Kevin Goldstein Chat

Jake (Houston): Any hope for Rangers prospects Danny Gutierrez or Neil Ramirez?
Kevin Goldstein: I think there is lots of hope for both. Ramirez flashed good stuff at times this year, while Gutierrez really has the makeup concerns over anything he does on the mound. He just has to get his head screwed on straight.
Mario66 (Toronto): Would you use Scheppers as a starter or reliever?
Kevin Goldstein: 100% reliever, and get him to the big leagues as soon as possible, because you know he's going to break at some point.

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"because you know he's going to break at some point."

Who could disagree?

And yet, wow. The way he puts it, like he’s terminally ill or something. You just want to have all the quality time you can.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 17, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions

Yep, like Z said

even if it’s 6 years before he gets hurt everyone will still say, I told you so!

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Nov 17, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

All pitcher breakdown at some point.

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by RangerMad on Nov 17, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions

Sometime this off-season

I’m gonna start a fanshot where everybody has to imitate Mike E posts toward various subjects I throw out.

Bigfoot?
hairy
yup
over-rated
tall – that’s really all he’s got – kinda stanks, too
just a jacked-up monkey

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by shroomer on Nov 18, 2009 1:14 AM CST up reply actions

I approve.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire

by LSJ on Nov 18, 2009 2:37 AM CST up reply actions

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 18, 2009 7:53 AM CST up reply actions

Baseball

too long
sucks since ty cobb
washington lol
nfl

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 18, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions

dumb

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 18, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions

Nah

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by inactive lsb user on Nov 19, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions

Could Sheppers...

be the guy that keeps Feliz from being a reliever for good?

Perhaps having his arm in the ’pen would allow those that think Feliz would help most in the ’pen to rethink their position.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 17, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions

At least not the first part of it anyway. I think Feliz starts the season in the pen. If Scheppers is deemed ready around mid-June I could see them yanking Feliz back to AAA to stretch out for 6 weeks or so and bring him back at the beginning of August. Sorta like a mid season trade acquisition almost would be the effect he could have.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 17, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions

Re: Scheppers.

Goldstein speaks like someone who doesn’t understand shoulder anatomy. It may be inevitable, but there’s no way Goldstein has the knowledge or insight to declare it so.

Searching for a way to predict injuries - TexasLeaguers.com

by NoNameOnCard on Nov 17, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions

And even if you do think his shoulder is just terminally whacked

why is starting any worse than relieving? I kind of think the regular routine of starting might be of some benefit compared to the up and down and go all out for an inning nature of relieving. You become a reliever because of a lack of a complete repertoire or effectiveness, not because a team is worried about your shoulder.

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by t ball on Nov 18, 2009 1:09 AM CST up reply actions

Well, the thought is you're throwing less innings I guess

But that is an interesting point, especially when you consider Ron’s tendency to abuse his best relievers a bit.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire

by LSJ on Nov 18, 2009 2:38 AM CST up reply actions

I have wondered the same thing.

Would a regular routine of a SP be easier on his shoulder than the haphazard routine of a reliever?

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by RangerMad on Nov 18, 2009 7:14 AM CST up reply actions

That's what I was thinking.

I thought the reason that you want to keep pitching prospects as starters as long as possible is that relievers tend to have shorter careers than starters.

I get the feeling that Goldstein is basing his opinion in part on Scheppers draft position, but I’m not sure how valid that truly is (or if he’s even doing it consciously).

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 18, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions