John Wetteland: apparent suicide attempt
by Jamey Newberg on Nov 12, 2009 4:20 PM CST
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Story just broke on the Ticket that a call was made from John Wetteland's Argyle, Texas home to the police at abotu 12:30 this afternoon, with a suicide threat. Police reportedly surrounded his house and he came out, hands up, and said "I need help."
Story just broke on the Ticket that a call was made from John Wetteland's Argyle, Texas home to the police at abotu 12:30 this afternoon, with a suicide threat. Police reportedly surrounded his house and he came out, hands up, and said "I need help."
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wow
is he still the bullpen coach for the Mariners?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 4:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nope
He is actually one of the baseball coaches for the HS i went to. Then it was Denton Liberty Christian, it since relocated to Argyle.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
he USED to be at Liberty, sorry
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 12, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
I hope for he gets the help he needs.
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by rentz on Nov 12, 2009 4:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
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by Escher on Nov 12, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Scary
This coming just a couple days after Robert Enke, goalkeeper for Hannover 96 and the German national team, threw himself in front of a train.
Looks like Wetteland realized he needed help- hopefully he’ll be OK.
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by RCCook on Nov 12, 2009 4:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Enke Was My First Thought, Too
Without getting into all the ways it is horrendous and hopefully without trivializing it too much, depression’s a bitch.
by Mister Naxal on Nov 12, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The backstory regarding Enke's depression is pretty heart-breaking
by LiamP on Nov 12, 2009 6:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Reading about his 2 year old daughter who passed away hurt me, a complete stranger from another culture. Some things transcend boundaries and losing a child is one of them.
I can’t even fathom the hell he must have been locked by his depression.
I hope that John gets the kind of help and support he needs to battle this and come out on top.
by Mister Naxal on Nov 12, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dang ol'
I remember being a kid and him coming to my elementary school when he was still an LA Dodger and how nice and friendly he was. I was super pumped when he signed with the Rangers about 7 years after that.
I hope he gets things worked out.
by ghostofErikThompson on Nov 12, 2009 5:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
bizarre
guess we just really don’t know a player from afar.
not to move this topic to someone who everybody hates but now that it’s been a while, do people really think TO tried to kill himself?
by ab03 on Nov 12, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
no
but it wouldn’t surprise me
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by Walter Sobchak on Nov 13, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the positive
He recognized he had a problem, and he made a cry for help instead of jumping to the obvious step as so many do.
If you want some thoughts on suicide and you want to try and find the “why”, I reccomend watching the movie The Bridge, which is a documentary of the golden gate bridge, and the record number of suicides that happen there…
Thoughts and prayers go for John.
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by PM Productions on Nov 12, 2009 6:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Seen it
Heartbreaking, enlightening and creepy all at the same time.
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by Suicide Prince on Nov 13, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope he gets to feeling better soon.
by Black Francis on Nov 12, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Geez man
he doesn’t have a cold. Doesn’t sound like the kind of illness where he can take some NyQuil and wake up all refreshed.
by robert_d_wilfong on Nov 13, 2009 1:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoah.
I knew watching the Seattle offense every day sucked, but man…
In all seriousness, here’s hoping he gets the help he needs to get straightened out.
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by lonestarJon on Nov 12, 2009 6:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is probably a topic that you should refrain from.
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by Chase Irwin on Nov 12, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What
I can’t make playing in Seattle wisecracks just because the guy actually has a problem?
It’s a sad story, but fuck, oversensitive much?
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 12, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Oversensitve much"
That’s not a word. Next time stick with GIFs.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 12, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
daily reader, lurker for the most part
I am not a lonestrajon hater, I like the perspective you bring. But you’ve stepped in it here, and the worst thing you can make after a mistake is an excuse. Just say you were wrong or move on, but please don’t make a bigger mistake by defending it.
by BrentTaylor21 on Nov 12, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Understood
But I don’t see where I did anything wrong here. I’ll defend myself when I think I’m right, and all I was doing was trying to add a little levity to a situation where there’s really not much you can do but say “gee, that sucks, hope he gets better” and move on.
Perhaps this isn’t an issue I should be trying to defend however, as that seems to be a taboo thing with some people, so I’ll leave it at that.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 12, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did you council Arod
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oops *counsel
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is this a reference to
“the worst thing you can make after a mistake is an excuse”? If Arod said it, he also got it from Rod Smith, the great wr for the Broncos. It was a quote attributed to him in an ESPN the Magazine piece on him YEARS ago, it has always stuck with me for whatever reason. I think it is because our natural inclination seems to be to do the opposite. See Wales, Josey.
by BrentTaylor21 on Nov 12, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
76 comments
and all the sudden you’re the moderator of what comments are okay and what comments aren’t okay?
LSJ didn’t say anything wrong at all. Please go back to just reading this blog instead of actually posting here. That was a better time, when I wasn’t aware of your presence on this earth.
by Agreen07 on Nov 12, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no. lsj was wrong
and doesn’t matter how many comments you make, nobody’s going to listen to you
by ab03 on Nov 12, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
Not really sure how my comment could be interpreted as appointing myself as the pc czar, but whatever. My hope is that one day I’ll have enough comments on lonestarball.com to have my thoughts/opinions actually considered on their merits. This notion that one needs X number of comments to have valid thoughts or to be an actual fan is pretty dumb.
by BrentTaylor21 on Nov 12, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think it's really about the actual # of comments
As much as it is the fact that a lot of of new commenters who have shown up over the past year or so have been largely… subpar. Not that we don’t have a fair share of subpar veteran commenters too, but anyone who might be looked upon as a noob is kind of particularly looked upon with suspicion these days.
