Rangers moves
INF Esteban German and LHP Clay Rapada both cleared waivers and were removed from the 40-man roster Wednesday. Both were outrighted to Triple-A Oklahoma City. It leaves the Rangers with 38 players on the 40-man roster.
The Rangers have also signed RHP Geoff Geary and INF Ray Olmedo to minor league deals with invitations to spring training.
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No surprise about German
And the search continues for a back up IF that can play SS.
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Have we heard anything from the Rangers about Young playing SS
Every single rumor we’ve been hearing about util IFs has us looking at guys who haven’t exactly been known to play SS. It looks more and more like the plan is for Young to be the main back-up. I wouldn’t mind that if we get a good back-up 3B option.
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Geoff Geary
I am pretty pumped about this move. Up until last year he was a very consistent middle reliever. There’s a pretty good chance that he’ll have as good of a year or better than half of the relievers that sign million dollar deals this offseason…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
"Consistent" is really not how I'd describe Geary
He had a couple pretty good years in 2006 and 2008, but they where sandwiched in between very “meh” years in 2007 and 2009.
I like that we’ve picked him up, as there seems to be some potential there, but he’s anything but a guy who used to be consistently good.
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he's consistently good
every other year.
that’s obviously what i meant.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Touche
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Last year he struggled because of injury
but should be good to go this season. I think he’ll provide a big lift to the bullpen this year.
I thought we were at 39 before this on the 40 man
The Snyder pick put us at 38 and signing German made it 39. Am I missing a transaction?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Umm
Esteban German and LHP Clay Rapada both cleared waivers and were removed from the 40-man roster
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yeah
It leaves the Rangers with 38 players on the 40-man roster
I thought we were at 39 before this on the 40 man
40-2=38
39-2=37
Which is it? Were we at 39 or 40 before these moves?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
ok nevermind
I forgot when we traded Millwood we got back Ray who went on the 40 along with signing Harden which put us at 40. For some reason I was thinking getting rid of Millwood and signing Harden didn’t change our 40
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Room was made for a reason...
Erik Bedard. Matt Capps. One of the recent non-tendered, right-handed bats.
My guess is that in the next day or two we’ll see one of those spots filled.
Capps
There’s a guy who would make me feel a ton better about the possibility of CJ moving to the rotation.
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I still don't know
the fascination with that move. Is the upside of CJ Wilson really that much greater than a Brandon McCarthy? I’m hoping it’s just a quick spring fling.
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They might just want him to finally get it out of his system.
If the move does work out, it gives the Rangers room to move a starter for some other piece – a catcher and/or someone who can hit lefties.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 16, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
But it also makes the dropoff between Fx2 and the rest of the bullpen pretty big (and also increases the temptation to put Feliz there as a consequence). I don’t think DoD should be expected to duplicate his 2009 campaign, and he and Fx2 would be left as the only late-inning guys out there if CJ moves.
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I see him as more of a mid-reiliever, a Jason Grilli-level guy
Unless he has an out-of-nowhere DoD type of year, we’re likely in trouble if he holds a significant late-inning role.
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rotation leftovers?
Harrison/McCarthy/Holland/Hurley
I wouldn't count Holland as a "rotation leftover"
Harrison or McCarthy… maybe their stuff could play up enough one inning at a time for a late inning role. I see Hurley in the ‘pen eventually, but he’ll have to get healthy first and even then theres no telling how effective he’ll be coming off shoulder problems.
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My point is
that we’ve got a ton of guys who are potentially capable of stepping in to fill the role and odds are that at the very least one or two will pan out.
That being said
I’d still rather have CJ in the bullpen unless he ends up throwing nothing but shutout innings filled with strikeouts during spring training without hurting himself. And I’d guess the chances of that happening are pretty small.
My guess is
The Rangers stick Feliz in the bullpen when CJ has a Kam Loe type spring.
CJ will eventually blow up and go back to the ‘pen, and the Rangers will wind up Brandon Morrow-ing the shit out of Feliz as he takes CJ’s place in the roto, struggles, and gets sent back to the ’pen down the stretch.
You know, the worst case scenario. Always the most likely.
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I think Feliz opens the season in a rotation
either with Texas or in AAA, but definitely as a starter.
He's not opening the season in Texas as a starter
If he’s starting (and he needs to be, IMO) his innings/pitch counts need to be closely monitored early in the year, otherwise we’ll have to shut him down late in the season.
