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Thursday a.m. Rangers things

Jeff Wilson has a story up in the S-T today about the Rangers' changing perception around baseball, with other teams seeing them as a team on the rise rather than a team trying to sell off its best players to rebuild.

Wilson also writes that the Rangers have no interest in a Kevin Millwood for Milton Bradley deal.  I have no idea why anyone would think the Rangers would do that, or why it seemed there were Rangers fans who were in favor of such a deal, unless people were just so tired of seeing Millwood out there that they didn't care what the return was, as long as the Rangers dumped him.  But Bradley is owed around twice what Millwood is owed, while dealing Millwood would open up a hole in the rotation that you'd have to fill somehow.

Richard Durrett runs through the plusses and minuses of bringing Bradley back.

T.R. Sullivan has a mailbag up, discussing Marlon Byrd and Mike Cameron as potential centerfield options (and saying it will likely take a 3 year, $18-24 million deal to bring Byrd back), Nelson Cruz in 2010, potential interest in Vlad Guerrero, and the impact of a hitting coach, among other things.

Joel Sherman of the NY Post says that the Rangers are working on a budget approved by MLB, and they have to get MLB's permission to exceed that budgeted amount.  Yay, Tom Hicks!

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Agreed

After years of complaining about never trading away pitching, we are ready to trade one of our most reliable starters in exchange for a DH who might play 120 games if he feels like it.

"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 12, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

if Borbon is your DH

he might as well be in AAA playing CF. this is ridiculously F’n stupid

Right now, with Byrd having declared free agency, Cruz is the Rangers’ starting right fielder with Josh Hamilton in center, David Murphy in left and Julio Borbon as the designated hitter.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

Hamilton

Really doubt he’s the primary CF in 2010…

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully

Borbon is getting plenty of reps at DH in the winter league so he’ll be ready to go next season.

by shroomer on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

i hear the winter leagues

are really great at preparing those lucky few DHs for the gaps between their ABs. They use great stretching techniques and tequila. I just hope he’s allowed to use those methods once the season starts or else I don’t know what he’ll do.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Quite possibly one of the dumbest decisions the team could make if this comes true

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Nov 12, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Well it is TR

There’s a great chance its just BS based on seniority.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Nov 12, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

It’s often difficult to tell the difference between TR’s opinions and the opinions of the organization. Then again, I may just think that now because of how wrong TR was about the team’s interest in Milton Bradley.

by cstorm15 on Nov 12, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

It is probably based on the fact that...

…these are the guys under contract or team control right now.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 12, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

But...

….wasn’t it like 3 days ago that the team announced that Hamilton would be playing Right or DH and not CF next year? It’s absurd to take that information and interpret it as “what they meant was Hamilton at CF, Borbon at DH.” That’s retarded.

by FuturePants on Nov 12, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

and we're rumored to be after a guy like Dye

to be the DH as well. Is he supposed to split time with Borbon while Murphy plays every day in the field

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I like this comment from some moron on the Rangers website:
Lloyd4: I know this Byrd Guy is just a Bum , Looking for a Free ride , can’t Hit - Doesn’t Hussle - has no Heart at All -- Doesn’t Speak to anyone in the locker room -- Just a Bum . I believe I’ll just Pass . Maybe we should go after Norm Hisgus ,if we pay him enough he might come to Texas . What do Ya’ll Think ????

I have a headache now.

Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."

by Pocket Ninja on Nov 12, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Wow.

I don’t even know where to start with that.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I think for him...

…it starts and end with the shift key.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 12, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

What is it with capitalizing random words

and spouting dumb ideas?

It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.

by WyoRanger on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Failure to pass English class + alcohol

"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."

