to make it look like Blalock somehow was better and that the entire team used Davis as some kind of barometer, or that they were incapable of playing well because he was there.
Thanks for the laugh.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Oct 7, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and again
They didn’t feel that way in May about Davis when they went 20-9?
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe
the ERA went up because of the release of Padilla, the injury to Millwood, the learning curve of Derek Holland etc. And maybe the offense slowed down without Young, Hamilton, Cruz, Kinsler. And what do August and September OBP’s have to do with Davis. He “padded” his stats in September meaning the other guys around him were doing the failing.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis padded his stats after September 24. To that point of the month
it was the same Chris Davis sucking the same big green donkey dick.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting desperate, Donuts.
Verrrry desperate. Your posts contain less and less facts and logic and more and more bad language, name-calling and wild theories.
by FuturePants on Oct 7, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He reminds me
of Marlon Brando at the end of the Godfather when he is sitting in that chair than gets up and stumbles around swatting at the fly, collapses and dies. If this argument keeps up, the online personality that is Josey may eventually stumble face first into the dust and disappear….
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds a bit like Colonel Kurtz
at the end of Apocalypse Now, with the “HORROR”, the horror…..of Chris Davis kicking his ass in September!
by tklawless on Oct 14, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drew the donkey green
because I’ve never seen a green donkey before and I wanted to see one.
Well, I think it’s an excellent green donkey. Congratulations, Josey. You just passed the first grade.
by CS3 on Oct 7, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And stated once again (this was written above)
“Yes, Davis was on the team in May and was sucking dick as much as he ever did – .189 average/.238 obp – and the team did go 20-9. The reason why they played so well is because there were several (7 or 8 players) with OPS above .800. When the bats cooled off, they couldn’t carry Davis around any more.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My question
was why was the team mentally able to carry him in May and not after he came back up later in the year?
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is very simple...
Young, Cruz, Tiny E, Hank F, Kinsler, Josh, Teagarden and Omar all had an OPS above .800 in May.
In June, Little Boy Donuts told Wash to put Hank F in a heavy platoon and continue playing Davis (.189 average /.238 obp in May) every day.
It didn’t play well in The Room and the dysfunction played itself out between the lines in both June & September.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oooooohhhhhhh
I see what you are getting at now. Daniels told Washington to play Davis even though Nolan doesn’t let Daniels do anything of importance.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan lets people do their job.
He observes, evaluates, suggests and then implements change.
Little Boy Donuts did a really shitty job replacing Milton Bradley’s presence this past season and it’s the biggest reason we’re sitting at home this week. so bank on it, change of some sort will be coming this off-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
I love your predictions of doom because you are never right. You predicted 72 wins, the Rangers won 87. I hope you predicted 65 next year so we can jump into the 90’s and make the playoffs.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, ASL
this was the first year I’ve been way off on the Rangers since 2004.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to you
public record is non-existent in this matter…
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just our luck
public record is availabe…
The Rangers made decent upgrades with their pitching but unless Juan Dominguez hits his ceiling of talent this team is still nothing more than a 86-88 win team. If they sign Clemens, 95+ wins and the AL Wild Card is a possibility
They did not sign Clemens so I’ll give you the 86-88 range, the Rangers went 80-82 in 2006. 7 wins may not seem way off unless you consider 87 wins is contention for the playoffs while 80 is under .500 and way out of the race in September…
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was pulled from
Minor League Ball in 2006. The same post where he said the AL West was at the mercy of the A’s for the next 5 years and the Angels weren’t going to be good for a couple more years.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you consider that the Ranger pythagorean record
in 2006 was 86-76, I don’t consider 80-82 way off but that’s up for interpretation.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
JD told Wash to play Davis even though he was terrible. Nolan observed and implemented change (Davis to AAA). After that, JD brought Davis back because JD drafted Davis, then Nolan let JD mandate that Davis be put back in the lineup every day once again? Where was Nolan at that time?
by FuturePants on Oct 7, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think Nolan let Little Boy Donuts run This Thing all season
and now that the season is over, LBD is being evaluated.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of this is serious. This is a bit.
He’s not sincerely arguing that the mere presence of CD in The Room after the OKC callup prompted the team to enter the death spiral that was September 09.
by JDT217 on Oct 7, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I am.
