Friday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 9, 2009 10:52 AM CDT
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PrintWith the season over and the playoffs starting, there's not a ton of Rangers news out there right now.
But Evan Grant does have a roundtable discussion with Marlon Byrd, Ian Kinsler, and Michael Young up. Key quote from Young:
The aftermath of '04 can't happen here again. It's time.
Amen, brother.
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Did they just open a Sizzler in Arlington? I don't see it listed on Sizzler's webpage.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
BTW, for those who might not have read EG's chat, Kinsler was in a big hurry to go to Sizzler.
Or somehow end the chat.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Not having heard Kinsler's radio interviews
I was kinda giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he really is a bit of a douche.
he is
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 9, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
what'd he say?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
basically just dodging questions
Evan: There is some thought this team could use another right-handed bat, yet all three of you are right-handed hitters and were three of the most productive hitters on the club. The other was Nelson Cruz. He’s right-handed, too. So on one hand, your best producers have been right-handed hitters, but on the other, there are a lot of days when your lineup has looked vulnerable against lefties.
Kinsler: It’s time to go. We are going to Sizzler.
other random answers...
Kinsler: I was thinking of taking cricket lessons this off season.
Kinsler: Try walking in my Mizunos
Yeah
he is a douche. I dont think there is any doubt about that anymore.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed,
its just that this yr he didnt perform (qualifier: like the leadoff hitter he was suppoed to bed) so i care.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
be*
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
but he was a 30/30 hitter!!!!
30/30!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Oct 9, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's not something to scoff at...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think it is either
but just because he went 30/30 doesnt mean it was a great success offensively when most other offensive metrics were down.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I was being semi-sarcastic
he was huge on my fantasy team…but it finished 7th so failure on both ends.
The good news is that he has shown better overall numbers, and he’s still got the ability. The bad news is even in a 30/30 campaign having missed a lot of time, MAN did he suck at AVE and getting on base
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
He was one of the 3 or 4 best second basemen in the A.L.
So I don’t care if he’s a douche or not.
Really, even if he doesn’t perform, I don’t care if he’s a douche or not.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 9, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Well i do
to each their own
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
How exactly do you mean?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 9, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
x
Well i do: Answering that i care if Kinsler is a douche
To each their own: Everyone has their own opinion. This is not something worth arguing over an internet message board.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
I disagree...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't care if he's a douche
but completely dismissing his flyball rate is disconcerting. he has the 2nd highest FB% in all of baseball and consequently hits the 3rd fewest ground balls.
in 2008 Kinslers LD % was 24.2 it dropped this year to 15.9
in 2008 Kinslers FB % was 43.3 it raised this year to 54%
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I care about it
only insofar as to how much the other younger players on the team follow his lead.
That's weird
Don’t you always talk about Papelbon and Pedroia being douches?
by brettgardner on Oct 9, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
They're on another level of doucheness...
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
the difference is those douches play for another team
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
you mean Papeldouche?
Pedroia isn’t really a douche, he’s just a Napoleon complex rat looking individual
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
That's malignant dwarf
One must beware of malignant dwarves at all times. They cause so much negative reaction that they get away with treacherous stuff like getting hits off good pitchers (when the pitchers are contrmplating how to throw to a malignant swarf).
The antidote for malignant dwarves is to throw high inside fastballs. You get one of two outcomes. You strike out the malignant dwarf, or you give him a mild concussion. Either works.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Oct 9, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
So, if the Rangers could afford Lackey, would you be happy to see them sign him?
