Friday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 6, 2009 10:33 AM CST
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Clint Hurdle has been hired as the Rangers hitting coach, and Jeff Wilson writes that Hurdle wants to focus on the hitters' approach, rather than on their mechanics.
Gil LeBreton says the Rangers have hired Hurdle to be an offensive coordinator as much as anything else, wanting players to be more situationally aware and have a more "team-oriented" approach.
Five Rangers filed for free agency yesterday -- Marlon Byrd, Hank Blalock, Pudge Rodriguez, Eddie Guardado, and Joaquin Benoit. Byrd, Pudge and Benoit could all be back, although Benoit would likely be on a minor league deal.
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@mlbtraderumors White Sox Buy Out Option On Jermaine Dye http://bit.ly/48nwfQ
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 6, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
they sure as hell weren’t going to pay him 12 mil for next year.
I’m interested, depending on the cost.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 6, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Take that back.
If Dye signs with the Rangers, the lineup would look something like this…
CF Jermaine Dye
RF Jermaine Dye
LF Jermaine Dye
DH Jermaine Dye
1B Jermaine Dye
2B Jermaine Dye
3B Jermaine Dye
SS Jermaine Dye
C Jermaine Dye
P Jermaine Dye
This team should not have any former A’s player that Wash is in love with.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Nov 6, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dye dye
anu,
dye dye-anu,
dye dye-anu,
dye-anu dye-anu.
(sry, my inner jew is showing).
by iblum on Nov 6, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there are many anti-semites around here.
I’ll have your back.
by Black Francis on Nov 6, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2009 Dye
.250/.340/.453
102 OPS+
141 games, 574 PAs
vs. LHP: .292/.397/.508
His second half last year was just awful. I can’t decide if I’m interested in Dye playing here.
by FuturePants on Nov 6, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm definitely interested...
…depending, of course, on price. With Abreu getting 2yrs $19mil, could Dye be had at 2yrs $15mil?
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by ghtd36 on Nov 6, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, of course.
If he’s cheap, bring him in. It all depends on the price, but I don’t want anything flirting with an Abreu-type deal.
by FuturePants on Nov 6, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu = Ibanez
Or the Abreu deal could be just like the Ibanez deal last season; way overpriced than had the Phillies waited to sign him later in the offseason.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Nov 6, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, FA DH options..
Vlad
Dye
Matsui
Thome
Branyan
Nick Johnson
Adam Laroche
Glaus
quite a few others…
And of course the standby Bradley trade talk.
Hmm. Hard to gauge the FA market right now but if most of these guys are 1 year contracts there are some ok options. Kind of a retread of what we’ve been doing lately though and that hasn’t worked too well.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Nov 6, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Give me Nick Johnson.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For 105 games
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 6, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DH should help Johnson in this regard
and I’d rather have the younger player with an injury history than the older player.
We need to get away from the late 30-something player that nobody else wants.
Johnson could serve as insurance at 1B if Davis shits the bed again and fill the void until Smoak is ready.
One of this team’s biggest problems last year was how LH pitching dominated their LH hitters. Johnson gets on base v LHs something 42% of the time.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not the greatest of groups when you dive into it
Matsui is the best of the group, but will cost the most.
Thome, Johnson, and Glaus will all be hurt signing their contracts.
Laroche doesn’t like to play baseball until August.
Vlad is just not the same player he once was.
Branyan – No Thanks.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 6, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That group
is awful. Holliday and Bay are going to cash in big time from somebody wanting to avoid that steaming pile of dog poo. Those 2 can basically name their price and wait for an offer.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 6, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sign me up for mike cameron
If he is out in brewcrewville and everyone is gonna step over and on eachother for bay and Holliday, I wouldn’t mind sliding under the radar and nabbing him to mentor Julio and play center. Let him take over the Byrd role.
Just thinkin out loud
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Nov 6, 2009 8:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I could ride that train. He also would fit pretty well in Hurdle’s “team effectiveness” approach.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
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by Ed Coffin on Nov 6, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Borbon isn't going to play CF, he has little value to the Rangers
and if Cameron is going to “take over the Byrd role”, Borbon isn’t going to be playing CF in 2010. As for Cameron mentoring Borbon, why can’t Pettis do that?
by twinkilling on Nov 6, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just hoping that
“situationally aware and have a more ‘team-oriented’ approach” is coach-speak for teaching patience at the plate and less swinging for the fence.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 6, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Dye going to wanna play in the field
instead of DH?
We’re really screwed until the ownership situation gets squared away and I’m having difficulty imagining any moves until that’s resolved.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
About Hurdle
They are talking about him opting for more of a “team” approach. I’m wondering if that means more hit and runs, more bunting, more hitting behind runners and more making contact with RISP, or does that mean more working the count. I’m more interested in B than A.
In the article, they stated that its hard to turn free-swingers into more selective players, and that the easiest way to do this is to just acquire more selective hitters. But I would argue that the opposite should also be true, but doesn’t seem to be. Rudy J seemed to turn several more selective batters into free-swingers.
