Thursday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 17, 2009 8:17 AM CST
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PrintThe stories this morning are still largely about the ownership issue...
T.R. Sullivan writes that the best-case scenario is that the new ownership group is in place by Opening Day, but that nothing is going to happen in time to change what the Rangers are able to do this offseason. Sullivan also writes that the Rangers expect to have Mike Lowell in for a physical this week, and that their interest in a front-line catcher has waned, with the team being more inclined to bring in a someone to compete for a job, rather than a John Buck type established major leaguer.
Richard Durrett offers highlights from Chuck Greenberg's comments to the media yesterday. He's saying all the right things, including that there will be more money in the budget for payroll that there is right now, and that he's going to let the baseball people run the baseball side of things.
Sullivan has a story up with quotes from Nolan Ryan about the change in ownership, with Ryan saying that he does not expect significant changes.
Jeff Wilson writes that, at one time, Chuck Greenberg had David McDavid, not Nolan Ryan, has his primary local partner.
Randy Galloway has a column up on Ryan has team president, talking about the Matt Purke situation and Ryan's efforts to install his own people in the baseball side, saying that some in Ryan's camp think he's been too slow in removing the "other element" from the baseball side of things.
Esteban German and Clay Rapada have each cleared waivers and been outrighted, reducing the 40 man roster to 38. In addition Geoff Geary and Ray Olmedo have signed minor league deals.
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Dang it
Dont want to read the Galloway article, but may actually haveto
Wasn't that bad today
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
2nd!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
That was me who said
Nolan was Galloway’s source.
A very cryptic RG column and one of his best in a while.
“The other element” made me giggle.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Of course you would know...
You are RG.
by MikeEl on Dec 17, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
What else could this mean?
“For his friendly forces in the organization, Ryan has not moved fast enough, or harshly enough, in removing the other element. But his loyalty to Hicks remained a constant, and Hicks had certain people he wanted to stay in place. Some of those people can now be nervous.”
And then there’s this little gem…
“The Purke family felt deceived, and rightfully so, and then some fools in the organization planted stories blaming the father and inflating the figure the Rangers offered the kid. The gullible never learn, and the other sheep are on the team’s payroll. "
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I like how when you quote your own article
you don’t use the block quotes.
because
I don’t see that quote about “friendly forces”.
I think this could also be why Adam never bans you
because as much as Adam might dislike Randy Galloway, he might like knowing the reporter is hanging around his blog.
by MikeEl on Dec 17, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Paranoia may destroy ya'"
What is to dislike about the RG column today?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
well if you look at my earlier comment
it’s actually an interesting and well-written article for a change
if true….
by MikeEl on Dec 17, 2009 6:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say I didn’t like it. I was trying to compliment you on it.
I've always thought the exact same thing
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know man
it kinda makes me laugh every time I see it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Dec 17, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
So what does our remaining offseason consist of
A scrub catcher
A bat(Which I find less likely with the lowel deal)
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
JD has said quite a few times
that he’d like to add a pitcher. Of course, that pitcher could be Colby Lewis or someone of that ilk, but all the same, expect at least one or two more arms added in some capacity…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
heard on the radio that Drayton McLane is putting the Astros on the market
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
He denies it according to MLBTRADERUMORS
He says he would listen to a reasonable offer but he has no plans on selling.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Norm had that on his show yesterday
Apparently the ’Stros were already on the market last year, but it was very hush-hush.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
That's when Jim Crane supposedly backed out
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
So, I'm hoping Washington is the guy who is in trouble here, not JD, Thad, and co.
by octoberty on Dec 17, 2009 8:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
What has Sunny done wrong?
He’s the one that sat with Nolan several times next to the dugout this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
is this an attempt to rile up the board?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Go stick your dick
in a turkey, ryin.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Wait
You’ve never seen him be a jerk and just start using poorly thought out expletives? You’re new around here, aren’t you?
by FuturePants on Dec 17, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Relatively new
But very familiar with Josey. Usually I just see him making asinine Rangers comments and then making futile attempts to defend them.
Oh, you've missed some of his great exploits then
He’s a master of name calling and insults once he reaches his breaking point in getting his ass whipped in arguments.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Have you checked out the Josey hijacking fanpost?
Josey is now Uncle Josey. Ryin A offered a terrific correlation between the “crazy” uncle during the holidays and JW.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
That kinda hurts my feelings...but I'm still gonna rec it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure how sticking
your dick in a turkey accomplishes anything.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 17, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
very
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 17, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Actually I've forgotten how old I am,
can you tell me please?
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Gotcha
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 17, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Shut up paperboy
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
What exactly has RW done to deserve getting canned?
Almost taking a team with one of the lowest payrolls in baseball to the post-season not good enough for you?
Beating a dead horse
isn’t a lot of fun this time of the year.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 17, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
I don't seem to remember anyone predicting this team to make the playoffs before last season.
Ron was a really good pick by JD. I like the way this team plays for him.
Doesn;t mean they didn't have the possibility
I’m not a huge RW fan, but I don’t necessarily think he needs to be fired yet. The players play hard
I'm just saying this team exceeded everyone's expectations last year.
It’s just stupid that RW gets no credit for that, only blame that this team didn’t win the WS or something. Joe Torre as manager would not have made a bit of difference last year.
I was trying to reply to Bucky with the ding
IMO, RW lacks the game management gene. His moves boggle the mind. The players do play hard for him. I just think they win despite him. I guess I could compare it to Josey here at LSB. The blogs entertains and informs me despite Josey’s thread jacking and the General Disarray inflicted by his presence.
Your 2009 Snow Monkey Ambassador
From his August column on the Purke dustup
Daniels and Co. have done the job. Purke was supposed to be the latest coup. Rated a top 10, first-round talent, he slipped to the Rangers at 14 because his money demands were known to be very high, too high for other clubs. But the Rangers took him with the belief they could sign him, even at $6 million, a figure I had confirmed by an inside voice the day of the draft.
As of Tuesday, Purke was being hammered by some team apologists, and called greedy for going to TCU after reportedly turning down $4 million from the Rangers. And there are also organizational voices talking bad about him and his father, attempting to save their own butts. Not any of those voices, not that I heard, belonged to anyone on the Rangers’ baseball side. They know the truth
So, RG refutes
RG’s constant, repetitive shrilling of his version of the truth?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
mjh, What's your take on the JD / Nolan relationship?
What’s your take on giving up Max for Lowell?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I still think
that the “upfront and honest” portion of that article may not refer to any of the Purke stuff at all. The Purke stuff is about Ryan hating not being able to follow through on his word. The people who haven’t been up front and honest may be some grumblers who didn’t like the pitching regimens or resisted them. Or maybe those who resisted making changes at the manager position last year…
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I have a difficult time imagining
where JD misled Nolan on the Purke signing as well but something else obviously happened that angered Nolan or this column wouldn’t have appeared.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Do you even read?
something else obviously happened that angered Nolan
It’s pretty clear what angered Nolan, at least according to Grandpa Urine:
And now, more than ever. Fast-forward to last summer, when Ryan and Daniels were dealt a high-low blow in the failure to sign top draft pick Matt Purke, now at TCU.