After June 1, when it was clear that Little Boy Donuts kept Davis on the roster (at the expense of Hank F who was having a better year) not because of performance but because he drafted him, this team shut down mentally and played a lethargic, dispassionate, stupid brand of baseball both in the month of June and after August 23.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It reminds me of what they teach you in talk radio
Make sure both sides of an argument are covered. Even if you don’t believe it, defend the hell out of your side.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, read his post again (or just wait for the next 50 times he posts it)
He says that in May several players PLAYING WELL carried Davis. After Davis came back up, those players WEREN’T PLAYING WELL and couldn’t carry him.
That is all correct. What’s total unsubstantiated BS is the theory that the room (who the F calls it that outside of Hockey guys?? It’s a clubhouse dumba$$) went into a funk because they couldn’t stand having CD back playing. Didn’t have anything to do with several guys just getting hurt or popping up in bunches.
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by bking on Oct 7, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bking subscribes to the theory of coincidence
but is at a loss to say exactly why the team sucked it in September.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then this team is in for a rough ride in 2010
without Hank F to hold the club house together. Might as well pull out the less than 70 wins call right now.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I’m gonna let JD go to market and see what he can find to fix the offense before making a stab at what they’re going to do in 2010.
I’m not very optimistic because this has always been JD’s biggest weakness as GM of This Thing.
It’s his 5th year on the job. He’s told all of his fan boys that 2010 is THE YEAR and he doesn’t have any Hall of Famers in their prime with 1.5 years left on their deal to trade with a team that has huge needs plus the ownership situation is murky.
Thank God Nolan is here.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, if it's so easy to pull of a Teixiera-like deal...
one must wonder why J.P. Ricciardi couldn’t unload Roy Halladay, or why the Rockies didn’t get more for Matt Holliday.
by JDT217 on Oct 7, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You identify ONE reason...
assert that the presence of CD in The Room was the sole producing cause of the team’s death spiral, and ignore the vast array of alternative explanations for the team’s slide, which include, but are not necessarily limited to: (1) Holland’s persistent inability to miss bats in the zone; (2) the injuries to Young and Hamilton; and (3) regressions toward the mean for guys like Hunter and Feldman.
by JDT217 on Oct 7, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at a loss at all..
There are several reasons why it sucked – the pitching went south, MY got hurt, Hamilton got hurt AGAIN, etc.
Any sane individual would realize that it can’t all be blamed on some horrible karma in the clubhouse (again, only a stubborn dumba$$ would keep using the hockey term for it) brought on by one guy.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Oct 8, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just one big coincidence...
nevermind the Ass of a Big White Elephant shaking in your face.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you realize...
that you’re the one defending the “one big coincidence” line? bking just listed three separate reasons.
by jwiscarson on Oct 8, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
classic
Davis affects all his other teammates ability to hit, field, and pitch just by his mere presense.
This just classic, classic stuff.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 7, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just keep telling yourself it's one big coincidence
and continue to ignore the Big White Elephant shaking his ass in your face.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's less logical to say an MLB team has good and bad months.
Which do NOT correlate to Davis being on the team.
by FuturePants on Oct 7, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you think that this team is so mentally fragile
that one player destroys an entire season?
What happens to these guys when they strike out on a borderline pitch? Make an error in the field? Ground into a double play? Sleep poorly? Get drunk?
You cast this entire team as a group of 25 adults who can’t handle the day-to-day rigors of a normal office environment without routine mental breakdowns and trips to a mental hospital, much less the pressures of playing a sport professionally in front of tens of thousands of fans 162 times a year.
Get. A. Grip.
by jwiscarson on Oct 7, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you explain what happened
with the Colorado Rockies this year?
Started the season 18-28, fired their manager and finished the
season 92-70.
Baseball chemistry is very, very fragile and this team had two very distinct personalities after June 1 (when Davis had proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he didn’t deserve to be on the big club yet was still given the job).
This was a strange case because a player like Davis is usually not allowed to suck that big of a dick for that long nor are they called back up to continue sucking the same big dick.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Baseball chemistry is very, very fragile"
Thank you for proving once and for all that you do not understand statistical analysis in any way, shape, or form.
It couldn’t possibly be that their pitching staff’s BABIP dropped by forty points past the month of June. Surely Clint Hurdle, the same man who heroically led that team to a World Series appearance in 2007, now had become some hellspawn able to affect BABIP, which has been shown through detailed historical statistical analysis to fluctuate around a mean.
