Rangers: Best tools
by Jamey Newberg on Nov 13, 2009 1:13 PM CST
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PrintAdding a new feature to this year's book (as I put the finishing touches on things.....all top 72 prospect features are finished) -- a BA-like rundown of the system's best tools. But I want to go beyond what BA does. What other categories do you want me to add besides the following?
Best Hitter for Average
Best Power Hitter
Best Strike-Zone Discipline
Best Bat Control
Fastest Baserunner
Best Baserunner
Best Athlete
Best Fastball
Best Curveball
Best Slider
Best Changeup
Best Control
(should I have separate category for Best *Command*?)
Best Life
Best Defensive Catcher
Best Defensive 1B
Best Defensive 2B
Best Defensive SS
Best Defensive 3B
Best Infield Arm
Best Defensive Outfielder
Best Outfield Arm
Most Exciting Player
Best Manager Prospect
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I'm not sure control matters without command
unless you’re trying to figure out a way to say best BB/9. If that is the case, then I do think you should have both. If not, then I would prefer to see only Best Command.
Would you consider having Best Range for infield and outfield? Or would that be covered in one of the categories you already have?
Can’t wait for the book.
That's why they call them business sox
Most likely to...
…do a season-long diary for the Newberg Report.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
Spike Lundberg, John Hudgins, C.J. Wilson, Jason Andrew, Michael Schlact, Ryan Tatusko.
With one exception, they do sort of fit a similar profile.
by Jamey Newberg on Nov 13, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
I nominate
Beau Vaughan
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Nov 13, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
That would be so ridiculously awesome
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
He is such greatness
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Nov 13, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Almost certainly won't be in the Rangers' system next year
minor league free agent.
Let's start a collection to get him resigned then
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Nov 13, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Tomas Telis
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 13, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I've got a player lined up for the 2010 season
I’ve warned him of what happened to the previous two [Tim Smith and Chris Dennis], and he still seems eager.
I bet you do
I couldn’t have thrown you a bigger softball. Thanks for living up to the hype.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'll lend you some hype, if you'd like. I don't deserve mine.
by Jamey Newberg on Nov 13, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Out-damn-standing exchange
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Nov 13, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Could you go ahead and post an analysis of Scheppers on Crops?
I’d love to hear your thoughts.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
you know
he’s not the first to criticize jamey but I don’t see how he criticizes jamey when the last thing he posted was from august…and it sucked as usual.
say something smart. I’ll give you a dollar (2 if it isn’t some lame attempt at a comeback)
and really
i don’t understand why he criticizes jamey either. MJH had the interesting but controversial predictions on prospects. Jamey just gives us the positives on everybody and generally only aggregates stats and scouting reports while giving us personal bios that he’s able to obtain with his access.
just a bizarre little man that fin is.
You don't understand the nature of criticism
Weak argument. Try again.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
the nature of criticism in general?
yeah, that sounds about right because I actually don’t criticize anybody ever.
I don’t understand the nature of your criticism. Explain it to me. And try not to be act like a pariah while doing it (you know – no need to cite family emergencies). nobody likes a sad face.
I'll make a deal with you
I’ll explain my critique of Newberg if you can tell me what it was like to play “Corky” on the show Life Goes On. Deal?
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
hahaha
damn that’s funny. I’m a mentally challenged person from an early 90’s tv show.
wait. it’s not really that clever. Me calling you a dumbass is probably just as clever. my pariah comment was more clever (if not just apt).
so how about i just say, “deal” and you try to say something else clever
No need
And you are right, that was damn funny.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
You've clearly been outwitted, ab03.
You said that his comment was “not really that clever,” to which he replied that it was “damn funny.”
Checkmate. That’s what you get for testing the awesome power of Finnerty’s mind.
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
ok
you do win. but please, do explain your problem with jamey. i seriously can’t remember what it is and i’m sure the new people are dying to know what it is you don’t like about him.
I never had a problem with Newberg
I read his blog and I get his emails. It was when he started running his mouth about Crops that pissed me off. I get it, people didn’t like the site and I know why. It just wasn’t that good. It could and should have much better.
That said, Newberg made the decision to poke at me and I decided to poke back. I know where I stand in this community and that is fine. However, I don’t have a problem calling out people who like to talk shit. I’m not a punching bag just because you don’t like my site or my opinions.
by Finnerty.Fan on Nov 13, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Ben's revelation (on the best first baseman thread) that Fin is a bit makes this all the more entertaining
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Bits are FUN.
/Norm
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
Crap, I think the exchange got deleted, because I can't find it in the archives
The suggestion was that it’s not Jamey, but it’s a regular poster who is generally viewed as knowledgeable about prospects.
I vote Scott Lucas. He would be the perfect candidate to pick fights with The Newberg.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Ben refused to tell, but you were both prime suggestions
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
OH MY GOD IT'S ALL OF THEM.