Ryan was livid the next day, although he refused to discuss the circumstances. Other sources, however, confirmed that Major League Baseball had refused to provide the money needed, plus, it was learned MLB had been bankrolling the team due to the Hicks’ financial flop.
Nolan’s anger and disappointment, however, was mainly based on him having given his word to Purke’s father that the team would draft Matt and also sign him at an amount agreed upon.
That amount, $6 million, Ryan thought had been guaranteed by MLB at the time Ryan made a deal with the father. But when the signing deadline came for Daniels, he was forced to offer a figure much less, not even half as much.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I can understand why Nolan would be pissed at Hicks
if he wasn’t told that MLB was bankrolling the team and wouldn’t provide them with enough funds for Purke but RG;s article infers that there is somebody else, “the other element” currently within the organization that should now be nervous.
The principles of the team last year were Hicks, Ryan and JD.
Who the hell else could it be other than JD?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
That's not what your post that I responded to was about though
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Doesn't this confusion sort of underscore
what a crappy, irresponsible piece this was by Galloway? He writes something that - given his back catalog vis-a-vis Daniels, Ryan and the Rangers - strongly implies that Ryan is about to fire Daniels because he’s upset with Daniels about not being honest with him in the Purke ordeal, when only three months ago, he made it clear that the dishonest leakers were NOT from the baseball side. It’s impossible for me to believe that Galloway didn’t know that today’s piece would create the exact inference that it did for most people here. On the other hand, if Ryan did recently suggest to him that the culprits in the Purke smudge campaign were on the baseball ops side, he should have said so and admitted that he got it wrong in August. Either way, it’s crappy, cheap-shot journalism as far as I’m concerned.
accidental
strike through…. sorry again. when you don’t post anything for a few months, you forget how to do it properly
Put a space between the - and the text on both ends
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
But isn't it very possible that new information
came into light that Ryan wasn’t privy to last August?
Maybe this information came to light to Ryan (who is obviously RGs source) in the bidding process or Ryan didn’t tell RG until he had more leverage (won the bid).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
so
the defense here is that Ryan lied to Galloway in August (rather than simply not plant any story with him) because he didn’t have enough “leverage” to tell him the truth back then? I find that extremely difficult to believe.
I think the more likely deal is that Galloway is too chickenshit to either say what he really means right now or too full of shit to admit he got it wrong in August.
Moreover, I think it’s in bad form for someone inside the organization — whoever it was — to plant today’s story with Galloway in that it seems to threaten anyone and everyone without saying who it is. Is that a healthy way to run a business? And if that wasn’t the story-planter’s intention, then the today’s story-planter ought to take Galloway to the woodshed.
My guess is that Nolan
told Galloway what he knew to be the truth in August and that maybe something else was discovered since then.
Working without a net here and this is pure speculation…
Nolan Ryan was very embarrassed by what happened last August because he was made to appear dishonest to somebody with whom he personally spoke and perhaps made promises.
What if somebody, “the other element” who is not so keen about having the old guy around any how and feel they should be getting more credit for what’s happening, let Ryan embarrass himself when they knew MLB wouldn’t greenlight the necessary funds? Maybe they thought Ryan would become disgusted and quit.
I’m just guessing but I don’t think this column was coincidental because something happened and Ryan is still pissed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Working without a net here and this is pure speculation…
What else is new?
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 17, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Well he admitted it for a change
Of course, argue that he’s wrong and he’ll tell you that he’s right and knows it to be a fact thank to what Kevin Mench’s wife said 8 years ago at the airport.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
He's only saying that to throw us off the JW=RG theory
Assuming RG’s source is Nolan, and it probably is, if JW is RG, then he is NOT working without a net. He knows exactly what the article is about. The only way JW is going to convince me that this is about JD is if he admits that he is RG.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
He isn’t
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Dec 17, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
So are you finally admitting, albeit an unorthodox way, that it isn't JDs fault we didn't sign Purke?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Sorta off topic
But why on earth would Nolan tell the kids dad they would sign him for whatever he wanted. Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of negotiating and do the team more harm than good? That would be like going to a car dealership and telling the salesman up front you will pay sticker for a vehicle then looking and being upset when they won’t negotiate the price with you.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
LOL.
Yeah… Randy Galloway would never write some load of BS, completely dishonest column bashing the Rangers ownership without just cause.
You’re pretty sharp, Josey. Hang in there, dude.
by Texas_Dawg10 on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
From his August column on the Purke dustup
Daniels and Co. have done the job. Purke was supposed to be the latest coup. Rated a top 10, first-round talent, he slipped to the Rangers at 14 because his money demands were known to be very high, too high for other clubs. But the Rangers took him with the belief they could sign him, even at $6 million, a figure I had confirmed by an inside voice the day of the draft.
As of Tuesday, Purke was being hammered by some team apologists, and called greedy for going to TCU after reportedly turning down $4 million from the Rangers. And there are also organizational voices talking bad about him and his father, attempting to save their own butts. Not any of those voices, not that I heard, belonged to anyone on the Rangers’ baseball side. They know the truth
No, no
This deserved to be posted twice :)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Interesting
Greenberg praises Nolan and the group that JD has out together, but not JD himself…
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 17, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions
I noticed that, too
But I think you are reading too much into what someone says. If he had written that, I might consider that the subtle difference is deliberate, but people don’t think that subtly when they speak.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
If it was deliberate, he wouldn't even mention JD
If someone praised “the group I put together,” I’d consider that a personal compliment, wouldn’t you?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
He couldn't
just not mention JD. Imagine all the speculation that would cause…
It’s probably nothing though.
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 17, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
It was completely innocuous
People are only reading level after level of subtext into it because many have been worried that some new boob would come a’barnstormin and a’slapdashin in and fire JD cuz he knew a real baseball man and Junior fo sho wasn’t it.
We’ve had 6 months or so to stew on it. The paranoia is natural, but not rational.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
I swear
Some people want to spin a conspiratorial slant to a beer fart.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Dec 17, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
So do we feel good about our backup infeild situation?
Presuming the Lowell deal goes through (and that’s a large presumption at this point), and he can spell Young at 3rd, Young can pick up a little SS, with German filling in all the gaps, giving guys days off.
How do we feel about this?
My two cents: the seems will show pretty quickly. And God forbid there be another extended injury to Ian or MY…
My feeling is that Lowell will most likely be hurt a good portion of the season, and so will likely be useless. Depth is not our strong suit. I like our starting nine with the exception of catcher and DH (still better than most clubs since you can’t have an All-Star at every position). I worry about an extended injury to Andrus the most.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
This club doesn't have an all-star at any position right now
Neither MY nor Kinsler had all-star level seasons last year
hmm
Didn’t mean to imply we had an All-Star at the other seven positions. I do think it likely that Kinsler and Hamilton bounce back to All-Star level and Young puts off his decline enough to be an All-Star reserve. I’m also bullish on our 1B, but I don’t want to hijack the thread.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
thats arguable
Kinsler had a 4.6 WAR… good defense + 30/30 at 2b.. thats all star level even if it was flawed.
MY was at 3.9 and had about a .900 ops…
the preceding post was a great success.