But of course, Jim Tracy put on his Merlin hat, waved a magic wand, and a large house crashed upon Clint Hurdle. Whereupon he placed Clint Hurdle’s ruby slippers on the feet of Ubaldo Jiminez and Jason Hammel. And lo, he also proved that indeed relativity is bunk, and the aether predicted by Isaac Newton truly does exist. Reason and logic need no longer rule the day!
Thank you for freeing my mind, Josey. I am forever changed because of you.
by jwiscarson on Oct 7, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"[T]his team had two very distinct personalities after June 1..."
What were those “two very distinct personalities”? What were they? Explain that.
by JDT217 on Oct 7, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the cooler
we should trade him to the Angels to kill their run as A.L. West Champs…
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it interesting that Byrd has a career securing Sep/Oct line of
.311/.368/.495/.864 5 HR and 23 RBI’s
and CD was allowed to suck the big dick to the tune of
.318/.350/.518/.869 5 HR’s and 21 RBI’s
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 7, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How was Chris Davis doing for the month of September on September 24?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can it be that CD padded his stats in late September 2009 and Hank did not in late September 2008?
Hanks line in 2008 – .287/.338/.508/.846
on September 20th he was sitting at .258/.310/.418/.728 and then had a six game stretch where he exploded for .600/.643/1.400/2.043. Unfortunately, that final line in 2008 was a mirage and the Sep 20 line was what we should have expected in 2009 (.234/.277/.459/.736).
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 7, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried this one yesterday...
….J-Dubs says it wasn’t padding stats bc Hank hit well earlier in the year.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 7, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryin
Was there a big difference over what Chris Davis did after September 24 v what he did earlier in the season?
How did that difference compare to what Hank F did earlier in the year v what he did last September?
Exactly.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey
Hank’s magical June, 10-56 at the plate. I haven’t heard a counter for that yet…
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno....
….professionals make adjustments?
CD made an adjustment
HFB did not.
Check. Mate.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 7, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize Hank
was 9 for 56, a .160 BA in the magical month of June you keep spouting off about right?
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
10 for 56 in June.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey:
Honest Question and I want actual names here. Who would you like the Rangers to go get this offseason? You must give actual names of players you want to see acquired. If you are not going to do that, do not respond to this post.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a free agent list so I'm not sure who is available
but I’d love to have Nick Johnson & Bobby Abreu.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
Do you think that with the present ownership situation, the Rangers have the ability to go get both of those guys? Also keep in mind, the Angels will most likely do whatever necessary to keep Abreu.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan said the payroll is going to remain close to
what it was last year, so yeah, they have room and if not, it’s up to our 5th year GM with an Ivy League degree to find a way to make room.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Find a way to make room..."
Because it’s on JD, right? Whether we can find a way to make room, that’s all on JD. Has nothing to do with the ownership situation. Nothing to do with Hicks, um, continuing to shit the bed in technicolor, or whatever.
Nick Johnson will demand 3/18, has a history of injury (freakish injuries, but all the same), and looks to be on the decline defensively.
Bobby Abreu will stay with the LAAA.
Try again.
by JDT217 on Oct 7, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
if the Rangers target those two and Abreu chooses to re-sign with the Angels and Johnson decides to go somewhere else, is that on Daniels?
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is getting hilarious
Abreau I might understand (at whatever unreasonable price it takes).
Nick Johnson? Crippled, due for about a 15 point decline in OPS+?
Defensive liability who in no way can help with run prevention?
I guess that’s what I get for reading the new posts.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Oct 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if you remember or not, old timer
but we have a DH in the AL so Johnson doesn’t have to play in the field.
He kills LH pitching, he gets on base against everybody plus he’s available for nothing but money.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DH OK
Nick doesn’t have a yard pass to go out to 1B. Heh …
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Oct 7, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Johnson played 133 games last year
and finished with a .426 obp.
2 years / $ 14 million may get it done. That gives this team a year to see if Davis can get his act together and another year for Smoak to develop.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 7, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, JW
If Nick takes a deal somewhere else for 3/18, is that on JD?
by JDT217 on Oct 8, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeeeeez
are you one of these fans who give ‘atta-boys’ for trying.
JD either gets it done or he doesn’t. No medals for trying.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
So we need to commit 3/18 to Nick Johnson if that’s where the market sets for his services? I just want to clarify that you think 3/18 for Johnson is a deal that must get done, and JD is to blame if it does not.
