Shake-Up with Rangers TV & Radio?
by pbpsean on Nov 3, 2009 11:56 AM CST
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PrintNow that the play-by-play position is open with the Frisco Roughriders... what does this mean?
Did they just get rid of Scott Garner or will he join the big club?
I hope this isn't the case... but my gut wonders if Garner will join Eric in the radio booth, Dave Barnett moves to TV PBP to join Tom and Josh Lewin doesn't have his contract renewed. Especially since Garner did a few Rangers games last season.
Like I say, I hope not because I like the pairing of Lewin and Grieve, and do not like Garner. The Barnett experiment on radio failed miserably last season. Just wasn't very good.
What would you like to see happen with the Rangers radio & TV?
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barnett was HORRIBLE on the radio last year
also, i doubt the rangers non renew lewin, if anything he may be going on to bigger/better things than the rangers if anything (which has been rumored for a while)
i couldnt listen to the radio (even w/ nadel, who i love) cuz of barnett.
i just hope they boot barnett. how can they bring him back after how horrid he was last year?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Barnett
Major disappointment. Never seemed to get the pacing for the game right.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 3, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
He was better on TV
Wonder if that’s the thought
by Brett Perryman on Nov 3, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Lewin and Greive
have great chemistry together when you watch a game. It will be a shame if Lewin isn’t brought back. I used to think they were really bad, but since I’ve been watching other broadcast via MLB.tv, I’ve realized that they are pretty good compared to the alternative.
Barnett was awful. He seemed monotone and unenthusiastic at times, and some of those times were on exciting plays. I would listen and thinkg, “What?! That was a homerun?!”
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
dont forget the delays!
crack of the bat, yell of the crowd, fireworks go off, kinsler rounds third
………….then barnett announces “long drive, back…at the track and its gone” about 30 secs late lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 3, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Barnett
used to do a lot of big 12 and swc bbal right? I think that was him. I always liked him as a basketball announcer and was surprised that he disappointed me so much as a baseball guy.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 3, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Was irritaitng to listen to...it was like what he saw with his eyes had to be mailed by
Pony Express to his mouth.
Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."
by Pocket Ninja on Nov 4, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
It was also irritating
Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."
by Pocket Ninja on Nov 4, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
This is just a rumor
heard 2nd hand from a guy is “connected” in the broadcasting world, but he said Lewin’s contract is not going to be renewed. Take that FWIW, which admittedly isn’t much.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
So we are
probably looking at a Grieve/Barnett combo then?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 3, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
i'll have to turn on the radio
and hopefully it will be synced up enough with the TV broadcast.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
If that happens than
I want John Blake shot.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 3, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
john blake knos what hes doing
but that would just turn off the fans
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Nov 3, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Thank goodness
I hate Lewin.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by LSBUser on Nov 3, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Go listen to some of the boring dumbshits
on other broadcasts and report back.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 3, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah i had
MLB extra innings in 08. Saw a lot of games and listened to a lot of boring announcers. It made me appreciate Lewin a lot more.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
I have heard others
Just because they suck doesn’t mean he doesn’t.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by LSBUser on Nov 3, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
renewed?
It is possible that Lewin wishes to go onto to bigger things. He does Chargers football and Fox Sports baseball. Rangers broadcasts might be holding him back from a larger national gig.
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That would be most likely
I can’t imagine that the club would be interested in getting rid of a rising star like Lewin. But calling 162 MLB games is quite a burden and he may be in a situation where, if he doesn’t have that weighing him down he can move into more prominence with Fox as a national broadcaster, doing Saturday baseball and college football.
"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
He lives in Southlake and has 2 young kids
I really doubt he wants to leave. I of course have nothing to back me up on that except from what he’s said on the air and other places about how much he loves the area.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
There's always one place better than the place you already live
And that place is San Diego
by oc on Nov 3, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
the schools don't get much better than Southlake
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
I haven't heard Garner, but...
there’s just no way he’s worse than Dave Barnett. I hope they don’t get rid of Josh.