Would it be fair to call
Kinsler’s season a flawed superstar season?
Lots of Ranger fans are somehow blaming Kinsler as much as they’re blaming Hamilton and that’s not right.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Any displeasure
i had with Kinsler was mainly due to Washington’s usage of him. He is not a leadoff hitter. He is a very good and valuable hitter but he should not be used in the leadoff spot. The preliminary reports coming out that have Borbon leading off and Kinsler anywhere from 3rd to 6th in the lineup are encouraging and I think that will cause the offense to be a little more productive as a whole.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
With Borbon leading off, we’re going to be seeing a ton of LH pitching which makes the acquisition of a monster that kills LH pitching imperative.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Im definitely
firmly in the camp of scraping the Lowell trade and signing guerrero. Career 1.000 OPS vs. lefties however in 09 and 08 he was weaker against lefties. I think he would the ideal edition to this team. Give him a contract similar to Harden’s (1 yr at 5.5-6.5 mil with incentives that could make it as valuable as 10 mil with a mutual option for a second yr at around 10-12 mil)
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
THIS!!
Big Daddy Vladdy limp come on down!!!
So who's todays mistress? They're coming out of the Woodswork!
I'm still concerned about his walk rate
Aging sluggers need walks to stay competitive. Aging sluggers who don’t walk a lot will see their numbers decline precipitously. I was really hoping for Matsui, but at this point I don’t know that Vlad will be that much better than Lowell. Although not costing Max is a point in Vlad’s favor.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I'd only be willing to give Vlad a 1 year deal.
I’m just concerned his decline is going to start to get really rapid. He’s older than he says, even after he upped his age by a year or two.
by FuturePants on Dec 17, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Is there any real reason to believe hes older than his updated age?
How old could he possibly be.. knee conditions arn’t exclusive to 40 year olds.
the preceding post was a great success.
Do you think Greg Oden is 45?
Just how old do you think Vlad is?
Besides it would be a 1 year deal, hes not going to break down (further) over the offseason.
Of course his current state of already somewhat broken down-ness is reason for concern by itself. No denying its a risk.
the preceding post was a great success.
How old is he saying he is now? 36?
And yes, I think Greg Oden is 45. And Joaquin Arias is 55.
by FuturePants on Dec 17, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
That might actually be true
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
What if Vlad won't accept a one year deal?
It seems like JD is set on getting a one year DH that hits lefties. That narrows the search down a bunch. Byrd and Dye will likely end up with multiple year contracts. Cameron got two years for instance. I was surprised that Matsui only got one year at roughly twice what the Rangers will pay for Lowell. I of course was pushing for the Rangers to sign him. At this point what option is better than Lowell?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't follow Vlad up close
so I don’t know the details but he wasn’t very good last year v. LH pitching (.686 OPS).
That’s from a hitter with a career 1000 OPS against southpaws.
V LHs In 2008 he rocked a .826 OPS and in 2007 he went .982.
Not sure how to gauge last year and how injuries played a role.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I think he started out shitty last year but had a pretty strong 2nd half....or, the opposite of Jermaine Dye.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't he still coming back from the torn pectoral?
by FuturePants on Dec 17, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure if that's what it was, I just remember him having a crappy 1st half but strong 2nd..Dye was strong in the 1st half and blew in the 2nd half...
I could look it up but I’m checking out this 20-something host named Nina on Sprout (PBS kids show)….
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
he had a calf injury and then a torn pectoral
as i’ve mentioned if you include the playoffs (and theres no logical reason not to) his ops was about 900 after the all star break.. he got it going decently enough.
the preceding post was a great success.
Well my thing with Vlad...
…is that he obviously doesn’t take pitches and just hits everything, which depends on bat speed. Once that starts to go down measurably, he will decline quickly. I’d be for a 1 year K, cautious about 2 years, no way I’d do 3.
by FuturePants on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
How does Borbon leading off lead to us seeing more LH pitching?
Our opponents either have LH starters or they don’t. And they are not going to rearrange their rotation because Borbon is our leadoff hitter.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
not specifically for borbon
but clubs last year (i think i remember) focused on getting their lefties to pitch against us at times (although I’m sure this was only a couple games throughout the season
I thought they focused on bringing in no-name rookies and one-game callups
Because those are the guys that really kill us.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
do you remember watching Kinsler
I didn’t have a problem with where he was in the lineup, but his approach at the plate. His FB% trend due to an exaggerated uppercut swing to hit HRs was downright terrible.
Kinsler had 2 good months, the rest of the time he was pretty bad. OPS of 773, 548, 759, 669 (only 4 games), 812, 1.039, 1.056(only 16 games)
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Yes i do
I remember him crushing lefties (against them hitting 3rd would be ideal) and i remember him having trouble vs. righties (against them hitting 6th would be ideal). I hope that Washington realizes the lineup should be a good deal different against lefties and righties.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
i've looked at his splits before and he is inconsistent from year to year
2009 — bad against righties
2008 — better against righties than lefties (vs RH .332 /.385 /.530)
2007 — bad against righties
2006 — better against righties than lefties
more worrisome to me is his home/away splits. He is absolutely terrible on the road. 2008 was the only year he had an OPS over .675 on the road.
road OPS
2009 — 672
2008 — 886
2007 — 675
2006 — 673
it comes to a point where a lineup could be drive based on LvR and HvR.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Hmmm,
that would be interesting. If a manager changed his lineup based on home/away splits. Any mgr ever done that?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
I also think Kinsler wasn’t 100% for alot of the season. Both mentally and physically. It was in his head about how he was supposed to approach the leadoff spot. I’m assuming he had a ton of people telling him what to do/how to do it. Putting him back at the 3/4/5 hole even is honestly going to do wonders for his stats and performance. If he’s healthy, I fully expect a 30/30 possibly 40/40 since he will be wanting to put 2009 away and make 2010 his signature start. Plus if we get a decently scary RH batter to back him up, he’ll see better pitches.
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
Yeah Heebs I can't agree with that
While Kins didn’t have an all star season I felt like Young put up a solid season. Im more about a team having a solid season than one or two guys standing out and having all star seasons. That would be nice though to have a couple allstars but that probably means the rest of the team sucks.
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Yes, Kinsler did.
Just because it wasn’t consistent doesn’t mean it wasn’t All-Star caliber. I think people take their frustration with how good Kinsler could have been with a better plate approach to ignore how really good he actually was.
Andrus, Young and Cruz were all pretty close, and the reason Cruz wasn’t was because his manager didn’t play him enough.
Conceded
I’ll concede Kinsler can be considered for an All-Star season. Just a quick glance at WAR (Fangraphs) showed me that he really only trailed Pedroia at his position in 2009. He was better than Robinson Cano and Aaron Hill by a slight margin.
MY on the other hand will not get the nod, not even close. He is behind Longoria, Figgins, A-Rod and Youkilis (if he spent enough time over there).
Cruz, not really better than that. This is a stretch. He had a good season but there are a lot of talented outfielders who have stronger cases than him (Zobrist, Gutierrez, Crawford, Ichiro, Span, Hunter, Drew, Lind)
Hm.