Your response will be Exhibit A in an evisceration of your petulant argument on some future date.
by JDT217 on Oct 8, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said
2 years / $ 14 million for NJohnson sounded reasonable.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if he signs for 2/14 somewhere else...
JD shit the bed in technicolor, right? I want you to clarify exactly what JD’s obligations are with respect to a potential Nick Johnson acquisition.
by JDT217 on Oct 8, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends.
He may get somebody he thinks is better than NJohnson.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wants applause from me
he needs to fix the most glaring problem This Thing has.
Why is anybody suddenly shocked our obp needed to be fixed?
We had the problem going into the season, we had it at the trade deadline and we have it going into this off-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so we are clear
You want JD to improve the offense with better OBP by the hitters?
Cause last time there was a “glaring problem” according to you, JD did address AND fix the OF for the 2008 season….. and still no applause from you.
Then this year the pitching was fixed by ingredients provided by JD that were seasoned by Ryan and cooked to perfection by Mike Maddux….. and yet, still nothing from you….
Jeeez, the players JD picked up in the Tex trade have barely made any kind of meaningful contributions to the Rangers in The Show, but the pro-JD crowd is still running around shouting "I told ya so."
by red3biggs on Oct 8, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol on the sig
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing Blalock is likely to be
an OBP improvement over all.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Oct 8, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blogging
Someone sent me this joke. I thought of LSB right away. Wonder why?
Light Bulb
How many online forum members does it take to change a light bulb?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers.
41 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
6 to argue over whether it’s “lightbulb” or “light bulb”…another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is “lamp”.
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that “light bulb” is perfectly correct.
156 to email the participant’s ISPs complaining that they are in violation of their “acceptable use policy”.
109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb group
203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, and lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this group.
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
27 to post URL’s where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
14 to post that the URL’s were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL’s.
3 to post about links they found from the URL’s that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add “Me too”.
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
19 to quote the “Me too’s” to say “Me three”.
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
44 to ask what is a “FAQ”.
4 to say “didn’t we go through this already a short time ago?”
143 to say “do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs”.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again….
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
by RangerEddie on Oct 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hefe just pwned you over at the NMLR board....
Straight served Dubs…
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 7, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who is hefe?
might as well link it.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 8, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GET SERVED!
What are we talking about?
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some dude named Hefe300 stuck it to our boy pretty good....
You can read the hole 20 page thread here, or just start at the latest Josey rant and go on here
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thought that you
are going to get a rational argument from Josey is about the dumbest proposition out there. The long repetitive Josey discussions are what killed NMLR for me, and its starting to kill LSB for me. I’d just as soon see him suffer the same fate as Texas Dawgs, then maybe some of the idiots who came over from NMLR just to argue with him would go away also.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 8, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well put.
I never expect rationale from JW….just kinda funny to see folks arguing with him AND expecting rational debate.
I still think JW will never be banned because it’s really Adam’s brother who is in the mortgage business.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this particular thread optional, Cahill?
The Great Hank Blalock War of June 2009 is over but there is still a lot of spillover animosity (see Jamey’s take today). Creating this thread was an excellent idea by adam.
You know going in that there are going to be all kinds of confrontations but best of all, it’s optional. Adam wanted the main street threads cleared of debris and confrontation and I’ve adhered.
Rarely will you see me go on an all-out offensive. Usually it’s a drunken idiot (see Rodney’s ridiculous GDT meltdown), somebody from the Lewinsky crowd or a mindless cheerleader for the organization who feels froggy.
If you don’t want to read where people take shots at me and I respond, stay out of the thread.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is taking shots at you, Jay.
Your rants are just so stupid and so over the top that people feel compelled to point out just how ridiculous you have become, and you interpret that as “taking shots at you.”
It’s not a personal thing against you, Jay. It’s that your writing is so poor, so full of holes in logic and facts that people want to point it out.
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Rants are so stupid" ...Yet This Thing did suck and did play as though distracted
after June 1 when Chris Davis was in the line-up.
People now wanna blame the MYoung injury…MYoung was very healthy in June and This Thing still put up one of their worst offensive months in the history of the organization (including the ’72 team that hit .217 for the year).