Or, just accept it as a means to an ends? I would just have a hard time being a fan of the Rangers on days that Lackey would pitch, and it’s becoming harder for me to be excited when Kinsler is at bat, and not because of his pop-up performance. Players that act like these two just kind-of make me embarrassed to root for the team.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Of course, aside from being a douche
that specifically hates the Rangers, I also think his next few years won’t be worth what we’d have to pay for them. I think he very likely could be Millwood 2.
how old is he?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was the same age as Millwood
when he signed his contract with the Rangers, but I could be wrong…
and TR mentioned the comparison of millwood
in his mailbag…
Lackey has been in the big leagues for 71/2 years and turns 31 later this month. He has a career record of 102-71 with a 3.81 ERA, .263 opponents batting average and a .590 winning percentage in 1,501 innings. Kevin Millwood turned 30 after he had been in the big leagues for 71/2 years. At that point he was 98-64 with a 3.89 ERA, .247 opponents batting average and a .605 winning percentage in 1,367 1/3 innings.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
yeah I'm not on board with Lackey
for some reason I was thinking he was still in his late 20’s
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
kind of like AJM, I don’t care if a guy is a douche or not…just perform on the field and don’t step on your dick off of it and I’ll be cool with anyone…I just want a World Series.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
As long as Kins doesn't run off the field after a pop-out
With a one-finger slute to the fans in the stands, who cares
Like ya said, go out there and perform and we’ll be fine
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
What's the point in your favorite team winning.....
a World Series if you can’t be proud of your team and make other fans and teams envious??
If you have a bunch of assholes on your team, no one will care if you win.
You – Woohoo!! Hey look!! My Rangers finally won!!
Anyone listening – Who cares?? Your team is a bunch of douches!!
Wash is an idiot!!
if the rangers were a bunch of douches and they brought
a World Series victory…who cares. As long as my team isn’t criminals if they win it all, I’ll take it. We haven’t won a playoff series. I’ll take a World Series with the exchange of a douche team.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Totally.
I would not give a fuck who is on this team if they brought home the title. I honestly wouldn’t. Give me Bonds, Lackey, Papelbon and Pedroia and whomever else.
That said, it’s hard to win the Series, so I don’t advocate just bringing in douches. Mine is a very hindsight kind of attitude.
I donno
I think the Red Sox fans got satisfaction out of it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Douche
I wasn’t reading it as that. What I saw was that he felt insecure about it. I think he knew he was having an issue with it, and tried to correct things down the stretch. He had that Monster April (.322/.384/.656) and regressed for 2 months followed by a July from hell (.157/.200/.348 with a 3/17 BB/K ratio) which included him being left off the All Star Roster and concluded with him getting hurt on July 28.
When he came back he had a monster rest of August and an ok, but not exceptional September/October. But I think the “swinging for the fences” mantra was overused, as he went 21 games without homering in September. If anything, he tried to be more selective in September, posting a 13/7 BB/K ratio despite hitting just .257
In short, I think he knows his issues, but doesn’t want to talk about them to the media.
hmm
But I think the "swinging for the fences" mantra was overused, as he went 21 games without homering in September.
That doesn’t mean anything. He could easily be swinging for the fences and absolutely sucking at it.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Because he's an insecure little douche...
Who should shut his fucking mouth and play baseball. Better.
Yep
Only thing I care about is his incessant overswinging this year.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by LSJ on Oct 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. Not all that impressed with Kinsler, and MY is also a bad statesman.
Byrd is far better as a interviewee. They could take some tips from him.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
true.
but he needs a lesson from his PR agent
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
If he said it only once I could see it be taken out of context
But he said it a couple times along with the numerous times this season he called out fans on his radio show. The second time he mentioned Sizzler was the one that really made me think he was being douchey.
That’s where Rudy is a big asset. He makes the learning curve happen faster. Sign Marlon, keep Rudy. Let’s go to Sizzler.
To me that sounds like he’s fed up with Evan asking semitough questions
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Kinsler
I think it sounded like he didn’t really want to do the interview to begin with. And it seemed he got upset when he got asked direct tough questions.
But i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, things don’t always translate well in print and they just came off a disappointing end of the year.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I think Kinsler was just doing a bit
and trying to be funny. I’m not a huge Kinsler fan, but I saw (not heard) nothing in the chat that would cause be to like him any less.
The sizzler thing
isn’t that from Happy Gilmore?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Ah, I had forgotten about that.
If that’s what he was doing, it’s pretty funny.