MY on the other hand will not get the nod, not even close. He is behind Longoria, Figgins, A-Rod and Youkilis (if he spent enough time over there).
By WAR, he was within half a win of A-Rod, which is WELL within the margin for error. A four win season will usually put you in about the top 40 position players in baseball, which is roughly All-Star level. He was pretty close. I surely wouldn’t call him definitively an All-Star caliber player in 2009, especially given the strength at his position, but I will call him close.
And remember: I hate MY.
Cruz, not really better than that. This is a stretch. He had a good season but there are a lot of talented outfielders who have stronger cases than him (Zobrist, Gutierrez, Crawford, Ichiro, Span, Hunter, Drew, Lind)
How many of them played fewer than 130 games because of an insane manager?
with murphy on the bench thats probably going to happen again
the preceding post was a great success.
Cruz played less than 130 games because he got injured
he was on pace for 140+ games if he hadn’t gotten injured
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Ruminate
By WAR, he was within half a win of A-Rod, which is WELL within the margin for error. A four win season will usually put you in about the top 40 position players in baseball, which is roughly All-Star level. He was pretty close. I surely wouldn’t call him definitively an All-Star caliber player in 2009, especially given the strength at his position, but I will call him close.
Well, your argument for Cruz can be used just as easily on A-Rod. He played 124 games last year and was certainly dealing with that hip injury in May/June. No matter how you slice it, MY was not in the top 3 at his position for 2009.
How many of them played fewer than 130 games because of an insane manager?
Well, had Cruz played more games he probably would have been right around the levels of Hunter/Span/Lind. He would still be no where near Zobrist, Gutierrez, Crawford, or Ichiro. I suppose he could arguably be in the conversation but it is still iffy.
?
I think I take issue with your definition of All-Star caliber, then. I’d tend to, as do many, that it’s the level that would tend to put someone in the top ~40 position players in baseball most years. That tends to come at around 4+ WAR. MY was close last year.
I’m not limiting it to 3rd base, and a lot of Cruz’s time lost was not due to injury.
Essentially, I'm not using the rules of the actuall game because it's silly.
I’m using it to create a tier of players regardless of how talent is distributed unequally by position.
Also, 4 is a whole number, so it's a nice cut-off.
If you want to raise it to say 4 1/2 I won’t necessarily disagree.
why do you think he'll be hurt?
he has been pretty durable throughout his career and will be asked to DH more than usual this year. I don’t think the team will okay the trade if they think his thumb or hip injuries will be ongoing issues. A veteran on the DL isn’t worth $3M.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
He's old (34)
Old people break down. Reports of his physical haven’t warmed me to him. Not that there is anything better available. I give a great big meh to our options.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
For a one year deal, 34 isn’t bad. It’s the medical reports that have me worried. He’s probably still the best option right now, but that’s not putting the bar very high.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Well I had read the comments wrong,
but I will still stick to my guns. Age isn’t a factor unless your body can’t handle the strain and stress of being an everyday ball player. There are and have been so many players that seem to not age. Some players get to 34 and break down. Some don’t.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
But every player
is less physically capable, even if only slightly, at 34 than he was at 27 or so, it’s a fact of life. If you’re coming down from a very high peak you’ll still be valuable, but time waits for no man.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
k, greenberg can be a nice dood and everything
yay for that. yay that he responds to facebook messages, whatever…
He better have some f’n money to spend on FAs. For some reason, i don’ think this ownership GROUP will go much above the status quo.
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Hopefully he does
because isnt next yr supposed to be a monster FA yr?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
it is good, not great
unless you have a bazillion dollars to spend on a catcher, then it becomes quite appealing.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Didn't he hurt his shoulder? Did he have surgery on it?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
No way man.
Check this list out: Cot’s
Granted a lot have options and what not, but still. It puts this class to shame.
(=option)
Hitters: Berkman, Derek Lee, Konerko, Pujols*, Freddy Sanchez, JJ Hardy, Jeter, Jose Reyes*, Jimmy Rollins*, Jack Wilson, Scott Rolen, V-Mart, Mauer, Crawford, Dunn, Jayson Werth, Kubel, DeJesus*
Pitchers: Becket, Lee, Webb, Cain*, Jorge de la RosaHudson, Blanton, Arroyo
It’s pretty crazy man.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 17, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
yum
although, I think we might have some money to cough up in arbitration… still, we should have enough money with around 80 ml payroll to pick up one big bat, and if Harden is gone too, one good pitcher.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
And if you can find some way to get that bazillion dollars, you had better offer it to said catcher
If he hits the open market, there are going to be teams with good starting catchers offering huge sums of money for Mauer.
I’m interested to see what kind of open-market contract he could get. 5/100?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
OT. Per ESPN
Chris Henry now dead.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
wha?
wow
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
he had reportedly turned much of his life around
but this is a very weird final story. He got in a fight with his fiance, then fell out of the truck bed of a moving pickup.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
His story parallels Sean Taylor's quite a bit
Although, Taylor’s troubles weren’t as documented as Henry’s.
OT: Fox news has headline that Chris Henry has died from his injuries!!
Dang thats sad news man.
here
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Starting
to be a lot more smoke around JD and Nolan power issues.
Clearly nothing will change this season, but this sure seems to be Nolan’s baby now and we’ll soon see what he thinks of JD and how he wants this team run. This was my fear when the announcement was made.
New boss same as the old boss.
As long as JD
has a good year and the team improves, he should be okay but his biggest weakness has always been making moves that help the major league team win.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
He's also not had much money to spend the past few years
I’d like to see what happens with a larger budget, but we wont really know until next off season or possibly the trade deadline
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
will we even know then?
how do we know JD is going to have money to spend with new ownership? Greenberg can say the right things, but will his actions support his words? That’s a question that will remain to be seen.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Don't feed
the troll
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 17, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
We can only go by whats being said right now
but yes, o fcourse we don’t know for sure that the new owners will spend money.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
so....
every good player on the team outside of young, kinsler and feldman was brought in by jd and those guys are the reason everyone is saying we have such a good foundation and are poised to be really good for the next few years, but all that gets thrown out the window?
Don't do it
Don’t get sucked into the trap…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 17, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
sorry
i cant help it
on the bright side, good logic usually shuts him down for a while, at least on that particular topic
He tends to duck arguments
Right when everyone can see he’s in checkmate
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Nolan as the GM
That could be interesting. He can tell the other GM’s, “Accept my trade proposal, or I’ll punch you in face!”
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 17, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
'You wanna counter-offer?'
‘Awright, my counter-offer is fastball, up and in. You still wanna consider my first offer?’
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Given the tweet yesterday by Maury Brown
and the column today by RG, yeah, there’s some serious smoke surrounding JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
JD has jobs waiting for him anywhere in the game. Maybe not GM-type positions, but he has respect.
Stop being a baby for once.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 17, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
You betcha, JD has jobs waiting for him.
There’s a lot of coffee that needs to be fetched in every front office in the major leagues.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Hank's balls
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
by RCCook on Dec 17, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was skeptical of the tweet
but now with a second source (possibly from Nolan himself) my skepticism is dwindling.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
JD's got everybody suckered.