The Big White Elephant continues to shake his ass in your face but nobody wants to acknowledge.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock
went 10-56 for a .160 avg. in June. Davis was 18-82, a .220 avg. and saw his OBP and OBPS both rise that month. You still haven’t responded to that simple stat…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank F was also in a heavy platoon (started 14 of 26 games)
and he didn’t respond well to being screwed around by team. Given that Hank F had an 850 OPS the first two months and that Davis was in the process of being allowed to suck one of the biggest dicks in the history of MLB, there’s no question that this was a Little Boy Donuts screw-around of the tallest order.
Don’t know if Hank was trying too hard or what happened. That’s his own fault. He struggled mightily after August 13 and opened the door for a GM who was anxious to have his own guy in the mix instead of doing the correct thing for the team.
My problem, all along is that the team played a much better style of baseball after June 1 when Blalock was an every day player and Davis was not in the bigs.
The chemistry of a really good team was jacked with in early June, made right on July 1 and then fucked up irreparably on August 25 (three weeks after the call-up we had a fork in our ass).
The fact that this team went running to Hank F with their pants around their ankles and hat in their hand pleading that he save them when they had 1 run in 5 games at the most important time of the season (and he delivered) validates my theory.
Little Boy Donuts mangled the entire Blalock/Davis all season long and it’s a big reason we’re sitting home this week.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One players "presence" truly made a difference in this lineup
and his name is Josh Hamilton
Record in Hammy starts – 52-33 5+ runs per games
All other games – 35-42 4 runs per game
That stat, more than any other, makes a compelling argument why this thing derailed offensively in June and September (which Hamilton missed almost all of).
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 8, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, your rants are stupid.
Blalock: .234/.277/.459
Davis: .238/.284/.488
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
all you gotta do is point to the scoreboard.
May was easily the most productive month for this team, and CD was an everyday player.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Oct 8, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there were about 7-9 players
who had an OPS above .800 while Chris Davis hit .189 with a .238 obp.
When the team quit hitting and Davis continued to suck that historical dick, they couldn’t carry his unproductive ass around and that dysfunction showed up immediately.
A 20-9 team in May goes 11-15 in June.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
Blalock hit .160 in that month while Davis hit .220 along with raising his OBP and OBPS. So Blalock sucked and Davis actually hit better in June than he had in May when the team went 20-9. I think Blalock sucked the life out of the team.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did the team play so well from July 1 thru August 23?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Why does a dog spin circles before it takes a dump? You probably think it has a lot to do with Blalocks .238 BA he posted during that stretch. I’m sure that was the catalyst.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dogs spinning circles...
usually it’s to beat the grass down. They do it before they lay down, too. Turning in circles tramples the grass down.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Oct 8, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
my dog does it on her bed, it's annoying.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like the piss shivers.
Instinct, they can’t help it.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Oct 8, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this whole
“Room” bit, I wonder why the players would be so mad at Davis and yet not blame themselves at all for sucking after May.
by brettgardner on Oct 8, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because
in Josey’s world, these high dollar professional athletes don’t accept any personal blame of any kind. They simply look for a scapegoat, blame him, and stop playing hard comfortable with the knowledge that they have a built in excuse.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talk to the Colorado Rox
about chemistry and what The Fart in the Room will do to your team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've lost me
You are resorting to broad based statements that are impossible to prove as a way to argue a dumbass point of view.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I've lost you, go back to the basics-
11-15 in June.
28-19 from July 1-August 23
18-21 from August 25 to October 4.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys, GUYS!
April and May don’t count.
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
September
doesn’t give a shit what you did in April or May.
Good GM’s recognize this.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good GMs recognize
Small sample sizes, statistics, math, logic, reason, and value. Good GMs don’t freak out over two bad months or even six bad months. Anyone with a background in mathematics, statistical analysis, sabermetrics, or a rudimentary history of baseball realizes that you can’t tell anything from two months of data, and you can tell very little from one year.
But, to your point, you want a histrionic six-year-old running the franchise who’s going to blow the team up every time a player performs at or below some arbitrarily-defined level of “good”. I’m glad this argument has gone on long enough that we get a clear picture of the inner workings of Josey logic.
by jwiscarson on Oct 8, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong, I just don't wanna
see another major league player wear a Texas Ranger jersey who is allowed to play every day despite hitting .202 with a .256 obp that strikes out 114 times in his first 277 plate appearances.
That player is drowning and it doesn’t take much of a math background to know this.
A good GM would have recognized long before July 6 that Chris Davis playing every day in The Show wasn’t good for the player individually or the team.
