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Jeff Wilson talks about Jon Daniels' arrival at the GM meetings and has notes on a new front office hire and John Hart's presence. As Joey Matschulat notes, the new hire, Scott Littlefield, was in the mix for San Diego's scouting director position.

And Evan Grant talks about the process of hiring Clint Hurdle and how truthful the Rangers' public comments on the situation were.

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These are the GM meetings, correct?

Not the same as the winter meetings in December?

by tyd3311 on Nov 9, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I noted that this morning, but I’ll change my verbeage here.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 9, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Elias rankings released (HT fanshot below...)

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/11/09/free-agent-compensation-rankings-released/

Anyone think Pudge – a Type-B – gets offered? I do.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 9, 2009 3:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The question is do we want him back

I think if you offer he would accept without a doubt.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Nov 9, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they do want him back, actually.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 9, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Hard-throwing reliever aims to leave Japan"
Igarashi, 30, shares the record for throwing the fastest pitch in the Japanese major leagues, at 98.75 mph. He has spent his entire 11-year career with the Swallows, amassing 630 strikeouts in 570 innings pitched.

link

by MikeEl on Nov 9, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rangers to sign Sheets, Dye and Byrd

according to Tim Dierkes over at MLBTR in his 2010 Top 50 Free Agents.

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd much rather take a chance on Harden over Sheets at this point

Both have an injury history, but if Harden could be had for “1yr/7mil”, then go for it.

by MikeEl on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

of course if they sign Harden

we’ll probably end up hearing he has Thoracic Outlet Syndrome a quarter into the season…

by MikeEl on Nov 9, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

The correct reply is

Dye is dead.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 9, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yo Z

What’s your opinion on Littlefield? You seem to know about these FO guys more that us.

"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron

by coolaid on Nov 9, 2009 4:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know much about him

Will be interested to see if there’s much out there. National crosscheckers are pretty big deals when you start lining up the best jobs in the industry. Seems like he’s got about as many skins on the wall as Kip Fagg.

by Brett Perryman on Nov 9, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Casnick polled 20 general managers
8. Which player is more difficult to trade — Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley, because of his reputation and other baggage, or Blue Jays outfielder Vernon Wells, because of his contract?

Responses: Wells 20, Bradley 0.

by tyd3311 on Nov 9, 2009 5:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol, wow

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't too long ago that many posters here

were pulling for the Rangers to sign Wells. Put this one under the heading of the “Best Deals Never Done”.

by swampdonkey on Nov 10, 2009 1:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What name did you used to post under?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 10, 2009 7:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HeYman at SI via mlbtr

Jon Heyman has a new column up at SI.com, so let’s dive on in…

There is speculation that Lackey would like to pitch at home in Texas, but the Rangers’ interest might depend on how quickly their sale is resolved.
Heyman says that “MLB has set a tentative Thanksgiving deadline for the sale of the Rangers, but the price tag is expected to be in the $500 million range, and in cases of such big money there are no guarantees that things will go quickly.”

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Nov 9, 2009 6:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Once again if Lackey will sign

for the right price then sure. However, his price tag will probably be around Burnett’s or so, right?

"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto

by Michael Cave on Nov 9, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i want no part of Lackey

he is Millwood v2 and will cost more money. it would be stupid. I think writers just like to lump us into the discussion because that is what they are used to doing over the years.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 9, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I’m not really liking the idea of being tied to Lackey for 4-5 years.

Favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen on a VW bus:
"Gas, Grass, or Ass. Nobody rides for free"

by tricer on Nov 9, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HeY to you

It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.

by WyoRanger on Nov 9, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A Little OT: Royals Need A Catcher

When I read this, I immediately thought of Salty and the Dayton Moore connection. Not knowing much about the Royals farm, anything there that would be a fit for TX? If memory serves, they are loaded at corners with a disappointing Gordon and solid prospects in Hosmer and Moustakas. With Young and Smoak and Davis holding the corners for a while once Smoak breaks in during 2010 barring a trade, any match?

by atlantaranger on Nov 9, 2009 7:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well, yeah

Can’t see K.C. doing it, though.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 9, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Might be

