The Will Carroll/Josey Wales Memorial dumb trade proposal of the night
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 29, 2009 8:56 PM CST
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PrintFrom the comments on Richard Justice's blog post on the Astros tonight:
Convince [Carlos] Lee to waive his no trade and package him with [Kaz] Matsui to the Redsox for Josh Beckett. Lee can play LF for a few years or DH. Big Papi is on the decline and I think the Sox realize that. Matsui is a second baseman but he can play short and they need a a SS at the moment.
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I don't know...
I think the BoSox would have to throw in another quality arm to make that work.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
What makes it even funnier is Justice's very first bullet point:
• Carlos Lee, Lance Berkman and Roy Oswalt won’t be traded. They’re on the books for $48 million.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
This is much worse than Josey's proposal
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Nov 29, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Josey's proposal that got him in trouble wasn't that crazy
He simply said that he’d rather have Cruz, who is cheap and under team control for a long time, than Carl Crawford, who is expensive and only temporary. He said the difference would be a nice arm. “Nice arm” can be interpreted many ways, obviously Carroll thought he was talking about somethign really nice. But nice could be a Moscoso type prospect.
Go Rice Owls!
Why does everybody miss the point with that comment?
It’s really simple, and a bevy of people come in and correct this ass-backwards interpretation, but the point never, ever sticks.
by brettgardner on Nov 30, 2009 12:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Clusterfuckapalooza!
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Nov 30, 2009 2:08 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of Josey
You’ll never guess what movie is coming on in an hour on ion TV.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
JW
Where’s he been lately?
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Probably commited one of the 7 deadly sins...
…Sloth.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Nov 29, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he faded with OC's JW Post....queer huh?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
Wasn't it Adam
who thought the Royals would trade Butler for Salty & Matt Harrison?
Guess the dumbfuck Aggie Will Carroll somehow missed that little nugget.
Anybody see what happened to Utah this past weekend?
LOL!
Too bad they can’t play San Jose St. every weekend!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
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by Josey Wales on Nov 30, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
I have a theory that he's also actually bigsteve
The lack of reason or logic is the same.
the movies kinda like the LSB Josey Wales..
he’s constantly surrounded by ten people who want to kill him but somehow always survives.
So that's how Michael Phelps can eat 10,000 calories a day!
The story of John Wayne Gacy?
by TooLegitToQuit on Nov 29, 2009 9:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
heh I was just watching it on Ion..
and of course I have it on the way from Netfilx too lol
So that's how Michael Phelps can eat 10,000 calories a day!
I think it's also on Hulu right now too.
A bunch of the old Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns are.
Are the fans that propose these trades. . .
. . . the same fans that get angry when their teams trade for prospects because they haven’t heard of them since they’re not in the majors?
Being a baseball coach...
I was around a lot of people who think/thought the Teixeira to Atlanta trade was awful because we “didn’t get anything in return.”
by NoNameOnCard on Nov 29, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Oh well not everyone can be baseball geeks like us
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
This.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Nov 30, 2009 2:17 AM CST up reply actions
It's one thing to not know something because you're not interested in doing that much research.
It’s another to think you have enough information if that’s the case.
i had a bet with a friend...
Who’s a very jaded Rangers fan when this trade happened that both Feliz and Andrus would be productive players for the big club by the end of the 2010 season. He’s already balked, arguing that Elvis had a decidedly unproductive rookie year because he “only hit .267”. Those are the types of people whoe don’t like these trades.
by Tyler H on Nov 30, 2009 12:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll be honest:
That trade was what got me to actually pay attention to prospects. I wanted Teixeira traded for something I knew, and when he wasn’t but everyone praised it as a great trade, I figured the fault was not with the Rangers but with me not knowing these players. I’ve worked on correcting that since.
Didn't some Houston message boarders
throw a hissy when Pudge was traded, thinking they should have held out for Feliz or Perez?
Really?
I would’ve like to have seen that.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Found it!
Quote:
we could have gotten martin perez and someone else. this is bull. we may as well just tear our team apart, and i’d be all for it, but we have some idiots in office…ed wade…drayton mcclane. sell the team, you morons because you certainly don’t know how to run one the correct way. we need a total rebuild. PERIOD. our team is old and in 2 years, we will have nothing, either get some top tier prospects now, or let them go to free agency or some bull crap we always pull instead of doing something sensible for once.
About halfway down on here
This guy is effing awesome, this is come content from his more recent posts:
the astros need a frontline starter and if they trade berkman or oswalt to the rangers, we could get good prospects back that we could give up for King Felix. Maybe Yorman Bazardo, Lance Berkman, Chris Johnson, Felipe Paulino/Bud Norris and Sammy Gervacio for King Felix straight up. then turn around and trade oswalt, koby clemens, and Ross Seaton for Neftali Felix, Elvis Andrus, Justin Smoak, and Martin Perez. The Astros will be back on track with just these two trades.
by Conjunction on Nov 29, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's epic
Thanks.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Thanks for posting this
I needed a good laugh this morning.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
In all seriousness
There aren’t many Houston prospects to trade for in the first place.
Going by my estimation of correct level age combinations: (AAA-24, AA 23, A+ 22, A and below, 21)
First, no one under the age of 24 appeared in any game for Houston last year at the major league level. this contrasts the rangers, who got 1140 plate appearances and 244.2 innings from pitchers under the age of 24. (Chris Davis, Elvis Andrus, Julio Borbon, Greg Golson, Derrek Holland, Neftali Feliz, Tommy Hunter, and Matt Harrison).
Position players: Round rock, their AAA team, got 20 plate appearences from a player under the age of 23. That player was Jose Vallejo, the guy they got from us.
The only players who I would call “young” for their level (see above) were a pair of teenagers on their Sally league team, Jay Austin and Wilder Parra
Position players: Houston had one player in High-A who was young for his level, 20 year old Patrick Urckfitz, who appeared in 7 games as a reliever. They did have a number of teenagers in their Sally league team, Brad Dydalewicz, Jordan Lyles, and Ross Seaton.
This suggests that help may be on the way, but its WAAAAYYYY out there.
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