And, I could see MY/Kinsler being a bit confused about having a nuts-and-bolts chat on hitting with Evan Grant. EG doesn’t often delve into those types of discussions.
Maybe when Ian tries to be funny or pump up the fanbase with challenges he’s the type of person whose heart is in the right place but who doesn’t quite say it in the right way.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Me either
Much like the “Nelson Cruz is destined to be traded” hullabaloo, it seems a couple guys advance the theory, then 60 more jump on board and commence parrotting.
Way overblown.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
I think they're just looking for scapegoats
and since we can’t blame the pitching, each one of the hitters is susceptible.
Therefore, I now dub our starting catcher: Jarrod Saltalasucksalot, and blame him for the entire season’s failures
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Its pretty clear
if you look at the numbers, that 1B and C sucked ass offensively.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I cannot bring myself to blame CD
but he should be blamed by somebody
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe it's an inside joke with EG?
he looks like he’d enjoy a good Sizzler meal
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
No link to the chat?
Such blogging fail
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/rangers-roundtable-wrapping-up-the-seaso.html
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Ummm
The blue words “Evan Grant does a roundtable discussion” is the link
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
When the post first went up it didn't have it.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 9, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Based on that interview
Theres gonna be alot of irritated folks around here this winter.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Because Rudy won't be resigned?
Or Byrd won’t be? Or lack of FA acqusitions?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
No
Because I think the players feelings, especially regarding Byrd, will factor into the decisions we make this winter. I think Byrd will be resigned and Rudy will be brought back which will irritate alot of people on here.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I do think JD
knows what he wants to accomplish longterm. I think he showed last winter that he won’t let the players or fans opinionsaffect his decisions.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
JD's decisions
JD’s decisions on Rudy and Byrd will depend on how they fit into his plan and how they fit into his budget for next year and on forward. In many ways, what MY said about a right handed hitter is very right. Why are we looking to dump Byrd and sign another right handed bat? Byrd is a right handed bat. And Byrd wants to stay, whether he wants to stay to the tune of a 2 year $8 million dollar deal , turning down 3 years $15 million from the cubs is a different story.
as far as Rudy goes, its basically the same thing. If someone offers him more than the Rangers, then the decision is up to Rudy. I’m sure that JD will make an offer to him that is more than fair, but he won’t get into a bidding war over Rudy Jaramillo.
And Coolbaugh would be a pretty decent hitting coach as well. He certainly fixed CD.
And if it causes MY to decide to leave, well, we can’t do much about that.
Ira
I don't think...
MY is leaving… nobody is going to take that contract and he has a pretty tight no-trade clause.
Heh. If Mike "decides" to leave, he's deciding to leave 50 million bucks on the table
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
No.
I don’t care.
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Oct 9, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I certainly hope
they start making strong moves to win the division this offseason. I really don’t want to rely on everyone on the team having a career season to progress. I’d really like 1 more starter, and 1-2 more bats.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Robbie Erlin is tiny
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 9, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
and they need to feed Luis Sardinas.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 9, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
A few of Jasons' twitters:
In case anyone is wondering, I’m still front and center on the Tomas Telis bandwagon. He hit a homer in his only at-bat of the game today.
Scheppers starting instructs game today.
about 22 hours ago from Echofon
@Spike_11 Rangers complex in Surprise. Just threw too scoreless. Filthy stuff.
about 20 hours ago from Echofon in reply to Spike_11
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Would it be "twitters" or tweets"
or are both correct?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
tweets
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Oct 9, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Shows what I know. I don't use Twitter, though I started following Jason's tweets when he went to Instructs.
Tweets is the correct word. I think twitters is funnier.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Either way
i doubt ill ever get onboard the twitter bandwagon. It is kind of cool to see other ppl “tweeting” ha
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Filthy stuff....
He was talking about Scheppers right?