He’s gonna swoop in with a takeover move. Karate chop CG in the neck. Act like he’s tying his shoe but really grab a handful of dirt and throw it in Nolan’s face. Rip his belt buckle off his wranglers and beat him senseless. He’ll look up menacingly at Sundberg who heard the commotion and rushed in to see what the fuss was. Sunny will see CG holding his neck and Nolan inhaling his own belt buckle and fall in line behind JD, the strong horse. Maybe run and get him a coke real fast or something. And then JD’ll call Thad in to touch everything so he can pin the crime on him. And JD will be in control. He’ll call the Mets and offer every Ranger up for pennies on the dollar in trade in return for the Mets 2011 GM position. And some chicks. And some beer. And a Gorgar pinball machine. Yep – JD’s got everybody suckered.
by shroomer on Dec 17, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I hope you're right.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Who is this superhero?
Sarge? No!
Joaquin the human Rorschach Test? No way man!
Jon the mild-mannered general manager? Could be!
Kung-Fu JD, number one super guy
Kung-Fu JD, quicker than the human eye!
Kinda wish I could
I dont have DTV but my rents do. Just not sure if I want to watch it.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
I don't have NFLN
I hate when it’s the Cowboys time to play on it each year (I know that game isn’t til Saturday but still)
They're on Channel 21 if you don't have NFL Network.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
yeah
JD will probably be the Mets GM next year.
Boooo!
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
honest and up front
is there any indication that jd has been deceitful? or that it was he that leaked the untrue purke stories? im wondering if he’s referring to someone else getting removed.
you know
even if it isn’t JD, it has to be someone we’ve all grown to love.
either that or it’s John Hart – which might make the only sense. Otherwise, why would you bad mouth the Purkes?
Hart
I was wondering that myself, but how much involvement does he still have I wonder.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
that would make sense
especially with the “close to Hicks” suggestions. I can’t really see JD and Hicks being “close”
Go Rice Owls!
I think Hart too
And I can’t wait for this franchise to cut that POS loose.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I made no assumptions as to who he was talking about
in the article. It seemed to me, though, that he was referring to others lower on the totem pole.
Actually I wondered if he was referring to the pitching stuff. I seem to remember hearing before that some weren’t on board with the changes Ryan wanted (which don’t seem to have been big changes anyway).
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
So Nolan was pissed...
because he’s the idiot who made promises he couldn’t keep, and should have never made to begin with? Are we supposed to believe this is JD’s fault?
Plus Juan, there
He could either be pissed at himself, Uncle Bud, or Tommy Hicks.
And, really, given Uncle Bud wanting to keep draft pick bonuses reasonable and keep the slotting system somewhat together, did he think MLB would really sign off on a check for six million for Purke?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Draft day - June 2009
War room …
Nolan: Tom, we got this kid, great arm, but he’ll want 5 or 6 miilion to sign. We got that leeway here?
Hicks: Is he worth that much money?
Nolan: We think so.
Hicks: You bet, draft him. We’ll find the money to sign him.
Nolan: Then that’s what I’ll tell his daddy.
well
the ownership situation is what it was and i think nolan knew it at that point. seems as though he got the ok from the MLB to sign purke at 6M and the MLB reneged. don’t see how it possibly implicates JD
I think he may be talking about other people blaming JD
Not necessarily this article
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
x
Ryan was livid the next day, although he refused to discuss the circumstances. Other sources, however, confirmed that Major League Baseball had refused to provide the money needed, plus, it was learned MLB had been bankrolling the team due to the Hicks’ financial flop.
So Tom didn’t bother telling anybody that he needed help from MLB just to make payroll. Therefore, I conclude that Nolan did not know how dire the situation was.
The more I read it
RG is definitely talking about MLB. He says, “If there are any concerns about this new ownership deal working out, one might be just that. I’m about half-serious in saying Ryan is probably too honest to be an owner of a major sports franchise.”
He’s clearly trying to say that MLB screwed both Ryan (through his word) and JD (for being convinced he could sign the player and thus wasting a pick) and that Ryan will be honest with MLB about how pissed he is/was, which might jeopardize approval.
I think RG’s clearly being over dramatic with the shot about approval to get his point across that Nolan won’t take no guff from the commissioners office.
Has anyone seen a second (or third)
source confirming RG’s claims about the Purke issue? Basically it is RG’s word vs the FO. Hicks claims they offered 4 million (if I remember) while Galloway claims they offered around 2ish. I’m inclined to believe the 4 million figure. I also remember a story that said the club countered at the last minute for between 5-6. Given the 3 million+ the club spent on their J2 signs before the signing deadline, I’m am still very skeptical about RG’s claims and the control that MLB supposedly exercised on a budget that was set at the beginning of the year for both J2 and draft signs. Maybe someone can ask Purke what the last offer was- KinslerHomer must have him facebooked….
by Goyogringo on Dec 17, 2009 10:24 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
When I read the RG article, I couldn't help but think of JW
as it was just the same old shit recycled.
by swampdonkey on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I don't have much respect for Galloway
but I don’t really see much reason to doubt him on this issue.
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Good use of the caption picture, Adam.
That is by far one of your best bits on this site.
The ability to use pictures like that makes your writing more melodramatic. It’s very entertaining.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions
I think it's funny
that Hicks appears to be wearing a $5 “WalMart special” Rangers cap.
It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard.
- Nolan Ryan
I like how he
looks like a little kid sniffing his fingers after sticking them in his ass
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 17, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
My first thought as well
“I got Stinky Finger last night!”
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Shouldn't the site tagline be changed?
Fans currently held hostage by the MLB change-in-ownership approval process.
This
For his friendly forces in the organization, Ryan has not moved fast enough, or harshly enough, in removing the other element. But his loyalty to Hicks remained a constant, and Hicks had certain people he wanted to stay in place. Some of those people can now be nervous.
This OTHER element has to be Warsh, doesn’t it? My gut is telling me that Wash’s gut may be filing for unemployment.
not sure
the next line says something about being honest and up front. is there any indication that wash (or jd for that matter) hasnt been honest and up front?
We have no idea how "honest and up front" JD is
If he was as blunt and straightforward as NR, he wouldn’t be good at his job.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Washington
If I remember correct it was reported that Nolan was really close to canning him early in the season before things turned around.
I think the likelihood is that there are people in the front office who have been leaking stories, etc. It seems someone was let go not long ago that allegedly was doing that
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
That old scout, for one
He got axed to leave.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
That does make more sense
Nolan brought in Jackie Moore to be bench coach, whereas he has let JD rearrange and put his people throughout the organization.
I think RG is trying to rile things up without coming out and saying what he really thinks. It’s the kind of statement that can’t be proven and can’t be traced back to anyone. I also wonder whether RG is recycling old news (the Purke leak may already be gone from the organization).
Warsh was a JD/Hicks hire.
The rest of the coaching staff has been filled in with Ryan-people. Surely Ryan has had his sights set on canning Warsh since day 1, right?
by ncrangerfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
I think Ryan could have canned wash the last 2 May's
but they all decided as a group not to. I could have swore Nolan was the one that was outspoken about not overreacting.
