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Five interesting players who have been non-tendered

  1. Chien-Ming Wang
  2. Scott Olsen
  3. Kelly Johnson
  4. Ryan Church
  5. Garret Atkins

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maybe it is reverse alphabetical

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

wang

has a lot of value and if they rangers arent in on him, its a damn shame.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 12, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm

cool. no kevin mench?

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Dec 12, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Kelly Johnson annoys me, fantasy speaking

I’ve hoped for about three years now that he’d be a good value pick at 2nd while I spent my early picks on guaranteed studs. Instead, the back of his jersey should say “meh.”

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Dec 12, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

I was on his bandwagon for a while as well.

Ranger fans say "NO! NO!" to Go Go.
Keep Reinsdorf's chub from ruining my club.

by tricer on Dec 12, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember being so pissed we didn't go after Olsen last year

Shows me to just defer to JoDa because I don’t know as much as I think I know

by WhiplashWhiteside on Dec 12, 2009 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

JoDa?

Northern Virginia's greatest Ranger fan.

by Ajax68 on Dec 12, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

daniels

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis

by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 12, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

And his Yoda-like maneuvering this week

It was coined in the thread discussing the Ben Rogers column on the week’s activities.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Dec 12, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, i like that.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis

by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 12, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that next year's marketing slogan

you could use more wang? or built for Wang?

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Dec 12, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Take in some Wang.

Come down to the ballpark and take in some Wang.

by TheCrow471 on Dec 12, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Harden, Wang in Arlington, spring 2010!

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Dec 12, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wang blows lead!!!

So who's todays mistress? They're coming out of the Woodswork!

by BigGuns on Dec 12, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Hicks holds Wang on Rangers' Opening Day

Crowd mollified

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Dec 12, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Intentional

Three uncomfortable ideas there, can you spot them?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Dec 13, 2009 2:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

should be crowd horrified.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Dec 13, 2009 5:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking.

I hope we sign him or he falls off the face of the earth or something so we can get past this.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, I don't care if it stops or not.

I was setting up the joke below :)

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Dec 12, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

And I know,

“Wang disappears into black hole”

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

is that so?

I don’t read everything on this site, especially on Friday nights. I was being a little whimsical but wasn’t trying to start a bunch of cock jokes. I think he’d be a good addition if the team weren’t flat busted is all.

by Black Francis on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes there was probably 100 of these awhile back

Not your fault if you didn’t see them, just would hate to see us become the Jay Leno of sports blogs.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Alfredo Amezaga

He’d be an OK fit as the true utility player. He’s an all leather guy that can play both SS and CF competently.

Ranger fans say "NO! NO!" to Go Go.
Keep Reinsdorf's chub from ruining my club.

by tricer on Dec 12, 2009 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

I think there is a pretty big benefit for having a util guy that can

play SS and CF competently. If you have a guy like Amezaga on the roster, you also have room for a Inglett or German type that carries a little more stick and can back up 2b and 3b.

Otherwise, I think they are going to have to carry Boggs or Gentry as the 5th OF / Backup CF. In that case the utility guy would have to be able to play a competent SS, which would squeeze both Inglett and German, guys that have some usefulness off the bench, out of a roster spot.

Ranger fans say "NO! NO!" to Go Go.
Keep Reinsdorf's chub from ruining my club.

by tricer on Dec 12, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Non-tenders

I’ve always like Johnson and especially Church, but they would serve no purpose on this team.

by Darrell McKown on Dec 12, 2009 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

Assuming the trade for Lowell falls through...

and the price is right, I’d be interested in Atkins. Historically a lefty masher who I assume could play first, third, and maybe some COF.

by vfn on Dec 12, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

Atkins away from home the past three years

.233/.302/.394

I’d pass, with or without Lowell.

by Darrell McKown on Dec 12, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Wang

Definitely wouldn’t mind giving him a shot. Check out his peripherals over the past few years compared to Feldman’s 2009. They’re remarkably similar.

by LiamP on Dec 12, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

unfortunately it's a pipedream.

I think he’d help the team immensely but there is no player cheap enough for this team.

by Black Francis on Dec 12, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Check his three year splits against the AL West

Against LAA, SEA, OAK he’s remorseless.
Against TX, he’s blasted (8.31 – boom goes the dynamite)

Might be truly useful in Ranger red and blue.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Dec 13, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

OT- the 2 people at the Gift Shop need to be fired.