Salty, Kinsler, Cruz, and to a lesser extent Murphy and Hamilton all were more selective before they started playing under Rudy J. I guess the issue is that Rudy could make you a better hitter, but you’d lose some of your patience.
For some, however (like Chris Davis), who didn’t have much patience before, that’s a very bad thing.
In that respect, any change at hitting coach was going to help.
by iblum on Nov 6, 2009 11:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
"team" approach
means more about Ws and not HRs and SBs.
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by RangerMad on Nov 6, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
twins trade for JJ Hardy,
If anyone cares. They gave up Carlos Gomez
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Nov 6, 2009 11:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That could be a really good deal for the Twins.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Gomez sucks
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 6, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope Engel Beltre isn't Carlos Gomez in a few years
by ramjam36 on Nov 6, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Engel Beltre
could return part of a Johan Santana or a JJ Hardy in his career, I’ll be very pleased.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Nov 6, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do
That would mean he got to the MLB which I don’t think he will.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 6, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his tools alone will get him to the bigs
just like Golson
by ramjam36 on Nov 6, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not if he keeps hitting .220 in High-A
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 6, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Tools" get overrated to me, especially when they're "Raw"
give me somebody that can play baseball. Beltre just doesn’t have the pitch recognition and plate discipline that I would expect out of a legitimate prospect. If we could trade him in a deal, I’d be all for it. He’s still young, so somebody might want him.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 6, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 6, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe that's all it took to get Hardy
I know the guy had an awful year, but Carlos Gomez has had nothing but awful years
by ramjam36 on Nov 6, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
Isn’t Hart their CF?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Nov 6, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
btw...new Header Font is much better
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 6, 2009 11:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Header Font?
Wilmer’s cousin?
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Nov 6, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wanted to point out that Dye is 36 in January
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by tricer on Nov 6, 2009 11:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't go higher than...
1 year and 4 or 5 mil. Not sure what the market will be for him. I suspect someone will offer more than that though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 6, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Benoit
What are the odds of him signing with the org?
by Black Francis on Nov 6, 2009 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
pretty good most likely as a minor league deal with an invite to ST
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Nov 6, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock
is now represented by Scott Boras. I didn’t know that. Any chance that Boras brings Josey on his team purely for the big FA push of Hank Blalock?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 6, 2009 12:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced that Josey hasn't been Boras all along, to be honest...
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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by WhipSmart on Nov 6, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was far more anti-Chris Davis
than pro-Hank Blalock.
And if I do remember correctly, Boras reps both.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are really going to go with that statment...
all I can say is wow
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 6, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Without Jon Daniels
you would never post. Your posts have nothing to do with Blalock, Davis, or anyone except your blind hatred of Jon Daniels.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Nov 6, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I post quite a bit without discussing Little Boy Donuts.
I don’t have a blind hatred of him but he’s a terribly incompetent GM.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are a
terribly incompetent poster. That is all. Have a good day and weekend :-)
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 6, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you do.
You hate him personally because you think he’s a fraud. You’ve made several statements to that effect just in the short time I’ve been here (3-4 months).
by JDT217 on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know JD personally.
I do know his performance as GM of my favorite team has been awful and I find the fact that so many in LSB take him under their wing (“a good young GM” – my ass) laughable.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not true
Before JD he focused on Hicks.
by brettgardner on Nov 6, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It makes you wonder what's currently in production.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Nov 6, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, here's the breakdown
60% JD rants (whatever the purported topic)
20% Hicks screeds
15% tutoring the unwashed masses about baseball
5% extolling the virtues of testosterone heavy movies.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Nov 7, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3 years/30 million
brilliant
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 6, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Teixeira took a very big step towards making the
HOF this year. My quote in your sig is going to happen.
I said the Rangers should have offered him 8 years / $ 184 million (missed by $ 4 million) so that wasn’t a bad guess.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Nov 6, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
What the fuck are you responding to?
by brettgardner on Nov 6, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone ever know
I could be talking about cars and he’d go off on a payroll rant.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Nov 6, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love lamp
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 6, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nah, PHP sucks
Ok, my inner geek broke free for a sec. Carry on.
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by bking on Nov 6, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is Josey's theme song
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
by WyoRanger on Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
he took the huge step of going 3 for 20 something in the World Series. He also lead the league with 39 homers hitting everyday in what could basically be an A.L. All Star lineup in a ballpark that pushed the limits of ridiculous when it comes to HR’s.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
Hello Win Column!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 6, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
F no
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Nov 6, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The cereal?
Sure. The ballplayer? No.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Nov 6, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
mmmm....Cereal
and it’s so easy to make
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 6, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
David Weathers anyone?
by MikeEl on Nov 6, 2009 4:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
or Brett Myers?
“Kenny Powers is officially a free agent,” Myers joked
by MikeEl on Nov 6, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Weathers is a million years old and put up tRA's of a bout 5.80 the past two seasons
He was incredibly lucky this season with a .238 BABIP that’s bound to regress. He looks like a right-handed Eddie Guardado.
In other words, we’re probably looking at our 2010 setup man there.
I might be interested in Myers, but he’s a white Vicente Padilla.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 6, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Less.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Nov 6, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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