Well
I think most agree that Warsh was days away from being canned each of the last two years before the team suddenly turned it around. Maybe there wasn’t a “Ryan-guy” available to bring on, or at least not the one Nolan has had his eyes on. Maybe Ryan realized that 08/09 were rebuilding years and a change of manager wouldn’t impact anything. Warsh is cheap and the players liked him ok, so why not ride it out until it’s time to take the next step?
Rebuilding time is over. It’s time for the next step, and I’m guessing Ryan doesn’t think Warsh is the guy to lead the team moving forward.
Loads of speculation in there…
by ncrangerfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
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“I think Ron’s fine,” Ryan said. “I don’t see anything that concerns me. I think that he’s done a good job.”
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
personally i think its pretty automatic that..
if we win 85+ hes still here, if we lose 80+ hes gone, and in between is either way.
the preceding post was a great success.
JD is referenced
at the beginning of the column (something about honesty) and then RG discusses how Ryan moved slowly when he first came to the organization and was loathe to remove personal favorites of Hicks.
Was JD not upfront with Nolan about something having to do with the money coming they had for Purke? That doesn’t make sense but maybe it was something else.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that JD was a personal fave of Tom Hicks and Ryan didn’t run him out of here for a variety of reasons (financial & loyalty to wishes of Hicks) but I don’t know who else could be “the other element” other than JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
JD Tunnel Vision
Hanks balls, teabaggin turkey!!!
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I kept hunting for
Ryan/JD turmoil in this article, but I didn’t find it. The Purke situation seemed like Hicks/Selig let Ryan down…I don’t see how JD was anything more than the mouthpiece for the final offer.
by ncrangerfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
If Nolan wants JD out...
Then why would Nolan let JD rearrange the front office and put all of his people in important positions? Can you even identify of Nolan’s “friendly forces” in the front office?
Galloway
Not exactly objective when it comes to JD.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
When Galloway discusses Nolan Ryan
he seems to have a deadly accurate source.
RG is not talking about John Hart, Ron Washington or Jim Sundberg in this article…he’s discussing JD.
When you add up about the Maury Brown tweet, the Great Greenberg’s thoughts yesterday and RG’s column today, JD better make sure the Rangers have a damn good 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Answer my question
If that is true, then why did Nolan let JD completely rearrange baseball operations and put JD’s people in every important position?
If Nolan fires JD, then the entire baseball operations team collapses. Based on Greenberg’s comments, that’s not going to happen.
I didn't find one example
of Ryan/JD turmoil in the article. The article talked about Hick’s/MLB changing their mind on paying Purke and making Ryan look silly.
Help me out here—what am I missing?
by ncrangerfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Very cryptic
but you could read this section anyone you want:
For a full year, he did almost nothing but observe. Some with the club mistook that for weakness. Then last season Ryan suddenly pounced, bringing in his own people — pitching coach Mike Maddux, bench coach Jackie Moore, more names in the minor leagues system, and many others in the front office.
For his friendly forces in the organization, Ryan has not moved fast enough, or harshly enough, in removing the other element. But his loyalty to Hicks remained a constant, and Hicks had certain people he wanted to stay in place. Some of those people can now be nervous.
Something about being honest and up-front.
Curious, then
That the one major staff hire this past off-season (Hurdle) came from Colorado and had ties to JD, not Nolan.
And as cstorm15 said above, the front-office reorganization this off-season seemed to consolidate JD’s “power base” within the organization, not dismantle it.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
I'm not
going to suggest that “the element” is JD from this article. My first reaction was that RG was referring to JD, but after reading it again I realize I was probably just projecting past RG opinions on JD onto this article.
It could be Hart. I can’t imagine it’s Wash. He wouldn’t have had anything to do with the Purke situation and it would make no sense for him to be the leak about Purke’s parents. It could still be JD, but I’m now seriously doubting that. Still, it’s so vague you can read it as just about anyone in the organization.
Very true
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Yeah,
When Warsh sits back and sees that his entire coaching staff are new, Ryan hires, he’s got to be nervous when reading that it’s time to get rid of “the other element”, specifically, the element that “Hicks wanted kept in place.”
by ncrangerfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
gotta be hart
just for the reason that it seems like whomever is “the element” is being portrayed as dishonest and maybe backstabbing.
unless there’s front office people im not thinking of, hart is the only one that seems to fit that description. JD doesnt (i dont think), wash doesnt, thad doesnt.
It's a GIANT leap
to say that anything in this passage clearly states Ryan and JD are at odds.
by ncrangerfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Who said anything
about clearly stating they are at odds? I said it was very cryptic and that the reader could read it anyway they want. If they want to read JD it as JD (Josey) they will.
It is Hart...
There is no way to get around it. If it was Daniels, Nolan would have blocked JD’s personnel moves. If it was Wash then I am fairly sure RG would have the balls to say it. Same with Daniels. Hart still has more pull over Galloway due to his nature of occasionally throwing RG a bone on information and his contacts with Buck and the MLB network.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I find it hard to believe
that Hart would give RG the time of day given the way RG treated him while he was GM.
Galloway
If he’s discussing JD, then why not come out and say so?
If he has a problem with the GM, or someone within the team does, then they need to quit being such a pussy about it, stop the passive-aggressive nonsense, and say it publicly.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
by RCCook on Dec 17, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He left it vague
for a reason. I can’t stand RG, but he gives plausible deniability to whoever is feeding him info.
Well
If his source is Nolan, and he is talking about JD, then all claims that Nolan’s a straight-shooting honest guy go right in the toilet.
Straight shooters don’t feel the need to hide behind the Randy Galloways of the world.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
I don't feel like
Anyone is hiding behind this article. I think RG was letting the readers know that “the element” is already on notice. I’m sure the politics inside the FO are well known by those in the FO. “The element” knows who he is and most likely how Nolan feels. The public do not however.
Let's just admit it
Grandpa Urine is full of bullshit more often than not. He, like newspapers in columnists general, need to crawl in a hole somewhere and die.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
John Hart is nothing but a consultant
for the team and probably contributes very little in the way of actual substance and certainly not enough for RG to write an article like this.
This article was about Little Boy Donuts all the way. As mentioned, he’s probably safe as long as the team shows improvement this year and the dumbassery comes in limited doses.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
You forget the fact that the only reason why Hart was not let wonder off into the sunset alone was Hicks.
Hart could have been dropped completely when Nolan was brought in but Hicks kept him around to have another set of eyes on Nolan to make sure he didn’t get in over his head. Not a bad gig for Hart really. Hicks’ latent concerns over Nolan’s ability to not get in over his head has paid off pretty well.
I am pretty sure that Nolan would be getting tired of having Hick’s lackey around looking over his shoulder. Now it looks like Nolan gets that chance.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Very delusional, laxtonto.
RG references JD from the very beginning…
“Jon Daniels, the Rangers general manager, will remember a question he asked me in spring training of 2008, a month after Hicks had hired Ryan as team president.
“What’s Nolan like?” Daniels asked.
“Very honest and up-front at all times,” was the reply. “And he expects the same.”
and 75% thru the article RG writes…
“For a full year, he did almost nothing but observe. Some with the club mistook that for weakness. Then last season Ryan suddenly pounced, bringing in his own people — pitching coach Mike Maddux, bench coach Jackie Moore, more names in the minor leagues system, and many others in the front office.