He’s torn AAA to peices, but his power kinda dipped this year and he’s a couple years older than Davis, who we’d probably be unloading if we where to trade for Kaaihue. Good on-base skills though.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire

by lonestarJon on Nov 9, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

No. Their reluctance to give him a chance in the bigs is one of the more confusing stories about the end of their season last year.

by LiamP on Nov 9, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, they really don't like Kaaihue for some reason

Kinda like the Rangers and Cruz, only worse.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire

by lonestarJon on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Any discussion for Greinke starts with Elvis

And while Greinke gives me a nice-sized boner it is Elvis who sets my chest a-fire

by oc on Nov 9, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

+1

Grink would give us a #1, but Elvis makes our entire pitching staff better.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

"...he wasn’t a good hitter, just a good middle of the order bat that hit a lot of homers." - NYTXFAN on Mark McGwire

by lonestarJon on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Davis/Smoak

I guess this means you would be looking to deal one of these two in this case?

by atlantaranger on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No

Smoak isn’t ready yet, and Davis is a mystery after last season.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 9, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's pretend it's July 30th, 2008

Who on this board would NOW like to deal Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Chris Davis, Eric Hurley and Nelson Cruz for Zach Greinke?

by oc on Nov 9, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

me me me

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh I know you were all over it last year

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 9, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it's easy in hindsight

but most people projected Davis to mash the baseball out of the park, and not be the liability he was for most of the season.

and, although Greinke was good, who was going to project that type of year.

in hindsight, sure, everybody would have done it. now Davis’ value is at an all-time low. I hope he can rebound.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 9, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Davis's K-rates have always been an issue, even in the minors.

Only this place couldn’t stop cumming itself silly about his age and power

I also don’t think forcasting Greinke’s success was that difficult. Fool’s a strikeout machine

by oc on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris

by Chase Irwin on Nov 9, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My problem with your Greinke trade ideas

has always been the assumption that KC would be willing to trade him at all.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 10, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think that was pure speculation on alot of our fans part.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Nov 10, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the pure suck

of the rest of the team and their need to pick up quality players makes it a necessity.

by MikeEl on Nov 10, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The presence of Dayton Moore presents the possibility that logical thought won't be involved

A Jon Daniels or Josh Byrnes or Billy Beane would look at that club in its present state and see trading The Grink as the clear option for rebuilding that team.

But when a guy trades for a horrible defensive SS and then later says he “doesn’t understand” defensive statistics, I hesitate to think that he looks at a roster in the same way a better GM would.

"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Nov 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

all the more reason to trade for Greinke

We could convince him he’s getting a good deal without giving up our best guys.

by MikeEl on Nov 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for it, but I fear Moore will be demented and try to hang on to Greinke

"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Nov 10, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I remember reading around the time of his extension, they’ll trade him during one of those $13.5m’s.

But I agree, he’s not an obvious trade candidate, unless you’re another team (or a poster for another team’s message board).

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Nov 10, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My only problem with the deal

was at the time was Greinke’s contract duration. I believe at the end of 2010, he could go FA, and after being traded, I wouldn’t be surprised if he took the 20 mill or more per year he would have gotten from steinbrenner.

I think I was OK with the deal if an extension was part of it.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Nov 10, 2009 5:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would you do...

Perez, Salty and Borbon ? Would they?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 9, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would.

Who knows what Dayton Moore would do… that man is a mystery.

by MikeEl on Nov 9, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Moore counters with Elvis for Butler.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And I tell him

where to stick that idea.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe

he already got his dream SS in a trade last season with the Mariners.

by robert_d_wilfong on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The mind boggles....

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 9, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You people are giving Dayton Moore entirely too much credit with these trade proposals

"Feldman and Feliz and and pray for…infectious disease?"--TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Nov 10, 2009 6:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

One question

Rhetorical, at that. What in the blue eyed everlovin’ hell is John Hart doing at a General Managers’ meeting ?? It can’t be golf with his foot in a protective boot.

Sigh.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Nov 9, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i second that sigh

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely.

Maybe he finds another front office position they’ll finally take him off the Rangers’ payroll

by MikeEl on Nov 10, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Keeping watch over

Jon Boy Donuts? :)

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Nov 10, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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