It’s a big reason we’re sitting at home this week.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you argue with an idiot long enough
you become the idiot…I give up before I fit that description.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've finally figured it out...
Chris Davis kicked your kids ass, right?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
JW is just one of those idiots who thinks that guys play harder when one guy is in the lineup over another. Ever play with one of those idiots Ryin? Yeah i didnt either. Why? Because ballplayers dont care.
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Oct 8, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explain what happened in Colorado this year, Cave.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we change managers during the yr?
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we win the wildcard two yrs ago?
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Oct 8, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we suffer through an injury riddled
season by arguably the best player on our team last yr only to have him healthy all yr this yr?
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Oct 8, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey
I gave you a perfectly reasonable explanation elsewhere in this thread, and you chose to ignore it. Respond to my argument or stop using Colorado as an example.
by jwiscarson on Oct 8, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't work that way
if you disprove a JW theory, he moves to a new cliche, waits a day, and than repeats the old one hoping no one will notice.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I know.
I’m fully aware that he is the villain in that cartoon you watched as a kid who escapes at the last moment only to try the same trite plan the following episode.
You know every episode’s going to end the same way, but you keep watching just in case. I’m hoping for a series finale, but am resigned to the nature of the game we play.
by jwiscarson on Oct 8, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you think JD was smart
to leave Davis up here until July 6?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the front office
did an okay job. Chris performed at a very high level last year, and is all of 23 years old. I think the first few years of a player’s career in the majors are critical to his development, and you have to have a higher degree of tolerance for bad performances when prospects are adjusting to pitching at this level.
I think they reached a point where they felt like Chris wasn’t learning anything from being in the majors, and that it went from a slump to a mechanical flaw or plate discipline problem (depending on your perspective there), and he needed time to work out his problems away from a team in the middle of a race. Honestly, I figured they were going to ride it out until the ASB and make their evaluations then — that would’ve given them right at 600 PAs, which is about a full year’s worth of data.
When you have a team this young, I think you make your personnel decisions in a vacuum, because it’s all about getting everyone to the same level at the same time, so you don’t have a constant free agent shuffle through the organization.
by jwiscarson on Oct 8, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of blah, blah, blah there...
was it smart to leave Chris Davis here until July 6?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
because the option behind him wasn’t any better, is a free agent, and shows no interest in doing anything for the team. Blalock has become an individual with only his stats and next contract on his brain.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 8, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I answered your question and provided a reason.
I said it was “okay”, which is neither smart nor stupid.
by jwiscarson on Oct 8, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely JW never played
sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Oct 8, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Couldnt have been said better
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Oct 8, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Played high school sports at a fairly high level
for a 5A school in Dallas that was ranked.
Was a really good basketball player. The 6’3" Dirty White Boy who could should shoot from way downtown and cradle dunk while leaping from just inside the foul line. The rugged shooting guard who could keep up with smaller players and would lead the team in blocked shots and free throw %. Playing JUCO ball for a small school in Texas didn’t seem very appealing.
Fair to spare as a baseball player. Think of a Graig Nettles type (excellent fielding 3B that hit LH) who couldn’t hit a curve ball to save his life.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love
That people who sucked at baseball always say they were “excellent” fielders.
by brettgardner on Oct 8, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's your athletic history, bg?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing above little league
But I don’t claim to have been an excellent fielder or hitter.
by brettgardner on Oct 8, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you wear wrist and head bands?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old school baby....
Chuck Taylors, short shorts and tube socks
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, you know it!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, some how this picture comes to mind...

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Oct 8, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you boys still worried about this?
Hank F is gone and I’m hoping Chris Davis is better than the player we saw suck a historical dick in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on you little jellyfish...
…we all know that next year you’ll be watching games with your Chris Davis voodoo dolls…..ringing your hands in excitement as you anticipate some sort of Davis failure.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 8, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a big fan of Chris Davis until
he went 1 for 22, 3 for 44, 7 for 60 and then JD kept running him out there when every instinctual bone in his body should have told him he was f’ing up and killing the team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Facepalm
Wrong, I just don’t wanna see another major league player wear a Texas Ranger jersey who is allowed to play every day despite hitting .202 with a .256 obp.
Except Davis hit .238/.284/.488
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did you forget the rest of the sentence, Queenie?
“…that strikes out 114 times in his first 277 plate appearances.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need.
Your facts were already a blatant misrepresentation, so the rest of what you had to say is meaningless.
