Wednesday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2009 8:27 AM CST
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We have some reactions this morning to Clint Hurdle being named the new hitting coach...
Anthony Andro has a story up with some quotes from Michael Young, Ian Kinsler, and Chris Davis. Young says that the offense just needs to improve its execution, and that they need to be an aggressive team without being a hacking team.
Richard Durrett also has quotes from Young and Kinsler, with Young disputing the idea that the Ranger offense needs more of a team-first approach.
Durrett also runs down a plethora of hirings in baseball operations.
Jeff Wilson writes from the GM meetings about how the ownership situation is affecting the Rangers' dealings, and discusses the Rangers' interest in Milton Bradley, Javier Vasquez, and Garrett Atkins (who is likely going to be non-tendered).
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So if we managed to land all three of those players without giving up Feliz/Perez/Smoak/Holland/Scheppers
Would that be a successful off-season?
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by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 8:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
or what if we just land bradley
which i think is more realistic
by ab03 on Nov 11, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of Atkins
here as bench guy.
i’m not a fan of Vasquez. He was great last year, but it’s the NL. It’s a different animal without that free out.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 11, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are the splits on Atkins and do we have a good platoon partner for him on the roster now?
If Bradley can behave himself under the tutelage of Warsh and by hanging out with his old pals Josh and Ian, and we can get the deal done without giving up a notable prospect, that’s my first choice. But if not, I’m open to considering Atkins as Plan B.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Atkins has an 870 OPS against lefties
790 vs righties. If we get Bradley, we’ll need a backup plan on our roster due to injuries etc. Atkins could be that guy. He would be a nice bat off the bench.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 11, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Atkins
He’s a decent insurance policy for Davis at 1B — you could use him to spell Davis against certain lefties, let him fill in for Young at 3B every now and then, DH when Bradley has an owie.
If you’re getting him as a bench guy, I think he has value.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's my assessment too
Of course, the success of such a plan hinges on a manager properly using his bench. Hopefully, with no Marlon Byrd to play every single day regardless of the circumstances or situation, he’ll do a better job of utilizing his resources.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wash might be forced to play Cruz everyday.
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Nov 11, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The horror!
I’m not sure how Wash will be able to handle that.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but Wilson’s article says he stands to make about $7M in 2010. That’s a hell of a lot to play for a bench guy.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 11, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a non-tender guy
They’d sign him once Colorado non-tenders him.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I know
I guess I was more trying to point out that Wilson’s line was kind of irrelevant.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 11, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not irrelevant
it’s part of the reason why the Rockies would non-tender him
by MikeEl on Nov 11, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok fine
It seemed to me he was referring to the Rangers when he mentioned Atkins’ potential salary. Screw me.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 11, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would he sign for $1M-2M?
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Nov 11, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no way he gets more that 2-3M
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this idea
He seems like a perfect fit here. Plus, he seems like a great rebound candidate. Maybe not back to where he was a few years ago but at least where he was in 08.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 11, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the idea of Atkins
I think he’s on the Hank Blalock career trajectory and his poor performance is one of the reasons Hurdle ended up getting fired last year.
by MikeEl on Nov 11, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vazquez
I still don’t understand why he’s being mentioned so prominently as a Ranger trade target.
He’s had a no-trade clause to any AL & NL West teams since he joined the White Sox, and the last time he was traded to a West club, he demanded a trade as soon as he could. This just doesn’t strike me as a guy who has any interest in playing for a Western division club in either league.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Nov 11, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vasquez has been solid since leaving the Yankees five years ago.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Nov 11, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Milton and Atkins
should theoretically not cost more than Millwood’s final year and some FA $. But Vasquez seems likely to carry a significant cost.
Can we even trade Scheppers this offseason?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just threw him in there to complete my list of prospects I consider untouchable
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Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kudos
on going to the Rockets blog this morning and calling out their ridic prediction that Chuck Hayes would go off on Damp before last night’s game.
My question for today: Are Dampier and Millwood pretty much equivalent? The only difference I can see is the Rangers didn’t let the most talented player in the history of their franchise walk (and justify it as a financial decision) before signing Millwood.