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
Liking Evan Reed's shirt in pic 5
“The Future is Here”
We need to create a LSB shirt with that slogan on there
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
I'd like an LSB shirt that just said
“This”
With the quotes, logo on the other side. Just throwing it out there.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Im getting the feeling that if byrd isnt back
the players are going to get all pouty about it like when looch was traded.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
they're professionals making millions of dollars
get over it
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Yeah...
but these are some of the same guys who collapsed when a guy who was “good in the room” was gone.
I just see a lot of whining and regression if byrd isnt back and especially if rudy isnt
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
bringing Byrd back is not the answer to a playoff run
they said as much that pitching is the answer. I think we need to add a couple of bullpen arms…ie Grabow, Calero, Gonzalez. That is key imo. If we at least make some moves, then they can’t complain that we did nothing, and that is the complaint of 2004
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I wonder if that's what MY meant by
“The aftermath of ‘04 can’t happen here again. It’s time.”
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
These guys collapsed with Byrd "in the room" this season.
I don’t think it really matters. If they’re pros, they’ll understand it’s all part of the game and move on and continue to play up to their highest level.
If they really do collapse just because Marlon Byrd leaves, fuck ‘em. They don’t deserve to win.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by LSJ on Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i think we need to sign some FAs
we don’t need Byrd back but we need to at least show our team that we are trying to add pieces that will help us compete. You have mentioned Calero and Grabow as possible signings, and I think we start there. Then see what bat is available.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I start with the bat, myself
Nick Johnson would be at the top of my shopping list if we’re not gonna be in on Milton Bradley. In my mind, priortiy #1 should be turning this offense’s approach around again, and that starts with getting a patent bat in here to lead by example like Abreu did for the Angels.
I’d try to get Benoit back here over the offseason, we know him and he’ll be cheap since he’s coming off an injury. I’m not really crazy about handing out multiyear deals to releivers, so that would be more of a luxury item on my shopping list.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Nick Johnson would be great in the lineup
I wouldn’t mind going after him, but I think we really need more dependable relievers as well. As far as the rotation, I think Feliz, Holland, Hunter, Feldman and Millwood would be adequate, although I would also be interested in seeing what it would take to sign Justin Duchscherer. He could work out of the rotation or bullpen. He was great 2 years ago and hurt all last year, so I would assume his price is down.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I don't think
there is such a thing as acquiring a dependable reliever on the free agent market. Any reliever that is consistently reliable becomes a high dollar closer soon enough.
Reliever is about the last position I would look for a FA. I think realistically I’ll be happy if we get a big RH bat that can play DH/1B or DH/OF.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
They may not be too excited with JD, but they'll get after it again next year.
Everyone appears really focused on getting to the playoffs.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
If the Rangers
dont sign Byrd just wait for the inevitable “well if we had leadership like last year” columns or comments during a losing streak. If they are so concerned about that type of leadership, provide it yourself and stop looking to another.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Oct 9, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
They'll whine up to the point
the season starts, then if they start losing, they’ll whine more. If the team wins, you won’t hear a lot of whining.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Looch and Byrd
Maybe the players could take a look at Looch’s performance after he left and maybe, just maybe, they could see that FO might know a little more than them.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
MLBTR looks at RH power bats for Atlanta
Some interesting names on the list like Willingham, Konerko, Uggla…… Byrd and Cruz. :(
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
1st on the list..
Cruz. He better not be dealt, as they mentioned, we have control of Cruz until 2013. You don’t trade a player under control for 3 or 4 more years, cheaply i might add, for anything unless they blow you away.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
HOLEY CRAP
Vlad is a free agent? screw Byrd, bring that guy and his .400 career batting average in Arlington in here.
Even if he needs crutches to play the outfield……
Plus, he already fits with Rudy J’s batting philosophy. “See ball, hit ball” “See ball bounce, Hit ball anyway” “See ball thrown behind you, hit ball backhanded”
Vlad would NOT be in our OF.
Permanent DH.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Oct 9, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
all in all
I’d say there’s a fair amount of uncertainty with pretty much every player on that list. I think Byrd will have a lot of value on the open market. Also, if we do end up trading Cruz, (for whatever stupid reason), I think we could expect good value in return.