I agree with you though, comment totals shouldn’t be looked upon with that much meaning though. Shit, if that’s the criteria, that would make me LSB’s best poster, which certainly isn’t the case.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 12, 2009 11:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you
But reading his comment, that actually seems to be his point. I created this profile over a year ago, read this blog on a regular basis long before that. I’m not some dmn commenter who came over here after posting vlad > dunn. I feel silly even having to substantiate my opinion. I’m sure there are many people who read but don’t comment because of cheap shit like this. Its fucking sad.
by BrentTaylor21 on Nov 12, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is sad...
I think you should cry about it.
by Agreen07 on Nov 13, 2009 7:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His number of comments
has nothing to do with your idiotic post.
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by Dirk Diggler on Nov 13, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lsj, really?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 12, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Serious topics are not a lsj strong point
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 12, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
LSJ isn’t going to thrill you with his command of the English language or his knowledge of baseball. But he makes up for those shortcomings by excelling in dinosaur GIFs and adolescent overreaction. He’s my second favorite poster on this board.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Behind who, Josey?
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by WestTxAg06 on Nov 13, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josey
He’s a pain in the ass to read. I feel sorry for him, actually. He must be a lonely guy. I bet he has pictures of Mark Teixeira up in his house much like teenaged girls with Tiger Beat centerfolds of the Jonas Brothers.
My favorite poster is OC. His posts make me laugh. He knows how and when to use a GIF. LSJ makes me laugh for a completely different reason. I’ve become more of a reader than a poster. I guess I took too many things personally and I let it bother me. I’ve been out of the loop a bit but I’m back now.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, I thought it was oc... before I read this
Now I know
by tyd3311 on Nov 13, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The key to LSB is not taking things personally, that's for sure
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Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Nov 14, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You stay classy, San Diego.
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by coolaid on Nov 13, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From ESPN
Wetteland hospitalized in TexasComment Email Print Share ESPN.com news services
Mariners bullpen coach and former Rangers pitcher John Wetteland was hospitalized on Thursday afternoon for what officials called mental health issues.
A woman at Wetteland’s home in Texas called for help for a possibly suicidal person, according to the Denton County Sheriff’s office.
“She said he was complaining of being depressed and contemplating suicide,” Sgt. Roger Griggs said.
Police said Wetteland came out of the house with his hands in the air and asked for help.
Mariners officials told MLB.com that the organization was still gathering information and had no further comment.
Wetteland spent 12 seasons as a pitcher in the major leagues, retiring in 2000 with the Rangers. He was named the World Series MVP in 1996 with the New York Yankees. He has been the bullpen coach for the Mariners since December 2008.
by Sonny Koufax on Nov 12, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
bummer
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5th inning against the Tigers
by gossamer on Nov 12, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
he always seemed like one of the more stable players when he was active, grounded and all that. Hope he gets well asap.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Nov 12, 2009 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Some "great" news
@Evan_P_Grant Wetteland back at home. Cause of distress call was high blood pressure, elevated heart rate. http://bit.ly/1FZucZ
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by Kinslerhomer on Nov 12, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
I wonder how the suicide thing got reported?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Nov 13, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then why does it say mental health issues...
in the previous report?
by venturafearsnolan on Nov 13, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
THe phrase
“I need help” probably is what got people freaked out.
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by FirebatM3 on Nov 13, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The police say
the call was suicide-related and Wetteland received psychiatric care. The Mariners released a statement saying the whole deal was caused by Wetteland not taking his blood pressure meds and their was no threat of suicide.
Sounds like the Mariners are trying to sweep this thing under the rug, or at least thats how I interpreted the report.
by ncrangerfan on Nov 13, 2009 7:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I agree that I believe there is a PR spin here….actually I have no doubt about that.
I really liked Wetteland, but:
1) I don’t know if there are too many 911 calls made due to high blood pressure issues, unless the person has a stroke, etc.
2) I don’t believe that the Denton County Sheriff’s Department usually “surround” a house because of a high blood pressure call.
3) I don’t believe that if you really needed help due to high blood pressure, that when you come out of the house with your hands up stating “I need help”, that you are saying to law enforcement who is surrounding your house, “Thanks for coming. Let me put my hands in the air and let you know that I need help because: 1) I didn’t take my blood pressure medicine; 2) I can’t find my blood pressure medicine.”
Obviously, something happened and that female that made that call did exactly the right thing. I believe she may have saved a life today. Apparently, he needed help and she recognized it….and didn’t wait and blow it off.
I don’t care what the Mariners want to say.
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by Chaim Witz on Nov 13, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all this, however one thing has me stumped..
Denton Regional does not have a Psych Unit….if this were a mental health distress call he would’ve been taken to a hospital that does.
Who knows what’s going on, whatever it is I’m glad Wetteland is okay and that he continues to get whatever help he needs.
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by Ryin A on Nov 13, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No Spin
I am not an expert by any means but how many people who get taken into custody by law enforcement and sent to a mental health facility are home 24 hours later? If there really was an issue wouldn’t it stand to reason that they would hold him longer that that?
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by DaheelzCM on Nov 14, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
on mental health calls
there is a thing called a “24 hour” hold…the doc holds you for 24 hrs, makes sure you are not a harm to yourself or others, then lets you go.
However, I have never seen one last exactly 24 hours. Typically the patient has to sign a release form and then they go on the 24 hour hold….The patient typically doesn’t sign the release until after they’ve been at the hospital awhile and have gone through a bunch of assessments from various docs, nurses, and qualified mental health professionals.
Not certain if this is 100% gospel but it’s how we roll at the mental health hospital I work at.
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by Ryin A on Nov 14, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To this day
I still think TO’s reported suicide attempt was actually a suicide attempt.
by Agreen07 on Nov 13, 2009 7:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We all try harder when the days run out.
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