Saturday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 9:52 AM CST
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What do we have today...
Evan Grant takes a closer look at the Rockies' performance with Clint Hurdle as their hitting coach over at the DMN blog, with some interesting data on, among other things, how Ks and walks changed once Hurdle took over the job.
In not-really-Rangers-news, but interesting anyway, Tony Massarotti says the BoSox were in on J.J. Hardy before he was dealt to the Brewers, with the Brewers asking for Clay Buchholz or Daniel Bard for Hardy, and Boston only being willing to part with Michael Bowden.
This is interesting to me because there's been some discussion about whether the Rangers (and Ranger fans) were undervaluing Bowden when talking about deals with Boston this past offseason. The fact that the Red Sox apparently have him slotted behind Bard, and that the Brewers decided they preferred Carlos Gomez to Bowden, suggests that the bud may be off that particular rose.
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is coco crisp a possible replacement for the Byrd man.
He can play all three outfield spots and can play a majority of center. A possible one or two year contract on this guy seems alright to me. It wouldn’t have to be for much money im guessing.
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Crisp
I don’t think he would be a good RF and he isn’t a good hitter. No thanks.
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by DaheelzCM on Nov 7, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is young and a good defensive replacment that can play center.
Isn’t that what we want instead of Byrd on a 3 year deal? Think about the money saved there could help you go get a Dye, vlad, or another decent right handed bat. I think it would be smart.
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coco Crisp and Jermaine Dye
What a glorious offseason that would be.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
HaHa funny,
Im just saying Byrd on a 3yr deal could be worse. Any specific options you are looking at Mr. AJM?
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crisp
He’s not young. He turns 30 in November. He’s 2 years younger than Byrd. And he can’t hit.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
30?
Isnt that the aage GMJ had his breakout year? It could happen that crisp has one or two good years. The hitting might come along if he has the right coach. Clint for Prez!
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
Now I get it. This is a bit.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AJM at this point anybody is better then byrd on a three year deal,
even Crisp. It wouldn’t be fun and I agree the offseason would suck!
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I don’t think Coco Crisp on a 2 year deal would necessarily be better than Byrd on a three year deal.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crisp
It would be better if it was for like $2 million per year…..
by Darrell McKown on Nov 7, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
only if we get him some steroids for a signing bonus
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by 34express on Nov 7, 2009 11:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
who would you have us sign?
other than Cameraon
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 7, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thome or Nick Johnson
Or trade for Adam Dunn.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd especially like Dunn
but Thome and Johnson would definitely be upgrades.
If we don’t trade for Dunn, I’d try to use those same trade chips to possibly go after Nolasco, who will get a raise because of arbitration. Florida doesn’t really like those arbitration eligible players. What kind of package would Dunn or Nolasco take?
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by NothinG on Nov 7, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably a package starting with Borbon, Hunter, Perez
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by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not for Dunn
Last year of his contract and he has no defensive value. There’s no way Perez is needed for Dunn or Nolasco.
by LiamP on Nov 7, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You think Nolasco could be had for Borbon and Hunter?
I forgot how much time he has left under control, but still ..
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by Chase Irwin on Nov 7, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
But he wouldn’t require Perez.
Remember that Nolasco was a super 2 last year, so he gets that extra year of arb; he earned 2.4mm last year and that will obviously increase this year. There’s no way Florida can keep both him and Johnson long-term, and most people know that.
by LiamP on Nov 7, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, hit post early.
There’s no way Florida can keep both him and Johnson long-term, and most people know that. Florida can’t ask for anything near a Perez level prospect because they will inevitably deal him within a couple of years.
by LiamP on Nov 7, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
That’s a package to land someone like Halladay, not someone like Nolasco or Dunn.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thome and Johnson are both lefties
dont know where to find their splits.
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
our park favors lefties
and we have more impact righties than lefties
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by NothinG on Nov 7, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are looking for a rh bat not a lefty,
this team is full of lefties already.
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis, Borbon, Salty, Murphy, and Hamilton
That’s not exactly being full of lefties especially since none of those guys are locks to play everyday next season.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Nov 7, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there are more impact righties
our best two hitters were Young and Cruz. Kinsler and Andrus are also solid batters if not better for Kinsler. TT shares time with Salty, but he can be better at the plate than this past season.
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by NothinG on Nov 7, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson hits lefties better than most our righties do
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 7, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps you could help Rod Barajas get back into town. Right handed pop right?
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron and Barajas! Fantastical good time in Arlington!
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coco Crisp's arm in RF
LMAO
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"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire
by lonestarJon on Nov 7, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
might as well
move Elvis and sign Jim Thome to play SS.
by chrisR on Nov 8, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A year of experience for Borbon would be worth 3x the nominal value you would pay for cereal boy
by johnboy02 on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
would Bowden for a catcher be a possibility then?
I’m not sure his value has fallen as low as TT, for example.
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by slc ranger on Nov 7, 2009 10:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
they have victor martinez
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by NothinG on Nov 7, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but only for another year,
They will wait to see what happens with the Mauer situation before they make any kind of trade for a young catcher.
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't he be better for them...
as a DH though? The guy isn’t very good behind the plate. Plus he’s a FA in another year.
They could always use a backup. A catcher with a good defensive reputation like TT might fit. I don’t know, just throwing shit out there.
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by slc ranger on Nov 7, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They still have Ortiz
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
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by Gdawg on Nov 7, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Nov 7, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
New sig for someone straight from Jose:
Alex Rodriguez, get your [butt] in the ring, I’ll beat you to a pulp. That lying little idiot, I’d like to get him in the ring."
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahaha
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by NYTXFAN on Nov 7, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
EG's chart
Wouldn’t it be more informative if he compared the Rockies to the rest of the NL?
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by RangerMad on Nov 7, 2009 12:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hurdle
My only concern is that the old hitting coach earned his rep with a team who played its home games in a launching pad and the new hitting coach earned his skins with a team who played its home games in a launching pad.
1997 Rockies
Home: .321/.386/.523/.909
Away: .253/.327/.432/.759
1998 Rockies
Home: .325/.382/.519/.901
Away: .257/.311/.401/.712
1999 Rockies
Home: .325/.383/.549/.932
Away: .248/.310/.390/.700
2000 Rockies
Home: .334/.401/.538/.938
Away: .252/.320/.368/.688
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by DaheelzCM on Nov 7, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Re: EG's chart
@Ranger Mad: I don’t think so since the Rockies offensive marks were such an aberration from the rest of the league. And if you try to compare their road mark to the rest of the NL road marks, still don’t think it applies a whole bunch because other teams then get the benefit of a bunch of games in Colorado and the Rockies get none. …. So, I thought it most helpful to simply show how the Rockies performed in the year pre-Hurdle and then once he got there.
by Evan Grant on Nov 7, 2009 4:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I personally prefer NL or AL rankings when
comparing teams over multiple years.
Rockies NL ranks with Hurdle as hitting coach
year…………..avg……………obp…………..slg…………..so(fewest)……..bb
2001…………..1………………1………………..1…………….1…………………….10
2000…………..1………………2………………..4…………….1……………………..10
1999…………..1………………6………………..1…………….1……………………..14
1998…………..1……………..3…………………1…………….1……………………..13
1997…………..1………………1…………………1……………4……………………..6
pre Hurdle
1996…………..1………………1…………………1…………..10……………………8
1995…………..1………………2…………………1…………….7……………………6
1994…………..5………………5…………………3…………..12…………………..6
They certainly did improved their K rankings under Hurdle. But, their high OBP is due to high BA.
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by RangerMad on Nov 7, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Nov 8, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Less
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 8, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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