But still, very similar in terms of the vitriol that fans spew at them compared to their actual value as slightly better than league average players.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nash
won’t get any support from me for bashing that move. nash got ridiculously good (and healthy) when he went to the suns and i dare you to find people that thought he would be that good (and healthy) for this long.
and center for the mavs is a different animal than projected TOS for the Rangers. Center in the NBA in general is kind of a weird position with the dearth of good true centers.
by ab03 on Nov 11, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I mostly agree on Nash
and honestly, the Suns have an amazing training staff, so he probably doesn’t stay this healthy (and therefore this effective) for as long here.
But I don’t completely agree on that last part. I think true impact NBA centers and MLB TOS are similar animals. Out of curiosity, have you picked up Bill Simmons’ Book of Basketball yet? I am only about 230 pages in, but it is a pretty good read despite his Celtic bias.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
Will Carroll called out Josey Wales.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
by cmkelly29 on Nov 11, 2009 8:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
Per the issue that Will Carroll called me out on…he’s a dumbass.
If you disagree, show your work.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 11, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA
Per the issue that Will Carroll called me out on…he’s a dumbass.
What an idiot, Josey is.
by FuturePants on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm disagree
and here’s my work:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/Josey%20Wales
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
by cmkelly29 on Nov 11, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*I disagree
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
by cmkelly29 on Nov 11, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me respond with equal work to what you have shown.
you’re a dumbass.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Nov 11, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
btw
who sent wc the link of jw’s original comment?
usa
by Longhorn on Nov 11, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was in yesterday' am thread. It started when bigsteve started talking about what Tampa would ask for Carl Crawford...
“I wouldn’t mind exploring what Tampa would be asking for Carl Crawford personally. Hes a FA after this year which means Tampa probably is going to look into trading him. Trading Crawford for Cruz would allow them to play Desmond Jennings in LF and also upgrade their RF situation with Cruz replacing Gross and Kapler.
It would allow us to take a little extra time making a decision on Borbon. Either sign a Mike Cameron or resign Byrd to play CF, Murphy is your 4th OF, and Borbon goes back to OKC to start the year. If we resign Crawford next winter great. If we fall out of the race this year we can trade him at the deadline. If we can’t resign him we get picks back.
As for what it would take i don’t know. Maybe Cruz + Main + a lower level high upside arm? I don’t really know to be honest but i think we should kick the tires on it"
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 10, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For Cruz, I’m asking Tampa to kick in another high quality
arm to go along with Crawford.
“Dying ain’t hard. It’s living that’s hard.”
“Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal”
by Josey Wales on Nov 10, 2009 2:16 PM EST up rep
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 11, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the question was
Who sent Will the original comment, not what the actual comment was…
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Nov 11, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RC Cook is proof
that some of my Elephant Boys actually serve a nice purpose.
Thank you for your work this morning, RC.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
You wouldn’t need so many Elephant Boys if you didn’t spew so much shit.
Not that it’s my job, anyway. My reputation as a poster was well-established long before you ever showed up to foul the cage.
I’ll tell Will you said “Hi.”
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Nov 11, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your rep as a poster is that you're one of the many
mindless cheerleaders of the Rangers who doesn’t want to hear honest criticism of the team. You were a perfect fit at NMLR.
Give Will my best but tell him on this particular issue, he’s a dumbass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
There’s a difference between being an honest critic of the team, and being the guy who takes joy in pissing in everyone’s Cheerios based on half-assed assertions, and acting like you’re some kind of visionary for it.
You seem to be confused as to which one you are.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Nov 11, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Josey
for what it’s worth, I agree with you that more than Cruz is silly to pay for Crawford, and even Cruz for Crawford straight up isn’t obvious deal I’d want as a Ranger fan.
That said, just enjoy the fact that you’re in the spotlight. It’s funny, laugh a little. “No publicity is bad publicity;” remember?
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Nov 11, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Will is going to bust my balls for saying something deadwrong
he should reference my take that Tiny E was going to be a fucking disaster or that the Rangers were only going to win 73 games in 2008.
The problem with that is that BP agreed with me on both counts.