THEY’RE ALL ONE PERSON.
Mother of God.
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
by ghtd36 on Nov 13, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I saw that too.
It was an exchange between Lsj and Ben. I want to believe it’s a bit.
Our community is above DMN line of thinking (with a couple of exceptions)
/puffs chest.
What he hell...
Are Jason Parks and Jason Cole he same person too?
What the fuck is going on around here?
I demand everyone identify themselves immediately.
I’ll start, my real name is Enormous Johnson.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
If only I had the musical talent
that Parks had.
I wish I had his stache
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I could definitely see that
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
"Is it me?"
I am honored by your guess, WestTxAg06, but Finn ain’t me. I do wish I’d come up with this, though: “How close is Poveda to the majors? Close. Frisco is only 45 minutes away from Arlington.”
Now THAT’s analysis.
"It's not a good strategy, but it's my strategy." -- Courtney Lucas
x
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 13, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Bits
I thought Shark was Adam’s nom-de-wank.
by Neftali's arm on Nov 13, 2009 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ben
Is a tribal consigliore in the Morris gang. He has a vendetta for Irish wannabees.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Nov 13, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Morris family consigliere is an outstanding description of Ben
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Player - Manager Prospect
What current player is most likely to be a coach/manager one day? For example I always hear Adam Fox will be a good manager.
Maybe that is what you have in mind for Best Manager Prospect?
I like this edition to the Newberg Report.
How about "looks the least like a pro athlete"...
…or “looks the least like a baseball player”.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Nov 13, 2009 2:37 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Best 5 tool player
Best Hitting Prospect (overall)
Best Pitching Prospect (overall)
Best Chance to Overachieve (not really identifying a talent – maybe mental makeup or something)
Best Speed – somewhat covered by a few of them but I really want to know who has the fastest 40 time.
I wonder if you’d be able to name all of these awards. (Best Defensive Catcher – Pudge Rodriguez award).
Best Interview
Best blogger (are there enough?)
Some stuff that maybe only I want to know
Strongest
Tallest
Skinniest
Best opposite field hitter
Best opposite field power
Best bunter
Best pickoff move
Best at turning a double play
Best fielding pitcher
Best catcher arm
+1 on the pickoff move.
And the catcher arm.
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
Macumba, hands down.
And the catcher arm.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 13, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Best...
Bunter
Basestealer (not really same as runner)
Leader (might as well evaluate, since it appears to be a key reason to resign players — just kidding, I actually like Byrd).
Jack Daddy
Best Grullon
That way we know how to compare Juan and Geuris.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Juan
would be the one with pitchability…
How about highest ceiling?
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Nov 13, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions
Best infield range
Best outfield range (although that may just be the fastest outfielder).
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Nov 13, 2009 4:03 PM CST reply actions
BTW
Moreland drew 3 BBs
Teagarden – 0/5 with el sombrero del oro
Scheppers – ouch
Gutierriez – yay
Harrison – yay
¡Ay, caramba!
¡No me gusta el sombrero de oro!
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
Forever ...
I’ve held me tongue. I’ve always been waiting for that moment when a sustained successful avg in the bigs proves all those Tea-doubters wrong. But, alas, it isn’t looking like my Tea-riumphalism wiill ever come to pass. Just doesn’t look like the dude will ever hit.
sigh – so our hopes lie with Salty to come thru … sigh
Best poster child for a terrible new poster
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
I don't particularly enjoy being lied to by a moderator sir
by oc on Nov 13, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm going to change your user name...
…to “The Hills.”
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 13, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
The question still remains: is Finnerty Fan a sock-puppet?
by oc on Nov 13, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
"The anointed"
/Mike E
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
Certainly not Sammy Sosa
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
Bud Dwyer'd
"Blister please, with those wings in your spine.
Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
Wrapped in boxes so tight, sounding only at night as you sleep." ~Jeff Mangum; Neutral Milk Hotel
That's not what I got from that at all
For whatever that’s worth. Maybe I missed something new this morning, but last night it seemed to me like Ben was just enjoying watching me guess.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
Yeah, I thought it was Ben just entertaining himself by keeping us wondering
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Best Scout
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Best Catholic
Best Protestant
Best Muslim
Best Non-BCS religion
by robert_d_wilfong on Nov 14, 2009 12:52 AM CST reply actions
A few ideas...
Best ground ball pitcher
Best mix of pitches
Best infield range
Best outfield range
Go Rangers! Go Cowboys! Go FSU!
Latin Wind
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Mostly likely
to get an email from his mother
Jeeez, the players JD picked up in the Tex trade have barely made any kind of meaningful contributions to the Rangers in The Show, but the pro-JD crowd is still running around shouting "I told ya so."
Thanks for all the suggestions
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