For his friendly forces in the organization, Ryan has not moved fast enough, or harshly enough, in removing the other element. But his loyalty to Hicks remained a constant, and Hicks had certain people he wanted to stay in place. Some of those people can now be nervous.
Something about being honest and up-front."
And then closes it this way…
“In-house, however, it’s also now a case of either be on board with Ryan or be gone.
That’s just being honest. If you work for Nolan, you’d better be."
John Hart hasn’t been the GM here in the last 4.5 years and is a consultant with nobody working under him. He’s small potatoes and unworthy of having a column written about him.
Somewhere along the road JD must not have been very forthcoming with Nolan Ryan and it appears the Corporate Survivalist may have stepped in a big pile of dog-shit.
The Lewinskys are gonna put their head in the sand and say it’s not true but this column was about JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
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I don’t believe for a second that this article is about JD, unless you really are Randy Galloway, in which case I guess we have to take your word for it.
But let’s play your game and pretend that it is. So what? Do you think JD is going to get fired as a result? I know you and RG don’t like him, but did you see the response to the recent moves by the rest of the Dallas media? 2010/2011 is supposed to be when the JD plan comes to fruition. There’s too much goodwill/willingingness to see where this goes for JD to get fired by a new guy. CG is too smart to do something like that right off the bat.
CG is going to defer to Nolan
Ryan on all things baseball including the future of JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Maybe it's just me
But the guy whose name is synonymous with Hank’s balls really shouldn’t be calling other people Lewinskys.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
by RCCook on Dec 17, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
what evidence
do you have, other than where he went to school, that jd has been deceitful or has kept information from nolan?
I have no evidence about JD
being deceitful with Nolan Ryan but when you read RG’s column something’s up.
It’s easy to write cryptically but not so easy to speak cryptically so I’d tune into RG’s show today for a little more clarity on the topic.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
People tune into Galloway for a variety of things, but clarity is not on the list
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
So you have nothing that you can prove you theory or disprove mine
imagine that.
Once again you can’t prove anything and so you try to make assumption off one segment in an article and apply it to another.
Seems very familiar. I am pretty sure that has happened befoer with Galloway very recently on here.
Once again, you are reading into it what you want and that is exactly why Galloway writes the pieces the way he does.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
You are discarding all rationale thought on the matter
because your boy Jon Daniels appears to have his tits caught in a wringer and he may not be long for Arlington.
RG doesn’t give a shit about John Hart. That man has very little influence or presence within the Ranger FO. He’s consultant with no power and unworthy of a column of this nature.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Right... so no proof huh
imagine that.
Does not really surprise me that you have absolutely no way to corroborate your theory. As far as Hart having no power, you might want to consider why he is still here then. He has Hicks ear and is Hicks eyes on Nolan. Read into it what you want. It is all baseless conjecture.
At least we get to hear this tired speech instead of you making a fool of yourself by making a farce of anything Bill James.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
So now you think John Hart was the liason
between Tom Hicks & Nolan the last two years?
LOL!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
not the liason, as Hick's eyes and ears to guarantee he isn't screwing up.
Hicks is there to monitor Nolan. Prove me wrong.
If Nolan started to get overwhelmed then Hicks could step in and make some changes. Fortunately he hasn’t.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
But wasn't Hart with the organization
before Nolan came a board?
Why would Hicks hire Nolan if he had Hart?
Doesn’t make too much sense.
Tell yourself differently because you’re afraid of the cold hard truth but Jon Daniels would appear to be in trouble and I cite the RG column today as evidence.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Hicks was here regardless, but is not suited for the team president role
If Nolan faltered, Hicks still had Hart to bail him out until he could find another potential team president.
You still have nothing that disproves that Hart had been kept around to monitor Nolan as a fail safe in case he couldn’t handle the position.
My theory is as logical as yours and has history on my side. Hicks has been the known proponent of Hart. If Nolan had the control you keep parroting he would have had the power to get rid of Hart when he first came on.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
But RG says in his column
that “some of these people now have reasons to be nervous.”
Not person, people.
Some people (JD & Hart?) misled Nolan and they’re going to pay for it with their jobs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
what about Hart and Judy Southworth?
Or any of the other people placed in positions in the organization that Nolan didn’t bring in.
Once again, you got nothing.
And FYI Judy Southworth is the Asst to the President that was former executive assistant of baseball operations well before Nolan ans was placed in her role under Nolan as a safeguard for Nolan. If it was Nolan’s choice that position would be filled from outside the organization.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
don't stop please.
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by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
This is awesome
Out-Joseying Josey!
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 17, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't help it... I am going out of the country for about 10 days
and figured I better do it now before I leave.
Some times he needs to feel how frustrating it is to deal with is type of pathetic circular arguments. There is more logic in mine that most of Josey’s stock answers, but this should at least give him a feel for how annoying it is.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Actually
it demonstrates how perverted your admiration for JD has become….you’ve dismissed all rationale and logic.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
No.. You just need to realize that you are a regard as a fool here
and anyone can produce a circular argument that can “prove” any point they want to.
Daniels has done a fine job, but the world won’t crumble when he leaves. The same if and when Nolan leaves. Until you can accept that your built in misconceptions are going to still get you mocked and leave you the ass of all jokes here.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
RG doesn't give a shit about Hart?
The same guy he used to call the Empty Golf Shirt. Yeah RG is probably best buds with the guy
:rolleyes:
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
RG strongly dislikes
John Hart but so what?
He strongly dislikes Barry Switzer as well but he doesn’t write columns about him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Barry Switzer isn't a "consultant" for the Cowboys either
The only reason Hart still has a “job” is because Hicks loves the guy so much. Why I have no earthly idea.
Nolan seems to be onboard with the direction JD has taken this franchise which is the complete opposite from what Hart did. Hart, granted he was working under the orders of Hicks although I think it could be argued he talked Hicks into trying to “win now”, never paid the kind of attention to the farm system as a whole that JD and his staff have.
Nolan seems to understand thats how you build a perennial winner.
So yeah its pretty easy to see this article is most likely about Hart who has different ideals and philosophies about how to run a baseball club than JD and Nolan. Now that Nolan is the owner and Hicks isn’t Harts relationship with Hicks doesn’t guarantee him job security.
I can almost guarantee you you read that article with your JD biased glasses on and thats all you could envision it being about. And because of that you are on here arguing for that stance even though nothing remotely points to it being correct.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
RG cannot stand JD
but keep deluding yourself, big steve.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
That doesn't mean this article is about JD though
Nothing in there points to that being the case. Only someone like you who hates JD with the passion you do would even try and say it does. You can’t provide any solid evidence supporting your position. All you have is hope and a prayer.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Wash
He could be talking about Ron Washington. RG specifically mentions the coaches – Maddux and Moore. It seems like the other element to be removed would be Washington.
I don’t think you’re making some huge leap by suggesting that RG is referring to JD though. It’s very possible, but it’s everyone on this board’s first instict to disagree with you (me included) because you’re such an irrational jackass the vast majority of the time.