Do you think he's worse than Barnett?
Or were you saying that you’ve heard others who are worse than Barnett?
He's worse
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Well...shit.
Maybe we could convince them to do a TV/radio simulcast like the Stars, and have Nadel, Grieve, and Lewin in a booth?
Yeah like Kinslerhomer said
he’s worse
by Brett Perryman on Nov 5, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
RIP Lewin
He’s grown on me only because he’s been a part of my Rangers experience for a long time now. Lewin is a serious contributor to the Rangers’ hokey-factor and for this reason I will celebrate his departure (if indeed it happens).
Next up Jim Knox, Rangers Captain, Built for Fun, and the dot race.
Enjoy San Diego Josh
by ncrangerfan on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
My ticket rep says........
that the rangers have enlisted chuck morgan to come up with an advertising campaign for next year and disposed of the ad agency route and I also heard that he has come up with a heck of an idea.
by rhino baseball on Nov 4, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with Knox and "Built for Fun" but
I don’t mind the Dot Race especially with the “live” dots running from LF…a concerted effort, however, should be made to get rid of the wave in the next season. The wave is a menace and must be destroyed!!
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 4, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
I have grown to like
Grieve and Lewin but the silence on this issue is deafening which seems to me to show that Lewin is not coming back. Garner is not that bad. The Rangers are probably wishing they still had Scott Frantzke because he is doing great work with the Phillies and he wanted to be here. I also like Steve Busby when he works with Eric on the radio but I doubt he would want the job fulltime anymore or he could probably have it.
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
i would be really displeased if lewin didnt come back. he is kind of hokey, but i think it spices up the broadcasts and let’s face it over a 162 schedule it’s nice to have some interjections of color to compliment the monotony of the game.
If he doesn’t come back I hope they go with a bold choice, instead of a barnett type. Somebody young, somebody non-white, somebody with an interesting perspective that can hopefully build some rapport with grieve.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions
Why
do you include non-white? Can a white guy not be young with an interesting perspective? If you have someone in mind, please state the name.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 3, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
sure, a white guy can be interesting. josh lewin is a prime example.
forgive me if i wasnt clear, but i didnt mean necessarily a candidate with all those characteristics. They were just some possible ways they might throw a wrench in the existing prototype of old, pompous, monotone white guys that seem to dominate the booth. I dont have a particular name though, but surely there are candidates like that out there.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Nov 3, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
McLemore
Or is he an outdoor desk in the Fox stable?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Nov 4, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
I would be severely disappointed if Lewin did not return
He’s so corny that hearing him and TAG go back and forth is like watching the game with a couple of friends at the bar, but with less cursing (unless you’re TAG coming back from a break)
And anyone who has heard Lewin do play-by-play for the Chargers or during Fox Saturday games or playoffs know that he is a real talent in the booth and I think he enjoys doing the broadcast for the home team b/c he can let his hair down and be himself and that, to me, makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
And can you imagine anyone else doing the call of ‘Ballgame!’ after Byrd’s walk-off GS against the Yankees in ’08? Yeah, me either.
/just my 2¢
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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gagree
I think Lewin is great. After living in another city for 5 years, you absolutely appreciate not having boring announcers.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
and when you watch a game that Lewin isn't there
Tag seems like he isn’t there either. Lewin brings out the stories and the personality from Tag that other play-by-play guys can’t do.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Excellent pt
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
I would be glad to see Lewin go.
I ’d love it if Barnett replaced Lewin on TV. Barnett was horrendous on the radio but I really enjoyed him when he filled in for Josh.
