Murray Chass hates Dennis Gilbert
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 30, 2009 4:13 PM CST
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PrintSo, nothing new on ownership, but Murray Chass has an angry ranting post up about prospective owner Dennis Gilbert.
Meanwhile, Evan Grant, offering his comments on the Chass piece, makes a good point...Gilbert is a SoCal guy who, according to Grant, wants to own the Dodgers. The McCourt divorce situation makes it more likely that the Dodgers could end up on the market. Would it really make sense for Gilbert to buy the Rangers (and for MLB to approve Gilbert) if shortly thereafter he's going to want to divest himself of the Rangers so he can go after the Dodgers?
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by inactive lsb user on Nov 30, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions
That Murray Chass article is kind of strange
Okay, so his website makes an overly broad claim about the guy’s place in the world. That’s marketing. The guy was an agent in the early days and got famous and rich from that, and some web tech who doesn’t know better tasked with writing his bio used a bad choice of words. Don’t know if it merits that sort of diatribe.
Grant’s point is much better: I don’t want an owner who doesn’t particularly care what team he’s getting to own. If Greenberg’s group is predominantly financed locally, I find that far preferable.
Go Rice Owls!
Really?
Claiming to have invented free agency, despite having been instituted several years before Gilbert became an agent, is merely a bad choice of words? Sounds like an outright lie to me. Anyways, I guess I’m not all that surprised as to what his website has to say given how Gilbert handled his announcement about the Barry Bonds contract. Gilbert just comes off as a pompous ass, and you are right it probably does not merit that diatribe. I found the part about Marvin Miller much more interesting.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Nov 30, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
most "about our people" webpages are written by some IT kid or secretary
who wouldn’t know Marvin Miller from Mickey Mouse. If Gilbert really thought that, he’s delusional; and given that it is a simple wikipedia search away from being seen as just incorrect, I doubt that it is a devious lie conjured up to generate business. Of course, I could be completely wrong and he could be a delusional liar.
Go Rice Owls!
Hate to burst Murray's bubble
But it didn’t say he “invented” free agency, it said that he “developed” it. If you think about the Barry Bonds deal, it really ratched up the stakes for free agents. The previous standard had been set by Mark Langston’s deal in 1989, which was for $3.55 million per year. Bonds made more than twice that.
if he was active in the 80’s, then he was working during the “post collusion” era, where salaries really took off.
The McCourt situation occurred to me too but I don't think it's a huge issue
Jamie is claiming that she signed a document giving up her rights to the McCourt assets to Frank (basically). She claims she didn’t understand that document despite the fact she’san attorney. I don’t think their divorce will force a sale of the Dodgers.
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I find it highly amusing he checked wikipedia
yet he’s completely opposed to you calling his site a blog. It just strikes me as incredibly ironic.
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It’s unfortunate maybe but not ironic. I hate that song.
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by LSBUser on Nov 30, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Okay...who the hell is Murray Chass?
Did he used to write in these parts or something?
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by Cecilio's Guante on Nov 30, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Retired NY Times baseball writer
Famously wrote a tirade against sabermetrics in general and then specifically singled out VORP and Baseball Prospectus. Nate Silver wrote a great open letter in response.
After leaving the Times he started his own website but, since he had bashed “blogs” previously, vociferously asserted that his “website” was NOT a “blog.” It was comical to watch him argue that his website where he posted regular columns and entries was not a blog.
Not surprisingly, all of these antics made him a favorite target of Fire Joe Morgan. He was right up there with JoeChats, HatGuy columns, and anything discussing David Eckstein, Darin Erstad, or Ozzie Guillen and the Chicago White Sox.
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Thanks...keep hearing about FJM, need to give that a whirl.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Nov 30, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
FJM is the shit.
Especially joechats or anything Darin Erstad related.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
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He's kind of a notorious old fart
He’s made multiple FJM appearances.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Giving whirl now.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Nov 30, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
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