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 17, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Answer my question
If that is true, then why did Nolan let JD completely rearrange baseball operations and put JD’s people in every important position?
If Nolan fires JD, then the entire baseball operations team collapses. Based on Greenberg’s comments, that’s not going to happen.
I'm starting to think
the JW=RG thing has some merit. Granted, it’s hard to tell trolls apart from each other, but Josey seems to think he has some inside info on Galloway.
On one hand, it’s pretty pathetic. On the other hand, I can make fun of Galloway to his face!
Just for fun:
Go to http://www.google.com
Type in “Why is there,” but don’t hit enter. The first suggestion is funny.
Wish I had a nickel
for every time I’ve needed to google that.
It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard.
- Nolan Ryan
My shirt was full of bees!
Hmm… I’d’ve thought C’s…
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
I'm so glad that show is finally going to be over.
I actually thought it was over til recently seeing a commercial for the upcoming final season… ugh.
If you aren't already doing so yall should check out Parks over at BTiA
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by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 17, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions
For all of those that are clamoring for Vlad as a DH instead of the Lowell deal
Here is a pretty good reason why it looks like the Rangers have to go after Lowell
Atkins gets a one-year, $4.5MM deal according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post. He’ll earn $4MM in 2010 and has an $8.5MM club option for ‘11 with a $500K buyout. He can also earn another $500K in plate appearance incentives in 2010. My expectations for Atkins are pretty low, but there’s little harm in the Orioles giving him a shot. – Tim Dierkes
Atknins, one of the lower tier OF DH/1B/3B options is getting 4.5M. Vlad is going to ask for at least that and more than likely ask for 2 years. N. Johnson is already asking for much more than that and at least 2 years. DH bats are going to cost more than the team can probably spend right now.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Matsui must have the worst agent in baseball right now.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 17, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
well there is the strong possibility he could have
but wanted to be on a legit playoff contender.
the preceding post was a great success.
I understand this
but I doubt the Angels gave him a take-it-now-or-leave-it $6M offer… I think he could have been more patient.
Maybe the dude is rational and decided that $6M is enough money to enjoy a life in SoCal and wanted to get it over with.
but he just got married
he needs the money, fast
450 million
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
They had a prenup
So that figure is probably pretty well defined. I remember reading it was under 20 million.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, not anymore
Infidelity plus the fact that she has already retained a bigtime divorce lawyer to the stars type.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I don't think infidelity cancels out a prenup unless it's specifically spelled out that way
What fool would be smart enough to get a prenup and yet dumb enough to agree it’s void if I mess up?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Nordegren and Woods share a home in California, which has a “no-fault” divorce law that may allow her to circumvent a prenuptial agreement. That might allow her to take half of the roughly $500 million (U.S.) Woods has earned since the pair were married in 2004.
Complicating matters is the fact that California law requires that either Nordegren or her husband must have lived in that state for the six months prior to filing. Apparently, she can’t meet that requirement. That would push Nordegren back into Florida’s stingier divorce courts.
At issue is Woods’s nearly $1 billion fortune. Prior to her 2004 wedding, Nordegren reportedly signed a prenuptial agreement limiting her to $20 million after 10 years of marriage. Immediately following the revelations of Woods’s extramarital affairs, it was reported that the golfer had offered to boost the payout by as much as $75 million. However, that was based on the assumption that Nordegren would stay with her husband for at least two more years.
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 17, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Such a sham marriage
Don’t really care who he F’s — just break Jack’s record
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 17, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
So California is out of play
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds that way
but she’s still trying…
by Anonymous New Guy on Dec 18, 2009 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
iPhone money?
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
Supposedly some
high priced divorce lawyer commented on this a couple wks ago. He said around 300 million but most likely 250 million
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
AJM
high priced divorce lawyer
Is that why AJM has been absent from this thread this morning? He has a new client…
Haha
Hey im just trying to reach out to Elin. Im faithful and i dont much money so she would know that i need her ha
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 17, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, right
I really haven’t paid much attention except for a few jokes about whether or not he needs a caddy.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Nerd
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
One guy getting a higher than expected contract isn't a trend
So far everything has been in line with expectations. If johnson, thome and dye beat expectations too that will be a different matter. But there arn’t that many open DH roles… someone is signing at a reasonable price or sitting on the bench somewhere else.
the preceding post was a great success.
this is pretty accurate
I would expect Thome gets a 1 yr deal around 5M. I’m not sure if Vlad can negotiate a 2 year deal. I would presume Nick Johnson would have even more difficulty with his injury history. He’s not going to get what he’s asking for, although I don’t know that number.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
That's just leverage against Damon though, right?
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"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Atkins, Lyon, Cameran, Holliday (from the looks of it), Kendall, Pudge
have all made more than I would have personally guessed going into this off-season
well, can't really deny that
Though I don’t think Cameron’s deal was, he made 10 mil last year and had a typical year.
And kendall/pudge do have a bit of a nationals/KC exception.
Plus, DH for obvious reasons is the most limited position in the league. Some of these guys can play the field (like atkins), but matsui/thome/vlad/cust in particular really don’t have a lot of leverage.
Although I’ve also been commenting to AJM that I thought his 1 year 5 million prediction for vlad was going to get beat, heh. Given the rangers situation the difference between 5, 6 and 7 mil can be huge too.
Ugh kind of rambling now. Well, we’ll see. They’ve got to sign sometime.
the preceding post was a great success.
Yeah, we've already done more than I expected (sad expectations, I know)
Hopefully we find a bargain somewhere. I’d like to stick with the high-risk/high-reward signings, personally, as I think we have an adequate number of replacement players as is. That’s why I’d be a fan of Nick Johnson or Vlady, as opposed to Thome or Lowell
glaus
consistently puts up obp 100pts higher than his average and can play 1st and 3rd. should come cheap considering his injuries. still fairly young too
Forget Glaus
he believes he is a starter. He has no interest in coming off the bench. Think Allen Iverson.
"we’re a bunch of knee-jerking yahoos who like new and shiny things." -- FirebatM3 July 10, 2009
i think thats just posturing
what team is going to just give him a 3rd base job outright? i think he’d still get 400-500 pa’s as a DH/1B
Newberg Book Night
Who from LSB is going?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
wish I could
But my company Christmas party is tonight…
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
got to go to the wife's Christmas party and then hop a flight...
It seems like any time there is a newberg function I have something major keeping me from attending
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I was intending to
but ive been battling winter allergies pretty badly today
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
The Chipmunks are Back!!!
YAY!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
It's pretty funny.
“Did I say labia?” is funny as hell when spoken by a chipmunk when interspersed with occasional “queefs.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I hate it
I did laugh at the little Johnny joke Gordo told this morning
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
That reminder just made me giggle again
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Wow. Galloway still peddling this lie about MLB having vetoed Purke's offer.
Unreal.
What an incredible liar Randy Galloway is. Completely shameless.
just read the galloway piece
i’m not convinced the “other element” is referring to JD. I remember reading last year about a resistance within the organization regarding Nolan’s plans to push the pitchers harder. I’d have to search for those articles, but I believe they hinted at minor league coaches/development staff types, not front office people. That’s your “other element”.
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