Selig: Today is a "hard and fast deadline" for Tom Hicks
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 PM CST
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PrintMaury Brown has a story up on his website, discussing how Bud Selig says that today is a "hard and fast deadline" for Tom Hicks to decide who the buyer for the Rangers is going to be.
I'm not entirely sure what, if anything, Bud can or would do if Hicks doesn't act by today, but I guess Selig could say, MLB has decided that group X is going to be the buyer, and try to strip Hicks of any decision-making powers whatsoever in this regard.
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Well let's hope Bud doesn't get to choose for him...
Not that I trust Hicks, but I’m assuming Bud would select Gilbert.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
Bailout
MLB could have included some type condition when it extended credit to Hicks. Otherwise, it made little sense for Hicks to abide by a self-imposed deadline.
by Neftali's arm on Dec 15, 2009 2:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Hard and fast deadline
unless “there are some factors, that frankly, need another day or two”.
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 15, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions
Doesn't sound hard and fast to me...
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
That's what she said?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
so she's blind in this case
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Dec 15, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Just like lady justice
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
At least
this whole ordeal hasn’t been a public embarrassment to the entire organization and its fans.
The India ones.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 15, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Dots or feathers?
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Dec 15, 2009 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I need some positive news today
make a damn decision, and let’s hope that it’s Greenberg
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Dec 15, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
There are not enough profanities to properly enunciate my desire to have Hicks gone.
Tom, if you ever cared about this town or this team’s fans, do us all a favor and pick Greenberg/Ryan, and get the hell out of Dodge.
Oh wait, no one will buy the Stars.
Hicks
will be part of the Greenberg group, no?
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 15, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
yeah,
minority
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Dec 15, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
I was to understand that's the Jim Crane group
but it might be Greenberg too. As long as it’s minority ownership and we don’t have to see his liverspotted old mug anymore…
it's both groups
Gilbert is the only one that I understand won’t have him as a part of it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Dec 15, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure Bud could
tell the lenders that the franchise is theirs. I really don’t think Hicks would have much say in the matter.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Hard and fast?
Considering the fucking that Tom Hicks has given his team’s fanbase over the years has been painfully long and slow, it seems somehow poetic that the public fucking he is set to receive will be the inverse.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
- Life
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Dec 15, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
How many...
hard and fast Bud Selig jokes can we fit into one thread?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
The magic number 7, + or - 2
It works like hard deadlines (except when it doesn’t)
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Dec 15, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Zero
Because he cannot attain either…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
oh I think there's still room for more.
-twss
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Some other stuff from the earlier thread
Evan says Hicks told him via email that he will be tied up with the NHL owners meetings, but he will make a descision today.
Durrett says Nolan called Hicks this morning to let him know that Greenberg’s group wants to up their offer.
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 15, 2009 2:35 PM CST reply actions
Go Greenberg go!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
TR has some ownership updates
http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/12/what_we_know_about_the_rangers.html
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
TR's predicition
Prediction: Greenberg
1. They are financially solid with local backing.
2. Ryan stays with the team.
3. Hicks is able to stay with the team as a minority partner and be a part of the new group building on what has been started here.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 15, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Any chance Hicks picks Crane knowing the rest of the owners won't give it an okay..
..just so Hicks can buy more time to put a group together and retain ownership?
I would, shit man, I don’t know what I’d do if that happened….
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Evan
threw that out there as a possibility
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
it's certainly possible
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 15, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
That hit me this afternoon as well
and that is exactly what I expect to happen.
Another scenario that I thought up: A sale like this can take up to 90 days to finalize, and either party can walk with little or no repercussion. Tom will take everyone of those days, find a reason to submarine the deal, and come up w/ his own financing.
by Sherman McCoy on Dec 15, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
I've heard a couple of people suggest this.
I would be irate if this is what happened.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
that would be the ultimate Leechness Monster
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Cowlishaw on Twitter:
Think Rangers will be announcing start of negotiating period with Houston businessman Jim Crane very soon. Probably today.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
aids
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 15, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
* Hicks is obviously torn between holding on to the team and selling so he can pay off the substantial debt built up by the Hicks Sports Group. Major League Baseball wants it resolved and debt only gets worse if left alone.
torn? i thought he is pretty much being forced to sell for the second reason
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
HSG is being forced to sell
Tom Hicks personally can remain part of the ownership though, assuming he has the cash available.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Of course
if he had enough money for controlling interest, he could recapitalize HSG. He just doesn’t have the cash to do anything other than be a minority partner.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Not necessarily
I don’t know how HSG is organized, but theoretically there could be some sort of restrictions or provisions in the organizing agreement/certificate of formation that make it difficult or unwise to recapitalize with personal funds.
Or alternatively, Hicks and his financial advisers, CPAs, and lawyers may have decided that it would be a poor financial decision to throw more of his net worth at a troubled entity.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Truth is
Hicks just wants to use other folks money and keep his control. It works out well if you can get away with it. I don’t think he has the personal wealth to recapitalize HSG tho
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Thanks Tiger
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Pass the Gin
Durrett says Nolan called Hicks this morning to let him know that Greenberg’s group wants to up their offer.
Thus, the Crane-as-ginning-component works, just as Utay’s group did with the Cubs sale.
I've been on the Greenberg bandwagon this whole time...
but Jim Crane – man I dig the guy’s style, coming out of left field when he wasn’t even considered a serious runner
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Does it seem people here are against Crane?
I don’t know much about him, but there doesn’t seem to be a big positive vibe for him getting back on board.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 15, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
We're worried this is true
But even if HIcks chooses Crane or one of the others, I’m not so sure this means a sale announcement is sure to follow by the end of the year. The general feeling in baseball is that HIcks is doing whatever he can to hang on to the club. In Crane, Hicks would be choosing a buyer who might have a troublesome path to approval. Already White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf is on record as endorsing Gilbert. Astros owner Drayton McLane is not a fan of Crane’s. Both owners have clout with the ownership committee. If Hicks spend the next 45 days negotiating the parameters of a deal with Crane only to find out he’s not going to get approved, it would buy the current Rangers owner more time to try and put together his own group.
So, it’s still not clear if Hicks’ intent is to sell the Rangers or to buy himself more time.
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 15, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Other than that
I think most people are on board. Evidently he has the most money…
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
any owner that other owners dislike
is an owner I like…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Dec 15, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Unless you name is Hicks...
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Yep
I think most people here want Greenberg because the transition period is that much easier. He’s going to keep things in place and likely won’t have problems getting approved. No one else is that easy of a solution.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
It seems the majority here (except 1 in particular),
are definitley hoping the pieces of THIS puzzle don’t fall apart with new ownership.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 15, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
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