I was there today, I walk in and ask “Wheres the Rich Harden gear?” they both reply “Whos that?” and I just say “you can’t be serious.” they go “probably not until spring, so now they’re spending money on pitching?” I just walk away. The India looking kid was rde and completely clueless. And the old man just seems bitter.

They need to be let go.

by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 12, 2009 4:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah

People should be fired for having to deal with asshole customers.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

You don’t need to explain yourself to me. I mean, a guy who looks Indian? That’s just fucking ridiculously rude.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

He does look Indian. Were you him by any chance?

Well if you are, get over yourself and your minimum wage job.

by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 12, 2009 4:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It was me.

And I want to say I’m sorry. I was just thinking—foolishly—that my job was to sell merchandise created by others. I forgot that my actual job was to know every single Ranger, no matter how little time they’ve spent as such, and to spend all my minimum wage-earning hours serving you, the awesome and knowledgeable white man.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

…overreact much? Geez.

"I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party. The...party. With the...with the pants. Party with pants?"

by BrickTamland on Dec 12, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't get what "get over yourself" means

you usually say that to people who are arrogant and who think they are better than you. this guy just seems like he didn’t care about you.

and, as you point out, it is a minimum wage job. I’m not sure what you are expecting here

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

job is a job

employees should be respectful to customers, it isn’t hard

I don’t like people justifying employees’ behavior with minimum wage (employees’ production is another story)

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally not the point.

The point was the guy wasn’t responsible for a whole lot, including knowledge of higher up retail procedures and he’s definitely not getting paid to follow all the Rangers’ moves 24/7.

There has been no evidence of rudeness on the part of the employee.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

he did have a grasp of what was in store

he didn’t know who you were talking about. and you replied “you can’t be serious”

who’s the asshole?

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think this'd be akin to a Best Buy employee

not knowing about the PS3 when it first came out

It’d be a little shocking

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

No

It’d be more like a Best Buy employee not knowing when PS3 was going on sale 2 days after it was unveiled by Sony.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

And?

You think every Best Buy employee knew about PS3 2 days after it was unveiled, which would probably be at E3 or something?

A few hours before this asshole walked into his shop, Harden wasn’t a Ranger, and the workers had no reason to know him.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess I'm not really sure why I'm arguing when I care so little

I feel like he was being pretentious during a Rangers-fan rant about the stadium’s shop not being familiar with the team

and you’re being pretentious and holier-than-thou and making it personal against him

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Holier than thou?

I think we’re talking about common courtesy.

And yeah, maybe I wouldn’t think much of a guy who would call someone an “India looking guy” out of the blue. Personal flaw, maybe.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

last point, and many people disagree with me on this subject, but

I think racial-sensitivity is an elitist expectation

Being non-racist is not elitist

Being able to comment on races and joke of their differences is something you can learn while living amongst diversity

Learning to spot every racist innuendo and carefully tread through the issues is something you learn in liberal arts university classes
          I think this is valuable, but to expect people who didn’t attend the same courses or read the same books to have the same awareness is elitist

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

god

you sounded somewhat reasonable until this dipshit diatribe. I like that the innuendo was “Indian looking kid.”

sympathy for the KKK for being ignorant, I guess.

what a sickening post.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I know people disagree with me on this

I just think that it’s easy to not be racially sensitive if you weren’t taught to look for it.

Calling someone India-looking when it has no relevance to the story is clearly racist in nature, but who cares?

I said “being non-racist” is not elitist, don’t misinterpret me, I clearly have no sympathy for the KKK

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

it's easy not to be?

really? how about you just don’t inject race into a conversation if it isn’t necessary?

geez, I get that you might have grown up without manners but the first time you start eating with your mouth open in public or don’t wash your hands after peeing and try to shake someone’s hand, people will stare at you and ridicule you until you learn not to do it.

I’m not gonna give the ignorant racist the benefit of the doubt here. especially since it isn’t something that he could only learn in fancy liberal arts college

BTW, Indians on the board care. I care. I care about all the people who come on this board and read some bullshit like that and think, “what do you expect – it’s Texas.”

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

alright

First, you should stop trying to make this personal, when I’m trying to hold a respectful debate with you

Secondly, how would you explain the fact that lower socio-economic demographics tend to be less racially sensitive with their verbiage?