- Wails

by RCCook on Nov 12, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

If we give Byrd 3 years and $18 million I will hurl

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Nov 12, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

Omar isnt coming back because he does not want toi play for a mediocre manager.
He misused him several times, such as pinch hitting fat boy Jones after he had already had two hits. He wants to play for a team that has a manager capable of taking a team to the World Series.

by txmemaw17 on Nov 12, 2009 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

If he wants a ring

 you will likely see him go to either the Red Sox or Yankees. If he just wants away from Washington then you will see him go to almost any team. I personally expect him to go to one of the big boys.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Nov 12, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Stick around

*Ahnold voice *

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by inactive lsb user on Nov 12, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

has anybody seen the movie

“Sugar” yet?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Nov 12, 2009 10:15 AM CST reply actions  

Yes

someone has.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 12, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

thank you

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Nov 12, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

actually saw it on a plane flight

I liked it

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

I’ve watched it too. Good flick that made me laugh. One of Will Ferrell’s better movies imo.

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Nov 12, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Didnt it absolutely bomb in the theaters?

"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto

by Michael Cave on Nov 12, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

it got panned hard

However, I saw the last halh and actually laughed pretty hard, and I was barely stoned at the time. I wouldn’t rec it because the story is pretty unbelievable, but if you’re my age (see old as fuck), you’ll remember little things from the series which makes it watchable. Also, Ferrell is a funny guy to me – “I love you Blue!”

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by Parman on Nov 12, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Saw it.

Basic storytelling, nothing with cinematography that I remember.

It’s in the context of minor league baseball, but not about stats and winning, more a human story in sports flick drag.

And the story comes off as authentic. No impression of a lack of research. That part appealed…I had the impression this is what, say, Rainer Bermudez’ life looked like over the last two years, going from DSL to the States.

I’d rate it 3/5 on netflix.

You might know the directors’ previous movie, Half Nelson.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 12, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Half Nelson was excellent

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Nov 12, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be foolish to trade Millwood

who was top 20 in innings pitched and in the top 10 in e.r.a. for Bradley? The Cubs are the motivated seller here and the Rangers should treat them as such…if they don’t sell low, get another bat elsewhere…Bradley is not the only player available.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 12, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Exactly

And thats what the footnote at the bottom of the article said. We have no interest in a Bradley for Millwood deal. Not that we don’t have interest in bottom fishing Bradley.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Nov 12, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Again

no quotes from Nolan Ryan in the DMN and lots of stuff from JD.

The quotes from Cashman & Reagins seem to be a little condescending to me.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Nov 12, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

NY Post

So MLB has a salary cap, but it only applies to the Rangers. Awesome.

by Neftali's arm on Nov 12, 2009 12:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

KLAW

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/29344/mlb-insider-keith-law

Matt (Jersey)
Klaw, what type of deal do you think Sheets should/will get? Would you take a flier on him?

Klaw (1:20 PM)
Absolutely. I think I’d even be willing to guarantee a good chunk of the deal. My theory on Sheets is that the full year off has probably given his body an unprecedented (for him) chance to heal, since he’s had a lot of annoying-to-worse non-arm injuries since his last 200-inning season. All of this is in my free agent capsule on Sheets – I filed them before vacation so they could go up any day now.

With this one…

Jennifer (Philly)
Do you think there is any chance that Jamie Moyer will retire, and the Phils save 6 million on him?

Klaw (2:06 PM)
I doubt it. But they could approach him about a buyout if he’s on the fence.

…what benefit does a player get from a buyout? Can’t he just show up and play, await getting cut, and come away with the $6m he’s guaranteed? I’d think the difference in salary is worth any indignity from the process.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 12, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

besides

he’ll probably end up going back to Seattle for one more year before he retires for good.

by MikeEl on Nov 12, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt there are many folks

“classy” enough to walk away from $6 million.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Nov 12, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

if you're already a multi-millionare

is money really still the most important thing in your life? Maybe he wants to spend time with his family or just not want his are not to feel like shit day in / day out…

by MikeEl on Nov 12, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He has made ~$50M in his career.

It might be worth $3M to him to not have to workout and get ready for ST if he wants to retire.

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Nov 12, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt it.

I heard some folks say the same dumbassness about how Greer would retire instead of taking the money. As I suspected, he didn’t.

Most folks I know who have millions still want more. Especially when, like Jamie, you are contractually entitled to it. I assume the MLBPA would actually have a big problem if he didn’t take it.

As Adam said, $3 million is still another 1000 hours of $300 an hour hookers.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Nov 13, 2009 4:44 AM CST up reply actions  

:) nice

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

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