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was misrepresented?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=davisch02&year=2009&t=b
In the first half of this season Chris Davis had 277 plate appearances with 114Ks and a .202 batting average / .256 obp.
You won’t find another player in major league history with that many at bats in one season who struck out 41% of the time and had an obp that low.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 8, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you're smart enough to read.
by FuturePants on Oct 8, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis' suckitude
“In the first half of this season Chris Davis had 277 plate appearances with 114Ks and a .202 batting average / .256 obp.
You won’t find another player in major league history with that many at bats in one season who struck out 41% of the time and had an obp that low."
Well, there’s this other guy- he only struck out about half as much, but he did post this line after the All-Star Break:
215 PA, .201 BA, .237 OBP, 585 OPS
That’s only 86 OPS points lower than Davis’ 1st-half numbers, but clearly, that guy was a key cog of the Ranger lineup, and Davis was drowning.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Oct 8, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and this would be new HOW exactly???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Oct 8, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Josey - serious question
You’ve stated that Nolan “implements change” 29 times (I searched it). You’ve claimed that Nolan stated he would sit back, observe, make suggestions and implement change. You also stated that was his “mantra.” When did he say that?
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Oct 8, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was right after Nolan was hired...
He was on The Ticket or Galloway.
No links, just my beyond awesome memory.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 13, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
As long as there’s no concrete evidence there’s no way for me to disprove it. Seems about right. As an attorney, this is about the most annoying argument made by the most annoying attorneys and it goes a little something like this “the other side has failed to find evidence and/or caselaw proving I’m wrong, so I’m right.”
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Oct 13, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're not in a court
of law, dipshit.
If somebody goes on Galloway or The Ticket or some other random radio show there is not always going to be a link as “evidence.”
I don’t know why you’d dispute it though because it is exactly what happened.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 13, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
This is way funnier than your boring-as-shit bits about Davis. Keep this up.
by brettgardner on Oct 13, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
“I don’t need to prove my point with evidence because I know I’m right!”
I think this is a summarization of Josey as a whole.
by jwiscarson on Oct 13, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you believe that anything heard on the radio but not linked
should not be discussed?
Why?
And in case you forgot, Chris Davis sucked a dick this past season until September 24.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 13, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that anything said once
and never repeated again is, in the world of PR, bullshit.
by jwiscarson on Oct 13, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan Ryan discusses his management style....
“I’m not going to make wholesale changes and try to fix everything in one day,” Ryan continues. “My management style is to give people room, let them do their jobs. If they don’t succeed, then it’ll be time for change.”
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2008-03-13/news/can-nolan-ryan-save-the-texas-rangers-agan/
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 13, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's good to know
He thinks so highly of Daniels.
by brettgardner on Oct 14, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
My favorite part of this JoseyBait is that he responded with a quote from Nolan “Jesus” Ryan himself, saying that unsuccessful personnel will be replaced.
I also love the cherry-picking from that same article. Note:
“What Jon has done in acquiring these kids,” Ryan says, “is the backbone of our rebuilding.”
Thanks Josey.
by jwiscarson on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all
a couple of big reasons the stupid sonofabitch had to start another rebuilding project despite taking over a very young team that had won 89 games a year previous (and also receiving a major bump in payroll) is because he traded AGonzales, CYoung, Soriano and Danks for 6 bags of shit.
We shouldn’t have been in any kind of position to rebuild in 2007 and because our Hall of Fame potential player in his prime with 1.5 years left on his deal couldn’t stand the blatant incompetence (both Hicks and Little Boy Donuts) in the Ranger FO, he wanted out asap.
So we’ve somewhat rebuilt but the major league roster still has big holes and JD’s only success in acquiring talent in the past came when he dealt a Hall of Fame player in his prime to a GM who didn’t give a damn about the immediate future.
There’s nothing in JD’s body of work as a GM to date that suggests he will be able to fix the current major league team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 14, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Nolan disagrees, and he’s way better at kicking ass and taking names than you are…so….
by brettgardner on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that shovel getting heavy?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 14, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very.
Any other trite comebacks old man? You’ve been entertaining me more lately.
by brettgardner on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did fraternity rush go for you this fall?
Did any mean seniors make you do the elephant walk?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 14, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Keep it coming. This is way funnier than “sucked the biggest dick” talk.
by brettgardner on Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love your citation...
of Chris Young and Alfonso Soriano. Their collective -1.3 WAR this year would’ve really pushed us over the edge!