Josh, to me, is part of the whole candy-coated baseball, suck in the average consumer type of ideology. Same with all those crappy interviews Knox does and the stupid ad campaign they had this season. Chuck Morgan says the stupid ad campaign is going away. I’d love it if Knox and Lewin did as well.
by jthig32 on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah i didn't mind Barnett on TV
Hated hearing him on radio but on TV he was alright. He seems like the type that does better when the audience can see what hes explaining. With radio you have to explain so much which is what makes Nadel so amazing. I would hate to see Lewin go but if they replaced him with Barnett I wouldn’t be too upset about it
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Barnett
He just can’t seem to speak fast enough to get across all of the information required on the radio.
Also, he just doesn’t care about setting the scene. He drove me crazy with “Boston is leading the Yankees by 2 in the 7thswing and a miss strike three!”
Ugggg.
I agree with everything you said there
Knox and Lewin both seem like good guys, but whether it’s their doing or they’re just doing as asked, I really do not enjoy all of the mindless babble and pointless diversions.
by Brett Perryman on Nov 3, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Cotroneo was great
Favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen on a VW bus:
"Gas, Grass, or Ass. Nobody rides for free"
I hope we don't lose Lewin.
He might be a bit high-pitched, and hokey.. but he has his Gus Johnson freak-out moments which are always fantastic calls.
If we hire a PBP with a slower pace, it’s going to kill the broadcast with the already slow-paced Tom Grieve.
I recall reading an interview with Nadel awhile back...
In this interview it is mentioned that Nadel was, at one time, on the TV broadcast. It doesn’t seem he liked it very much. Based on that interview I don’t think Nadel on TV will happen any time soon.
I agree
I went with the first choice, but I am not a fan of either Barnett or Garner.
by GregoryM on Nov 3, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
One of the choices should have been Barnett/Grieve and Nadel/???
by Brett Perryman on Nov 3, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
How about
Grieve and Busby, that would be a great team IMHO. But is there an unwritten rule that you can’t have two ex-players on the broadcast team?
"Few things go together as well as Country & Western music and crazy people" Bob Dylan
haha
Huge meltdown potential. Three Mile Island kinda shit.
by Black Francis on Nov 3, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
If I preview first, I get the SBN error page
If I just hit ‘post’ my post is put up on the board successfully.
Sunny - I know he couldn't do it permanently
but Sundberg filled in on the radio broadcast a time or two and I enjoyed him. It wasn’t that he was a particularly talented broadcaster but he would give out some of the organization’s thoughts that were pretty insightful. Not so great with the play by play but his comments really gave a sense of some the behinds the scenes stuff that you normally don’t hear.
In particular, I remember him commenting after an Ian Kinsler triple to right center field that he was such a better hitter when he used that type approach and that the organization had made it clear to Ian that he was expected to do that more often. That game was mid summer or so and I noted that it was an isolated incident which makes me think that the org is trying to coach him up and he is resisting like a hard headed stubborn jackass.
I realize this post doesn’t really fit the thread, but whatever…
Favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen on a VW bus:
"Gas, Grass, or Ass. Nobody rides for free"
lets just go with a placeholder for 2010
then snatch up vin scully
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Nov 3, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions
He could read the Pelosi health care bill and it would be interesting...
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 4, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Even Rhyner?
He did a half inning or so of play by play in the Rangers booth last year. Honestly I’d rather hear him than Barnett but a ton of people would disagree with me, I’m sure.
by Black Francis on Nov 3, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
Rhyner's dead.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
So I've heard.
Even if he really was, a corpse would be better than Barnett.
by Black Francis on Nov 3, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
Lewin and Grieve, as much as I complain about them sometimes, are my preference on TV
Barnett is fucking terrible, but I’ve always thought the Frisco broadcasts where pretty horrible too, so I can’t really say I’d prefer Scott Garner on the radio with Nadel.
If we have to put up with an entire freaking season of Barnett on TV and Garner on the radio though, we’re in trouble.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
EG with an update
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/
Lewin’s contract with the Chargers runs out at the end of this season and it’s very likely the Rangers will ask him to commit full-time to this job in order to go forward.
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