Sheets will be ready for spring training
Ben Sheets' agent Casey Close says that Ben Sheets is doing very well in his rehab, and should be 100% by the start of spring training.
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Adam J. Morris
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Seems likely
That he’ll get 4 Million with incentives from someone. I hope we go that route rather than giving up a quality prospect for a guy like Vasquez. Not that Javier Vasquez isn’t awesome.
I like steak.
Vazquez
hasn’t been that awesome in the AL. He’s been a dominant NL guy, though.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 14, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Vazquez's tRA+'s in Chicago
130, 129, 128.
His only sub-par year in the AL was ‘04 with the Yanks. The FIP’s and BABIP’s from his Chicago years suggest their defense might’ve hurt him some, but other than that there’s really nothing to really support this idea that Vazquez can’t pitch in the AL.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
Pretty sure I didn't say
that he can’t pitch in the AL.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 14, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
Well, you said he hasn't been that awesome in the AL
Which he actually has.
And this isn’t really directed at you, either. The idea that Vazquez is only truly dominant in the NL has been floating around LSB for awhile now.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
The reason for that
is because he’s never had as much success in the AL as in the NL. He pitched well with the DIPS, but the results just weren’t there the majority of the time he pitched in the AL. Part of that could very well be luck, but I don’t agree with the line of thinking that you just throw out that kind of trend without considering the possibility that he is one of many pitchers out there who can’t have as much success in the AL as the NL.
And all of this is a moot point because there is no way Vazquez accepts a trade here so its pointless to talk about him as a potential trade target.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
If the Rangers get
a middle of the order bat, Sheets, and a utility guy, I’ll be happy.
by Randy Richardson on Nov 13, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions
Sign Sheets
Trade for Dunn, re-sign German would be my preference.
I like steak.
by Conjunction on Nov 13, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Need somebody who can play SS
John McDonald or Nick Green would be my preference.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
why?
Are you gonna sit Elvis for more than a dozen games next year?
If he gets hurt and we have to rely on our utility guy as an everyday player we are fucked anyway
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I've been away from the board for a few days
Dropped in tonight to read a couple of the threads and damnit, you are really dense.
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"Gas, Grass, or Ass. Nobody rides for free"
Im trying to figure out which one is the dense one here Tricer
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
German is definitely not the answer
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Ot... but did anyone read this??
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) — A top prospect for the San Francisco Giants has been stripped of his U.S. visa after he was charged with killing a man in his Caribbean homeland.
Pablo Peguero, the Giants’ representative for Latin America, said Friday that 19-year-old Angel Villalona can’t join the team in the United States because the U.S. Embassy in the Dominican Republic has revoked his visa.
Dominican prosecutor Jose Antonio Polanco said Tuesday that Villalona offered the family of the man he allegedly killed nearly $140,000 to drop the case against him. He alleged the first baseman paid $55,000 and expected to offer another $83,000.
Polanco said the family viewed the payment as compensation for the killing of 25-year-old Mario Felix de Jesus Velete.
The family has not returned repeated calls seeking comment. Villalona, who has pleaded innocent to the murder charge, also has declined to speak to reporters.
Police say Villalona, who received a $2.1 million signing bonus in his 2006 deal with the Giants, turned himself in 12 hours after the Sept. 19 bar shooting in La Romana. He could face up to 20 years in prison if found guilty.
Villalona was released last week on $14,000 bail after the family issued a statement saying it had accepted the money, Polanco said. A Dominican judge is expected to hear the case in about a month.
Villalona hit .267 with nine homers and 42 RBIs in 74 games for Class-A San Jose this season. Baseball America selected him as the Giants’ top prospect before the 2008 season, and the 6-foot-3, 200-pound slugger was selected for the Futures Game during All-Star festivities that year.
Anyone curious about his guilt or innocence now?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
It sounds like
the public down there thinks he’s guilty.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 14, 2009 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
maybe they can still trade him to KC
before Dayton Moore figures it out…
I'll believe it when I see it
Sheets is frail, and as much as I’d love to see him healthy and in a Rangers’ uniform, I will remain skeptical. I’d just hate to see the front office plan on him being in the rotation, and pass on making another move that might help the team long-term.
That's why they call them business sox
How would Sheets prevent us from making another move that could help us longterm?
Are you afraid he might block Feliz’s ascension to a starting role? (Could be a legit concern, I guess.)
Worst case scenario probably is he comes in and stinks and/or gets hurt, we put him on the DL and the younger guys have a go for awhile. We’ll probably have wasted 4-5 mil or whatever if that happens, but hey, that’s free agency.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
Well
Feliz being blocked is one possible negative outcome. And, who knows? Maybe there’s a trade or another more stable free-agent that the Rangers might be considering pulling the trigger on, but, because of their financial situation, having already invested 4-5 million in that shell of a man might prevent them from doing it.
That guy is an injury waiting to happen. And since there’s not much money to go around this offseason, I’m not sold on the idea of rolling the dice on him. I’d love to be wrong.
That's why they call them business sox
Feliz being blocked
I don’t buy that argument at this point.
He can go to the pen, and that’s fine, or he can go be a starter in AAA for a little while, and that would be fine.
Realistically, at this point, even if you don’t sign Sheets, Feliz probably isn’t in the rotation to start the season anyway.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 14, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
I find it funny you say this about Sheets
yet you don’t want to do the same thing with Vlad
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Vlad doesn't fill a need.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
RH bat who crushes lefties and will be the everyday DH?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Only if you expect him to improve significantly from 2009
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
So you expect him to have reverse splits?
When he has crushed lefties throughout his career yet with Nelson Cruz you argue that hes going to crush lefties because its unfathomable to expect a guy to have reverse splits even though hes never been able to hit LHP in the majors?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Huh?