If you want there to be any chance of him contributing significantly as a starter down the stretch, you need to (A, limit his innings and (B, get him fully acclimated to a starting role, no bouncing back and forth between starting and the ’pen like with Holland.
Only place you can do both of those things in OKC.
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And in my estimation
He could probably use a month or two in AAA anyway, to refine his command and his changeup as much as possible.
My guess however, is the Rangers will want him contributing to the big league team as much as possible next year, and hence will start him in the ’pen.
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yeah I think he ends up in AAA
I was just saying that I think his time in the bullpen is done until we use him as a lights out bullpen guy in the playoffs.
I really don't want CJ to win a rotation spot
based on a few innings in spring training.
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I think those innings
would just show whether he can still pitch as a starter. He’s got the stuff, but its still to be seen if he has the stamina or has trouble going after hitters multiple times in a game.
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I guess I'm mainly curious to see how it would work out
I hope it works out for the best, but I can’t really see CJ being much more than average (if even that) if he’s put into the rotation this season. It mostly just seems like a waste to put CJ in the rotation over our other capable options who could use the development time more than CJ while giving a similar kind of performance. And CJ in the bullpen helps that remain a strength.
Then again, when dealing with an rotation full of unproven/injury concern guys, its probably not a bad idea to get as many solid options there as possible.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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Capps has made it clear he wants to be a closer.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 16, 2009 9:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Now that
the orioles have signed Mike Gonzo, who else needs a closer? WHere is he getting the opportunity.
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Is St. Louis
still going to use Franklin?
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They gave him
a pretty nice deal.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
That's dumb
but he’ll probably turn into the best closer ever.
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2 years/$6.5M
so not that bad of a deal.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
Despite the fact that
he was traded for Mike Jacobs.
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Joel Harnahan?
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Cinncinnati?
Maybe Pittsburgh? Washington?
One of the not so good franchises.
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I don't know
they have other places to spend $$, and Matt Capps isn’t exactly an upgrade to Brian Fuentes.
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Yet another reason that the designated role of "closer" is such an outmoded concept.
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No joke.
What’s up with Robby B not playing? Is he injured?
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
No room with Howard back
and “Barera” playing well.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
I am starting to hate Barea.
Carlisle only played 8 guys today. Thomas also didn’t get a minute.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
Well, Thomas sucks.
But I don’t know why the rotation was so tight today. Doesn’t matter, as long as they get the W.
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Thomas is meh
but Barea pisses me off.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
Why does Barea piss you off?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
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Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
He can't finish and
he sucks defensively. I used to like him a lot last year.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
Or, maybe he's rolling with 8 because the other players are making hard work out of sex?
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
kinda rookie question
but when do these guys get paid on their contracts?
monthly? weekly?
can’t we sign someone now considering we won’t have to pay them til the new ownership group is in position by opening day?
I remember reading somewhere
that they could probably make some small deal for a player and get approval from Chuck and Co. But since they don’t have complete ownership yet, its too risky to agree to any significant deal. So we could probably sign someone on a 1 year /$7.5 million deal (given what they have now to spend) and just get approval from the new ownership group, but guaranteeing more than a few million wouldn’t be possible.
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Garret Atkins signs with Orioles.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 16, 2009 9:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
On the one hand I don't care
On the other, this means the Lowell trade is more likely.
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Meh
I don’t think anyone was really too attached to Garret Atkins, either here or in the FO.
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"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
T.R. Sullivan...
is going to be devastated.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 16, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
His shitty performance
was one of the reasons Hurdle got fired in Colorado. Why would he want him around here in Texas too?
Looking at rookie cards
is so weird, especially for players @ the end of their careers.
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Baltimore
where formerly decent players go to get paid well and play mediocre ball.
That deal is still alive, but the Rangers — who would send catcher Max Ramirez to Boston — are waiting for Lowell to undergo a complete physical.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
I wish Jermaine Dye would stop popping up at the top of our "other DH alternatives" lists
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Whats the big deal.. its been nearly a week.
All trades involves physicals, they don’t usually take a week to go through.. if he fails it he fails it and we can move on.
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i suppose
but its not like they knew they were serious about lowell when we did, seems like they could have lined something up by now.
granted none of this makes any difference for the team, just me as an impatient fan.
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Also could be stalling
until a little ownership dust clears and they get the ok to go with a FA bat instead of Lowell?