My argument is that because you learn to be PC through training (i.e. education or through Public Relations trainings), not by some fundamental characteristic that you have as being racist or not

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That doesn't make it "elitist."

Education is not “elitist.”

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

And using or not using racist language

is not simply a matter of being “politically correct.”

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Having an expectation for a non-educated person

of a trait that you picked up through the education you were blessed to be able to receive is elitist, imo

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

having lowered expectations for non educated people

when we are talking about something like human interaction and not calculus is elitist.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree with your opinion,

as well as your assumptions about what it is to be “non-educated.”

In fact, I think you’re being far more “elitist” than anyone here, so far as that goes.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It is an opinion.

When you share your opinion publicly, and in the process apply labels to certain people, however, that’s something else again, no?

Something else that might garner a reaction. And you can either ignore that reaction, or disagree with it, or learn from it?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't understand the point you are trying to make

all racists have reasons for being racists and it usually has something to do with the way they are brought up.

I’m supposed to be more understanding of a person if they are poor rather than if they are rich and went to liberal arts school and then became a racist? Really? That is your point?

And you’re not supposed to cal out the lower socio economic demographics when they are racist? I should “let it go” because “it’s not hurting anybody.” Is that your point?

Because you’re absolutely wrong. and being really stupid about it.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

you keep a) making it personal and b) changing my words around

lower-socioeconomic groups are not excusably more racist, if they are being racist than they are shit heads

they are excusably less racially-sensitive when it comes to their words, I don’t care if they waste the time to dance around their beliefs about the differences between races

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you think word choice

is generally disconnected from intended meaning?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

nope

but if you change your word choice from one thing (after you realized it could be interpreted wrongly)

to another thing that is more PC, your underlying belief hasn’t changed, you’re just reflecting your ability to tread carefully on these issues

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you believe realizing

a word (or words) could be interpreted wrongly, and taking action to change your choice of language, is generally disconnected from thinking about the underlying issues that make certain word choices liable to misinterpretation?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

Do you think word choice
is generally disconnected from intended meaning?

Particularly for the less educated among us.

by JDT217 on Dec 13, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

what does personal mean

cause I keep calling you stupid? well deal with that because that’s just how I talk.

and politically correctness isn’t some exercise in perfecting speech. people actually get offended by being racially insensitive. I like how you are trying to separate out the two but no dice. people don’t like it. it needs to stop. if I see it, I will call you out in the same aggressive manner I call everybody out on everything.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

and by the way, 2legit

he’s basically calling you an ignorant hick. I’m not really sure but I give it 50% chance that you’ll just accept the out.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

"A person who lives in the country,

regarded as being unintelligent or provincial."

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Now, if he'd called you a "cracker"...

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends on how you define "racist,"

would be some folks’ argument.

But I write that at the risk of it being dismissed as “something you learn in liberal arts university classes,” and thus “elitist,” or some such.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't say you learn to not be racist in universities

I said you learn how to be “racially sensative” as in “Politically Correct”

I took a course on racism in film talking about the Veggie Tales series is racist… I think it’s ridiculous that we have that sort of expectation for ourselves

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, you didn't quite write that.

You wrote that racial sensitivity is an elitist expectation, and strongly connected both (racial sensitivity and elitism) to things you learn in the classrooms of “liberal arts universities” (whatever those are).

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

And I think you're making an awful lot

of these “expectations for ourselves,” which no on here has really raised.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

"expectations"

I’m referring to how society tends to blow up anytime someone messes up in the slightest with regard to race

i.e. The Spanish National Basketball team’s photo where they did “asian eyes” - the U.S. tried to make it a huge deal, while not even the Chinese cared

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

The Chinese Basketball team

said they didn’t care and that their country did not care about PC like ours did

dipshit

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The Chinese

were still incredibly angry about it nearly a year afterwards.

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan

by FirebatM3 on Dec 12, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

especially the Chinese

in China.

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan

by FirebatM3 on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

honestly

i don’t see how that would matter. so what if it is the chinese here. you are saying they are just wusses and shouldn’t be so sensitive?

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

that was quite the inferential jump you just made. you’re good at putting words in people’s mouths

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

don't say anything stupid

or maybe you should just keep your mouth shut unless you’ve gotten some liberal arts learning like I have

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I went to Austin College in Sherman

I think you’re looking for more of a fight than I’m giving you.