I think your second paragraph references Tex. I don’t think you’re in any position to make assertions on his mental state regarding the Rangers front office, and I don’t think a player is any sort of an expert when it comes to building a winning franchise. But please, keep rolling out the logical fallacies.
I’m glad that your entire argument against JD boils down to a bunch of misrepresented quotations about Nolan Ryan and the fact that Adrian Gonzales isn’t here anymore.
Ye GODS, not one botched trade?! What would you do if we had Brian Sabean for a GM? Omar Minaya? I guess you probably wouldn’t have to take Metamucil in the morning to stay regular…but you might have to buy some extra Depends.
by jwiscarson on Oct 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano had 46 bombs the year
JD traded him for a big, big bag of shit in Brad Wilkerson.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 14, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
Soriano also put up a 2.0 WAR his last year with the Rangers. Wilkerson had an awful year with the Nats (by his then-career standards) and outperformed Sori by three runs.
If you actually think that you could’ve accurately predicted that Soriano would re-transform himself into an all-star for the following two years, and Wilkerson would walk off the face of the earth, then you must be Merlin.
by jwiscarson on Oct 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean he took over a team that won 79 games?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Oct 14, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repeated question about the 2004 team
How many of the below players have/had great careers outside of the Rangers organization?
And how many of them did it due to JD trading them away for peanuts? (prior to their 1st FA year)
Lance Nix
Kevin Mench
Ramon Nivar
Michael Young
Mark Teixeira
Alfonso Soriano
Adrian Gonzalez
Hank Blalock
Gerald Laird
Chris Young
Michael Tejera
Ryan Snare
Ricardo Rodriguez
Nick Regilio
Sam Narron
Kameron Loe
Colby Lewis
Travis Hughes
Rosman Garcia
Frank Francisco
Ryan Drese
Juan Dominguez
Nick Bierbrodt
Joaquin Benoit
Mike Bacsik
Jeeez, the players JD picked up in the Tex trade have barely made any kind of meaningful contributions to the Rangers in The Show, but the pro-JD crowd is still running around shouting "I told ya so."
by red3biggs on Oct 14, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why in the fuck is this up here?
Who fucking cares? It’s the offseason… ignore the prick.
Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
by SarasotaRanger on Oct 12, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This was an incredibly efficient way of putting a stupid reoccurring issue to rest
I applaud you, AJM, and hope you do this in the future more quickly
by BuckyB on Oct 12, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Will probably be needed when Davis
rolls another untimely 1 for 22, 3 for 44, 7 for 60, 8 for 46…
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Oct 13, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get some positives about Davis
1. His great defense at first base, sure he made some mistakes, but all in all a great showing.
2. He looked like a better hitter after he came back up from the minors trip.
3. He also gives this team some versatility at the corners, could we honestly expect Hank, if need be to play 2 or more weeks at the hot box…No his body couldn’t do it.
4. Another thing, he isn’t a seasoned vet yet, if I were in his position I don’t know what I would do, but he is still a young hitter and appears to have gotten some things straightened out in his most recent trip up.
Redundant I know, but I wanted to comment.
by RangersSD on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5. He wears a thong.
There, no longer redundant.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Recent personel decision may shed some light on the answer
Zack Minasian, clubhouse and equipment manager, was recently let go. Turns out, that back in June, he without prior approval of Nolan Ryan, he changed the scent of the AirWick air fresheners from Mountain Jasmine to French Vanilla. This was actually the the cause of the “smell in the room” that affected team chemistry. This wasn’t noticed until last week. JD, with Nolan’s backing, acted swiftly, handing Minasian his walking papers.
It wasn’t Hank Feeble Blalock, or CD, or any of the other numerous crazy explanation that have been posited here. It was the AirWick. Case solved.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 14, 2009 12:46 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
As shitty a year as Chris Davis (we'd all admit) had.....
including a stretch of almost unheard of ‘suckiness’…..the final slash lines were:
Blalock: .234/.277/.459
Davis: .238/.284/.488
Damn, is that even possible?
That alone should make Josey take the Hank ‘green donkey dick’ out of his mouth/ass.
by tklawless on Oct 14, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
he was able to put up those shitty numbers for almost 6 mil less than Blalock.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Oct 14, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey's Play Pen .. Snooze ..

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Oct 15, 2009 3:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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