At least the origional author
didn’t put up some insanely low trade proposal in his AJC article.
What do voluntary mean?
So
if Atlanta is willing to trade Jair Jurrjens then do you consider Nelly for Jurrjens?
I don’t trade Nelly since he was our best OF this year but Jurrjens had a really nice season too.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
I'd consider it
probably wouldn’t do it though. I think we have enough young pitching depth to deal with, and I don’t think hes profiling as a top pitcher, just as a good midrotation guy.
What do voluntary mean?
I would be for trading Cruz to Atlanta
if we got to rape their farm system again
by BEW on Oct 9, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
this time we can take
tommy hanson. i’m for that!! lol
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Hey im down for that
Lets go ahead and relieve them of heyward too
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
Heyward
Probably the one non-Ranger in the minors that I’m really excited to see in the majors
Thank God he’s in the NL though
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
me too on Heyward
Mike Stanton as well.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Problems against lefties
Name 2009 against lefties OPS diff. 2008 against lefties
Kinsler .310/.366/.646 .197 .281/.347/.481 .064—-
Young .297/.375/.480 -.040 .305/.365/.477 .101
Jones .218/.367/.395 -.020 -
Andrus .279/.373/.388 .059 -—
Cruz .235/.310/.432 -.104 .419/.514/.774 .258
Byrd .244/.293/.451 -.064 .277/.359/.482 -.001
maybe what’s missing is Bradley’s > 1.000 OPS vs lefties in 2009.
Byrd has shown that he’s not a lefty masher , also true of Kinsler
Cruz and MY had anomolous years it seems (though you’d have to look at Cruz’s
minor league splits to be sure).
So, while Byrd makes a great full time hitter, he’s kinda miscast as a lefty masher, and with the Rangers outfield in 2010, he might want greener pastures.
Ira
You know what you didn't hear in that chat?
How important Blalock was to the team and how he had to be re-signed.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
it didnt need to be said, everyone knows he's carrying this thing
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
don't bring up the fans
Evan: Why does 30-30 make it a great year? Because it demonstrates both power and speed?
Byrd: You just answered your own question. (Right Mr. Clubhouse, personal numbers are all that matter.)
Young: And that he was on the field. (Better answer.)
Evan: Kins, what do you have to work on?
Young: His cleats. Mizuno. Tired. (MY trying to be funny.)
Kinsler: Just staying most consistent with everything. Try to get to Mike’s level. (Best answer you have given all year.)
Evan: How do you answer the “his upper-cut became too exaggerated” chatter?
Young: Chatter from who?
Byrd: The scouts?
Evan: The chatter was from fans. And even fans know they can knee-jerk on occasion. But I think even us in the media thought that there were more pop-flies than either of the last two years. (Uh-oh. Evan mentioned the fans.)
Kinsler: I was thinking of taking cricket lessons this off season. (The fans, I must be funny now.)
Evan: Cricket or Croquet?
Young: Evan, do you really want to have a hitting conversation? (No Mike. The fans want an answer to the question.)
Kinsler: Try walking in my Mizunos (Kins trying to be funny again.)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
i love how it's
even us in the media thought that there were more pop-flies
even the media eh? well, i don’t think fans, at least some of the knowledgeable around here were using just their eyes to tell the story, although much can be seen just by watching the game (i feel like that is something yogi berra would say :P). The numbers back it up that he was a popup crazy hitter with his FB%, GB%, and LD% comparisons from the previous year.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think EG was just trying to soft sell is question a little bit in the hopes that Kins
would answer him if it was rephrased.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
interesting note
per mlbtr….keep in my, it’s jon heyman saying this
John Lackey wants A.J. Burnett money ($82.5MM over five years) and the Angels aren’t confident about re-signing him.
Although it does mention Kazmir replacing Lackey in the rotation, I would love to see Guerrero go elsewhere along with Figgins and Abreu.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
They'd still win 120 games.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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