I’m very thankful for the education, and I think the world would be a better place if everyone got one.

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

x

Here

Maybe it’s just a cultural misunderstanding

Maybe I’m biased bc I studied in Spain for a year, but you have to understand that different cultures view these issues in different lights. People’s feelings aren’t hurt when you describe them as they are physically.

Not a big deal though, you can reply and I’ll let it drop

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

are you serious?

this is some spaniard saying it’s not a big deal- not the chinese. I can see why you like the article because it basically sounds like you.

and i guess aussies are allowed to wear blackface, etc.

whatever. you’re entitled to your opinion. just don’t spread it like you are an enlightened conservative battling the elitsts. you’re just a moron.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

lol you are ignorant as shit

a) im liberal as they come
b)

As for the photo of the basketball team, the reaction in China has been muted. A spokesman for the Chinese apparel company Li Ning, a sponsor for the Spanish team, told The Associated Press last week that the company does not “think this is an insult to the Chinese.” New York Times columnist Harvey Araton showed the photo to two Chinese staffers in the newspaper’s Beijing office. “Neither viewed it with surprise or disgust, but more with bewilderment,” Araton wrote
.
c) I’ve never claimed I’m enlightened, I said I had an opinion that a lot of people disagree with
d) I love how the basis of your counter-argument is to ignore what I’ve said and claim that I support blatant racism

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed they did

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan

by FirebatM3 on Dec 12, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Surely I wasn't the first person at 4 in the afternoon on a Saturday who asked about Rich Harden, asshole.

The kid didn’t need to respond in a rude tone of voice. Especially when working in retail.

by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 12, 2009 5:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

you should write a letter to the rangers

i’m sure you’ll be able to get him fired. or promoted – one or the other

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

respectful yes

i don’t see what the disrespect was. He seemed to have perceived some attitude but he perceived it wrong

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

was that you trying to be funny?

I guess it’s just a matter of time before you start crying about your lot in life

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

You would too

If there weren’t any high-class pizza joints in your immediate vicinity at all times.

by brettgardner on Dec 12, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

haha

For the last time, I seek what you would probably call low class pizza joints. The kind that serve it by the slice. NY style pizza is nothing fancy, for shit’s sake.

And if you really want to know I found what I was looking for. Life is just great.

by Black Francis on Dec 12, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

meh

My lot in life is pretty good. I can’t complain.

It’s a map of India. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

by Black Francis on Dec 12, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet it's tough to get to the part in the east that is separated from the rest of India.

Except by that narrow isthmus.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

From Wikipedia re: Bangladesh

The borders of present-day Bangladesh were established with the partition of Bengal and India in 1947, when the region became the eastern wing of the newly formed Pakistan. However, it was separated from the western wing by 1,600 km (994 mi) across India. Political and linguistic discrimination as well as economic neglect led to popular agitations against West Pakistan, which led to the war for independence in 1971 and the establishment of Bangladesh. After independence the new state endured famines, natural disasters and widespread poverty, as well as political turmoil and military coups. The restoration of democracy in 1991 has been followed by relative calm and economic progress.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 12, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

i guess if it was black guy

you would have posted a map of Africa?

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Dec 12, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

No

If he said he was “Africa looking” I would have, though.

by Black Francis on Dec 12, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

wtf?

how do you not get what you just said…

what if you said, “the black kid was rude and completely clueless”

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Dec 12, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

just admit your mistake

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Dec 12, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

OT question about CJ to the rotation

First, does CJ have an option left? If so, could the team send him to OKC to continue to stretch out for a month, and gain a year of control?

Ranger fans say "NO! NO!" to Go Go.
Keep Reinsdorf's chub from ruining my club.

by tricer on Dec 12, 2009 4:40 PM CST reply actions  

ha ha

What do you think he would choose?

1. RP with FA in 2012
2. Possible SP with FA in 2013.

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Dec 12, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Right now he has 4.055 days of service time

To add an extra year of team control you would probably have to keep him down for 70 days or so, (middle part of June roughly)

Yes he does have an option left.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He has said in the past that

he would be will to go to the minors as a SP. I am not sure how he feels now.

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Dec 12, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Will Carroll
I think Wang would be a great fit for Rangers or Pirates. Pirates bc of PR value, Rangers bc of med team and sinkerball.