Coming after me for saying the Rangers should have the Rays kick in something else if we’re getting one year of Carl Crawford at $ 10 million for four years of Nelson Cruz shows that on some issues, Will has his head up his ass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 11, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Saying that "BP agreed with me" makes me wonder if you actually read BP
The views of the BP writers differ greatly. PECOTA agreed with you, and was terribly wrong. PECOTA is a computer algorithm designed by Nate Silver, who bases all his arguments purely on the numbers. Carroll, Kevin Goldstein, and other BP writers have different perspectives.
Goldstein talks all the time about what scouts tell him. So by your logic, Goldstein basing an opinion on what a scout says means that “BP agrees with Scout X on Player Y.” Which, if you read BP at all, you would know is not the case whatsoever.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my guess
Will was looking to write that post about silly trade rumors, figured that a fan blog is as good a place as any to find some, and came to LSB. But since the Cruz + Main + other arm for Crawford is an equally silly proposition, I think that Carroll knows who JW is.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Nov 11, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is Kinsler
acknowledging that he needs to be better?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 11, 2009 8:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought this was funny
January 5-15: Salary Aribtration Filing.
This is where Felix Hernandez will ask for the deed to the state of Washington in exchange for his services in 2010. The Mariners will counter by offering free dinner at the Space Needle. Arguing will ensue.
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
heh
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this too:
November 20: Free Agency Begins
The exclusive negotiating window for teams to retain their own players ends, and players who have filed for free agency become eligible to sign with the Yankees.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 11, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From Tim Brown at Yahoo
Texas Rangers
They had money issues, yet hung around until the deadline. GM Jon Daniels could deal from strength – his pitching depth – to add a middle-of-the-order bat, then acquire Halladay to cover for the lost pitching. They’re still talking payroll limitations, and getting both a run producer and Halladay would cost them plenty in prospects, but the division appears ripe for a bold move by one of the teams beneath the Angels.
by ramjam36 on Nov 11, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm down with that
but the first prospect that gets traded will have this site in uproar
by MikeEl on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sooner or later
you have to turn prospects into quality big leaguers, and how that is done is what usually makes or breaks a GM. I’m certainly guilty of falling in love with our prospects, but if the right deal is there, you have to strike.
by ramjam36 on Nov 11, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still that middle of the order bat and Halladay will want their paychecks
Not sure where that comes from.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Nov 11, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pitching depth
Just like they had depth at catcher last off season.
|Space for Rent|
by RangerMad on Nov 11, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
let's take advantage this time around
am i right?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you are,
just as long as the core of that pitching doesn’t get traded.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you can get decent return for McCarthy, you do it.
I just think there is no way that’s possible.
by FuturePants on Nov 11, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess my problem this year
is in trying to determine what this team really needs in a trade. There are plausable internal options at almost every position of need.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They need the OBP monster to stick
in the middle of the lineup and quantum internal improvement from the Dutch Oven, CD and Josh.
Nelson Cruz needs to learn how to hit LHs in The Show and either Max or Smoak needs to surprise everybody and be ready to contribute significantly to the big club in 2010.
They need to shit-can Marlon Byrd, let Boggs become a part of the OF Quartet and bring in a couple of arms for the bully.
The GM needs to quit living off what he did in 2007 and bring in the OBP monster and the bullpen arms.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 11, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remind me again
If Cruz can’t hit LH pitching in The Show, why would any team be interested in trading a superstar player for a platoon player with shitty defense?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 11, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm interested to hear the answer to this
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're not
The most important goal this offseason should be to go into next season with the best possible team. That means that there is no reason to look to trade away pitching depth just because you’re concerned that they’ll fail. Just like with our catchers last season, its more important for the Rangers to find out what they have and if there is a long-term option here as opposed to getting a mediocre return in a trade. The deals last season was something like Bowden+ for Salty/Teagarden with Bard possibly being that + (though it was never really clarified). If that is the kind of mediocre return we can get for our pitching depth, then its trading for the sake of trading.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 11, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of that
I was thinking about it again, and is there any chance a Bowden for Teagarden deal still makes sense? I would rather go in to next year with one young C to pair with Pudge, so someone’s gotta go.