I doubt that makes any difference
My guess is there are legit questions about Lowell’s health, the Rangers are just fucking obsessed with Lowell’s intangibles.
Could be a sign that Nolan really is taking over the baseball ops (rabble rabble)?
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"complete" physical
Does that mean he has to like, turn his head and cough, and the dr. gets out the rubber gloves and all? I’m picturing Fletch here.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
You don't actually have to turn and cough now
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Oh Snap!
Switch-hitting 1B/OF Jason Botts will get a Major League Spring Training invite from the White Sox
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didn't he hit like .100 in Japan?
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by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 16, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
More like .254 with 5 HUGE BOMBS over the 240 ft left field wall in their Sapparo Dome.
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
I remember that he
In his first season he hit like .120 for the first few weeks in japan, but then in the last couple weeks he was great, over .300 with lots of XBH.
I never saw stats for his second season, but since he got cut from the team early on it couldn’t have been good.
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Sox train in AZ, too
We could actually see him this March.
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Need to get some people to do the jason botts cheer
they did in japan. (that was really mocking him).
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Vlad
can i get a flash poll on who would like to sign him on a year ~6 million dollar deal?
I know a few people who are adamantly opposed but I’m not sure if the site in general would want it to happen or not. Obviously not many people will really reply to this, but oh well.
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meh
rather have a guy that can take a walk with MY and Josh in the middle of our lineup
Part of the reason I'd rather have Jack Cust
But I’ve come around on Vlad a bit. He and Cust have literally been the exact same player overall production-wise the last three years.
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I think the casual fan who doesn't recognize his problems
would love getting him and cheer loudly on opening day.
i recognize the problems but I still think hes a better bet than many of the options, at least the ones that don’t require two roster spots.
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The casual fan would see it as a huge signing
Mostly due to name recognition, without considering that he’s on the decline.
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It hurts too much...
to watch him swing. I’ve always liked Vlad but the only reason I would want him here is so that he wouldn’t have to play against us.
I am in on Vlad for 1 year 6 mil
Borbon
Young
Kinsler
Hamilton
Vlad
He adds to the undisciplined hackers…..but at this point he is probably the best option, and it would keep him from signing a cheap deal with the Angels.
by death of the cool on Dec 17, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
I'm on the no side because of that undisciplined angle.
The first time he swings and dribbles a pitch that hit the dirt 4 inches in front of the plate with the bases loaded, we’ll crucify him. I just remember the GDT’s and other threads where we were begging everyone on the team to take a pitch and stop with the 3 pitch at-bats. Vlad does not push us towards plate discipline. Vlad would easily raise my blood pressure 20 points each time he’s up.
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
So I guess you want Barry Zito too
That guy was nails in Arlington
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Vladimir's dominance at the ballpark is far greater than Zito's
Zito was no better in Arlington than he was at his own home.
And Vlads dominance had nothing to do with the fact he was facing our pitching did it
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
what was it then?
Vlad beat up our pitching in the past which hasn’t exactly been full of Cy Youngs and Zito was pretty damn impressive in Arlington against our offenses in years past when we’ve had some damn fine offenses.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
You inferred that Zito's performance in Arlington paralled Vlad's
I simply said no, no it didn’t. That’s it.
I said Zito was dominant in Arlington just like Vlad
11-1, 3.75 ERA in almost 100 innings, almost 8 K/9, Held us to a .218 AVG and a 700 OPS.
Given the quality of offenses Zito was facing vs the quality of pitching Vlad was facing I would say they are pretty comparable
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
And I said that Zito put up similar numbers at home
minus the win%, and better numbers in other parks. Vlad was at his best in Arlington. That is all i’m saying.
OK well I see no reason you needed to interject that since it had nothing to do with my original reply
iblum said he wanted Vlad and cited Vlads average in Arlington. I merely pointed out Zito was pretty good in Arlington too and look how that turned out.
Not to say I wouldn’t mind Vlad but his success in our ballpark should not be the primary reason we sign him. It really shouldn’t be much of a bulletpoint since he was doing that against us and our pitching during that time hasn’t exactly set the world on fire
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Vlad at 6 mil...
wouldn’t be my first option, but I’d be ok with it.
Certainly better than losing MaxRam and paying Lowell 3 mil imo.
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Geoff Geary
That’s a good non-roster signing. He could be a productive member of next year’s bullpen.
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