Med Team?

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

Medical team

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Dec 12, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I know what med team means

but I don’t understand why Wang should sign with us because of it. Unless he’s looking for a diagnosis of Thoracic Outlet Syndrome.

by MikeEl on Dec 12, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

well

I’ll defer to Will Carroll on whether we have a good med team or not, but this is the first time I’m hearing about it as a strength.

Although I will echo the sentiment to some degree – what med successes have we had? Is Bradley the only one?

I wonder if this factored into Harden’s decision at all.

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Keith Meister is well respected around the league.

I know he performed the surgery on Ben Sheets.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Dec 12, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Carroll is extremely high on our medical team

Also, in discussing the Harden signing, the guys on XM yesterday right before lunch were praising Harden for going to a team with one of the most advanced medical teams in the game.

The TOS deal gets a laugh, but some speculation is that it’s a much more common injury than we think. Basically, TOS causes lots of other problems and its just not diagnosed because not every medical staff catches it.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Dec 12, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

So we have the Dr. House of MLB.

And TOS = Lupus.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 12, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Lupus, is it lupus??

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Dec 12, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

IIRC

Will has done some consulting work for/with the Rangers’ medical staff as well, so it would seem that he’s in as good of a position to know about its relative strengths and weaknesses as anybody.

by Joey Matschulat on Dec 12, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

And if he is?

Boy your face is going to be red.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 12, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well if he is

I don’t want him because that means he’ll be getting a rib removed and miss the season.

by MikeEl on Dec 12, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

You just can't beat some good Wang

I wonder which team will grab Wang and slide him into their rotation? Think JD could sneak Wang in the backdoor?

Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."

by Pocket Ninja on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions  

"Think JD could sneak Wang in the backdoor"

That’s the best one yet.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Of those guys

I’d be interested in Church and maybe Johnson as a utility guy if he could play short. Church I think is primed for a rebound year, though his place on this team would probably be limited to 5th OF/DH…

by MikeEl on Dec 12, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions  

Random...you're a genius if you can name the starting rotation next year

OK, Harden, Hunter, Feldman, and two others from the group of Holland, Feliz, Harrison, Hurley, McCarthy, etc.

I can’t wait to see how this shakes out…

Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine

by TedFord on Dec 12, 2009 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

Harden/Feldman/Holland are locks.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

McCarthy and Harrison

Holland, Hurley and Feliz break the season in AAA rotation with Holland getting the first call up.

by MikeEl on Dec 12, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Harrison, Holland

I don’t think they dick Holland around again.

Hunter vs. someone else, not so sure

by ab03 on Dec 12, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't either.

When he gets a callup it will be for the rotation.

by MikeEl on Dec 12, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

No Hunter?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah ~ I was just going off sprite's list,

and if you add McCarthy and Harrison, you wind up with a starting five…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Dec 12, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there's very little chance...

…Harrison starts the season in the rotation, barring an injury to someone.

by Adam J. Morris on Dec 12, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he'll surprise people in Spring Training

and I think they’ll want Holland a Feliz to get more consistency with their secondary pitches in AAA.

by MikeEl on Dec 12, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

In no particular order

Harden, Feldman, Hunter, McCarthy, Holland

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 12, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I like how the majority of this

is devoted to gift shop employees and their ethnicity

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Dec 12, 2009 5:35 PM CST reply actions  

That's the off-season for you, I suppose

and the other half of the thread is dedicated to Wang

by BuckyB on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Naw, that happens

during the season here, too.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Dec 12, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The legacy of Texas_Dawg lives on

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"WHAT A SHITLOAD OF FUCK" - LL's "Poochie" on Rich Harden signing with Texas over Seattle

by LSJ on Dec 12, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't believe if you type in "Do you like this gig"

into youtube there are no hits.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Dec 12, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

Hah

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Dec 12, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd take him

probably won’t cost more than the $3 million they are talking about for Lowell. That you don’t have to give up anything for him is an even better bonus.

by Dalman on Dec 12, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Already mentioned?

Rangers re-sign Esteban German.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Dec 12, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

Interested in Ryan Garko?

Non-tendered by SF.

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Dec 12, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions  

Adam Miller

Could we get him on a minor league deal? I know lots of injury problems, but with a low risk deal he has a great arm.

by peachygbc_1 on Dec 13, 2009 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

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