Bowden struggled upon being called up, and we already have a glut of potential LAIE, but for some reason I’ve always liked Bowden.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh on Bowden
He can’t K anyone and at best he’s Tommy Hunter.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
there is nothing rational about my opinion of him. Ever since he dominated in Lancaster, I’ve had a prospect crush. But seeing as how he seems to always be in trade rumors and we have had multiple chances to trade for him, I am starting to think the FO doesn’t share my opinion.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We don't need another back-end of the roto guy
with B-Mac, Hunter, Harrison, Poveda and Moscoso all in the MLB or AAA.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 11, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If all he costs is TT...
I’d do it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably could still get that done
Or something that sees Teagarden go and Bowden coming back. I just don’t think that really fits the team’s current needs.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 11, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know...
what happened to Atkins last year? Was he fighting off injuries or did he just suck? If he comes close to what he did in ’05 – ’08 he would be a huge boost for this team. However last year he was just horrible.
Certainly a good risk at 2-3 mil as a backup 1B/3B and DH option against lefties though. I’m interested.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2009 10:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
he has been sucking the last couple of years.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...
no he really hasn’t.
’06 – .329 / .409 / .556
’07 – .301 / .367 / .486
’08 – .286 / .328 / .452
’09 – .226 / .308 / .342
Now he certainly isn’t headed in the right direction, but he wasn’t bad in ‘08 and was pretty damn good in ’06 and ’07. Again, as a RH bat to backup 1B/3B and DH against lefties I think he’d be a pretty good risk at 2-3 mil.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if I recall correctly
Atkins sucked for a large chunk of ’08 too, and only pulled out of a slump to put up decent numbers the last half of the season. They thought he would do he same thing last year, but he never pulled out.
by MikeEl on Nov 11, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he has been declining since 06,
not the type of bat I would be picking up for 2-3 mil. Save that and put it towards a better option.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Nov 11, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm open to suggestions...
for better options that may be available, that the Rangers can afford of course.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You want a 4C guy with a .780 OPS?
Good luck with all that. He sucked in ‘08. He sucked in ’09. And he’s a massive risk as anything other than a cheap reclamation project in ’10.
by JDT217 on Nov 11, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That '08 line
It was with him playing half his games in Coors Field.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 11, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure...
all those lines were with him playing half his games at Coors.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 11, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So basically her went from good to meh to bleh?
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 11, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he and Russell Martin were hurt very badley by drug testing
by tyd3311 on Nov 12, 2009 8:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Nov 12, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BABIP of .246 last season
His HR/FB ratio also was only 7.3% even though he plays half his games at Coors. The LD rate is really the only beneath the surface stat last season that was worse than previous years. It also looks like he had some problems in getting down in the count early and possibly taking more strikes than usual. He looks like a solid bounce back candidate and he does have experience working with Hurdle though not as a hitting coach.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 11, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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@npbtracker Matsui Interest From Angels, Red Sox: The Hideki Matsui hot stove is warming up. Let’s see what the Japan.. http://bit.ly/1hIa3b
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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 11, 2009 10:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good to see
FFace is showing his true leadership by sticking to his guns and paraphrasing his old “It’s not a lack of patience, it’s a lack of energy” as the problem.
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by DJCahill on Nov 11, 2009 12:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
is anyone else mildly interested
in bringing in Austin Kearns on an NRI? Texas kid who can play defense and could end up being a decent platoon option if he hits in AAA.
Also, any thoughts on LHPs Noah Lowry or Chris Capuano? Neither have pitched at the ML level over the past two years, but Lowry is a guy we’ve been rumored to have interest in and Capuano has a relationship with Maddux. I would be interested in either as an NRI.
And yes, when you’re a Rangers fan you have to skip past the FA rumors and go directly to NRI options.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Nov 11, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd be most interested in bringing Kearns here
but I could see giving Capuano a chance to see if he has anything left. But only as a AAA reinforcement, I don’t want another case of Kris Benson.
by MikeEl on Nov 11, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be fine with Kearns as a NRI
why not?
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by Dirk Diggler on Nov 11, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kearns
Probably isn’t much different than what Brandon Boggs will give you, and he can’t play CF (well, shouldn’t, anyway).
I guess extra insurance to stash at AAA can’t hurt, though.
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by lonestarJon on Nov 11, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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