What are you talking about reverse splits?
He had a .260 EQA last year. If he doesn’t improve significantly on that, he’s not going to be an every day DH.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Last year Vlad OPSed 831 against RHP and only 686 against LHP
For his career hes been 940 against RHP and 1000 against LHP. Last year he had reverse splits.
Nelson Cruz OPSed 898 against RHP last year and 752 against LHP. Reverse splits. Only Cruz for his career is a reverse splitter. 818 against RHP vs 740 against LHP.
Yet when I or Josey bring up the fact that Cruz has struggled against LHP and shouldn’t be counted on to mash them next year you argue that its an anomoly and because it doesn’t fit the normal mold of a RH bat mashing lefties better than righties we should ignore it. Yet now you are saying a guy who has crushed lefties in his career can’t be counted on next year because of one year?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
You are making no sense
You said Vlad could be the every day DH. I said he needs to improve significantly on last year’s .260 EQA to make him worthwhile as an everyday DH.
And to answer the random reverse split question you threw in there, no, I don’t expect Vlad to continue to have reverse splits, and I am pretty sure I’ve never said otherwise.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Just a miscommunication is all
I was talking more about the RH bat that mashes lefties part than the everyday DH part. You were obviously the opposite.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Ah
Okay. Yeah, if you could get Vlad as a platoon DH, then that would be fine. But you’d have to pay him as a platoon DH, which I don’t know that he’d do.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Did you see my reply to you
in Friday’s morning thread? Look at how much Vlad’s OPS has slipped the last 3 years against lefties.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I think there are much better options for that role.
Vlad’s a guy I take a chance on only after I’ve exhausted other options of acquiring the three other guys who could affect the entire offense overall as well as produce against lefties. I just don’t think he’s that good a fit here.
We’re always looking for cheap effective pitching, however, and Sheets is a TORP talent who could come cheap on a 1-2 year deal. That’s a gamble I like a lot better than a gimpy, declining DH who is fourth or fifth best among the available options.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
This sounds like
when Juan Gonzalez said he was going to be healthy, picked up a years salary, and was back in Puerto Rico before June,
There is no chance I would sign him without most of the money being based on games played incentives.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Me either
But you know some dumbass team will offer him at least some guaranteed money, so that’s where the benchmark will be set. I don’t think he’ll end up here. If he does and it’s on a deal like that’s extremely heavily incentive laden, I guess I’d actually be happy with that. Otherwise it’s hard to get excited about all this talk about bringing all these injury prone players on board. Recipe for disaster.
by Black Francis on Nov 14, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind going after Duscherer
instead of Sheets, or if Sheets isn’t really ready.
I would also think about Rich Harden
but he may be too expensive. All three have injury risks though.
Harden, yes
He has a track record of dominance.
Duchscherer turns 32 on Thursday, has 27 career starts, and is a finesse righty.
I want to see the Rangers add a front-end starter, not a body.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 14, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Harden...
won’t he get more money than the Rangers can afford though?
Even with all his injuries I expect him to get somewhere around a 3/30. Although it’s still really tough to tell where the market is going to be this year.
As far as Sheets goes, I’ll believe it if/when I see it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Same here
You’ll probably have to pay Harden a little too much and he’s going to spend some time on the DL, but when the guy isn’t on the DL he is utterly dominant. He’s going to strike out 10+ per 9, walk a third as many batters as he Ks, and give up just over one baserunner an inning.
Those numbers aren’t that easy to come by. Even if he spends time on the DL and makes 15-20 starts, those 15-20 starts are likely to be MUCH better than the same 15-20 starts from any other options.
Put another way, filling a back-end rotation slot with Harden plus a middling injury replacement is better than filling that slot with any other back-end option for the whole season.
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Still I think
he had a pretty impressive 2008 season before he got injured. I think it would be worth a look
Duchscherer
Great ERA that season. Pretty good FIP. Meh tRA.
2008 seems to just scream “fluke” to me.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 14, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Same here...the foul territory at Oakland Coliseum probably didn't hurt any
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haven't you heard
the Yanks are too busy going after Halladay…
They'll probably get both of them just to be safe
Would C.C. + Halladay + Burnett + Harden be the greatest four-deep ever?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
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two of them would get injured
and they’d end up with something like $40-50million on the DL for the season. I call it Carl Pavano Karma.
I didn't even know Harden was available
that’s very interesting
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 14, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hold on, Mike Bascik told me on the radio that Sheets might not pitch at all this coming season
I mean, can somebody please confirm this report???
Mike Bascik
Working hard to try to prove C.J. Wilson right.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 14, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
gagree
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 14, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Remember that time we all thought Ben Sheets was going to play for the Rangers?
Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."
Still do
Not sure at all any more, but I’ve had the presumption all along that Sheets and the Rangers are a fit, which both parties recognize.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Nov 14, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
agreed.
and it’s a dream of mine.
who’s the new “Todd Stottlemyre” for us to go after this year? I loved that guy. I want a new Todd Stottlemyre.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 14, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
I would've said Tim Hudson, but he just signed an extension.
Maybe Matt Cain. If you don’t mind getting 1.5 years rather than 0.5 years out of the next Stottlemyre, then maybe Gil Meche.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Todd Stottlemyer
Wouldn’t talk about re-signing here because his wife hated Texas.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 14, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Well
Todd Stottlemyer’s wife can eat me.
Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."
by Pocket Ninja on Nov 14, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
What's up with the fanshot colors being gray?
the blue was much better
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
No way Sheets is ready next year....
….whoever signs him on a 1 year deal is pissing money away.
He needs to be sucking on some HGH getting ready for ’10
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Nov 15, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions
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